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Mandar
2012-02-04, 08:22 PM
Does anyone know any good races for an evil cleric to be? Preferably humanoid, an no LA.

Thanks,

Manny~

Adindra
2012-02-04, 08:25 PM
while you have to know what your going for in the type of cleric (im assuming run of the mill evil casty eventual beat in the face cleric) i always start here

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19546874/Master_Player_Race_List_Version_2.0


if you give more information we can help with a possible choice :smallsmile:

Bakkan
2012-02-05, 12:48 AM
Necropolitan has all your nice undead immunities and qualities. No LA, technically, but you have to pay 3000 xp to be made into one.

I always consider Azurin (Magic of Incarnum) as a possible human replacement. Still get your bonus feat, but also get a bonus essentia. IIRC, there are some Azurin Cleric racial substitution levels. Also, the Necrocarnum soulmelds can be quite deadly.

Lesser Aasimar is cool, you get +2 to your two important mental stats and you can get a whole "fallen angel" type of thing going on.

nyarlathotep
2012-02-05, 01:27 AM
Dwarves are fine clerics as they gain a bonus to an important stat and a penalty to a negligible (unless you're really whoring out turning) one. That one monkey race from oriental adventures gets a wisdom bonus and no LA.

Mystify
2012-02-05, 02:08 AM
anthropomorphic bat has a +6 wis. It has a -4 dex and -2 charisma, but a cleric can handle that. You also have a fly speed of 20. Armour is problematic, and with that dex you'll want it, but if you don't try to melee with them it doesn't matter as much.

Acanous
2012-02-05, 02:28 AM
Strongheart Halfling. It's all the benefits of Halfling plus a bonus feat.
Plus you can roll with Belkar.

Yora
2012-02-05, 07:55 AM
Human

When in doubt, always human.

Yuki Akuma
2012-02-05, 08:55 AM
Human

I second this motion. Humans make the best villains.

gkathellar
2012-02-05, 09:01 AM
Necropolitan has all your nice undead immunities and qualities. No LA, technically, but you have to pay 3000 xp to be made into one.

No. You have to pay one level (which sets you halfway away from your previous level in terms of XP) and 1,000 xp to be made into one. It'll only cost you 3,000 xp if you perform it at exactly 5th level. Earlier it'll be less, later it'll be more.

Zaq
2012-02-05, 12:23 PM
I second this motion. Humans make the best villains.

Humans pretty much make the best everythings, at least mechanically.

elvengunner69
2012-02-05, 12:42 PM
I second this motion. Humans make the best villains.

She turned me into a NEWT!

I got better.

Free Speech!

Yuki Akuma
2012-02-05, 02:00 PM
Humans pretty much make the best everythings, at least mechanically.

That's not true!

...Strongheart Halflings are the best at Dex-based classes, and Azurins are the best at Incarnum!

gkathellar
2012-02-05, 02:05 PM
Humans pretty much make the best everythings, at least mechanically.

Dunno. Hellbred*, Raptorans and Lesser Planetouched give them a run for their money.

*Body Hellbred are just insane if they're allowed to do the Dark Chaos Shuffle, netting something like four or five bonus feats from their race. Soul Hellbred get 100-ft. Telepathy at 15th level, which speaks for itself.

nyarlathotep
2012-02-05, 02:26 PM
Telepathy at 15th level, which speaks for itself.

You're just terrible.

Manateee
2012-02-05, 02:45 PM
Azurin, for Turning pool abuse. And the bonus feat.

hex0
2012-02-05, 02:48 PM
Elan. You are an abberation... :smallwink:

hisnamehere
2012-02-06, 12:53 AM
Jermlaine?