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Mystify
2012-02-25, 07:33 AM
Is their any way to cast personal spells on other people? I don't care how cheesy or TO it is, I just wonder if there is any loophole in the system to accomplish it. The only thing I can think of is sharing spells with your animal companion/familiar, but thats not another person, that's a class feature.
IIRC the Spellguard of Silverymoon can do that, with some limitations. It's a faerun PrC.
kulosle
2012-02-25, 07:49 AM
Doesn't the meta magic feat called reach spell do this?
Doesn't the meta magic feat called reach spell do this?
Unfortunately not, it makes touch spells into ranged ones.
kulosle
2012-02-25, 08:00 AM
Well I know the war weaver can do it. But it may not be exactly what your looking for.
hymer
2012-02-25, 08:06 AM
Master Specialist (CM p. 70) abjurers can cast personal abjuration spells on others three times a day with their major school esoterica.
Mystify
2012-02-25, 08:09 AM
Well I know the war weaver can do it. But it may not be exactly what your looking for.
War weavers explicitly cannot.
"In addition, spells with a range of personal cannot be cast through an eldritch
tapestry."
Ideally the method would involve changing the range of the spell, so they could be castable through the tapestry.
kulosle
2012-02-25, 08:25 AM
Wow two fumbles in a row, sorry about that, guess I should probably stop trying to help at 5am. I do know there is another way that hasn't been mentioned yet I just can't seem to remember.
UndeadCleric
2012-02-25, 08:46 AM
I seem to remember something involving the feat "Ocular spell (http://dndtools.eu/feats/lords-of-madness--72/ocular-spell--2079/)". I know it says that personal spells cant be affected but thats my memory. Hmmm.
Psyren
2012-02-25, 08:50 AM
Sangehirns and True Healer Egoists can cast manifest some personal healing spells by touch. Pathfinder Egoists can manifest any personal psychometabolism power on others.
Wow two fumbles in a row, sorry about that, guess I should probably stop trying to help at 5am. I do know there is another way that hasn't been mentioned yet I just can't seem to remember.
Easily done! :smallbiggrin:
Fitz10019
2012-02-25, 08:53 AM
A ring of spell storing could allow a caster to do this, as a multi-step process (DMG p.233).
1. Caster dons ring.
2. Caster adds spell with range(personal) to ring.
3. Caster doffs ring.
4. Other character dons ring.
5. Other character casts stored range(personal) spell on himself.
kulosle
2012-02-25, 09:06 AM
This doesn't actually change the range though. So it can't be put into the tapestry.
Aeryr
2012-02-25, 10:14 AM
IIRC the Spellguard of Silverymoon can do that, with some limitations. It's a faerun PrC.
Limitations that can get overdone with the magic from the land feat (so every buff that you use heals) or the ACF of the favored soul.
Human Favored Soul 4/Church Inquisitor 1/Exalted Arcanist 1/War Weaver 5 Spellguard of Silverymoon 4/Sacred Exorcist 1/Incantatrix 4
Is nasty (cheesing with magical training and precocious aprentice and getting into exalted arcanist to actually have arcane spells)
jackattack
2012-02-25, 10:23 AM
Hand the target a scroll or potion of whatever.
If your DM allows it, you might be able to splash someone with a potion if they aren't willing to drink it.
Cruiser1
2012-02-25, 10:31 AM
Is their any way to cast personal spells on other people?
In addition to the Share Spells familiar/animal companion class feature and the Ring of Spell Sharing magic item (SRD) already mentioned, you can:
Put the spell you want to give into a casting of Energy Transformation Field (SC), which has no limitations on the spell that can be put into it.
Buy a lesser or greater Glyph Seal magic item (MIC), and put the spell in it.
Buy Bracelets of Spell Sharing magic item (DMG2), allowing you to cast on your and a partner at the same time.
Cast Shapechange and turn into a Symbiont and latch onto your target, so spells you cast are shared with them.
Mystify
2012-02-25, 10:34 AM
Cast Shapechange and turn into a Symbiont and latch onto your target, so spells you cast are shared with them.
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Can that apply to the shapechange spell itself?
What I am really aiming for is the ability to give the entire party shapeshift, though things that don't actually lead to this are interesting too.
Cieyrin
2012-02-25, 10:53 AM
Hand the target a scroll or potion of whatever.
If your DM allows it, you might be able to splash someone with a potion if they aren't willing to drink it.
Personal spells can't be made into potions and the likelihood of the entire party having UMD to use a scroll are slim to none, since I don't think the party in question is a group of wizards or some such.
Darrin
2012-02-25, 03:31 PM
Personal spells can't be made into potions and the likelihood of the entire party having UMD to use a scroll are slim to none, since I don't think the party in question is a group of wizards or some such.
Which is why you use Skull Talismans (Frostburn).
Glyph Seals (MIC) would also work, as mentioned by Cruiser1. Hadn't heard of the symbiont trick before... very clever.
gallagher
2012-02-25, 04:17 PM
Which is why you use Skull Talismans (Frostburn).
Glyph Seals (MIC) would also work, as mentioned by Cruiser1. Hadn't heard of the symbiont trick before... very clever.
you know, i tend to only use skull talismans as fun traps. have a big room littered with skulls. knock one off of a high shelf, or step on one, and BOOM GOES A FIREBALL
Laniius
2012-02-25, 05:29 PM
The alchemist in pathfinder can make his extracts into infusions that others can use, this includes personal spells.
PlzBreakMyCmpAn
2012-02-26, 03:17 PM
Wow everyone missed the most straightforward PrC way via O
Curmudgeon
2012-02-26, 03:44 PM
PrC way via O
O? O what? While this forum is about games, it's not about crossword puzzle clues. :smallconfused:
Wow everyone missed the most straightforward PrC way via O
Seems like you missed it too, whatever it was. :smallamused:
Dusk Eclipse
2012-02-26, 04:05 PM
Check the team solars tread by douglas (I think), it is extreme optimization and all the party is going around in Solar shape, I am pretty sure they used Spellguard of Silvery moon.
Check the team solars tread by douglas (I think), it is extreme optimization and all the party is going around in Solar shape, I am pretty sure they used Spellguard of Silvery moon; but I am not sure.
If I recall correctly they also used symbionts.
Wookie-ranger
2012-02-26, 04:24 PM
ring of spell storing is my personal favorite. it is simple and it was meant to work in exactly that way; no DM can argue against it.
I didn't read that one here yet:
Magic Jar
1. posses one person,
2. cast spell on 'yourself'
3. jump into next person
4. cast spell on 'yourself'
5. goto 3
6. ???
7. Profit
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