Daylight savings time

[pendell]

the perfect demotivator (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/422415_339717862747892_244753448911001_964469_1546 049462_n.jpg). Why , yes, it was much like that. And I can't say I liked it at all, really :).

Respectfully,

Brian P.

[STsinderman]

Not really stolen, more moved around a bit :smallwink:

[Elemental]

We don't have daylight savings here.
No governmental authority is going to steal our hours!


Disclaimer: Yes, I know it doesn't work that way, but it's still rather pointless where I live.

[ORione]

My drama class is working on two person scenes now. Yesterday my partner forgot about daylight savings and didn't come. :smallyuk: That was frustrating.

[STsinderman]

We in the UK dont get the change until the 25th of this month.

[factotum]

I wish they'd get rid of it entirely. They have actually tried to change the system before, but keep changing it back when all the "OMGWTFBBQ more kids killed in mornings!" headlines come out--said headlines conveniently ignoring that *fewer* kids died on the roads at the other end of the day, of course!

[noparlpf]

I wish they'd get rid of it entirely. They have actually tried to change the system before, but keep changing it back when all the "OMGWTFBBQ more kids killed in mornings!" headlines come out--said headlines conveniently ignoring that *fewer* kids died on the roads at the other end of the day, of course!

Isn't that more of an argument against driving being legal than against Daylight Saving's Time? Or at least an argument that drivers should have annual tests to make sure they're still safe drivers?

[PersonMan]

Isn't that more of an argument against driving being legal than against Daylight Saving's Time? Or at least an argument that drivers should have annual tests to make sure they're still safe drivers?

Why forgo a perfectly reasonable chance to overreact to something in favor of a logical decision?

Besides, 'DST gone, kids get run over' practically writes itself.

[noparlpf]

"DST" could stand for "Driver Safety Tests". And without those, the kids will still get run over. Daylight Saving's Time won't really save them.

[Telonius]

I don't mind that they borrow an hour from me. I just wish they'd give it back with interest when they return it.

[The Durvin]

DST was invented by Benjamin Franklin; it's supposed to help farmers, somehow or another. The problem is, some people are pretty sure he was joking.

[Traab]

I honestly never understood the point. If we just sprang ahead, or fell back every year, I would assume it was the way we corrected the fact that the universe is a rude ^%#$^%$ that refuses to neatly compartmentalize the revolution around the sun to our convenient round numbers. But going ahead an hour, then going back an hour sounds an awful lot like canceling each other out.

[Tirian]

*Puts a large jar in the thread* Everyone who calls it Daylight Saving*S* Time has to put a quarter in this jar. It's Saving.


DST was invented by Benjamin Franklin; it's supposed to help farmers, somehow or another. The problem is, some people are pretty sure he was joking.

Franklin was kidding about his plans for enforcing his measures, but his point that people would burn fewer candles if they didn't sleep while the sun was shining is beyond dispute. He wasn't joking when he said "Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise." But he didn't suggest Daylight Saving Time; the entire notion of standardized time wouldn't exist until fifty years after his death.

Also, no, farmers have historically hated DST because changing society's schedule twice a year messes up their sun-centered farming schedule. (Although Wikipedia alleges that they've mostly gotten over it these days and aren't the primary source of haters in modern times.)

[noparlpf]

*Puts a large jar in the thread* Everyone who calls it Daylight Saving*S* Time has to put a quarter in this jar. It's Saving.

*checks Wikipedia*
So it is.
*gives digital quarter for previous transgression*

[Zherog]

Personally, I love DST. It adds sunlight to the end of my day. I leave work around 6:30pm; DST gives me time to get home while there's still daylight so I can go outside to play with my kids - basketball and soccer are common, but just going for a walk happens frequently too.

[Telonius]

*Puts a large jar in the thread* Everyone who calls it Daylight Saving*S* Time has to put a quarter in this jar. It's Saving.


Using my awesome power of being some random guy on the internet, I declare that "Daylight Savings Time" is the plural. You're talking about more than one instance of saving, and the status of that hour is dangerous enough to the space-time continuum without making time plural.

[pendell]

DST was invented by Benjamin Franklin; it's supposed to help farmers, somehow or another. The problem is, some people are pretty sure he was joking.

Benjamin Franklin wasn't a farmer. I'm told that it doesn't help at all because cows and chickens don't read clocks. A farmer's day is scheduled around what his animals do, not what the clock does, so changing the clock twice a year is just an annoyance.

Heck , for that matter farmers lived for thousands of years without clocks at all and were happy. It wasn't until railroads were invented that there was such a thing as standardized time, or a reason for clocks to by synchronized with each other. With railroads it's important because , if you're driving a train across an intersection at 5:15 on a foggy day, it is VERY IMPORTANT to know that another train is scheduled to run through at 5:30 and that the two of your clocks agree. But before that, there was no need for standardized time.

Respectfully,

Brian P.

[factotum]

Personally, I love DST. It adds sunlight to the end of my day.

Surely just moving the clocks forward an hour and then LEAVING them there would have the same effect, and wouldn't require all this messy fiddling around twice a year?

[Elder Tsofu]

Surely just moving the clocks forward an hour and then LEAVING them there would have the same effect, and wouldn't require all this messy fiddling around twice a year?

I like having some darkness during summer nights thank you very much. :-)

[Erloas]

I think part of the argument is lost on people that live in certain places. The difference between the length of daylight during a day is very significant between the equator and as you move towards the poles. If your length of daylight doesn't change that much it doesn't matter much.

[Zherog]

Surely just moving the clocks forward an hour and then LEAVING them there would have the same effect, and wouldn't require all this messy fiddling around twice a year?

Indeed. Though I don't quite define "spring forward, fall back" as "messy."

[pffh]

There are some crazy people here that want us to take up daylight saving time because everyone else is using it so why wouldn't it be good for us. Never mind the fact that we have 24 hours of sun in the summer and only couple of hours in the winter so it wouldn't actually change how much light or darkness we get in the winter or summer.

[Traab]

Indeed. Though I don't quite define "spring forward, fall back" as "messy."

Its messy when you have a dozen clocks in the house that dont self correct. Its annoying as hell to drag a step ladder to 3 different rooms to be able to reach all the clocks near the ceiling.

[JCarter426]

Using my awesome power of being some random guy on the internet, I declare that "Daylight Savings Time" is the plural. You're talking about more than one instance of saving, and the status of that hour is dangerous enough to the space-time continuum without making time plural.
No, no. It's not like bank savings. It's a participle. Daylight Saving Time is the time to save daylight, just like Skull Crushing Time is the time to crush skulls, and lunchtime is the time for lunch.

And DST is evil. It's a pain to keep up, it's been proven to waste energy in some cases, and it messes up people with sleeping disorders.

[Traab]

No, no. It's not like bank savings. It's a participle. Daylight Saving Time is the time to save daylight, just like Skull Crushing Time is the time to crush skulls, and lunchtime is the time for lunch.

And DST is evil. It's a pain to keep up, it's been proven to waste energy in some cases, and it messes up people with sleeping disorders.

Yeah, the plural to daylight saving time is daylight saving times! Now accept my reality gracefully or I shall debate you some more!

[Zherog]

Its messy when you have a dozen clocks in the house that dont self correct. Its annoying as hell to drag a step ladder to 3 different rooms to be able to reach all the clocks near the ceiling.

I have... *starts counting* ...eight clocks that don't self correct. Nine if you count the digital pedometer that I wear. *shrug* I just never found it to be all the messy or troublesome.

[H Birchgrove]

There are some crazy people here that want us to take up daylight saving time because everyone else is using it so why wouldn't it be good for us. Never mind the fact that we have 24 hours of sun in the summer and only couple of hours in the winter so it wouldn't actually change how much light or darkness we get in the winter or summer.

Do you live on Svalbard or Greenland? :smallconfused: :smalltongue:

[factotum]

I like having some darkness during summer nights thank you very much. :-)

Er, but it's during the summer that the clocks are forward an hour anyway, so having them an hour forward all year round would have no effect in summer--it would only affect the winter. :smallconfused:

[Feytalist]

Eh. In Summer, when I get up for work, it's already light. In Winter, it's still dark. Don't see why it's necessary to change that. It's not as if we're still dependent on daylight to go about our business these days.

I was surprised to learn that my country used to implement DST. Guess some smart soul back in the day scrapped it. Good for him.

[Knaight]

I honestly never understood the point. If we just sprang ahead, or fell back every year, I would assume it was the way we corrected the fact that the universe is a rude ^%#$^%$ that refuses to neatly compartmentalize the revolution around the sun to our convenient round numbers. But going ahead an hour, then going back an hour sounds an awful lot like canceling each other out.

We have a correction mechanism, it's called leap day.

[Rawhide]

Daylight Savings Time: Does it actually help? (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/12/120309-daylight-savings-time-2012-what-time-is-it-spring-forward-nation/?source=hp_dl1_news_daylight_saving20120310)

Spoiler alert: No.

[pffh]

Do you live on Svalbard or Greenland? :smallconfused: :smalltongue:

I come from the land of the ice and snow, from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow. Iceland

[Winter_Wolf]

I wish the US would just repeal DST across the whole country. Not all states even bother with it, and some states (Indiana) don't even enforce it for the whole state, only part of it. My aunt's kids lived in one time zone and went to school in another because they lived one county over.

I grew up in Alaska. DST is 100% meaningless when you have nights that last for months and days that last for months. About the biggest influence of it on my life has been the constant annoyance of having to remember what/if there's a change in the number of hours' difference from where I am and the long distance calls I'm making.