Need help with evil characer.

[CmdrZeroC]

I am playing a Lawful Evil ranger stuck in a group with a bunch of neutral and good characters. I am looking for a way to nullify magic from them that can be used specifically against my character type. Any suggestions on items or possible traits to pick-up would be helpful.:smallamused:

[GodGoblin]

Try and get a magic circle against good? Or hide your alignment so they dont know youre evil should work.

Remember though just because youre evil doesnt mean you cant be good friends with the rest of the party, you have different out looks on life but could be childhood friends or even family so PvP doesnt have to be a problem.

The best Evil character I played had a wife who he loved and was good friends with some other PCs (on the N/G spectrum), yeah he was ruthless and selfish but he was still a man with the usual emotions. I think thats the most important thing to remember when playing evil. Think Roy and Belkar form Oots!

[Red_Dog]

Protection from Good to ward Vs mind control. Just get a wand with that. I am not sure if rangers have that on their spell list though... Undetectable alignment is useful too..

Other than that, have you welcomed lying/bluff into your life? Strongest weapon in your toolbox is roleplaying. If you seem to go along with all there goals, they have no issues with you [unless they meta game]. Most successful villains win in the campaign's end when while helping the party you accomplished all of your goals without anyone knowing.

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Do note, that stealing screen is a slippery slope that makes people angry. So acting very little (being quite and such) IN party while being more active outside them could mitigate the screen time balance. Be aware that a lot of people will still have issues with it as i puts strain on the DM.
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Overall do beware that while some people like party conflict,a lot of people find it unacceptable. It is a co-operative game as much at is roleplaying. Depending on what aspect your group focuses on, conflict will either be frowned up on or encouraged.

[ClothedInVelvet]

GodGoblin is right. Just because you're evil doesn't mean you have nothing in common with them. On some things, you'll probably even agree with them.

To hide your alignment, just carry around a lead sheet.
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0281.html

[Mr.Tickles]

Also be aware that a lot of players are metagaming buggers and will try rolling sense motive on you over and over again even when their characters have no reason to not believe you.

[Red_Dog]

GodGoblin & ClothedInVelvet =>

Usually I would say, it depends on how the group interprets alignment system.
Innate "evil" interpretation for example is a lot more black and white than gray. While a general "god game"[mortals bicker, gods know kind of deal] interpretation could be viewed as almost fully gray area.

Traditional D&D cosmology can be viewed as totally black & white[that is not how I view it], bt it does have plenty of room for gray areas.

Overall is is a philosophy and not a D&D question.

However here is a simple way to unify mixed aligment party=>
Have similar short-term goals. Its simple really, the reason to pursue a simple goal like "kill ze evil king/lich/dragon/etc." can be viewed differently by every alignment[getting his power for himself, making the word a better place, doing a will of gods, avenging my father/etc. or JUST CAUSE]. But in the end of the day, the only real thing that will differ is the method. And that is ALWAYS debated by every party, so that's nothing knew.

[ClothedInVelvet]

GodGoblin & ClothedInVelvet =>

Usually I would say, it depends on how the group interprets alignment system.
Innate "evil" interpretation for example is a lot more black and white than gray. While a general "god game"[mortals bicker, gods know kind of deal] interpretation could be viewed as almost fully gray area.

Traditional D&D cosmology can be viewed as totally black & white[that is not how I view it], bt it does have plenty of room for gray areas.

Overall is is a philosophy and not a D&D question.

However here is a simple way to unify mixed aligment party=>
Have similar short-term goals. Its simple really, the reason to pursue a simple goal like "kill ze evil king/lich/dragon/etc." can be viewed differently by every alignment[getting his power for himself, making the word a better place, doing a will of gods, avenging my father/etc. or JUST CAUSE]. But in the end of the day, the only real thing that will differ is the method. And that is ALWAYS debated by every party, so that's nothing knew.

Right. For example, I ran an LE character in a very low-level campaign. We were mostly clearing mines and forests of kobolds, orcs, and the like. They did it to protect the peaceful settlement, my character did it because he was a human supremacist and wished death upon the other races. We could work together because we had the same objectives most of the time.

[CmdrZeroC]

One of the party members senses motive on everything (including a beholder temple).

We are all really good friends have been so for many years. It an Rp element that i gave my character that when in combat once she has a target her goal is to make sure that it dies and doesn't get back up. That became an issue when the rest of the party was under the impression that the person i was going to finish was suppose to kept alive, and thus had to physically prevent me from killing this person.

The party dynamic is pretty much a group of people that really don't like each other but keep getting put in situations where that have to work together. Since we are all specialist at one thing or another.

[Red_Dog]

One of the party members senses motive on everything (including a beholder temple).

I Declare my Sense Motive on you!
http://www.goblinscomic.com/comics/20060204.jpg

Sorry, had to go for it ^^.

[panaikhan]

Our group is wierd.
I started a PF campaign last year with a LE Summoner. I didn't lie. I didn't hide. My summons had the Infernal template. I said things like "do there have to be survivors?" "It's not stealing if they're dead." "Of course I'd shoot him in the back, it's a pity he's still awake" etc. etc. I made references to Belkar's lead sheet.

At about L6, one of the other players said "Wait, is the summoner evil then?"

[CmdrZeroC]

Haha Very nice Red Dog
Our DM had us chose misfit or generally hated Races for the sake of the adventure so it's a group of people that are chastised all the time. (Shifter, Drow, Fey, Half Orc, and Changeling)

@panaikhan
Sounds like how i run my character. But i'm lawful, so as long as we are working together on a common goal i won't intentionally try to kill them... The DM on the other hand likes to dominate my character so all bets are off until they dispel.

[Red_Dog]

Our DM had us chose misfit or generally hated Races for the sake of the adventure so it's a group of people that are chastised all the time. (Shifter, Drow, Fey, Half Orc, and Changeling)

And yet, no sign of Half-Elves... proof of just HOW much WotC hates them lol.

Keep in mind btw that Protection from X gives you anti-compulsion effect, regardless of the ailment's source. Its a broken spell, but if you can, abuse it ^^.

[CmdrZeroC]

Talk about broken, this is my first ever D&D game and through fortune and the willingness to test magical items, i have gotten some pretty nasty stuff.

Boots than make me land on my feet no matter what, a necklace of second chances, and a greater wand of wonders.

That's a much better idea. Thanks Red, im also going to look into getting the funds to acquire a anti magic orb.

[Red_Dog]

*The reason Protection from X is soooo broken is because its 2nd lvl spell and it blocks soooo many different powerful effects. It doesn't make you immune vs all mind effects, however, compulsion is usually one of THE most powerful effects that takes control away from you. To nullify that so easily is rather too easy IMO^^*

Is Magic Item Compendium allowed in you game? Talk about ambiguously worded items, try boots of steadfast determination. Gold for your local Dungeon Crusher with cometary collision.

For you, might I recommend, quicksilver boots? swift action for free move action 3/day for only 3.5k ^^ Also while that move action is done, you can move over water [pulling Flash on this one]. ^^

[CmdrZeroC]

Yes, there is a whole host of books at our disposal. As far as i can tell if we show it to the DM he will see what he can do about the possibilities of acquisition.

Heck he pretty much made my character, with my input along the way.
It's a Dreamsight shifter ranger.