OOTS in the Media

[The Giant]

This thread is for the collection of mentions of OOTS, GITP, and me personally in media sources, especially as a result of the Kickstarter drive. If you find an article that hasn't been listed yet, post it here. Try to avoid sites that are just reposting material from elsewhere, or personal blogs (unless that blog is a Big Deal), but feel free to list anything older, too.

I'll edit in the best ones back to this post and we should end up with a nice list.

Interviews with Rich Burlew:
Comics Alliance (2/7/2012) (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/02/07/rich-burlew-kickstarter-order-stocl/)
GeekAdemia podcast (2/11/2012) (http://podcasts.non-productive.com/index.php?id=542)
Kickstarter Blog (2/20/20120) (http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/featured-creator-rich-burlew-creator-of-order-of-t)
Washington Post: Comic Riffs (2/21/2012) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/comic-riffs/post/new-kickstarter-record-order-of-the-stick-webcomic-creator-rich-burlew-cites-huge-geeky-safety-net-in-12m-donation-campaign/2012/02/21/gIQAbMJSRR_blog.html)
Singularity Hub (3/6/2012) (http://singularityhub.com/2012/03/06/the-crowd-funding-phenomenon-continues-–-comic-raises-1-2m-on-kickstarter/)

Articles About the OOTS Kickstarter Drive:
The Beat (1/29/2012) (http://comicsbeat.com/the-235k-and-counting-kickstarter-comic/) (2/18/2012) (http://comicsbeat.com/will-order-of-the-stick-hit-1-million-on-kickstarter/) (2/19/2012) (http://comicsbeat.com/order-of-the-stick-breaks-the-1m-barrier/) (2/21/2012) (http://comicsbeat.com/1254120-for-order-of-the-stick/)
Comics Alliance (1/31/2012) (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/01/31/order-of-the-stick-kickstarter/)
Publisher's Weekly (2/10/2012) (http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/book-news/comics/article/50602-kickstarter-raises-600k-for-web-comic---ashes--rebounds.html) (2/21/2012) (http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/book-news/comics/article/50733-web-comic-raises-1-25m-on-kickstarter.html) (2/27/2012) (http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/book-news/comics/article/50797-rich-burlew-talks-about-his-1-million-kickstarter-book-project.html)
Digital Spy UK (2/19/2012) (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a366625/the-order-of-the-stick-kickstarter-nears-usd1m.html) (2/21/2012) (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a366937/order-of-the-stick-kickstarter-tops-usd1-million.html)
e-books report (2/13/2012 (http://www.e-book-news.de/order-of-the-stick-comic-reprint-projekt-erzielt-auf-kickstarter-650-000-dollar/) [German]
Forbes (2/20/2012) (http://www.forbes.com/sites/suwcharmananderson/2012/02/20/million-dollar-book-proves-kickstarter-model-now-authors-just-need-the-reach/)
Venture Beat (2/20/2012) (http://venturebeat.com/2012/02/20/kickstarter-million-project-pledge-order-of-the-stick/)
The Guardian (2/22/2012) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/feb/22/author-raises-1m-self-publish-webcomic?newsfeed=true)
The Globe and Mail (2/22/2012) (=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/russell-smith/who-needs-publishers-when-you-can-pitch-a-book-on-social-media/article2346322/)
Comic Report (2/22/2010) (http://www.comic-report.de/index.php/news/38-internet/289-1million-webomic) [German]
Volkskrant (2/23/2012) (http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2694/Internet-Media/article/detail/3198460/2012/02/23/Webcomic-haalt-miljoen-dollar-op-op-Kickstarter.dhtml) [Dutch]
Kickstarter Blog (2/24/2012) (http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/this-week-in-kickstarter-15?ref=email) (3/29/2012) (http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/blockbuster-effects)
Crain's New York Business (2/26/2012) (http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20120226/SMALLBIZ/120229934)
The Marker (date unknown) (http://www.themarker.com/wallstreet/1.1649718) [Israeli]
Boing Boing (3/13/2012) (http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/interview-with-order-of-the-st.html)
Tor Blog (3/19/2012) (http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/03/kickstarting-order-of-the-stick) (4/11/2012) (http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/04/a-modest-proposal-for-increased-diversity-in-dungeons-and-dragons)
MTV Geek (4/19/2012) (http://geek-news.mtv.com/2012/04/18/rich-burlew-kickstarter-comic/)
New York Times (4/30/2012) (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/30/technology/three-years-of-kickstarter-projects.html)
Wired (7/26/2012) (http://www.wired.com/design/2012/07/st_kickstarter/?pid=682&viewall=true)
Bloomberg Businessweek (8/17/2012) (http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-08-17/kickstarter-projects-generate-millions-of-dollars)
CNBC (8/20/2012) (http://www.cnbc.com/id/48725154/page/2/)
CNN Money (12/18/2012) (http://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2012/12/18/kickstarter-ship-late/index.html) (12/18/2012) (http://money.cnn.com/interactive/technology/kickstarter-projects-shipping/?iid=EL)
Buisness Insider (7/17/2013) (http://www.businessinsider.com/the-highest-funded-kickstarters-2013-7#comics-the-order-of-the-stick-reprint-drive-5)

Reviews:
Webcomic Overlook (6/4/2008) (http://webcomicoverlook.com/2008/06/04/the-webcomic-overlook-44-order-of-the-stick/)
Time (11/25/2008) (http://techland.time.com/2008/11/25/in-praise-of-the-order-of-the-stick/)
Black Gate Magazine (1/22/2012) (http://www.blackgate.com/2012/01/22/a-few-words-about-the-order-of-the-stick/)
Geek Nights (3/14/2012) (http://frontrowcrew.com/geeknights/20120314/order-of-the-stick/)
Non-Productive (2/13/2012) (http://non-productive.com/blog/2012/02/13/genre-love-stories-nale-and-sabine/) (10/6/2012) (http://non-productive.com/blog/2012/10/06/villains-month-xykon/)
Comics Alliance (1/9/14) (http://comicsalliance.com/order-of-the-stick-rich-burlew-review/)

Other:
PC Magazine (Best Webcomics 2015) (2/14/2015) (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2399081,00.asp)

[FlayerIV]

Also add the Facebook, blog and twitter profiles of just about every person who contributed.

[JSSheridan]

The Washington Post article says you're in Philadelphia, but I thought you resided in Queens, NY.

[The Giant]

I did live in Queens when OOTS started. I've just never changed my forum location for some reason. I guess I should do that; once the Washington Post says I live somewhere, who am I to argue?

[One Skunk Todd]

I did live in Queens when OOTS started. I've just never changed my forum location for some reason. I guess I should do that; once the Washington Post says I live somewhere, who am I to argue?

The guy who can print stuff on dead trees and still increase his subscriber base? ~rimshot~ :)

[Mysterio]

Rich, to echo some of the comments on the Kickstarter blog, you really did everything right here, you nailed it. I haven't looked in on too many other kickstarter projects, but the ones I've looked at seem fairly static... "Here's our project, here's some rewards. Thanks for pledging." The way you kept the ball rolling, with new and varied rewards, mystery goals, even the entertaining updates and graphs, that's something other project organizers should take note of. The demands that must have been placed on you trying to keep up with comments and emails while trying to arrange new rewards and still produce the webcomic had to have been staggering. Yet throughout it all you never once came across (in my opinion) as "a guy asking for money". You came across as a grateful professional who was busting his ass to reward and entertain his fans and backers.

of course, this is your business, so reap those rewards sir. You deserve it.

Oh and as a suggestion, later in the year when you do another strip-a-day sprint... just save some up ahead of time and don't tell anyone. :smallwink: We'll never know the difference.

Oh and next time... animated gifs. :smalltongue:

[Porthos]

A pair of stories from Digital Spy, one as the drive was approaching $1M and one after it shattered it. Content is on the light side, but as DS is one of the larger websites in the UK, it probably deserves a mention:

'The Order of the Stick' Kickstarter nears $1m (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a366625/the-order-of-the-stick-kickstarter-nears-usd1m.html)
'Order of the Stick' Kickstarter tops $1 million (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a366937/order-of-the-stick-kickstarter-tops-usd1-million.html)

I don't know how much of a "Big Deal" VentureBeat is, but it was Big Enough to be captured by Google News for the news article aggragator:

Kickstarter gets its third $1M project in the span of two weeks with Order of the Stick (http://venturebeat.com/2012/02/20/kickstarter-million-project-pledge-order-of-the-stick/)

===

Checking some more, I see The Guardian (!), one of the major newspapers in the UK has weighed in (it'll probably be an onlne only mention, but still a hige deal):

Author raises $1m to self-publish Order of the Stick webcomic book (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/feb/22/author-raises-1m-self-publish-webcomic?newsfeed=true)

That's all I gots at the moment. Now I'm actually going to go over and see just what the Grauniad has to say about this little drive. :smallamused:

[Euodiachloris]

Here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/feb/22/author-raises-1m-self-publish-webcomic

Wish I could take the credit for finding that, but it was Jordan on the TV Tropes forum. And, as he said: that's some clout.

EDIT: Apology to Jordan... I messed up your name, originally. (Should you read this).

[t209]

I did live in Queens when OOTS started. I've just never changed my forum location for some reason. I guess I should do that; once the Washington Post says I live somewhere, who am I to argue?

You are living in Philadelphia or still in Queens.
P.S- Queens as in the one in King of Queens?

[Porthos]

Here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/feb/22/author-raises-1m-self-publish-webcomic

Wish I could take the credit for finding that, but it was Enlong on the TV Tropes forum.

Hee Hee Hee Hee Hee.

Gotcha. :smallcool:

[Euodiachloris]

Gotcha. :smallcool:

Ouch! That hurt! You sneak! :smallwink:

[Sunken Valley]

I did live in Queens when OOTS started. I've just never changed my forum location for some reason. I guess I should do that; once the Washington Post says I live somewhere, who am I to argue?

You appear to have lost your gender in your profile update. Was that intentional

[CoffeeIncluded]

P.S- Queens as in the one in King of Queens?

What are you talking about? Queens is a borough of New York City and a county in New York State, one of two on Long Island (the other is Brooklyn which is closer to Manhattan, Brooklyn is sometimes known as Kings County but nobody calls it that). Queens is probably one of the most ethnically diverse places in the world; over 150 languages are spoken there.

[I Participated]

Comicsbeat.com has several articles/posts.
Eg http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/02/18/will-order-of-the-stick-hit-1-million-on-kickstarter/

And Rich/OOTS is also referred to in this article from 9th Feb, and discussed in its comments (including a comment from Neil Gaiman):
http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/02/09/steve-niles-views-on-piracy-are-evolving/

Irritatingly, several commenters don't quite have their facts right, and no-one *twitch* has corrected *twitch* them. :smallfurious:

Eg this incorrect assumption: "any ad-revenue generated from hits goes directly to him, and not to pirate website owners (MangaFox) or sites hosting the torrents (megaupload- now dead)."

[Bastian]

Rich,
congratulations from my heart!

ps: you even made it to Forbes - nomen omen, it seems :smallwink:

[Flame of Anor]

What are you talking about? Queens is a borough of New York City and a county in New York State, one of two on Long Island (the other is Brooklyn which is closer to Manhattan, Brooklyn is sometimes known as Kings County but nobody calls it that). Queens is probably one of the most ethnically diverse places in the world; over 150 languages are spoken there.

I think King of Queens is a TV show.

[fishguy]

From New Zealand, just a brief mention along with an excerpt from the Forbes piece, but I think it is important to note that folks are now pointing to OOTS' Kickstarter success as an indication of important ground breaking trends in publishing. Rich Burlew, Pioneer.

http://www.listener.co.nz/commentary/the-internaut/boys-big-american-adventure-and-taikas-advice-for-the-oscars/

[t209]

What are you talking about? Queens is a borough of New York City and a county in New York State, one of two on Long Island (the other is Brooklyn which is closer to Manhattan, Brooklyn is sometimes known as Kings County but nobody calls it that). Queens is probably one of the most ethnically diverse places in the world; over 150 languages are spoken there.

What I mean for "King of Queens" is from the Television show named after this quote.

[The Giant]

OK, info edited (and a little format change, since we have some outlets with multiple articles).

Also: I now have incontrovertible proof that Neil Gaiman read a webpage with my name on it. Would it be unprofessional to squee at this point?

[Archwizard]

Not at all Rich, not at all.

[ThePhantasm]

Would it be unprofessional to squee at this point?

No, not at all. :smallbiggrin:

[SarahV]

Also: I now have incontrovertible proof that Neil Gaiman read a webpage with my name on it. Would it be unprofessional to squee at this point?

I believe it would be unprofessional NOT to.

I sat right behind him at a concert one time, but the only insight I can offer from that experience is that his hair is even more of a mess up close :smalltongue:

[Bastian]

OK, info edited (and a little format change, since we have some outlets with multiple articles).

Also: I now have incontrovertible proof that Neil Gaiman read a webpage with my name on it. Would it be unprofessional to squee at this point?

I feel some moderate squeeing would be entirely professional

[I Participated]

And Rich/OOTS also referred to in this article from 9th Feb, and discussed in it's comments (including a comment from Neil Gaiman)


Also: I now have incontrovertible proof that Neil Gaiman read a webpage with my name on it. Would it be unprofessional to squee at this point?

Phew! Good you're able to give this the professional squee it deserves, instead the amateur sqeeing I gave it earlier today.

Also:
It's not incontrovertible proof, but I think we confidently assume Neil Gaiman has been peering over your shoulder during the last few days. :smallwink:

Aaaand... I didded a thing for Rich. In related new, Rich squees. *minisquee*

[Porthos]

Time for The Globe and Mail to chime in:

Who needs publishers when you can pitch a book on social media? (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/russell-smith/who-needs-a-publisher-when-you-can-pitch-a-book-on-social-media/article2346322/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2346322)

This was from earlier in the drive, but I think the Boing Boing article might deserve mention as well (http://boingboing.net/2012/02/01/order-of-the-stick-dd-webcomi.html) given its High Profile on the net.

[Jay R]

Also: I now have incontrovertible proof that Neil Gaiman read a webpage with my name on it. Would it be unprofessional to squee at this point?

Neil Gaiman now has incontrovertible proof that Rich Burlew has mentioned him on a public webpage.

He should squee.

[DreadArchon]

Neil Gaiman now has incontrovertible proof that Rich Burlew has mentioned him on a public webpage.

Perhaps it was a clever ruse on Mr. Gaiman's part to elicit that event. :smalltongue:

[SarahV]

Time for The Globe and Mail to chime in:

Who needs publishers when you can pitch a book on social media? (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/russell-smith/who-needs-a-publisher-when-you-can-pitch-a-book-on-social-media/article2346322/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2346322)

"But recently a writer/illustrator broke $1-million in pledges on Kickstarter – probably more than a publisher would have given him as an advance."

I guess the use of the word "probably" means they think there was some small possibility that, 6 weeks ago, some publisher could have been offering Rich a million-dollar advance, if he'd only thought to check in with them? Now that's optimism, right there.

[x2wolf]

"But recently a writer/illustrator broke $1-million in pledges on Kickstarter – probably more than a publisher would have given him as an advance."

I guess the use of the word "probably" means they think there was some small possibility that, 6 weeks ago, some publisher could have been offering Rich a million-dollar advance, if he'd only thought to check in with them? Now that's optimism, right there.
Wizard's might be happy to do so. However, Rich would lucky to have his soul after that.
Yes I know TheGiant has worked on some official D&D books and has had OOTS in Dragon Magazine, but the point is i am sure publishers would give Rich a lot of money, but he would probably lose most of his rights, including the right to sneeze.

[Jaros]

OK, info edited (and a little format change, since we have some outlets with multiple articles).

Also: I now have incontrovertible proof that Neil Gaiman read a webpage with my name on it. Would it be unprofessional to squee at this point?

I was about to post something along the lines of "Holy s***, The Washington Post and The Guardian?!"

It pales in comparison to this though.

[Euodiachloris]

Late to the squee-party about the Neil Gaiman sneak-attack (well, here, at least).

No, Rich, no: not unprofessional in the slightest. Gaussian Blur, rainbows, rains of hearts and and a dance around the room would not be over-doing it, either. :smallbiggrin:

[CoffeeIncluded]

OK, info edited (and a little format change, since we have some outlets with multiple articles).

Also: I now have incontrovertible proof that Neil Gaiman read a webpage with my name on it. Would it be unprofessional to squee at this point?

Oh no. In fact, I think you're professionally required to do so.

[Djagir]

You appear to have lost your gender in your profile update. Was that intentional

We now have proof that it's actually Vaarsuvius writing OotS. :smallwink:

[The Succubus]

Indeed - the Guardian is a big newspaper in the UK.

But seriously, having Neil Freaking Gaiman read your webpages? :biggrin:

[Porthos]

Rich? You might like to look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/#!/neilhimself/status/172387259381850112


Neil Gaiman
@neilhimself
Follow
Kickstarter. When it works. RT @GuardianBooks: Author raises $1m to self-publish Order of the Stick webcomic book gu.com/p/35kay/tf
(h/t F Kocsis from the Comments Thread on Kickstarter)

[CoffeeIncluded]

Rich? You might like to look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/#!/neilhimself/status/172387259381850112


(h/t F Kocsis from the Comments Thread on Kickstarter)

...Should we all take cover?

[Whiffet]

...Should we all take cover?

I suggest hiding behind the couch until we know it's safe.

Seriously though, that is just awesome. :smallcool: It's probably too much to hope Neil Gaiman actively follows OOTS, right?... yeah, sounds like way too much.

[The Glyphstone]

...Should we all take cover?

Fire in the hole!

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

[Fitzclowningham]

Rich, I humbly suggest you send Neil a set of the books, along with instructions to begin with SOD. Or maybe just a copy of SOD. Couldn't hurt.

[CoffeeIncluded]

Fire in the hole!

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

You're all probably going to hate me for this, but what the heck. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfJR6sAo0CU&feature=related)

[Haruki-kun]

Rich? You might like to look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/#!/neilhimself/status/172387259381850112


(h/t F Kocsis from the Comments Thread on Kickstarter)

....can I Squee? Please tell me I can squee. Screw it, I'm squeeing.

*squee*

[One More Giant]

First post here. Just thought I'd add in the Globe and Mail for thier coverage as well.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/russell-smith/who-needs-publishers-when-you-can-pitch-a-book-on-social-media/article2346322/


Nice one, Rich.

[PlaygroundKiwi]

From New Zealand, just a brief mention along with an excerpt from the Forbes piece, but I think it is important to note that folks are now pointing to OOTS' Kickstarter success as an indication of important ground breaking trends in publishing. Rich Burlew, Pioneer.

http://www.listener.co.nz/commentary/the-internaut/boys-big-american-adventure-and-taikas-advice-for-the-oscars/

Wow, I didn't know that Taika Waititi had a Kickstarter to launch Boy in the States. Another project I can get behind; I love that movie. It's not perfect, but it is excellent. The only movie I've ever been to where the audience applauded at the end.

I'm not sure the OOTS Kickstarter drive will ever be replicated, it's a unique event. Thanks again for letting me participate, Rich!

[Flame of Anor]

Rich? You might like to look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/#!/neilhimself/status/172387259381850112


Niiiiiiiiice.

[derfenrirwolv]

Gah... thats a squee only I and dogs can hear....

Grats Rich.

[Euodiachloris]

About the aforementioned Guardian article...

As of writing, it's the second most-viewed article in the Books section for the past 24 hours. Rats: beaten by Will Self. Oh, the humanity. :smallwink:

Kudos, Rich: you may bask, now. That is, if you're not dying of embarrassment. :smallbiggrin:

EDIT: Hyphen in the right place would help, girly. :smallyuk:

[Heblmedic]

What are you talking about? Queens is a borough of New York City and a county in New York State, one of two on Long Island (the other is Brooklyn which is closer to Manhattan, Brooklyn is sometimes known as Kings County but nobody calls it that). Queens is probably one of the most ethnically diverse places in the world; over 150 languages are spoken there.

King of Queens was a TV show starring Kevin James about a man and his wife who lived in Queens. Hence the king of Queens.

[Jiggs]

Hi,
I am sure, that not many will be able to read it, but the project (and its success) made it into German forums, too.

http://www.comic-report.de/index.php/news/38-internet/289-1million-webomic

http://www.krautfunding.net/tag/kickstarter/

http://www.e-book-news.de/order-of-the-stick-comic-reprint-projekt-erzielt-auf-kickstarter-650-000-dollar/

http://www.neunetz.com/2012/02/21/1-kickstarterprojekt-bekommt-ueber-2-millionen-us-dollar-3-kickstarter-projekt-erreicht-eine-million/

There is even a mentioning in a kinky corsett forum :amused:

If someone is really interested, I offer to translate.

Greetings
Michael from Germany

[SweetBB]

Rich? You might like to look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/#!/neilhimself/status/172387259381850112


(h/t F Kocsis from the Comments Thread on Kickstarter)

*tee hee* Check out the Kickstarter comments section...

Rich Burlew about 1 hour ago
OK...NOW the comic will be delayed because my head exploded.

[kschwingx]

Somehow I completely missed out on this awesome kickstarter. But! This is super exciting.

[Whiffet]

*tee hee* Check out the Kickstarter comments section...

Rich Burlew about 1 hour ago
OK...NOW the comic will be delayed because my head exploded.

"I NEED A LINK RIGHT NOW." Hee. :smallbiggrin: So did we add "subject of a tweet by Neil Gaiman" on our long list of achievements? I should go check. It's certainly more impressive than a bunch of the other stuff on there.

[Porthos]

"I NEED A LINK RIGHT NOW." Hee. :smallbiggrin: So did we add "subject of a tweet by Neil Gaiman" on our long list of achievements? I should go check. It's certainly more impressive than a bunch of the other stuff on there.

Achievement Unlocked - A Head Goes Kersplooie (Be the subject of a tweet from Neil Gaiman) :smallwink:

[Hardcore]

There is even a mentioning in a kinky corsett forum :amused:

Greetings
Michael from Germany

Interesting [drool] provide a link pls^^

[Vemynal]

O_O

-_-

O_O

-_-

O_O

Neil Gaiman tweeted about OOTS!!!

*brainmelt*

[FlawedParadigm]

Welp, Rich. Hope you're ready to be the most famous name in webcomic history. You earned it.

[Chess435]

Woohoo! :smalltongue:

[Absol197]

Since apparently I'm the only one who doesn't know: who is Neil Gaiman? And why is his opinion so worthwhile?

No, I don't watch TV much, why do you ask? :smalltongue:

[thepsyker]

He's a novelist and comic book writer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Gaiman

[Mutant Sheep]

He was also in an Arthur episode. That my friends, is a sign of greatness. :smallcool::smallbiggrin: (He also kinda... does just about everything cool.)

[t209]

He's a novelist and comic book writer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Gaiman

Sandman right?

He was also in an Arthur episode. That my friends, is a sign of greatness. (He also kinda... does just about everything cool.)
Don't forget Simpsons episode (we made a thread about the stick figures in this episode).

[MoonCat]

I haven't connected with much of Gaiman's work, but I still think it's pretty cool when a recognized geek icon mentions OoTS.

Now, if Terry Pratchett commented on OoTS, that is when my brain would explode. :smallwink:

[FlawedParadigm]

We should get George R. R. Martin over here. Imagine him and Rich working on -anything- together. Heh.

[Chess435]

At the rate of suggestions from you people, we'd eventually end up with the Ultimate Collaboration of Ultimate Destiny! Not that it's a bad thing. :smallwink:

[Midnight Son]

First post here. Just thought I'd add in the Globe and Mail for thier coverage as well.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/russell-smith/who-needs-publishers-when-you-can-pitch-a-book-on-social-media/article2346322/


Nice one, Rich.

Beat me too it. Welcome to posting though.

[Euodiachloris]

I haven't connected with much of Gaiman's work, but I still think it's pretty cool when a recognized geek icon mentions OoTS.

Now, if Terry Pratchett commented on OoTS, that is when my brain would explode. :smallwink:


:roach: No Good Omens? Well, that means you've read everything...

Only kidding, MoonCat. :smallsmile: I'd actually put money on that being one you have read. It was just a roach-like response that had to be given!

And, for the record: Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett are my two favourite authors of all time. Well, writers. Well, storytellers. (Neil, you're a multi-media pain to the cataloguing system.)

Rich is just below them, would you believe, sharing a tied-space with Ursula Le Guin and Daniel De Foe? (Yes, I'm weird.)

If we're talking crossovers: I've die a nerdy death of happiness if Terry Pratchett would allow Sam Vimes to join CPPD for a day in the PDF limelight... Or, I'd settle for Nobby. And, Colon, natch. :smallwink:

EDIT: Actually... Nobby might work as an incredibly improbable half Orc-Halfling combo. Particularly when you bear in mind what his father was like. :smalleek:

[Yendor]

If we're talking crossovers: I've die a nerdy death of happiness if Terry Pratchett would allow Sam Vimes to join CPPD for a day in the PDF limelight... Or, I'd settle for Nobby. And, Colon, natch. :smallwink:

Unfortunately, it would work better if Rich hadn't said he doesn't read Pratchett (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7195828&postcount=27).

[Jiggs]

Interesting [drool] provide a link pls^^

Can I post this here? :smallconfused:
(I don't want to get banned from the forum on my first day ;)
Well, I sumerise, they inform about kickstarter for collecting funds for a education Video about corsett-making and quote the success of the oots pledge drive.
Yes there are pictures of the Lady, but browse the web, there are so many.
If this is not enough, you can pn me for the link^^

[MoonCat]

:roach: No Good Omens? Well, that means you've read everything...

Only kidding, MoonCat. :smallsmile: I'd actually put money on that being one you have read. It was just a roach-like response that had to be given!

And, for the record: Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett are my two favourite authors of all time. Well, writers. Well, storytellers. (Neil, you're a multi-media pain to the cataloguing system.)

Read it, love it to bits. However, I can't be sure how much of it I liked was the work of Neil Gaiman, not Terry Pratchett.

[Joerg]

Read it, love it to bits. However, I can't be sure how much of it I liked was the work of Neil Gaiman, not Terry Pratchett.

See http://www.lspace.org/books/apf/words-from-the-master.html (search for good omens).

[Flame of Anor]

We should get George R. R. Martin over here. Imagine him and Rich working on -anything- together. Heh.

Oh, he already is, haven't you noticed? The last comic is clearly the Red-haired Wedding.

[Jennifer]

And you made to the Dutch newspaper Volkskrant

OOTS in Volkskrant (http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2694/Internet-Media/article/detail/3198460/2012/02/23/Webcomic-haalt-miljoen-dollar-op-op-Kickstarter.dhtml)

Volkskrant is one of three major Dutch newspapers.

Jennifer

[Michaeler]

Also: I now have incontrovertible proof that Neil Gaiman read a webpage with my name on it. Would it be unprofessional to squee at this point?

You are now allowed to email Neil Gaiman and hope he might reply in person. Seriously, you prove that his experiment with making American Gods free to download was not a blip.

[Kaya Kenobi]

Registered and posting now.

I wish I could have contributed myself, as I own everything Rick's printed thus far. But I'm unemployed so I'm just screwed on funds.

[Galidin]

The problem with rich doing something with Martin is he's too brief... 800+ comics? That's barely enough room for 2 1/2 books!

:p

Plus... the main cast has been alive WAY too long... god forbid they'd get involved roy wouldn't of been the only corpse by now.

Galidin

[Ridureyu]

We should get George R. R. Martin over here. Imagine him and Rich working on -anything- together. Heh.



The comic would update even less frequently than it does now, and 1/2 of each page would be lingering shots of stick-figure food.

[Flame of Anor]

and 1/2 of each page would be lingering shots of stick-figure food.

Have you noticed the most recent comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0841.html)? :smallwink: yes, I know you have

[Alsadius]

Small problem with the Globe and Mail link - it's currently =http//, not http://, so it doesn't show properly.

[Lonna]

One more article mentioning Rich from The Beat: http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/02/12/diesel-sweets-and-kickstarter-another-established-webcomic-getting-big-bucks-on-kickstarter/

[grimbold]

rich
this is amazing
we love you!

[Gorm_the_DBA]

For the record...particularly awesome given the hubbub about Wikipedia and attempted deleting of OOTS's entry a while back...

This Kickstarter drive has had enough media coverage to qualify as Noteworthy enough to have it's *own article* on Wikipedia (it's not up yet, but it's coming soon...)

I daresay that should qualify as a feather in Rich's cap, or more appropriately a trophy on his wall :)

[link3710]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/suwcharmananderson/2012/02/27/crowdfunding-an-opportunity-for-agents-as-well-as-authors/

Forbes released a second article.

[Flame of Anor]

For the record...particularly awesome given the hubbub about Wikipedia and attempted deleting of OOTS's entry a while back...

This Kickstarter drive has had enough media coverage to qualify as Noteworthy enough to have it's *own article* on Wikipedia (it's not up yet, but it's coming soon...)

I daresay that should qualify as a feather in Rich's cap, or more appropriately a trophy on his wall :)

Wow, that's pretty cool.

[Laws of Chaos]

http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/book-news/comics/article/50797-rich-burlew-talks-about-his-1-million-kickstarter-book-project.html

Just read this one

[Porthos]

Crain's New York Business (http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20120226/SMALLBIZ/120229934) (2-26-12) (In Print Form as well)
Practical Ecommerce (http://www.practicalecommerce.com/articles/3376-15-Top-Crowdfunding-Projects-on-Kickstarter) (2-23-12)

Drive referenced in, but not explicitly mention by name:
Talking Points Memo (http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/kickstarter-expects-to-provide-more-funding-to-the-arts-than-nea.php) (2-24-12)

[Armitage]

http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/book-news/comics/article/50797-rich-burlew-talks-about-his-1-million-kickstarter-book-project.html
Nice. I especially like that we now have estimates on how many books are a full print run. I assume the books sold during the drive have to be added to the numbers given in the article.

[Xapi]

For the record...particularly awesome given the hubbub about Wikipedia and attempted deleting of OOTS's entry a while back...

This Kickstarter drive has had enough media coverage to qualify as Noteworthy enough to have it's *own article* on Wikipedia (it's not up yet, but it's coming soon...)

I daresay that should qualify as a feather in Rich's cap, or more appropriately a trophy on his wall :)

I think a specific article on Wikipedia about the KS drive is a bad idea. I'd much rather spend time and effort making a better, more complete article for the OOTS, including the information regarding the drive.

[Giddon]

Nice. I especially like that we now have estimates on how many books are a full print run. I assume the books sold during the drive have to be added to the numbers given in the article.

I would guess from the article that in total there's about 100k books being printed of which 25-35k will be sold, which should equal to about 65-75k books ending up in stock.

I think that this information isn't set in stone though because even Rich does not know how much money he is getting yet. He posted on the Kickstarter site saying that he doesn't know how many of the pledges are international, nor how many are from TX or PA, so he isn't clear on how much money is actually getting to him.

[Gorm_the_DBA]

I think a specific article on Wikipedia about the KS drive is a bad idea. I'd much rather spend time and effort making a better, more complete article for the OOTS, including the information regarding the drive.

Both efforts can, and should, be done in parallel.

The OOTS article can, and should, have information about the impact of the Drive *on* the OOTS universe, the additional material, the stuff, the fact that Giant can now reinact the scene of Haley counting bags full of gold pieces, etc. It should have a crossreference to the Kickstarter article and the Drive article (once it's live)

The OOTS Kickstater Drive article can, and should, have information about the impact of the Drive on the wider world. Stuff like how it inspired a number of other webcomics (erfworld and a couple of others I've seen) to do their own, media discussions about crowd sourcing as a creative funding source, criticism (there has been some) of the way it worked, impacts on Kickstarter, etc.

When you look at it that way, making both articles makes sense. I also note that I don't edit the OOTS article, so it's not like the time I spent putting the other one together hurts the main article at all

[Euodiachloris]

The OOTS Kickstater Drive article can, and should, have information about the impact of the Drive on the wider world. Stuff like how it inspired a number of other webcomics (erfworld and a couple of others I've seen) to do their own, media discussions about crowd sourcing as a creative funding source, criticism (there has been some) of the way it worked, impacts on Kickstarter, etc.

I'll say: I've just splurged on a .cc domain-name for future creative endeavours as a result of all of the above. Creative Commons Licences ftw! Creative Crowd, too...

I'd've not have researched this to the point of finding a draft of the correct licence for my needs, were it not for the Drive. And, I doubt I'm the only one by a long chalk.

[The Giant]

Hrm. I really don't like how the Crain's one says that I have a chronic illness that "limits my ability to attract Web advertisers." As if I wanted my site to be plastered with ads, but I just couldn't manage to find any willing to take a chance on me. :smallannoyed:

I'm not going to add articles that mention me once, then go on to talk about Kickstarter, but the PW and Crain's are definitely going on the list.

[Euodiachloris]

Hrm. I really don't like how the Crain's one says that I have a chronic illness that "limits my ability to attract Web advertisers." As if I wanted my site to be plastered with ads, but I just couldn't manage to find any willing to take a chance on me. :smallannoyed:

Um: maybe producing a long-running, supposedly niche, stick-figure webcomic is seen as a chronic illness by many advertisers? :smallwink:

[SaintRidley]

Hrm. I really don't like how the Crain's one says that I have a chronic illness that "limits my ability to attract Web advertisers." As if I wanted my site to be plastered with ads, but I just couldn't manage to find any willing to take a chance on me. :smallannoyed:


I didn't particularly like that part either. I figure their train of thought goes illness -> irregular schedule -> advertisers reluctant to advertise.

You know, because nobody bothers with this site unless you update the comic. Active forums? What active forums?

[JCarter426]

I'd say it's more lack of ads = lack of ability to draw advertisers. And frankly, if you believe that, you've missed the point of this pledge drive entirely.

[Porthos]

Hrm. I really don't like how the Crain's one says that I have a chronic illness that "limits my ability to attract Web advertisers." As if I wanted my site to be plastered with ads, but I just couldn't manage to find any willing to take a chance on me. :smallannoyed:

I suspect it is because they read your News Page entry where you said one of the reasons why you don't do advertising on the main page of the comic is that you don't have a regular update schedule. But they chose not to explain your rationale in the best of ways.

[King of Nowhere]

Hrm. I really don't like how the Crain's one says that I have a chronic illness that "limits my ability to attract Web advertisers." As if I wanted my site to be plastered with ads, but I just couldn't manage to find any willing to take a chance on me. :smallannoyed:

I'm not going to add articles that mention me once, then go on to talk about Kickstarter, but the PW and Crain's are definitely going on the list.

I am a chessplayer of some skill and fo that I ended up on local newspapers on occasions, and that tougth me one thing: journalists have no idea what they're talking about. Maybe big newspapers will have specific experts for politics or other big stuff, but when it comes to those kind of secondary news, the guy who do the writing simply don't know the argument and will do the best he can with what he have, making a lot of mistakes in the process.
From my experience, you're lucky they at least got your name right: a good third of the times I was mentioned in papers, my name was misspelled.

[deworde]

Hrm. I really don't like how the Crain's one says that I have a chronic illness that "limits my ability to attract Web advertisers." As if I wanted my site to be plastered with ads, but I just couldn't manage to find any willing to take a chance on me. :smallannoyed:

To be honest, I can see how they made that jump from what you've said publicly about not adding ads to the site (partly) due to your update schedule, and your update schedule being (partly) defined by your illness.

On the other hand yeah, it does suggest that the barrier is the advertisers rather than your own ethics.

[The Glyphstone]

Hrm. I really don't like how the Crain's one says that I have a chronic illness that "limits my ability to attract Web advertisers." As if I wanted my site to be plastered with ads, but I just couldn't manage to find any willing to take a chance on me. :smallannoyed:

I'm not going to add articles that mention me once, then go on to talk about Kickstarter, but the PW and Crain's are definitely going on the list.

In modern business, "ethical standards" can be considered a disease.:smallsmile:

[Euodiachloris]

In modern business, "ethical standards" can be considered a disease.:smallsmile:

:smallcool:

That should be a bumper sticker.

[CoffeeIncluded]

Hrm. I really don't like how the Crain's one says that I have a chronic illness that "limits my ability to attract Web advertisers." As if I wanted my site to be plastered with ads, but I just couldn't manage to find any willing to take a chance on me. :smallannoyed:

I'm not going to add articles that mention me once, then go on to talk about Kickstarter, but the PW and Crain's are definitely going on the list.

You could send him an email asking for a correction in the article.

[Vemynal]

I didn't particularly like that part either. I figure their train of thought goes illness -> irregular schedule -> advertisers reluctant to advertise.

You know, because nobody bothers with this site unless you update the comic. Active forums? What active forums?

Even if you ignore the active forum you have 15,000 fans who were willing to spend money on this comic and god knows how many other fans who didn't spend money on the comic haha

The Playground should have advertising prices similar to the superbowl ;)

[Anarion]

Even if you ignore the active forum you have 15,000 fans who were willing to spend money on this comic and god knows how many other fans who didn't spend money on the comic haha

The Playground should have advertising prices similar to the superbowl ;)

Nice sentiment, although you're somewhere between 3 and 4 zeroes off for reaching superbowl viewership.

That said, I didn't understand the article to be making any argument about the proper cost of advertising, but rather the risk of advertising, which was apparently misunderstood due to the journalist not knowing how forums work.

[Euodiachloris]

That said, I didn't understand the article to be making any argument about the proper cost of advertising, but rather the risk of advertising, which was apparently misunderstood due to the journalist not knowing how forums work.

That, or didn't actually poke around the site enough to notice the existence of the forums. <shrugs>

Or did, but didn't actually click on them. Who knows? But, yeah: mangled research.

[Hilary Moon Murphy]

Rich --

I would like to blog a retrospective on the Kickstarter Drive. Would it be all right to use two of the images from the drive? I was thinking of the original Kickstarter (everyone kicking Belkar image) and either the image from Kickstarter Update #4 or Kickstarter Update #5.

Thanks so much for your answer.

Yours,
Hmm

[Xapi]

That, or didn't actually poke around the site enough to notice the existence of the forums. <shrugs>

Or did, but didn't actually click on them. Who knows? But, yeah: mangled research.

The advertising part is not about the forum, it's about the main comic site.

The comic is completely ad free, not because of Rich's illness, not because of the nature of a regular website vs a forum, but because it is Rich's bussiness decision.

The fact that the comic has an irregular schedule is a PART of the reason for that bussiness decision, at best, and Rich's illness is a PART of the reason for the irregular schedule, and the writer overestimated both effects to create a causal link between Rich's illness and the fact that the comic doesn't do ads.

His (the writer's) mistake had nothing to do with how a forum works, because he never looked at a forum, this is not about the forum, it's about the main comic site.

And actually, the forum does feature ads.

[lumosdefortuno]

Wizard's might be happy to do so. However, Rich would lucky to have his soul after that.
Yes I know TheGiant has worked on some official D&D books and has had OOTS in Dragon Magazine, but the point is i am sure publishers would give Rich a lot of money, but he would probably lose most of his rights, including the right to sneeze.

Souls are overrated :belkar:

[Maxios]

I am a chessplayer of some skill and fo that I ended up on local newspapers on occasions, and that tougth me one thing: journalists have no idea what they're talking about. Maybe big newspapers will have specific experts for politics or other big stuff, but when it comes to those kind of secondary news, the guy who do the writing simply don't know the argument and will do the best he can with what he have, making a lot of mistakes in the process.
From my experience, you're lucky they at least got your name right: a good third of the times I was mentioned in papers, my name was misspelled.

Same thing happened to me once. When I was younger (Nine or ten years old, IIRC) I was the headliner of the local newspaper (beating a homicide and the first birth in the area after New Years) because I wrote a 120 page book. The news-reporter wasn't even close to spelling my last name right.

[Gnome Alone]

Same thing happened to me once. When I was younger (Nine or ten years old, IIRC) I was the headliner of the local newspaper (beating a homicide and the first birth in the area after New Years) because I wrote a 120 page book. The news-reporter wasn't even close to spelling my last name right.

I'm going to be all Captain Obvious here and ask, "Wow, what kind of 120 page book did you write when you were nine or ten?"

Wow, what kind of 120 page book did you write when you were nine or ten?

[oppyu]

I was in the local newspapers for foiling an international act of terrorism, winning every Walkley award and being awarded the title of 'World's Most Beautiful Person' on the same day. But they spelled my name wrong as well.

[Idriël]

Not sure if this thread is also to be used for OotS in foreign media, but a big Dutch newspaper has put out a story on the OotS kickstarter:

http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2694/Internet-Media/article/detail/3198460/2012/02/23/Webcomic-haalt-miljoen-dollar-op-op-Kickstarter.dhtml

It's a very basic story, but if translations are needed, just holler!

[Sethala]

The link to The Globe and Mail in the first post has a bad url, looks like it somehow starts with www.=http.com//. Deleting that part made the link work fine, though.

[The Giant]

Singularity Hub did a Q&A with me about the future of media that you can read here (http://singularityhub.com/2012/03/06/the-crowd-funding-phenomenon-continues-–-comic-raises-1-2m-on-kickstarter/). Bonus points for including the first time I've ever been called "conservative" in my life.

[RMS Oceanic]

According to this Q&A you're referencing something from #294 in #845. To the archives!

*Browses*

Hmm, the confetti of Roy's torn up contracts could be a metaphor for the broken Order of the Scribble, or possibly used in reference to some destroyed documents that will shed light on the Draketooth philosophy and reveal the Shocking Secret™ that will cause every reader to rethink how truly noble Soon Kim was!

:smalltongue:

I think your summary of why your Kickstarter triumphed reflected my own thoughts: You engaged with us and turned into an event, and always had new stuff to keep drawing us in.

[Shale]

Maybe not personally, but I'm kind of surprised nobody's used the word for your merchandising strategy before.

Irregardless (*dodges fruit*), it's a good interview. Hooray for more coverage!

[Smolder]

When you sell a book, you’re competing with every other book out there. When you sell an experience, it’s always one-of-a-kind.

Well put, sir. Very good interview.


I’ve often heard it said that 1-2% of readers of a free product (like a webcomic) will purchase a given product, and certainly my experience has been in line with that. Before even considering using Kickstarter, therefore, a new comic would need to have a known audience at least fifty times as large as the number of backers they would need for their project to succeed if everyone pledged at the lowest level to get the main product.

So... one can estimate the size of the OotS audience as 50 times the number of backers? That would put readership at around 750,000 strong.

:smallcool:

[t209]

Bonus points for including the first time I've ever been called "conservative" in my life.
But You said that your comic has no relevance to politics. (I don't get it why they call you "conservative".)

[The Giant]

But You said that your comic has no relevance to politics. (I don't get it why they call you "conservative".)

It's not regarding politics. "Conservative" in this usage means simply not as willing to predict the overthrow of all existing distribution channels in favor of an egalitarian patronage model that puts no one work of art ahead of any other. Basically, he's saying my feelings about what will (or should) happen in the future regarding art and media are not as radical as his own predictions.

[The Giant]

Also, I have a Twitter now. www.twitter.com/RichBurlew More info to come on that later.

[fergo]

Also, I have a Twitter now. www.twitter.com/RichBurlew More info to come on that later.

Joined Twitter just for this :smallannoyed:.

[NerfTW]

Joined Twitter just for this :smallannoyed:.

Yup. This just sucked me in.

[Maxios]

I'm going to be all Captain Obvious here and ask, "Wow, what kind of 120 page book did you write when you were nine or ten?"

Wow, what kind of 120 page book did you write when you were nine or ten?

A story about a young detective and his friends investigating the mysterious shut down of a candy factory.

Basically, my teacher at the time was friends were a reporter. I showed my teacher the story, she showed it to the reporter, and the reporter decided to interview me for the paper.
The article also got posted on the newspaper's website. I even have the article in my Favorites.

[The Giant]

:smallannoyed:

Yeah, sorry about that. There's just too much information flying around and people who were drawn in by the Kickstarter don't always read the message board (and vice versa).

[Sunken Valley]

I hope being on twitter doesn't mean Mr B spends forever on Twitter til he starts focusing more on that and less on his work. Other celebrities have fallen this way (Stephen Fry, Stephen Moffat, Little Kuriboh).

Seeing makes me wonder what :nale:Twitter account. He uses too many words.

:vaarsuvius: twitter account. Too many characters.

[Macbeth017]

Since apparently I'm the only one who doesn't know: who is Neil Gaiman? And why is his opinion so worthwhile?
:



Don't feel too bad, I don't know who he is either....:smallredface:

[RMS Oceanic]

Don't feel too bad, I don't know who he is either....:smallredface:

The TL;DR is that he's a famous writer, having written stuff like Sandman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandman_(Vertigo)), American Gods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Gods) and Coraline (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coraline).

[CoffeeIncluded]

I hope being on twitter doesn't mean Mr B spends forever on Twitter til he starts focusing more on that and less on his work.

Somehow I don't think that will happen.

[SarahV]

For the Twitter-resenters, you don't have to sign up for an account, you can just bookmark Rich's page and check it every now and again (or put it into an RSS feed if you use that). You don't have to be logged in to read it.

[Euodiachloris]

Twitter...

<gloomy clouds of doomity-doom that loom and balloon melodramatically (darn, no 'oom') get inserted here>

I've been avoiding that 'cos I know what a chatterbox I am. I'm bad enough as it is. I really don't need any more incentive to waste time. :smallbiggrin:

Pass. For the time being. :smallwink:

[Totally Guy]

GeekNights podcast does an episode on Order of the Stick! (http://frontrowcrew.com/geeknights/20120314/order-of-the-stick/)

I met these guys at a con and I've been listening ever since. Rym runs one heck of a good convention game!

[Porthos]

Really good article about OotS and the Kickstarter drive over at Tor.com:

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/03/kickstarting-order-of-the-stick
(h/t John F. MacMichael from the comments section of the latest update)

Nice way to end it, I think:


Cory Doctorow cautions, over at Boing Boing (http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/interview-with-order-of-the-st.html), that this isn’t some sort of herald of the end of business models as we know it. The success of self-publishing superstars like Rich Burlew is more equivalent to winning the lottery or becoming a rockstar. A fair enough point, but the difference, I would argue, is that this isn’t random chance, or studio-driven. If this is gambling, it is poker, not the lotto. There are elements of luck and marketing at play, but there is also something else. There is the — pardon me if I get a little sappy — the interplay between a creator and his audience at work. The play, as a crazy Danish guy once said, is the thing. The Order of the Stick made a million dollars, and that is pretty cool. Rich Burlew had more than his 1000 true fans, and when the time came to cash in his chips, they came through.

As seen in the quoted paragraph above, there was another look at the drive from Boing Boing:

http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/interview-with-order-of-the-st.html

Mostly it's a recap of the interview with Singularity Hub, but Corey also chimes in with some thoughts of the whole thing.

[The Giant]

Thanks, these have all been added.

[Porthos]

Thanks, these have all been added.

The new Boing Boing link is messed up.

Here is is corrected: :smallsmile:

Boing Boing (3/13/2012) (http://boingboing.net/2012/03/13/interview-with-order-of-the-st.html)

[Euodiachloris]

Hmmm: Cory's piece for Tor.com is interesting. I got the distinct impression he's bumped into Sarah's views, but can't pin it down to an individual quote. And, taken them on board, to boot. The poker analogy certainly holds more water than the lottery one does, IMO.

Maybe for start-up strips, the lotto works. But not for OotS. And, Erfworld, too.

Plus, I loved the idea of Belkar nicking off with the Arkenstone. To be honest, I think he'd have quite a job hiding that from Haley :smallbiggrin:

[Porthos]

Hmmm: Cory's piece for Tor.com is interesting. I got the distinct impression he's bumped into Sarah's views, but can't pin it down to an individual quote. And, taken them on board, to boot. The poker analogy certainly holds more water than the lottery one does, IMO.

The article over at Tor and the one at Boing Boing were written by different people. Apologies if I didn't make that clear. :smallsmile:

[Euodiachloris]

The article over at Tor and the one at Boing Boing were written by different people. Apologies if I didn't make that clear. :smallsmile:

Uh -- that's totally my bad, and nothing to do with you, Porthos, old chum. I got mixed up. :smallredface:

Mordicai's article for Tor is what I meant. Although he did reference Cory's: which is where my muddle happened. Doh! :smallannoyed:

I blame my resident big shaggy dog of an illness (CFS/ ME) fogging my cognition. It's not me being stupid. Honest! :smallwink:

[Porthos]

Well, this is interesting.

The Order of the Stick had a small mention on a program for The Voice of Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Russia), which is the Russian government's international radio broadcasting service:

The internet helps the homeless, the less fortunate and the creative (http://english.ruvr.ru/radio_broadcast/36172287/68436029.html)

Broadcast on March 14th, 2012 15:16 Moscow Time, which would be 7:16am EDT.

It was only mentioned in a list of all of the super successful Kickstarter projects in the last couple of months, and no details about the strip were given. But, really, this is like being mentioned on Voice of America or the BBC World Service.

[Cieyrin]

Well, this is interesting.

The Order of the Stick had a small mention on a program for The Voice of Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Russia), which is the Russian government's international radio broadcasting service:

The internet helps the homeless, the less fortunate and the creative (http://english.ruvr.ru/radio_broadcast/36172287/68436029.html)

Broadcast on March 14th, 2012 15:16 Moscow Time, which would be 7:16am EDT.

It was only mentioned in a list of all of the super successful Kickstarter projects in the last couple of months, and no details about the strip were given. But, really, this is like being mentioned on Voice of America or the BBC World Service.

Sounds like a backhanded compliment to me but still, a mention is a mention.

[The Giant]

Nice! I'm not going to put it in the list because it doesn't really do anything but drop the comic's name in a list of recently successful KS drives. It's not really about OOTS.

[wybrand]

Nice! I'm not going to put it in the list because it doesn't really do anything but drop the comic's name in a list of recently successful KS drives. It's not really about OOTS.
A dutch paper also briefly mentioned you when talking about kickstarter at http://www.deondernemer.nl/economie/637043/Crowdfunden-werkt-dus-echt-wel.html

[Euodiachloris]

Uh. Although not specifically about the Drive... this... is certainly a contender for the "weirdest context to be mentioned in" prize... http://www.cartoonbrew.com/.

Uhhhhh: go, us? An Ode to and a Take That wrapped up in open letter format? Not the usual fare. :smallamused:

[The Giant]

Kickstarter Blog did a nice statistical analysis of the impact of OOTS and Double Fine using data that only they could see: http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/blockbuster-effects

[Dr. Gamera]

Linked from http://twitter.com/#!/RichBurlew -- OOTS shows up as an example of the use of a diverse cast.

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/04/a-modest-proposal-for-increased-diversity-in-dungeons-and-dragons

This link also helped me parse Rich's previous tweet about "diverse backgrounds" in the Kickstarter project called Prismatic Art Collection. "Why do I care whether the artwork shows the heroes standing in front of a sky or a forest? Ohhhhhh."

[The Giant]

This link also helped me parse Rich's previous tweet about "diverse backgrounds" in the Kickstarter project called Prismatic Art Collection. "Why do I care whether the artwork shows the heroes standing in front of a sky or a forest? Ohhhhhh."

Look, just because the game originated by depicting cool and temperate climates does not mean that we can't depict warmer terrains like deserts and jungles. Fantasy art does not have to only show the landscape types found in northern Europe in order for gamers to identify with it! :smallwink:

[Euodiachloris]

Look, just because the game originated by depicting cool and temperate climates does not mean that we can't depict warmer terrains like deserts and jungles. Fantasy art does not have to only show the landscape types found in northern Europe in order for gamers to identify with it! :smallwink:

And, you know... Moors only stuck to North Africa, anyway. And, Rome didn't ship people of all different types of skins all over at all, before that, either. Uh-uh. Nope. Not at all. Neither of these could possibly have had any effect anywhere in Europe for several hundred years, forgetting other points of contact on top of them. Nah. Never. :smallbiggrin:

Temperate always means white, no? :smallwink:

[CoffeeIncluded]

Look, just because the game originated by depicting cool and temperate climates does not mean that we can't depict warmer terrains like deserts and jungles. Fantasy art does not have to only show the landscape types found in northern Europe in order for gamers to identify with it! :smallwink:

Oh, I definitely agree. And it's so much fun also planning out the native flora and fauna, how people would adapt to living in different biomes, and how different biomes transition to each other. Seriously, any worldbuilder needs a good ecology textbook.

[Lord Raziere]

I think your right Coffee…..I've been focusing on the cities and people….but there is also wilderness too…..which I haven't…..hrm…..might have to read up on such things someday.

[t209]

And Coffee, I am thinking about tapping into other asian cultures that are ignored by people who tried to make Asian themed D&D adventures. Like Hui, Uyghur, and Central Asian culture (You know mountains, mixture of middle east and asian structure, and wool hats).
But I thought D&D core game is based on your imagination (as in you can make your own non white country and non white race (well human actually)).
Edit: I already edited out the need for WRPG's diverse race (Since Elderscrolls is not the only game with non white race (Redguard), I found out that guild wars have asian country).

[fergo]

The project looks... interesting. I'm not an RPGer myself, so I don't know to what extent other races are under-represented, but I'm willing to accept everyone's word for it. It's about time RPG games shook off the 'white and nerdy' tag (and can instead be 'multicultural and nerdy' :smalltongue:).

As an aside, t209, surely the fact that there's one non-white race in the Elder Scrolls games, and we can't even tell what they're meant to be, is a problem?

I don't know as much about the games and backstory as you and others do, but does anyone else think that their lack of cultural background makes them seem more like a general catch-all for non-white players?

(Correct me where I'm wrong, as I'm sure I am :smallwink:).

[The Giant]

Actually, I'm going to suggest that if anyone wants to discuss the article or its broader implications in any depth (without veering into politics), they do so in a new thread in the Roleplaying Games forum. I'd like to keep this thread fairly focused on just pointing out media mentions. Thanks.

[The Giant]

I guess this qualifies: MTV Geek did a comic strip about my Kickstarter here (http://geek-news.mtv.com/2012/04/18/rich-burlew-kickstarter-comic/), though I can't say I care for the characterization that I have money to burn. It's all being spent on the project or reinvesting in the business.

[ThePhantasm]

I guess this qualifies: MTV Geek did a comic strip about my Kickstarter here (http://geek-news.mtv.com/2012/04/18/rich-burlew-kickstarter-comic/), though I can't say I care for the characterization that I have money to burn. It's all being spent on the project or reinvesting in the business.

Yeah, I detect hints of jealousy in that article for what they (wrongly) perceive to be the outcome of the Kickstarter Drive. Stuff like "Then you might think 'what the #^@% would I spend all that money on, since I don’t need anywhere near that to make a comic book.' And again, you’d be right." I don't think they looked long at the drive page before just running with their assumptions.

[The Giant]

Yeah, I detect hints of jealousy in that article for what they (wrongly) perceive to be the outcome of the Kickstarter Drive. Stuff like "Then you might think 'what the #^@% would I spend all that money on, since I don’t need anywhere near that to make a comic book.' And again, you’d be right." I don't think they looked long at the drive page before just running with their assumptions.

Agreed. I've noticed a definite uptick in the number (and profile) of people publicly ripping on me for one reason or another—whether it's over the quality of the strip or some out-of-context quote or how I don't deserve financial success or what have you. It's pretty disheartening, but I guess it's probably normal given the amount of attention I've gotten.

But seriously, I wouldn't pay a penny for any of those suggestions.

[fergo]

Agreed. I've noticed a definite uptick in the number (and profile) of people publicly ripping on me for one reason or another—whether it's over the quality of the strip or some out-of-context quote or how I don't deserve financial success or what have you. It's pretty disheartening, but I guess it's probably normal given the amount of attention I've gotten.

But seriously, I wouldn't pay a penny for any of those suggestions.

Also, blond? Now that's just weird :smalleek:.

[t209]

Also, blond? Now that's just weird :smalleek:.

I think that MTV dudes are plain mean and never read OOTS and never know about his life. He stopped playing D&D after the popularity of OOTS.

[ella ventic]

I actually don't see anything mean-spirited or jealous (or even under-informed) about that comic. Though it's true that the representation of Rich is inaccurate, it seems pretty clear that it's all meant as a good-natured lark. I imagine the train of thought was something like: "Holy cow, One Of Us just made a million dollars! That's AWESOME!" "Ha, I wonder what your average geek would spend $1M dollars on?... hey, comic premise!" And they used Rich as the set-up to the premise because, well, he was the set-up to the premise. Nothing personal!

[Fri]

I actually don't see anything mean-spirited or jealous (or even under-informed) about that comic. Though it's true that the representation of Rich is inaccurate, it seems pretty clear that it's all meant as a good-natured lark. I imagine the train of thought was something like: "Holy cow, One Of Us just made a million dollars! That's AWESOME!" "Ha, I wonder what your average geek would spend $1M dollars on?... hey, comic premise!" And they used Rich as the set-up to the premise because, well, he was the set-up to the premise. Nothing personal!

Yeah, I have to post here also to say that. I know that a lot of people are getting mean to Rich, but I don't see this as one of them. I mean, don't let the stress of your success rob your fun side Rich!

[Euodiachloris]

Yeah, I have to post here also to say that. I know that a lot of people are getting mean to Rich, but I don't see this as one of them. I mean, don't let the stress of your success rob your fun side Rich!

I also read it as an affectionate parody more than anything else. Either that, or I just give the benefit of the doubt too easily. I don't know.

I did chuckle at the suggestion of the mid-ranged hotel for Comic Con, though. :smallbiggrin: That was most solidly aimed at sudden, inexplicable and totally "justified" price rises rather than Rich, methinks... For some unknown reason. :smallamused:

[t209]

About the death of Draeney and Jon Snow in Winds of Winter..Is it meant to show how grim the story of Song of Ice and Fire since Cersei and Lannisters are evil. I know it isn't released but the good guys (well, not so good) are getting killed
Eddard Stark. I will put your name in my RIP list.

[The Glyphstone]

Well, this is interesting.

The Order of the Stick had a small mention on a program for The Voice of Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Russia), which is the Russian government's international radio broadcasting service:

The internet helps the homeless, the less fortunate and the creative (http://english.ruvr.ru/radio_broadcast/36172287/68436029.html)

Broadcast on March 14th, 2012 15:16 Moscow Time, which would be 7:16am EDT.

It was only mentioned in a list of all of the super successful Kickstarter projects in the last couple of months, and no details about the strip were given. But, really, this is like being mentioned on Voice of America or the BBC World Service.

In Capitalist Russia....radio promotes you?
...
...
eh, I got nothing.

[Dr. Gamera]

I can't say I care for the characterization that I have money to burn.

I fear that such mischaracterizations and misunderstandings are inevitable. Too many people lack the business acumen necessary just to distinguish between "a million dollars in profits" and "a million dollars in revenue", without even mentioning the concept of "the profits from that revenue are themselves only being reinvested".

[Yagerr]

Agreed. I've noticed a definite uptick in the number (and profile) of people publicly ripping on me for one reason or another—whether it's over the quality of the strip or some out-of-context quote or how I don't deserve financial success or what have you. It's pretty disheartening, but I guess it's probably normal given the amount of attention I've gotten.

But seriously, I wouldn't pay a penny for any of those suggestions.

We pay millions upon millions for people to catch/bounce/hit off a tee a ball, so who is to say a guy who can get people to read a comic about stick figures for years doesn't deserve the same (or more).

LOVE YOUR COMIC

[t209]

Found four year old TIMES article on OOTS (http://techland.time.com/2008/11/25/in-praise-of-the-order-of-the-stick/).
Just wish Fox News to not make an article on OOTS like they did to minecraft (http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/01/s-inspired-minecraft-takes-online-gaming-world/)
Like thinking that Infiniminer and Dwarf Fortress is Notch's creation.

[Aurorax]

Take a look at the New York Times chart for Kickstarter under the Comics category. Guess which kickstarter project totally skewed the average? :smallbiggrin: Too bad we weren't mentioned by name.


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/30/technology/three-years-of-kickstarter-projects.html

[LordRahl6]

This may be slightly off topic but I discovered this phrase of the title screen while playing Minecraft.

Haley loves Elan

I had screenshot of it but that won't work:smallfurious:

[Chess435]

This may be slightly off topic but I discovered this phrase of the title screen while playing Minecraft.

Haley loves Elan

I had screenshot of it but that won't work:smallfurious:

That's been in there for months...

[t209]

I think I know why they made Rich Blonde?
I'm thinking Copyright.

[Armitage]

I doubt copyright works the way you think it does.

[Ave]

Yeah, I detect hints of jealousy in that article for what they (wrongly) perceive to be the outcome of the Kickstarter Drive.

A hint of jealousy? That comic is oozing with jealousy.
Olivia Munn, anyone?

[Rad]

I've found a mention (and a link) to OotS in The Economist (http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2012/05/web-comics). The article is about webcomics and mentions OotS and its kickstarter success but it focuses mostly on Diesel Sweeties :smallfrown:
I'm not sure if it really qualifies as being about the comic, but I thought it still deserved to be mentioned on the boards.

[Euodiachloris]

I'd say being repeatedly used as a benchmark in The Economist counts as an achievement. A scarily cool achievement.

Uh... need an emote for that: I'm stuck between three. :smallbiggrin:

I'll settle for :xykon:. :smallwink:

[The Giant]

I think the Economist mention is perfunctory enough that I'm not going to include it. They don't actually say anything beyond a single statement of fact.

[Thiel]

Take a look at the New York Times chart for Kickstarter under the Comics category. Guess which kickstarter project totally skewed the average? :smallbiggrin: Too bad we weren't mentioned by name.


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/30/technology/three-years-of-kickstarter-projects.html

It's funny how sitting on a fourth of all the pledges tends to do that. :D

[EmperorSarda]

MTV Geek (4/19/2012) (http://geek-news.mtv.com/2012/04/18/rich-burlew-kickstarter-comic/)
New York Times [http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/30/technology/three-years-of-kickstarter-projects.html](4/30/2012)
It should probably be changed to (4/30/2012) (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/30/technology/three-years-of-kickstarter-projects.html) to fix the broken link

[theangelJean]

Is the Wired interview available online anywhere? Or is there a paywall?

[The Giant]

I don't know. I couldn't find it online, but I wasn't about to pay for access, either.

[McNum]

It's not the interview, but Wired has a short article up about 5 Kickstarter Projects Slammed With Success (http://www.wired.com/design/2012/07/st_kickstarter/?pid=682&viewall=true).

A list of Kickstarter projects that went way over expectations, resulting in more work than anticipated. The reprint drive is number one on the list. It also gives out a number of 110,000 book orders from the drive.

[theangelJean]

Well, that article alone would explain the tweet Rich got from @wesdelval. Which makes me wonder if the interview has actually been published yet. Maybe it hasn't.

[The Giant]

That's the image I provided to run with the interview, so it looks like the interview got scrapped and only that short quote survived.

[theangelJean]

Well, that article alone would explain the tweet Rich got from @wesdelval. Which makes me wonder if the interview has actually been published yet. Maybe it hasn't.

Oh, and the article says 110 000 books (I misread the previous post thinking the poster meant there were 110k orders), which makes me wonder if they went through the pledge table and did the calculations ... which would make that a minimum, because it doesn't count people who added books. That's definitely a huge number of books.

[The Giant]

Oh, and the article says 110 000 books (I misread the previous post thinking the poster meant there were 110k orders), which makes me wonder if they went through the pledge table and did the calculations ... which would make that a minimum, because it doesn't count people who added books. That's definitely a huge number of books.

I gave them that number. It's how much we reprinted, not how much we sold through Kickstarter, and it includes 20,000 coloring books.

[The Succubus]

There was one question unresolved after the Kickstarter: Did you mannage to get that shiny new Cintaq in the end?

[The Giant]

There was one question unresolved after the Kickstarter: Did you mannage to get that shiny new Cintaq in the end?

I'm waiting to see how much money is left after everything ships. There have been a lot of cost overruns on postage and printing and such.

[theangelJean]

Gah, I guess when I get the 500 error from the server I should check to see if it's actually gone through rather than using the opportunity to add bits. Now I can't delete either of them cos Rich has replied to both :P


That's the image I provided to run with the interview, so it looks like the interview got scrapped and only that short quote survived.

And here I thought I recognised the quote as being from one of the earlier Kickstarter updates, and figured they'd just done their homework. (It's in the 5 things in update 35, but it's such a heartfelt sentiment that I don't blame Rich for using the same phrase for it twice. Not all the things you say to journalists need to be original, and most aren't.)

Oh well, I guess that journalists do interview a lot of people and don't always publish the full interview. I hope they didn't actually promise to publish it in full, or if they did, that they'll make good on that in the future...

[The Giant]

CNBC did a roundup of the Top Ten Kickstarters ever, and I'm still in there (until next week, probably): Link (http://www.cnbc.com/id/48725154/page/2/)

Also, Bloomberg Businessweek (http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-08-17/kickstarter-projects-generate-millions-of-dollars). The parts where they quote me are just rehashes from other interviews I've done—I never talked to them—so I'm putting it under "Articles" not "Interviews."

[Lossoth]

I'm kind of new here, having finished the archive only a week ago. But I noticed that on Saturday night's ep of Doctor Who, "The Power of Three", one of the Doctor's hearts stops. And when he gets it going again, he shouts that he's "BACK IN THE GAME!". Possible shout-out to OOTS?

[ti'esar]

I reeeeeeeaaaaaaalllly doubt it.

[Shale]

Nooooooooooo, that's just a common saying.

[Drakeburn]

Not really a shout - out to OOTS at all. People use that when coming out of retirement, recovered from an injury, etc.

[The Giant]

A pair of related articles on CNN Money today:

9 Reasons Kickstarter Projects Ship Late: (http://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2012/12/18/kickstarter-ship-late/index.html) I'm quoted under #7 (http://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2012/12/18/kickstarter-ship-late/7.html), and #9 (http://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2012/12/18/kickstarter-ship-late/9.html) is pretty much all about my thumb.

Also, Why 84% of Kickstarter's top projects shipped late (http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/18/technology/innovation/kickstarter-ship-delay/): While I'm not mentioned in the article, the accompanying interactive graphic (http://money.cnn.com/interactive/technology/kickstarter-projects-shipping/?iid=EL) rates the lateness of the 50 biggest KS moneymakers. f you click on my box, you can see some more quotes from me. I'm in the "slightly tardy" category, mostly because the reprints themselves have shipped, even if the digital goods that were promised haven't. Though I think the writer gave me too much credit on the delivery; she has me listed as fulfilling in May, when I told her we started fulfilling in May.

[Vectner]

It's ok that you are "slightly tardy". But if it happens again you will be retardy and we wouldn't want that would we?

[Dr. Gamera]

Came across an offhand reference to the Order of the Stick at gamona.de, in an article about a Kickstarter project that missed its funding goal by $28.00. My German isn't good enough to decide if the characterization of Rich Burlew as an "unbekannte Designer" (unknown designer?) is accurate, though.
http://www.gamona.de/games/internet,kickstarter-projekt-verfehlt-ziel-um-28-dollar:news,2194164.html
(Please note that gamona.de appears to conform to German standards of what's SFW, which are significantly looser than NSFW standards in the USA.)

Rich and The Most Famous Thumb in Webcomics are also mentioned in this article on Forbes.com:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/suwcharmananderson/2012/11/30/kickstarter-dream-maker-or-promise-breaker/

[Zar Peter]

Came across an offhand reference to the Order of the Stick at gamona.de, in an article about a Kickstarter project that missed its funding goal by $28.00. My German isn't good enough to decide if the characterization of Rich Burlew as an "unbekannte Designer" (unknown designer?) is accurate, though.
http://www.gamona.de/games/internet,kickstarter-projekt-verfehlt-ziel-um-28-dollar:news,2194164.html
(Please note that gamona.de appears to conform to German standards of what's SFW, which are significantly looser than NSFW standards in the USA.)

Rich and The Most Famous Thumb in Webcomics are also mentioned in this article on Forbes.com:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/suwcharmananderson/2012/11/30/kickstarter-dream-maker-or-promise-breaker/

Well, they are talking in the article about designers whose Kickstarter failed so Rich is listed under unknown desinger who was successful (although they mention that it might be because he writes in the well known DnD universe).

I wouldn't expect him in the designer categorie, though, more under author or drawer.

[JCarter426]

On the Origin of PCs can be seen in one of the slides for Kickstarter's Best of 2012 (http://www.kickstarter.com/year/2012).

[Dr. Gamera]

Gygax Magazine wrote a contributor spotlight about Rich Burlew in this Facebook post (https://www.facebook.com/GygaxMagazine/posts/368326969932297).

[Sylesstra]

I don't know if this is where I should put this but it looks like OOTS is in a contest on ComicM!x's march madness tournament. I usually am just a lurker but I thought everyone would like to go over and support it.

http://www.comicmix.com/mix-march-madness-webcomics-tournament/2013/03/14/cast-your-vote-in-round-3-of-the-mix-march-madness-2013-webcomics-tournament/

[Nimrod's Son]

I don't know if this is where I should put this but it looks like OOTS is in a contest on ComicM!x's march madness tournament. I usually am just a lurker but I thought everyone would like to go over and support it.
Rich has asked people not to vote for OotS on comic websites. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8523685&postcount=13)

[B. Dandelion]

Rich has asked people not to vote for OotS on comic websites. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8523685&postcount=13)

I remember when this came up last year I wasn't sure whether this quote should be applicable to the ComicMix tournament. (It's not really a top webcomics list... it's just a yearly contest thing.) On the other hand, when I remember how that ComicMix tournament ultimately went down, I recall having come to the conclusion that staying away had been the better advice in any case. The contest should have been a fun way to vote for your favorites and get exposed to some new comics. People took it extremely seriously, bashed the competition relentlessly, there were allegations of cheating, and one confrontation in particular got absolutely hideous and exploded way beyond the boundaries of the original boards. I wound up having a lowered opinion of several comics based on some of the shenanigans that went down during that ridiculous contest, some I hadn't read and some I had. It looks like they have more stringent policies in place this time around, but still, it hardly seems worth it.

On their board I can read that the author of last year's winner, Gunnerkrigg Court, specifically asked not to be in the contest this year because of last year's terribleness. I wonder if Thunt from Goblins did the same, I don't think it's on the list.

[Procyonpi]

Came across an offhand reference to the Order of the Stick at gamona.de, in an article about a Kickstarter project that missed its funding goal by $28.00. My German isn't good enough to decide if the characterization of Rich Burlew as an "unbekannte Designer" (unknown designer?) is accurate, though.
http://www.gamona.de/games/internet,kickstarter-projekt-verfehlt-ziel-um-28-dollar:news,2194164.html
(Please note that gamona.de appears to conform to German standards of what's SFW, which are significantly looser than NSFW standards in the USA.)

Rich and The Most Famous Thumb in Webcomics are also mentioned in this article on Forbes.com:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/suwcharmananderson/2012/11/30/kickstarter-dream-maker-or-promise-breaker/

I feel like if I were that close to my funding goal, I'd pledge to my own project.

[Davis8488]

On their board I can read that the author of last year's winner, Gunnerkrigg Court, specifically asked not to be in the contest this year because of last year's terribleness. I wonder if Thunt from Goblins did the same, I don't think it's on the list.

The Goblins boards have been lost and reborn recently, but I remember Thunt expressing a desire not to be in that event before the crash.

[t209]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaEV6ae2Zjc
Guess who got on the youtube page?

[Rogar Demonblud]

Do references in other webcomics (http://darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0803.html) count?

[ubertook]

OOTS featured in article about webcomics in April edition of The Ryder (http://theryder.com/), an arts and popular culture magazine in Bloomington, IN. This edition is not yet available on-line, but should be in a few weeks.

[The Doctor]

I have started a 'Countdown to Gen Con' page on facebook. To bridge that gap for those who can't wait.
Every day, I plan to release a 'Countdown to Gen Con' card game card.

So far for the intro, now the on-topic bit:

The Order of the Stick makes the first Countdown to Gen Con card : #100 (we are counting down to 0).

To see the card, and to like, dislike, comment, or otherwise participate, visit :
https://www.facebook.com/CountdownToGenCon

[The Doctor]

As noted above, I made an OOTS card for my Countdown to Gen Con project on facebook.

See for the card : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=494721367262590

When I placed it online I had not considered that I should have asked Rich permission to use the artwork for the card. I should possibly have pulled it offline then, but I was reluctant to do so as I had only just started my project and hoped to yet obtain permission.

Instead, I immediately sent a message to Rich (using the site's contact form) to ask for permission to keep it online, with the intent to replace the art (i.e. with a suggested allowed image, or a photograph of my OotS books) or replace the card (with another webcomic) if permission is not given.

Obviously my project's start was rather clumsy and I sincerely apologize for using the art without obtaining permission first. I hope people can look past the slight (including that I so far kept the card online).
The upside of this is that I have, since then, asked permission for all cases where art, photograps by others, or a personal portrait was used in my project.

I hope a post here can increase my chances to obtain a (hopefully positive) answer, to which I will react immediately. If I don't receive a reaction before the countdown ends, I will replace the art on the card at the end of the run.

Sincerely,

Pierre van Rooden

[The Doctor]

After some consideration, I have decided to not await the end of the countdown.
It is not all that likely that I will receive permission to use the art, so it seems proper to not continue to use it. I have instead opted to include a photograph of my OotS collection, as here:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=519860531415340

It's not as cool as an actual OotS image, but a bit more illustrative than my 'plan C' (which was a photograph of crayons). I also added Rich's copyright to the card.

I hope this falls within fair use and that it satisfies any requirements for copyright.

Apologies to everyone, especially Rich, for the earlier infraction.

[Armitage]

Businessinsider has a list of the 13 most successfull Kickstarter projects (actually: the top Kickstarter from each of the 13 categories), including the OoTS Reprint Drive: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-highest-funded-kickstarters-2013-7

[Shale]

Not a Kickstarter thing but a media thing: Read This Comic: Rich Burlew's "Order Of The Stick" (http://comicsalliance.com/order-of-the-stick-rich-burlew-review/)

[The Giant]

Added to the first page. One of the only actual analyses of the story that I've ever seen from professional media.

[Mighty]

Added to the first page. One of the only actual analyses of the story that I've ever seen from professional media.

Yup, that was a good read :smallsmile:

[Darmarc]

There was the big thing on facebook aswell.

[Comic Strip Cri]

I run a web series called the Punchline, and The Order of the Stick was the subject of my most recent episode! Check it out, check out the rest of the series if you like this episode, and does somebody know of a way to send this to The Giant himself? I'd like to think he'd enjoy it.

http://blip.tv/comicstripcritic/the-order-of-the-stick-6722126

[ThatNickGuy]

I run a web series called the Punchline, and The Order of the Stick was the subject of my most recent episode! Check it out, check out the rest of the series if you like this episode, and does somebody know of a way to send this to The Giant himself? I'd like to think he'd enjoy it.

http://blip.tv/comicstripcritic/the-order-of-the-stick-6722126

That was quite good! Though I think you relied a little too much on the video clips, like the overly long examples of punsters in movies (Bond, Mr. Freeze). Other than that, there's some fantastic, insightful commentary. Well done, sir.

[Codex]

I mostly agree with the guy above me. You had allot of good commentary, that pretty much sums up my feelings for the comic. I award your review the Seal of Awesome. (can I do that?)

[hagnat]

i was reading a lil bit about Minecraft's history, and i found this gem


The awesome but insane people in #tigirc helped me come up with a title for this game, and it’s Minecraft: Order of the Stone.

Minecraft because it’s a good name. Order of the Stone because it sounds like Order of the Stick, one of the best things on the internet.
http://notch.tumblr.com/post/107676487/minecraft-order-of-the-stone

does this counts as Oots in the Media ? was this know before ?
sometimes i miss a search button in this forum :/

[Loreweaver15]

Huh, Notch is a fan. Cool!

[Codex]

Huh, Notch is a fan. Cool!

THIS IS A DAY THAT SHALL BE LONG REMEMBERED!

[Czhorat]

Not much new here to OOTS fans, but in my other life as the Pixel and Ink-Stained Wretch I posted a brief appreciation of Rich Burlew's ongoing masterwork:

http://czhorat.blogspot.com/2014/03/blaming-cerebus-look-at-order-of-stick.html

[Terrador]

The nonproductive.com links are broken; they updated their links so that the date is no longer in them. Otherwise, the links are the same. Cheers!

[King of Nowhere]

In brandon sanderson's steelheart (http://brandonsanderson.com/steelheart-prologue/) there is at some point a reference of a "durkon's paradox" (which is a sort of occam's razor for physics-defying superpowers). Not 100% sure if it is a reference to oots, but what would be the chances of picking that name at random? also, according to tvtropes it is a reference.

[Gnome Alone]

I'd be a bit surprised if Brandon Sanderson wasn't an OOTS fan, too. Seems right up his alley. I mean, clever takes on fantasy tropes all around, right? I know Pat Rothfuss is a fan, which always warms the cockles of that thing I call a heart.

[Reddish Mage]

In brandon sanderson's steelheart (http://brandonsanderson.com/steelheart-prologue/) there is at some point a reference of a "durkon's paradox" (which is a sort of occam's razor for physics-defying superpowers). Not 100% sure if it is a reference to oots, but what would be the chances of picking that name at random? also, according to tvtropes it is a reference.

I don't know haven't Durkon's powers broken the laws of physics way more than necessary (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0352.html)?

[Joerg]

There's a two-page article about OotS in the latest issue of the free German magazine "Zauberwelten". Its review fits better to the early strips than to the later ones.

You can also order the magazine online for 2,50 € here ("http://www.zauberfeder-shop.de/5311499de00d58a0a/5311499de00d92925/531149a3420dc2d19.html), but at least that article is probably not worth the money.

[Comic Strip Cri]

Sooooooooo guess what made it into my top three webcomics of 2014? Check it out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7CCvV-scvg

[Dr. Gamera]

AnimeSensei posted this in its own thread, but it also belongs here: OOTS in Guinness World Records 2015.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/2015/preview/files/assets/basic-html/page16.html

[infinityman]

The new "LARPs" webseries on YouTube features several OotS books prominently displayed in the background in episode 1, 1:11-1:17: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QixQzsVdsxk

[Eldpollard]

I just watched the latest (and possibly last) episode of Community S06E13. At 12:43 (http://i.imgur.com/jznlNqp.jpg) I'm convinced that's The Order of the Stick. I don't have a clue which strip number though though. The character in the bottom right really looks like Vaarsuvius.

[Porthos]

I just watched the latest (and possibly last) episode of Community S06E13. At 12:43 (http://i.imgur.com/jznlNqp.jpg) I'm convinced that's The Order of the Stick. I don't have a clue which strip number though though. The character in the bottom right really looks like Vaarsuvius.

*zooms up super close*

Sorry, not seeing it. Speech color ballons are all wrong. And the background doesn't look like anything I've seen in the strip.

Would have been nice, but I think this is just something with a red and puprle color scheme.

I mean, I can see why you'd think it was, since at a distance it sorta looks like V. But on closer examination, I think this is a false positive:

http://i.imgur.com/8W1Vimx.png

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EDITED:::

Went to the episode over at Yahoo and screencaptured a portion of the HD feed:

http://i.imgur.com/wEtffzO.png

It looses a bit on the screencapture, but it clearly says "RAINFOREST" in some font (not a font expert, so not sure which) as you look at the pic and expand it 2x or so and is absolutely no OOTS scene I've ever seen. :smallsmile:

EDIT THE SECOND::: There is also some large green monster entering from the far left side and a small flying person between the two, perhaps looking over their shoulder. Seems to have dark purple hair and slightly different toned skin. Doesn't look like Rich's style at all, either.

So, some sort of cartoon, yes. But not OOTS, I'm afraid. :smallsmile:

[Lissou]

I'm a bit late to the party since it's already been disproven, but I'd also like to point out that the balloons look like round-cornered rectangles, not ellipses, even without zooming in. So they're both the wrong colour and the wrong shape.

[hagnat]

i was reading a lil bit about Minecraft's history, and i found this gem


The awesome but insane people in #tigirc helped me come up with a title for this game, and it’s Minecraft: Order of the Stone.

Minecraft because it’s a good name. Order of the Stone because it sounds like Order of the Stick, one of the best things on the internet.
http://notch.tumblr.com/post/107676487/minecraft-order-of-the-stone

does this counts as Oots in the Media ? was this know before ?
sometimes i miss a search button in this forum :/

so, just updating this bit here... Minecraft Story Mode will feature a group called 'Order of the Stone'
seems like they didn't forget about their origins, heh ?

[8BitNinja]

8 Bit Theatre made a refrence, but i forgot what comic strip it was

[Peelee]

8 Bit Theatre made a refrence, but i forgot what comic strip it was

I don't remember a reference, though admittedly I didn't know about Order of the Stick while 8BT was going on. Are you sure it wasn't the guest strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/GuestStrips.html) that the Giant drew?

[8BitNinja]

I don't remember a reference, though admittedly I didn't know about Order of the Stick while 8BT was going on. Are you sure it wasn't the guest strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/GuestStrips.html) that the Giant drew?

I meant the guest strip, but I don't remember when I read it, but I know I finished it about 6 months before reading oots

[Mister Loorg]

The Dark Dungeons movie made a reference to OotS, which can be seen in Jontron's new video.

https://youtu.be/subQrEPKytA?t=13m10s

[Fitzclowningham]

I don't know if this is the right place for this, but the latest Erfworld (http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/213) seems to have a shout-out to OotS: "Bottom line, it's just not that hard to fly through a mountain pass, even if it's full of giants."

[acheter]

Somehow I don't think that will happen.

[martianmister]

I don't know if this is the right place for this, but the latest Erfworld (http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/213) seems to have a shout-out to OotS: "Bottom line, it's just not that hard to fly through a mountain pass, even if it's full of giants."

What happened toErfworld, is it an Webnovel now?

[martianmister]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOLzS2MmkzQ&t=0m53s

OotS is one of the RPG webcomics that is referenced.

[h0m3st4r]

I used to do a fandub of OOTS. It's currently on hiatus, though I am looking to restart it once I settle down. Unfortunately, I can't post it here because I haven't posted enough.

EDIT Now, I can post links. Yay.

https://youtu.be/7VkNzC1jMSY

[Nilan8888]

I love the Overly Sarcastic Productions people.

I loved them even more when I saw this:

https://youtu.be/H_7BHQdyrzg?t=451

[Brast]

As a long time lurker, I got to finally show some praise to the Giant:
Oblivion for all, or condemn self and others to oblivion, in exchange for giving other the chance for heaven and hell. Talk about high sticks.
Un aplauzo pal asadero carajo! Like fine steak, yes.

[F.Harr]

WAAAAAAA!

I hope Belkar got it done enough.

[Precure]

Not sure if reference or plagiarism.

https://youtu.be/4tOFGgfFYTg

[Argis13]

Starting at about 2:24, Bart Carol references OOTS comic # 12 in the WOTC podcast "Dragon Talk," episode title "Kids and Stories," released 2015/07/24.

[ziproot]

The American Go Association has mentioned Order of the Stick twice:
https://www.usgo.org/news/2020/05/go-spotting-the-order-of-the-stick-1203/
https://www.usgo.org/news/2016/07/go-spotting-order-of-the-stick-sandra-and-woo-comics/

EDIT: The links are dead already? Here are wayback machine links:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200928052703/https://www.usgo.org/news/2020/05/go-spotting-the-order-of-the-stick-1203/
https://web.archive.org/web/20191205054951/https://www.usgo.org/news/2016/07/go-spotting-order-of-the-stick-sandra-and-woo-comics/

[arimareiji]

I don't remember a reference, though admittedly I didn't know about Order of the Stick while 8BT was going on. Are you sure it wasn't the guest strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/GuestStrips.html) that the Giant drew?

Thank you for this link, I was especially fond of the be-- err, the multi-eyed trademarked monster that tried to settle the question of V's gender by sneaking a peek while V was bathing.

[zql]

i was reading a lil bit about Minecraft's history, and i found this gem


http://notch.tumblr.com/post/107676487/minecraft-order-of-the-stone

does this counts as Oots in the Media ? was this know before ?
sometimes i miss a search button in this forum :/

He has been for a long time! One of the early tiny messages in the main screen was "Haley loves Elan"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTQZCKUUsAAbBXX.jpg

[arimareiji]

Whaddya know... life imitates art? Acid-breathing sharks. XD

https://twitter.com/MetroUK/status/1529430447268274177

https://i.imgur.com/CFkVsdu.png

[Mic_128]

Comparing player character General Hux with Xykon in memnarch's commentary.

https://darthsanddroids.net/episodes/2171.html

[Trixie_One]

Whole bunch of people online are seeing a pivotal OOTS character moment also occuring in the most recent Star Trek: Picard.

[Precure]

Data is more quick to notice it.

[KorvinStarmast]

Data is more quick to notice it. That's because he's a nerd that nobody likes (https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1040.html).