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Stille_Nacht
2012-03-03, 09:29 AM
assuming he is a level 17 cleric, how did Redcloak summon all those creatures?

(large elemental, 7 ?barbarazu, 2 large demons, implosion)

does summoning last 2 days or something and he summoned them all the previous day?

RMS Oceanic
2012-03-03, 09:41 AM
Spells like Planar Ally last days, so it's possible to do all your summonings the day before you need them, and go into the battle with a full compliment of spells.

AlaskaOOTSFan
2012-03-03, 10:04 AM
Scrolls scrolls, everywhere a scroll.....

Spacewolf
2012-03-03, 10:05 AM
Planar Ally the two big ones they summon in the little ones that leaves a summon elemental for the bigger guy

D&D5eplayer
2012-03-03, 10:20 AM
Planar Ally, Lesser

Conjuration (Calling) [see text]



Level:

Clr 4



Components:

V, S, DF, XP



Casting Time:

10 minutes



Range:

Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)



Effect:

One called elemental or outsider of 6 HD or less



Duration:

Instantaneous



Saving Throw:

None



Spell Resistance:

No


By casting this spell, you request your deity to send you an elemental or outsider (of 6 HD or less) of the deity’s choice. If you serve no particular deity, the spell is a general plea answered by a creature sharing your philosophical alignment. If you know an individual creature’s name, you may request that individual by speaking the name during the spell (though you might get a different creature anyway).

You may ask the creature to perform one task in exchange for a payment from you. Tasks might range from the simple to the complex. You must be able to communicate with the creature called in order to bargain for its services.

The creature called requires a payment for its services. This payment can take a variety of forms, from donating gold or magic items to an allied temple, to a gift given directly to the creature, to some other action on your part that matches the creature’s alignment and goals. Regardless, this payment must be made before the creature agrees to perform any services. The bargaining takes at least 1 round, so any actions by the creature begin in the round after it arrives.

A task taking up to 1 minute per caster level requires a payment of 100 gp per HD of the creature called. For a task taking up to 1 hour per caster level, the creature requires a payment of 500 gp per HD. A long-term task, one requiring up to one day per caster level, requires a payment of 1,000 gp per HD.

A nonhazardous task requires only half the indicated payment, while an especially hazardous task might require a greater gift. Few if any creatures will accept a task that seems suicidal (remember, a called creature actually dies when it is killed, unlike a summoned creature). However, if the task is strongly aligned with the creature’s ethos, it may halve or even waive the payment.

At the end of its task, or when the duration bargained for expires, the creature returns to its home plane (after reporting back to you, if appropriate and possible).

Note: When you use a calling spell that calls an air, chaotic, earth, evil, fire, good, lawful, or water creature, it is a spell of that type.

XP Cost

100 XP.


so he could have gotten 17 days of service, or say "Wait till the right moment then help me crush the resstance"

Stille_Nacht
2012-03-03, 11:32 AM
assuming planar ally: greater, is more powerful version, i can see that (im pretty sure bearded devils are 17), i was thinking of summon monster

Douglas
2012-03-03, 12:49 PM
Summon Monster can't get creatures as powerful as the ones Redcloak had, and it also doesn't require paying them. Between the power of the creatures involved and the payment he gave them, it's clear that Redcloak used some number of Planar Ally (and/or the Greater and Lesser versions) spells, and that means if he's willing to pay enough he could have had them waiting around for days or even a week or two.

If you go through and count exactly what he would have needed for the devils shown, though, Redcloak actually has enough spell slots to do it all in one day with plenty left over.

SavageWombat
2012-03-03, 02:08 PM
If you go through and count exactly what he would have needed for the devils shown, though, Redcloak actually has enough spell slots to do it all in one day with plenty left over.

Don't forget that he also had prepared all the spells he cast on the fauxlactery.

Dungeonstone
2012-03-03, 04:07 PM
He used a version of Summon Planar Ally as was indicated by the fact that he was literally handing out payment vouchers after the task was completed.

The spells in question could have been cast several days in advance or from scrolls in order to accomplish this.

Spacewolf
2012-03-04, 12:27 PM
Doesnt really need any scrolls
Planar Ally in two Horned devils they sumon in 1d6 Bearded devils each then Summon Monster IX either from his domain or his level 9 spell slots for the Hezrou? In the tunnel