Factotum / Archivist

[Torvon]

Hey there.

I'm currently level 9, pure Factotum. We just reached level 10!
Fluffwise it would be a perfect point to go for Archivist, the class fits perfectly to the way I play my Factotum.

My DM is pretty strict, so I will probably have to acquire all my spells etc and not totally be able to cheese the hell out of the class.

My question: since I'm playing a ranged Factotum, WIS is my dumpstat (8). I thought Archivist is purely INT based, but the number of spells per day is still WIS based. That means I can cast ... 2 level 1 spells per day. Totally not worth it, right? And the saves for the spells will also totally suck. DC 12 or something :)

Any suggestions?
Thanks
T

[gkathellar]

Yeah, any archivist levels you grabbed at this point would be pretty worthless.

Let me be the first to suggest going Chameleon instead, since it fits the Factotum perfectly.

[Wings of Peace]

Yeah... I'm going to echo the "Don't do it" sentiment. Chameleon is a solid option or just go more Factotum. Going Archivist at this point though would just be wasting levels compared to your other options.

[TroubleBrewing]

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[Torvon]

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arcane caster lvl 5 ... takes ages to get there as factotum.

[Kaje]

Caster level equal to factotum level.

[Psyren]

And the saves for the spells will also totally suck. DC 12 or something :)


Archivist save DCs are calculated based on Int - I don't see how this number is possible, unless you're a Factotum/Archivist with 12 Int, in which case I humbly suggest a career change pronto.

[Myth]

As a gestalt this combination would be considered Tier 1++. As a MC combination it is IMO closer to Tier 4-5 :smallconfused:

Go pure Factotum instead. Take Font of Insipration as many times as you can. Be sure to use Iaijutsu Focus and Autohypnosis and a Gnomish Quickrazor etc. Just google the Factotum handbook really.

[Torvon]

Archivist save DCs are calculated based on Int - I don't see how this number is possible, unless you're a Factotum/Archivist with 12 Int, in which case I humbly suggest a career change pronto.
INT is 20. I thought the saves are also calculated by WIS, as the number of spells.

It doesn't matter, it would be a bad idea for me to go for Archivist. Maybe just a 1 level dip to give the whole party +3 on attacks, that's a pretty significant buff, and I hardly roll knowledge devotion checks below 40.

[Torvon]

As a gestalt this combination would be considered Tier 1++. As a MC combination it is IMO closer to Tier 4-5 :smallconfused:

Go pure Factotum instead. Take Font of Insipration as many times as you can. Be sure to use Iaijutsu Focus and Autohypnosis and a Gnomish Quickrazor etc. Just google the Factotum handbook really.

I. Focus, Quickrazer and font are banned. I'm going archer route, have been playing the char for 4 levels and build it based on the handbook.
Just came back from half a year traveling without D&D and am thinking about the future progression. I don't like Chameleon that much, I'll stick with Factotum to 12 and then just see what happens.
I get lvl 4 spells at lvl10 now, greater invisibility ... wow.

Also, there's a spell for which you only have to hit a ranged touch attack (I have Dex18), and there is no save, and the enemy loses d4 levels. How OP is that ^^ ...

[Chronos]

Enervation. Yeah, it's a good spell, but it does allow spell resistance, and there are a lot of ways to be immune to it, and as a Factotum you can't spam it the way a real spellcaster could.

Also, it's "gains 1d4 negative levels", which is not quite the same thing as "loses 1d4 levels".

[Gavinfoxx]

You already qualify for mindbender, likely. Get it and Mindsight!

Also, there's a feat in a dragonlance book that makes an Archivist 100% int-based.

[Torvon]

You already qualify for mindbender, likely. Get it and Mindsight!

Also, there's a feat in a dragonlance book that makes an Archivist 100% int-based.

Academic Priest. But it's a 1st level only feat.

[Elboxo]

Ask your DM if they'd allow for Archivist to be Int dependant for spells/day and saves. Be prepared for a "No" since it is a bit convenient.

You could always play a wizard with knowledge devotion.