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al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-19, 02:55 PM
This is the OOC thread for the Wheel of Time game.

{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
Tyler|Lukas Maraven (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380342)|Tar Valoner/Wilder|
Holice|Berin Huhan (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381358)|Midlander/Woodsman
Neo_Leviathan|Leilanna al'Kay|Midlander Wilder (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=382525)
NPC Currently|Anyanna Sharif (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380458)|Domani (Bandar Eban)/Initiate|
[/table]

Rules:
-Countering weaves: As Prophecies of the Dragon.
-Cutting weaves as UtDB.
-Shield: Revised version no. 2, but is an opposed Power-check, not concentration, and there is no opportunity to counter shield.
-Noble revised class UtDB.
-Bend Dream and Dreamjump are combined into one feat- Improved Dreamwalk.
-Simultaneous Casting Feat (UtDB) approved. Only need to take it once and then cast as many weaves as you can from Multiweave feat (still limited to 1/3 caster level).
-Measuring the Power: As Prophecies of the Dragon, but using Caster level + 2 spellcasting stat modifiers. (So Int/Wis for Initiate, Wis/Cha for Wilder)
-Linking as UtDB.


Once everyone has reaffirmed their interest I'll create the IC thread, hoping that will happen in 1-2 days (I'm an optimist at heart).

Edit: And can all channellers put their Power rating (Caster level+ Wis modifier + Int/Cha modifier [class dependant]) in the action points box, so it's easy for me to quickly work out shielding/who stands higher/lower than you.

Edit: IC thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12933031#post12933031)

Starbin
2012-03-19, 03:10 PM
Here!

Thinking
"Speaking"
"Whispering"

{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|[/table]

Will update equipment, Weapon Focus feat, and stats later (hopefully tonight).

tanderson11
2012-03-19, 03:16 PM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
tanderson11|Vayl (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381178)|Tinker/Wilder (Dreamer)
[/table]

"Speech"
"Whispers"
Thoughts

EDIT: Adjusted table.

Indeed It Is
2012-03-19, 04:06 PM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Indeed it Is|Ossipye "Oss" (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=382581)|Ogier Woodsman/Armsman
[/table]

Speech
Thoughts
Whispes

Holice
2012-03-19, 04:09 PM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
tanderson11|Vayl (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381178)|Tinker/Wilder (Dreamer)|
Holice|Berin Huhan (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381358)|Midlander/Woodsman
[/table]

"Speaking"
"Whispering"
Thinking
Dark Green & Pale Green

EDIT: Updated table.

Tylerb7
2012-03-19, 04:10 PM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
tanderson11|Vayl (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381178)|Tinker/Wilder (Dreamer)|
Tyler|Lukas Maraven (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380342)|Tar Valoner/Wilder|
Holice|Berin Huhan (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381358)|Midlander/Woodsman
[/table]

"Talking"
Thinking


edit: tables
edit2: is it ironic that I chose red?

Havelock
2012-03-19, 04:56 PM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
tanderson11|Vayl (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381178)|Tinker/Wilder (Dreamer)|
Tyler|Lukas Maraven (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380342)|Tar Valoner/Wilder|
Holice|Berin Huhan (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381358)|Midlander/Woodsman
Havelock|Ardent Swift (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381074)|Tairen/Wanderer
[/table]

I claim Purple

RavenGirl
2012-03-19, 05:54 PM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
tanderson11|Vayl (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381178)|Tinker/Wilder (Dreamer)|
Tyler|Lukas Maraven (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380342)|Tar Valoner/Wilder|
Holice|Berin Huhan (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381358)|Midlander/Woodsman
Havelock|Ardent Swift (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381074)|Tairen/Wanderer
RavenGirl|Anyanna Sharif (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380458)|Domani (Bandar Eban)/Initiate|
[/table]

"Speech"
"Whisper"
Thought

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-19, 10:03 PM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
tanderson11|Vayl (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381178)|Tinker/Wilder (Dreamer)|
Tyler|Lukas Maraven (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380342)|Tar Valoner/Wilder|
Holice|Berin Huhan (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381358)|Midlander/Woodsman
Havelock|Ardent Swift (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381074)|Tairen/Wanderer
RavenGirl|Anyanna Sharif (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380458)|Domani (Bandar Eban)/Initiate|
Indeed it Is|Forthcoming (null)|Ogier Wanderer/Woodsman
[/table]

ThatQuietGuy
2012-03-20, 04:35 AM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
tanderson11|Vayl (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381178)|Tinker/Wilder (Dreamer)|
Tyler|Lukas Maraven (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380342)|Tar Valoner/Wilder|
Holice|Berin Huhan (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381358)|Midlander/Woodsman
Havelock|Ardent Swift (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381074)|Tairen/Wanderer
RavenGirl|Anyanna Sharif (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380458)|Domani (Bandar Eban)/Initiate|
Indeed it Is|Forthcoming (null)|Ogier Wanderer/Woodsman
ThatQuietGuy|Shyne (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380111)|Arafellin Noble/Woodsman
[/table]

Dark Red Thoughts
"Dark Red Speech"

Also, as per discussion of weapons, I traded one warder's sword and the long sword in for dual short swords. Works better with the rules, and it's probably closer to what Arafellins are supposed to be using. Guess he'll just have to be a blademaster with a tiny sword. He will, at some point, be a Dreamer, as well... except not quite.

Questing Beast
2012-03-20, 12:47 PM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
tanderson11|Vayl (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381178)|Tinker/Wilder (Dreamer)|
Tyler|Lukas Maraven (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380342)|Tar Valoner/Wilder|
Holice|Berin Huhan (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381358)|Midlander/Woodsman
Havelock|Ardent Swift (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381074)|Tairen/Wanderer
RavenGirl|Anyanna Sharif (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380458)|Domani (Bandar Eban)/Initiate|
Indeed it Is|Forthcoming (null)|Ogier Wanderer/Woodsman
ThatQuietGuy|Shyne (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380111)|Arafellin Noble/Woodsman
Questing Beast|Bili Miyr (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380737)|Midlander Wanderer/Algai'd'siswai
[/table]



"Sienna Speech"
"Whisper"
Sienna Thoughts

Indeed It Is
2012-03-20, 02:00 PM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
tanderson11|Vayl (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381178)|Tinker/Wilder (Dreamer)|
Tyler|Lukas Maraven (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380342)|Tar Valoner/Wilder|
Holice|Berin Huhan (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381358)|Midlander/Woodsman
Havelock|Ardent Swift (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381074)|Tairen/Wanderer
RavenGirl|Anyanna Sharif (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380458)|Domani (Bandar Eban)/Initiate|
Indeed it Is|Ossipye "Oss" (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=382581)|Ogier Woodsman/Armsman
ThatQuietGuy|Shyne (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380111)|Arafellin Noble/Woodsman
Questing Beast|Bili Miyr (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380737)|Midlander Wanderer/Algai'd'siswai
[/table]


Still need to do equipment.

Kittenwolf
2012-03-20, 06:24 PM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
tanderson11|Vayl (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381178)|Tinker/Wilder (Dreamer)|
Tyler|Lukas Maraven (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380342)|Tar Valoner/Wilder|
Holice|Berin Huhan (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381358)|Midlander/Woodsman
Havelock|Ardent Swift (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381074)|Tairen/Wanderer
RavenGirl|Anyanna Sharif (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380458)|Domani (Bandar Eban)/Initiate|
Indeed it Is|Ossipye "Oss" (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=382581)|Ogier Woodsman/Armsman
ThatQuietGuy|Shyne (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380111)|Arafellin Noble/Woodsman
Questing Beast|Bili Miyr (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380737)|Midlander Wanderer/Algai'd'siswai
Neo_Leviathan|Leilanna al'Kay|Midlander Wilder (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=382525)
[/table]

Hrm. Purple has been taken, so I'll go with:
"DarkOrchid Speech"
"Whispers"
[Thoughts]



Sheet still being finalised, but I'm getting there :)

Questing Beast
2012-03-20, 08:25 PM
I think Raven already snagged indigo :smalltongue:

Kittenwolf
2012-03-20, 08:39 PM
I think Raven already snagged indigo :smalltongue:

Oops :)
That's... a lot different to what I thought Indigo should look like. Give me a minute....

RavenGirl
2012-03-20, 09:25 PM
Oh no, competition! ;)

Indigo is confusing enough that I've managed to snag it across all of my games, thus saving me endless confusion!

Kittenwolf
2012-03-20, 09:28 PM
Well actually purple would have been my first choice :)

Dark Orchid will do me just fine :D

Holice
2012-03-20, 09:37 PM
Are we not allowed to have the same color?

Kittenwolf
2012-03-20, 09:39 PM
Colour tends to be used to differentiate between characters, so no, nobody should have the same colours.

Kittenwolf
2012-03-21, 03:23 AM
al'Lan, for reference, this is the kind of thing that I was talking about re: a Wilder PrC.
I don't mind if you disallow it, I just had the idea get into my head and had to write it out :)

Resurgent Wilder
The path of a Wilder is a varied and frankly dangerous one. Some never realise that they can Channel, some do and burn themselves out and some are killed when former friends realise what they can do.
Many manage to find a balance where they can wield the power safely and go on to live their lives, learning on their own or rarely collaborating with others to learn from each other.

However, Channeling organisations like the Aes Sedai are always on the lookout for Wilders, claiming them into their society, rigidly teaching them the 'right' way to channel and alternately belittling and berating any Wilder who claims that the can work on their own. Most Wilders claimed into such a society end up beaten into the shape that the organisation demands, or kicked out as a failure, their confidence shattered and their will beaten down.

A few however, reject the rigidity of such teachings. Some few Wilders believe that the path of the Windfinder, Asha'Man or Wise One is not the only way, that there is room in the Power for instinct, self-discovery and personal freedom.
These people aren't content to sit back and just learn enough to get by safely, they actively seek to learn the ways of the One Power, experimenting with weaves and pushing themselves to the limit. These Wilders believe they know the truth: The structured, rigid paths taught by Channeling organisations merely restrict what should be the natural growth of someone's talent. Resurgent Wilders are to Aes Sedai or similar individuals what a mighty Oak in a wild forest is to a carefully sculpted hedge in a noble's garden.

Requirements:
Skills: Concentration 8 ranks. Weavesight 8 ranks
Class: Must have at least one level in Wilder, and must have more levels in Wilder than any other base class
Feats: Forced, Skill Emphasis: Concentration
Channeling: Two or more Affinities
Special: A Resurgent Wilder must reject any formalised, structured teaching. If they are an Initiate they must reject the organisation involved (such as running away from the Wise Ones, quitting the White Tower, etc). This tends to be public within the organisation, and typically cuts the person off from any benefits they had with that organisation.
A Resurgent Wilder may have an individual teacher that they learn from for a short time (no more than a couple of months), but the emphasis must be on self-discovery rather than rigid 'lessons'. Resurgent Wilders may learn weaves and other tricks from other channelers without restriction, as long as it isn't a teacher/student relationship.

Restriction: A Resurgent Wilder may not have any levels in a 'society' based Chanelling PrC such as Aes Sedai or Wise One (though they may have levels in classes such as Dragon Pairs, which do not require societal teachings)

Class Features
Basic Statistics: A Resurgent Wilder's BaB, Saves, Defense Bonus, HD, Proficiencies, Skills and Reputation are all the same as the Wilder base class

Chanelling: A Resurgent Wilder adds their PrC level to their Wilder level when determining Weaves per Day, and continues to lean one additional Weave per level.

Abilities:
1) Euphoric Channeling: As the Wilder lets their emotions and instinct guide them, they form an emotional connection with the One Power. This results in a single, dominant emotion whenever they Channel. Usually (though not always) this emotion is linked to the emotion that formed their Block. Choose one positive emotion, feeling or similar effect (such as elation or 'adrenaline rush'), whenever you Channel that emotion is brought to the fore and overrides all others (if this would counter your Block, such as someone with a "Must be Afraid" block choosing "Courageous", this does not affect your ability to hold the Power, but you must still satisfy your Block conditions to embrace it).
You are immune to any Emotional effect while Channeling
2) Iron Resolve: A Resurgent Wilder is used to always pushing their boundaries and becomes somewhat inured to the potential strain of such things. You gain a bonus equal to your Resurgent Wilder level on all Overchannel checks.
3) Extra Affinity: You gain Extra Affinity as a bonus feat
4) Flash of Insight: Your self experimentation leaves you free to discover things others thought gone. From now on every second Resurgent Wilder level (including this one) you may learn any one "Rare" weave.
5) Insightful Discovery: Allowing the Power to guide your teaching yields many secrets. You may immediately select one "Lost" Talent or one "Lost Ability" feat that you already have the "Latent" feat for
6) Unrestrained Channeling: A Resurgent Wilder's connection to the Power is difficult for another to keep shielded. You gain "Breaking a Shield" as a bonus feat.
7) Improved Iron Resolve: Your gain your Iron Resolve bonus against all Overchannel Fortitude saves.
8) Simultaneous Weaving: You gain Multiweave as a Bonus Feat. If you already have Multiweave, your number of simultaneous weaves is equal to your Wisdom modifier.
9) Insightful Discovery: Allowing the Power to guide your teaching yields many secrets. You may immediately select one "Lost" Talent or one "Lost Ability" feat that you already have the "Latent" feat for
10) Boundless Channeling: You are so adept at Channeling outside what others consider the 'restrictions' of the Power that even Talents themselves become less important. You may now learn powers outside your Talents of up to level Four. (If you have all the Affinities for the power in question, this allows you to learn a power that is normally level five).

I tried to keep it on a par with Aes Sedai. What do people think? :)

ThatQuietGuy
2012-03-21, 04:46 AM
The first thing that struck out at me is that the Lost Ability Feats aren't at all connected to the One Power, so it seems strange that a channeling class should grant access to them as bonus feats. Lost Talents, sure, but how does working outside the norm with the OP suddenly allow you to become a Viewer or Sniffer?

Aside from that, I like it. I don't know how well it fits the setting, as we haven't seen anything like this (that I can recall) anywhere in the series, but it makes sense that these people could be out there.

Kittenwolf
2012-03-21, 05:13 AM
Ah yes, that's right. The "These special abilities are all only for those with the Power" thing was quite debunked in the last few books.

Shall switch that to Lost Talents then :)

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-21, 06:10 AM
Right that makes ten, and since Moranica promised me a character would be up a day and a half ago, if he wants to join it will be in a second wave.

So IC thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12933031#post12933031) going up (see first post)
-There will be a seperate thread for Tel'Aran'Rhiod.

Neo Leviathan: I like the class, but after Level 5 I feel that some of the abilities are a bit off.
(Also as a side note I think there should be more danger to this class as only 1/4 of wilders survive and then you are increasing the amount of power you want to handle).

Boundless channelling doesn't give me a problem, as you're level 15 by then so haven't got that long to learn new weaves, and you'll probably already have chosen quite a few talents. I also like the Lost ability feats, but I think you should still need the Latent feat to take any lost ability (since most PrCs give a single bonus feat at a level).

I just wanted to check that the weaves they could learn were only Rare and not Lost? You should have travelling by then, but I don't want you suddenly having more knowledge than the forsaken.

6) Unrestrained Channeling & 8) Unrestrained Power. My problem with these two is that just being a wilder won't actually make you stronger in the one power (which is what power rating is).

Simultaneous weaving is alright, but I think you should change it to only your wisdom modifier, so Wis 16 can perform 3 weaves.

Ok so I do like the class but here would be my revisions (feel free to suggest other things).

I would suggest putting Forced in as a bonus feat (ignoring the level requirement) at a low level, maybe 1?
Split up Iron resolve, so at 2nd level it affects the concentration checks but not the fortitude ones (You are more practiced at handling flows of greater strength, but if they go wrong it's going to hurt still)
3,4,5 fine.
6: Break Shield bonus feat instead.
7: Iron Resolve applying to fortitude saves
8: Simultaneous weaving change to just Wis modifier, not Wis + number of multiweave feats.
9 & 10 fine.

Kittenwolf
2012-03-21, 06:38 AM
Neo Leviathan: I like the class, but after Level 5 I feel that some of the abilities are a bit off.
(Also as a side note I think there should be more danger to this class as only 1/4 of wilders survive and then you are increasing the amount of power you want to handle).

Hrm. Any idea how that would be addable to the class?



Boundless channelling doesn't give me a problem, as you're level 15 by then so haven't got that long to learn new weaves, and you'll probably already have chosen quite a few talents. I also like the Lost ability feats, but I think you should still need the Latent feat to take any lost ability (since most PrCs give a single bonus feat at a level).

So "You may take either a Lost Talent, or a Lost Ability feat that you already have the Latent feat for" ?



I just wanted to check that the weaves they could learn were only Rare and not Lost? You should have travelling by then, but I don't want you suddenly having more knowledge than the forsaken.

Definitely only Rare ones, not Lost ones :)



6) Unrestrained Channeling & 8) Unrestrained Power. My problem with these two is that just being a wilder won't actually make you stronger in the one power (which is what power rating is).

Good point, somehow I thought that Power Rating was how 'noticable' your Power was.

And I have no idea how I missed the Break a Shield feat. That's definitely what I want



Simultaneous weaving is alright, but I think you should change it to only your wisdom modifier, so Wis 16 can perform 3 weaves.

That works.



Ok so I do like the class but here would be my revisions (feel free to suggest other things).

I would suggest putting Forced in as a bonus feat (ignoring the level requirement) at a low level, maybe 1?

I did consider this, but one of the requirements of Forced is you can't take it after 5th level, so if you're going to take it, you've already got it.
Hrm. Ok, how about this. Swap Forced to a pre-req rather than Multiweave, and have Improved Multiweave be "You gain Multiweave as a bonus feat. If you already have it, your number of simultaneous weaves is equal to your Wisdom modifier.


Split up Iron resolve, so at 2nd level it affects the concentration checks but not the fortitude ones (You are more practiced at handling flows of greater strength, but if they go wrong it's going to hurt still)
3,4,5 fine.
6: Break Shield bonus feat instead.
7: Iron Resolve applying to fortitude saves
8: Simultaneous weaving change to just Wis modifier, not Wis + number of multiweave feats.
9 & 10 fine.

Updating post now...

Also, regarding the IC post, should those of us not in the tower party just post where we are likely to be at this time, and what we're doing, or did you want us in specific places?

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-21, 07:17 AM
Hrm. Any idea how that would be addable to the class?

Through splitting up Iron resolve (should have mentioned that at the time)


So "You may take either a Lost Talent, or a Lost Ability feat that you already have the Latent feat for" ?
Though I'm not sure about this, it seems quite restrictive as it forces you to spend one of your feats on a latent ability, but giving you both at once seems too good.
How about, the first time (level 5) requires the latent, but the second time (level 9) it doesn't?


I did consider this, but one of the requirements of Forced is you can't take it after 5th level, so if you're going to take it, you've already got it.
Hrm. Ok, how about this. Swap Forced to a pre-req rather than Multiweave, and have Improved Multiweave be "You gain Multiweave as a bonus feat. If you already have it, your number of simultaneous weaves is equal to your Wisdom modifier.
Yes to all! (though if you want to take this at level 6 that means you may need to change your feats).


Also, regarding the IC post, should those of us not in the tower party just post where we are likely to be at this time, and what we're doing, or did you want us in specific places?

You can be wherever you want to be, just make sure it's mentioned in your post obviously.

Kittenwolf
2012-03-21, 07:26 AM
Though I'm not sure about this, it seems quite restrictive as it forces you to spend one of your feats on a latent ability, but giving you both at once seems too good.
How about, the first time (level 5) requires the latent, but the second time (level 9) it doesn't?

Hrm. How necessary would that be though? Chances are if you're going to take a Lost Ability, you're going to already have the Latent by then (and it's probably the same one that you picked at lvl 5). Plus, are you even allowed to have more than one Latent Ability?

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-21, 07:45 AM
I think you are allowed more than one Latent, but unles you're a dream walker there aren't often progressions for most Lost things. Especially as it is your 9th level ability, I thought it could be stronger. But whichever you prefer.

Havelock
2012-03-21, 04:13 PM
So I'm sort of stuck with how to make an entrance. I'm thinking of having Ardent lodged at the Blue Lily already, because that's where it looks like the PC's are converging so far.

I'm assuming that the Setting Sun is in the 2mk/day category, which is something he can't afford.

Also, would you allow synergy from bluff and sense motive on Profession Gambling? Probably won't really enter play, but it's a key component of the concept, so having a high modifier is appropriate.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-21, 04:31 PM
So I'm sort of stuck with how to make an entrance. I'm thinking of having Ardent lodged at the Blue Lily already, because that's where it looks like the PC's are converging so far.

I'm assuming that the Setting Sun is in the 2mk/day category, which is something he can't afford.

Also, would you allow synergy from bluff and sense motive on Profession Gambling? Probably won't really enter play, but it's a key component of the concept, so having a high modifier is appropriate.

Since there are 10 characters, there is still a strong possibility of two parties. You don't have to go to the Blue Lily if you don't want to, there is stuff to do in Katar other than standard tavern meeting so feel free to go somewhere else and we will see who ends up together- obviously if you all end up going the same way you'll likely merge into one party.

Yeah Setting Sun is 2/mk a day ish.

Yes you can have synergies for both.

Havelock
2012-03-21, 04:41 PM
Hmm, so where does one go for playing dice/cards?

Tylerb7
2012-03-21, 04:47 PM
Speaking of making an entrance, I'm just waiting for RavenGirl to get this show on the road. I mean, I'm not exactly in any position of authority.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-21, 04:54 PM
Hmm, so where does one go for playing dice/cards?

It's only the afternoon. There will be games at that time in the Dancing Girl, but both that and The Blue LIly will get a lot rowdier in the evening proper.

And I'm sorry, Tylerb, but as a loyal guardsman, you'll have to wait :smalltongue: the Wheel Weaves as the Wheel Wills... (You will hate me by the time I've said this a few more times :smallsmile: )

RavenGirl
2012-03-21, 05:19 PM
Shows how good my close reading is sometimes! I missed the link for the IC thread completely. Wait, an Aes Sedai should never admit that.

*handwaves something about wisdom consisting of seeing how the land lies before deciding to act*

(Sorry tyler!)

First RP problem! I can't see a way out of Anyanna, being an ex-noble initiate, wanting to stay at the Setting Sun rather than the Blue Lily.

I'm tempted to write something about bad directions and then a cart spilling melons, closing the road, but then I realised... that's the DM's perogative ;)

Havelock
2012-03-21, 05:23 PM
Dancing girl is at what level of quality? Poor? common?

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-21, 05:25 PM
It's the low side of average (slightly lower than Blue Lily), it just attracts the rowdier kind of person, who wants to drink and gamble.

Havelock
2012-03-21, 05:59 PM
Blue Lily then, Ardent prefers classier establishments. Probably alternating between the various gambling dens available so as to not overextend his welcome at any of them.

Kittenwolf
2012-03-21, 07:56 PM
Leilanna's composure roll to try and embrace Saidar. I figured I'd put it here rather than double posting
DC 15 Composure: [roll0]

Starbin
2012-03-21, 09:22 PM
@Indeed It Is: Luran was bumping into Oss ... sure, it's a bit ta'veren-ish in nature, but we're heroes, right?

Holice
2012-03-22, 07:58 AM
So I may have foolishly listed my characters name as Beredin previously, that was in correct. It is actually Berin. Thats the problem with having two characters with such similar names.

RavenGirl
2012-03-22, 06:03 PM
*picks present tense, and stays with it*

Tylerb7
2012-03-22, 07:02 PM
Too many years of past tense loving English teachers has rendered me unable to write in the present tense for more than two consecutive sentences.


edit:

alternatively: sum rex Romanus et super grammaticam

Starbin
2012-03-22, 07:15 PM
Okay ... if the Ogier doesn't respond to Luran soon, I suppose I should just continue on to one of the Inns (and what do you know, the Blue Lily looks like a great option!).

Kittenwolf
2012-03-23, 04:43 AM
By the way al'Lan, I've assumed that since Leilanna was already in the bar, she's already organised room etc for the night, at the same price as the rest of the travelers are being quoted, is that Ok?

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-23, 07:44 AM
Neo Leviathan, yeah that's fine. (6sp for room, 3sp for food, 1sp for stabling if you need it)

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-23, 04:31 PM
Questing Beast: I'm pretty sure the Ogier is out in a street somewhere with Luran, he isn't actually at any of the inns.

Havelock
2012-03-23, 06:16 PM
Feeling a bit left alone in my little corner here, but whatever. I guess nobody cares too much about the Illianer dandy, not yet anyway.

Holice
2012-03-26, 11:41 AM
Feeling a bit left alone in my little corner here, but whatever. I guess nobody cares too much about the Illianer dandy, not yet anyway.

Well don't feel too lonely because Berin is still drinking alone at his table as well.

Kittenwolf
2012-03-26, 06:26 PM
And I'm kinda stuck until tanderson11 returns.

RavenGirl
2012-03-27, 07:47 PM
Was waiting on Tyler before interacting with anyone new, but now, wow, yikes! *eyes DM npc warily*

RavenGirl
2012-03-27, 08:05 PM
Oh, that's a beautiful Sense Motive roll. Just beautiful.

Kittenwolf
2012-03-27, 08:07 PM
Positively fantasterific :)
And now.. lets see if the two Wilders upstairs have picked up on your channeling....

Hrm. Ok, there don't seem to be any specific rules for picking up on channelers holding the power (other than looking at them), though the books make it clear that you can (at least sometimes) sense someone holding the power but not actively channeling.

Raven, what did you want to do in this case? I'm happy to hold off detecting until/unless you actually channel something :)

RavenGirl
2012-03-27, 08:27 PM
If Darkspawn can pick up on channellers embracing, I don't see why other channellers shouldn't be able to :)

Kittenwolf
2012-03-27, 08:54 PM
I shall start on the reply then :)
Composure Check: [roll0]

Kittenwolf
2012-03-27, 09:06 PM
IC post updated.
Paranoid? Not at all! It's never paranoia if the White Tower is involved.

Tylerb7
2012-03-27, 09:33 PM
Was waiting on Tyler before interacting with anyone new, but now, wow, yikes! *eyes DM npc warily*

My bad, I thought we were just hanging out in the common room waiting for the others to interact with us.

edit: Hey, I think about six or seven of us are in the same building. Success.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-28, 07:49 AM
Neo Leviathan: Yeah you can feel if someone channels, and I'm pretty sure that you can feel if anyone is simply holding the source, in fact you should be able to feel a channeller even if she isn't holding the source (according to Moiraine in New Spring)

RavenGirl
2012-03-28, 07:10 PM
Now we just need some dramatic event to bring us together as a party! *starts tapdancing on tables*

My second natural one of the game! Spectacular!

Kittenwolf
2012-03-28, 07:15 PM
That's Ok, you're just getting all the Nat 1s out of your system before the life-or-death parts start ;)

Kittenwolf
2012-03-28, 09:26 PM
You know it's a good conversation when the two participants have to chain composure checks :)

Tylerb7
2012-03-28, 09:29 PM
That's why I'm just minding my own business.

RavenGirl
2012-03-28, 09:37 PM
Aaand that's me for tonight, though things seem to be rolling in the right direction :smallsmile:

Holice
2012-03-29, 07:01 AM
@ Beast

My bow is in my room. Seemed a bit odd to walk downstairs with it, for use in doors. :)

Questing Beast
2012-03-29, 01:24 PM
@ Beast

My bow is in my room. Seemed a bit odd to walk downstairs with it, for use in doors. :)

Are you crazy?! That's why you flip a table and use it as cover when the town guard charges through the door!


Uh, I mean yea I too see no purpose for it... :smallwink:

Holice
2012-03-29, 02:08 PM
Are you crazy?! That's why you flip a table and use it as cover when the town guard charges through the door!


Uh, I mean yea I too see no purpose for it... :smallwink:

That's funny. :)

And I edited my post because I missed your previous one in the wall of text. :)

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-03-30, 02:50 AM
RL means I won't be able to post for the next 36 hours, sorry. Just keep RPing it so that hopefully we will have a cohesive group soon. See how far you can all get in that time, and I'll catch up when I return.

Apologies again.

Holice
2012-03-30, 02:33 PM
@QB

Well I am an exception to the rule of the two rivers, seeing as how I left and all. :P And for me, a busy trade day is probably the smallest fraction of a trade day in Illian, but ignorance is bliss. :)

Indeed It Is
2012-03-31, 10:27 AM
Sorry for my lack of posting. Power outage took out my DSL on Monday and it just got fixed last night.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-04-04, 04:23 AM
So guys, are people still interested in playing? We have the ogier and the last member of the party arriving at the Blue Lily, and some of the characters are getting to know each other.

Kittenwolf
2012-04-04, 05:03 AM
I sure am :)
I'm just waiting for either of the other channelers to post something, since they're the ones I've been speaking to

Holice
2012-04-04, 09:40 AM
I'm just sitting here playing cards. :)

Starbin
2012-04-04, 01:36 PM
Luran is continuing his interaction with the Ogier (who's player is having internet issues, I think). Feel free to fast forward us to the Blue Lily for dinner - that can introduce more opportunities for RP ...

Tylerb7
2012-04-04, 04:31 PM
I sure am :)
I'm just waiting for either of the other channelers to post something, since they're the ones I've been speaking to


Same as quoted, except on a slightly higher level of waiting.

RavenGirl
2012-04-06, 05:43 PM
I've been waiting for our third channeller to post ;) guess I'll work on something in reply to Neo's char :) Not quite sure where to take things from here, though... it wouldn't make sense for my character to recruit everyone - she's a lowly Accepted and would likely get punished for showing up with even one extra person in tow!

Starbin
2012-04-06, 08:14 PM
Well to be clear, there is also a huge Ogier finding a seat, so plenty of opportunities to engage with other folks if you're lokking!

Kittenwolf
2012-04-06, 08:30 PM
I've been waiting for our third channeller to post ;) guess I'll work on something in reply to Neo's char :) Not quite sure where to take things from here, though... it wouldn't make sense for my character to recruit everyone - she's a lowly Accepted and would likely get punished for showing up with even one extra person in tow!

I think our third channeler is currently AWOL. I guess from here it's either "ZOMG Ogier!!" or "Lets go start teaching each other weaves"

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-04-07, 04:33 AM
Well i had a few reasons that you would take the others, but I'm going to make them clearer in IC posts- Firstly there's the whole other channelers 'wow be my friends'/I must take you to the tower! Then the fact that Almoth plain has become quite dangerous will require guards, and then I was going to have a Tel'aran'rhiod hook, but since the second of two dreamers is gone, and the other dreamer is already heading to Falme then that's kind of unnecessary.

Starbin
2012-04-09, 04:35 PM
Crit check, if requiredThreat roll: [roll0]; Damage: [roll1]

Kittenwolf
2012-04-09, 10:01 PM
How far away from us is the second flyer at this point? If it's within Medium range (130ft for me) I'll try and web it as well.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-04-11, 02:12 PM
The creature was further than 130ft (More like 500ft?)

Tylerb7
2012-04-12, 05:47 PM
Just clarifying that I'm still 100% with this. College hasn't left me with much free time the last week or so, so I haven't taken the initiative to insert myself into the proceedings very much, but I won't hesitate to when appropriate.

Holice
2012-04-12, 09:07 PM
The creature was further than 130ft (More like 500ft?)

Guess I won't be shooting any arrows at it :)

Starbin
2012-04-12, 10:48 PM
I guess I'll add that if the ladies start magically floating bodies down, my ridiculous attempts at climbing will cease immediately.

Okay, as a side note, I'm not a WoT zealot or expert ... hell, I never even finished the series (GASP! Blasphemy!). But from what I remember, most folks held the one power in awe and assumed that anyone who used it was Tower affliated, right? I just want to make sure Luran is reacting appropriately given the setting.

Kittenwolf
2012-04-13, 12:22 AM
On the main contenant, you're quite correct.
Man using the power is stuff of vicious nightmares who will probably steal your soul and eat it for breakfast
Woman using the power is an Aes Sedai who twists words, makes nations dance like puppets and is completely untrustable (and something most people only know about in legends, unless you're from Tar Valon or a nearby area). "Aes Sedai can't lie, but the truth they tell may not be the truth you hear"

Some people are aware that not every channeler is an Aes Sedai, and I guess if most people thought about it they'd come to the conclusion that not all channelers can be part of the one organisation, there must be renegades etc, but it's something most people avoid thinking about, like the Dark One.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-04-13, 06:03 AM
Tylerb: ok, thanks for telling me :smallsmile:

Quick question- is there anyone still playing who is inside the inn? Ardent/Berin/Bili/Vayl? Something was going to happen inside, but if you've all left then I'll have it outside.

And Neo_Leviathan's right with the summing up of the channellers, men=crazy, women=Aes Sedai=dangerous and not to be trusted. But yeah if people started channelling you would expect they were Aes Sedai.

Havelock
2012-04-13, 10:46 AM
I don't know, I think Ardent would go have a look at what's happening outside, but generally will stay out of the way for everyone else.

Kittenwolf
2012-04-13, 10:52 PM
At the moment Leilanna is pretty well stuck holding the critter. I believe Anyanna has plans to use Healing on the wounded guy, and we'll need to figure out a way to restrain the critter 'normally', since Leilanna can't tie off weaves (yet)

Holice
2012-04-14, 12:51 PM
Berin is at the front door, looking outside, at some crazy ladies waving their hands in the air.

Kittenwolf
2012-04-18, 11:10 PM
Darn, I was hoping Anyanna would get a chance to save that guy while I was restraining the beast :(
I really should take tie off weave next feat I get

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-05-06, 09:29 AM
I'm not sure whether people are just busy or have lost interest in this, but having so many characters that don't respond to the others has unfortunately slowed this down to the point of death.

Therefore I'm going to declare Anyanna, Bili, Shyne and Vayl NPCs.

This leaves: Ossipye, Leilanna, Luran, Berin, Ardent and Lukas.
If any of you are interested please post shortly and the game will recommence (with as few people who want to, I'd be happy running a solo or duo if that was all the people who were necessary).
Furthermore, as an ongoing rule starting now, I'd like to state that even if your character has nothing to say specifically, that you just post anyway (either OOC or IC) stating as such (it could be an opportunity for character examination or introspection if you want) just so others know that things are still moving, and I know I'm not waiting on anyone.

So yeah, I've enjoyed this so far and want to run it, so please come back... :smalltongue:

Havelock
2012-05-06, 04:10 PM
I'm still here, watching my subscriptions for update several times per day. Ardent doesn't really have much to contribute before the situation develops further.

Starbin
2012-05-06, 04:25 PM
Yeah, I should have posted some more internal monologue while waiting ... I'm still here!

Holice
2012-05-06, 07:22 PM
I'm still here, but IC my character knows nothing of aes sedai or shadowspawn, or at the very least, nothing more than your average commoner would.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-05-06, 07:41 PM
Holice: That's fine, but then I'd prefer it if you posted showing what your character did feel, especially if he knows nothing about shadowspawn and suddenly human's are riding huge monsters.

Tylerb7
2012-05-07, 08:24 PM
Glad to see you guys haven't given up.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-05-08, 06:48 AM
Does that mean you're out Tylerb7?

Hopefully once we have a party of about 5 the game will procede at a decent pace.

Tylerb7
2012-05-08, 01:50 PM
Nope, I just meant I'm glad that I'm not alone in wanting to continue this.

Holice
2012-05-08, 03:36 PM
Holice: That's fine, but then I'd prefer it if you posted showing what your character did feel, especially if he knows nothing about shadowspawn and suddenly human's are riding huge monsters.

I have been, my last post included:


Approaching the gathered woman and rather large Ogier, if he remembered right, he asks, "Anyone mind filling me in on what exactly just happened?", and turning to look at the old woman, "And what exactly she is talking about?"

And while some of the other party has begun talking about the woman having foretelling and what not, no one directly addressed Berin.

I can artificially interject more thou, if you want, and assume someone answered my questions by listening in on others conversations.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-05-08, 04:52 PM
I have been, my last post included:

And while some of the other party has begun talking about the woman having foretelling and what not, no one directly addressed Berin.

I can artificially interject more thou, if you want, and assume someone answered my questions by listening in on others conversations.

That's good then, but since there have been large gaps of time people have probably forgotten that questions have been asked (OOC) so listening into the various responses will probably be necessary.

Starbin
2012-05-08, 05:50 PM
And while some of the other party has begun talking about the woman having foretelling and what not, no one directly addressed Berin.

I can artificially interject more thou, if you want, and assume someone answered my questions by listening in on others conversations.

Funny, cuz my character actually responded a few posts after you, here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13126178&postcount=128) ... I think with the initial confusion of who was where, and when, our conversations have all started to blend. Hopefully this gives you something to respond to.

Holice
2012-05-08, 09:01 PM
I apologize. I did see that post, but I was more hoping that the knowledgeable Aes Sedai/power-touched members would be more explicit. I was really just buying time until they fully informed everyone of what was going.

But either way...I'll just interject.

Starbin
2012-05-08, 10:17 PM
Oh, you wanted knowledgable. Sorry, I'm only good for conjecture and assumptions at this point :smallbiggrin:

Holice
2012-05-10, 09:03 AM
Oh, you wanted knowledgable. Sorry, I'm only good for conjecture and assumptions at this point :smallbiggrin:

That made me laugh. +1 for you good sir!

Starbin
2012-05-16, 04:22 PM
Marco to the Polo, y'all! I thought we were jumping back on the posting wagon, but things have slowed again.

I'd hate to see the time of death so soon ...

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-05-16, 04:43 PM
Yeah, come on. I know there might not be much you could say Stabin, but maybe suggest going to Falme? Get some momentum (rather than building the party around the Accepted, who's now an NPC)

Starbin
2012-05-16, 04:58 PM
Well, that was why I posted the comment about the direction Luran was headed. Sure, it wasn't forceful, but it was said where the Ogier and Berin were around to comment back. I've asked some questions in the past and the responses have been slow, so it starts to feel like I'm the annoying kid after awhile

"So have you heard anything about that?"
"What are these things?"
"Man, I was headed to Falme?"
"You gonna eat that?"
"I like turtles"

Post deleted and revamped to be more directive (and interactive) in nature. That's my bad for not being more proactive, Lan. I'll try not to be so passive ...

Starbin
2012-06-07, 06:30 PM
So Luran tries to be more directive, and everyone clams up? Yeesh ... sis this game on death's door, or just in a coma?

Holice
2012-06-15, 08:29 AM
Judging from no response for 8 days, I venture to say dead but hopefully not forgotten. I am still up for continuing with the adventure whenever we can get more people.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-06-15, 09:48 AM
The problem is whenever this is temporarily revived, people stop responding after a couple of days. I honestly don't have a solution for this, except for Deus ex Machina-ing the problem with the raken so that you can proceed with the adventure, but I'm not sure if that would actually help, since I'm not sure it's lack of ideas that is stopping people responding.

Starbin
2012-06-15, 03:44 PM
Yeah, I don't know how to fix that. I guess you could send a PM to everyone that you are pushing forward and ask for who's still available to play. If you get luke-warm responses, then maybe you can revisit the original recruiting thread and offer the opportunity for others to join.

From my perspective, I often wondered if people were subscribing to the thread, because it seemed like long periods where folks wouldn't be active. For myself, I can usually post during work hours (access there), but once I get home, it's limited ... which includes the weekends.

Two recommendations I will provide:
First, either invest in some mapping tools, or clearly describe where everyone is in relation to one another. I know I got lost in the posts a few times.

Second, in a board game like this, you need to synch the party / team up ASAP, or the players seem to get lost in the ambiguity of what's going on. In our particular instance, the initial melding of the party was so disconnected that I wonder if some folks lost interest w/o the classic party focus to latch on to. WoT provides you the perfect plot device to push us all together, since the Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills ...

Just some thoughts. For the record, I'm still on board!

Tylerb7
2012-06-15, 08:00 PM
Yeah, I think the problem here was that we weren't immediately forced into a cohesive party structure---which is great for in person games where you can spend an entire session slowly hashing out the group dynamic, but apparently has some drawbacks for this style of play.

For the record, I'm still very much interested. I would have no problem with you invoking DM-fiat to get everything (back?) on track.

Starbin
2012-06-17, 05:54 AM
So given that, Lan, whaddya say? How do you want to proceed?

Anyone else out there still interested?

Starbin
2012-06-17, 06:28 AM
I actually wonder if we can use the Rakken to back-track to the other guys ... but I'll wait for some folks to jump back in first :)

Tylerb7
2012-06-17, 09:19 PM
Maybe by 2013 we'll get to Falme!



Seriously though, we're not doing as bad as I thought. A lot of the disconnected or unmotivated (to join the party characters) are probably NPCs at this point, and most of the rest of us have the clear short-term goal of dealing with the raken and the long-term goal of travelling to Falme.

I think the biggest issue now is that we need someone to take charge, and I for one was expecting that to be our Initiate--but obviously that plan hit a bit of a snag.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-06-18, 06:15 AM
That's what I wanted to know: Do you guys want a female channeller? One of you could either swap your character for one Anya (changing her sheet to fit your interests, in fact Anya could have been a cover name if you want a different name as well- or replace Leilanna or Veyl).
Or I could DMPC Anya, though I'm not as wild about this idea.
Or you could go with her and discover that she quickly meets an unfortunate end.

Your choice!

Kittenwolf
2012-06-18, 07:20 PM
I'm still about :)
Sorry, I'd been checking this daily and then it seems that I stopped doing so about fourty seconds before people starting posting again ><

Leilanna has no real clue what to do with the Raken, I'm thinking one of the following:
1) Release it and hope it doesn't attack anyone
2) One of the woodman-y people figures out how to calm it
3) Someone kills it
3a) Someone eats it

And after that... I have a funny feeling that "Get the hell out of dodge" is going to be the best method, as the party bolts from the scene of carnage, barely pausing to pick up luggage...

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-06-18, 10:05 PM
I'm still about :)

That's cool, Leilanna won;t be getting NPCed now :smallsmile:

Kittenwolf
2012-06-18, 10:09 PM
*Whew*, so I won't be testing the Raken's disposition by putting my head in its mouth then :)

Tylerb7
2012-06-19, 07:06 AM
To be fair, that really would be the most informative test.

Holice
2012-06-19, 02:10 PM
I am more than willing to try and play an aes sedai if you guys would prefer it over the archer. Just say the word and i will do it.

Tylerb7
2012-06-20, 01:49 PM
While I personally think an Aes Sedai is probably the most thematically appropriate character for a Wheel of Time game, I wouldn't want to push anyone into playing a character they didn't want to. I think RPGs are the most fun when everyone has the sort of character they really want; but if you would prefer to play an Initiate, then that's a different story.

Tylerb7
2012-06-20, 02:56 PM
Hey, Lan, while refamiliarizing myself with the channeling rules I came across this website:

http://mapage.noos.fr/zinuk/downloads/index.htm

Besides having some additional sourcebooks, it also had errata and Q&A from the WoT RPG game designer himself (http://mapage.noos.fr/zinuk/d20faq.htm), Charles Ryan.

Clarifications include changes in Prestige Class requirements (no one needs Sense Residue anymore, apparently) and such. A lot of the Q&A stuff is the sort of thing DnD-players would already know, though---of course worn objects get a save! Still, fairly interesting stuff.


EDIT: Wow, I never realized there was so much unclaimed land (http://mapage.noos.fr/zinuk/maps/political/book01.png) in the southern Westlands. Kind of makes you wonder why Tear and Illian even bother fighting each other.

Kittenwolf
2012-06-20, 07:44 PM
Thanks for that Tyler! Until I read that I didn't realise that Invert was a "Lost" skill. I'd better remove that from my character sheet (and replace it with Sense Motive I think) :)

Kittenwolf
2012-06-21, 02:05 AM
I'm happy to skip forward to dinner, though Leilanna will want to be there for the burial, she feels kinda responsible after all.

Starbin
2012-06-21, 02:08 AM
Makes sense ... I'm not trying to take away any RP action from anyone. And guilty angst is a particularly good one! On to the 'funeral' ...

Kittenwolf
2012-06-21, 02:24 AM
That was more meant of a "She will attend" kind of thing, I'm happy to skip the actual RPing. She'll spend most of the time standing there looking guilty anyway :)

Tylerb7
2012-06-22, 02:54 AM
Just out of curiosity, are any of you guys subscribed to the thread? It's a pretty good way to know when someone has posted, without having to repetitively do a manual check.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-06-22, 07:20 AM
Yes subscribed.

If you guys want to hash things out over dinner that's fine, if not, then a few people could post saying they're going to bed (As Tyler did) and I'll skip to the next day.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-06-26, 06:41 AM
{table=head]Player|Character|Race/Class
Starbin|Luran Delance (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381983)|Midlander (Ghealdan) / Woodsman/Armsman|
Tyler|Lukas Maraven (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380342)|Tar Valoner/Wilder|
Holice|Berin Huhan (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=381358)|Midlander/Woodsman
Neo_Leviathan|Leilanna al'Kay|Midlander Wilder (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=382525)
NPC Currently|Anyanna Sharif (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=380458)|Domani (Bandar Eban)/Initiate|
[/table]

Just thought I'd bring up the (now reduced) table of players, if people are needing to look at character sheets

Starbin
2012-06-26, 12:05 PM
First, I request we add that awesome table and your updates on channeling to your first OOC post - I think it's a little easier to keep track of that way.

Second, I didn't ask before, but are these soldiers similar to the ones Luran saw in his dreams? It changes his perspective and actions, if so.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-06-26, 12:29 PM
Yep I forgot he'd recognise their style of armour.
Obviously, it's heavy interlocking plates, and a full helmet in a strange, foreign style.

Kittenwolf
2012-06-26, 07:41 PM
Well that was a craptacular damage roll :(
I was going to overchannel to a level five weave and burn them all, but Luran is too close and I figured he wouldn't appreciate 5d6+3 fireball damage from an ally :)

Also as a matter of interest, what fire weave is being used on us? Also Fireball?
And what're the chances of Anyanna trying to counter those weaves? ;)

Starbin
2012-06-26, 08:21 PM
Yep I forgot he'd recognise their style of armour.
Obviously, it's heavy interlocking plates, and a full helmet in a strange, foreign style.

Well suck ... cuz he might have been a little more vocal about not hanging out. Ah well, water under the bridge ... I suppose we'll move in. Since I can't see the map at work, please have me engage the closet target (start with anyone wounded, moving to keep from getting easily flanked).

Oh, yeah, no fireball's on my head ... or any other part!

Holice
2012-06-26, 10:32 PM
Oh yea, completely forgot about natures warrior. :)

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-06-27, 04:59 AM
I have to apologise, for you have all really made this game take off, but now I have to go away for a week (thought it wouldn't be for another day and a half) and I'll only be back on the 6th (early though, so hopefully you can expect an update). I apologise again, just post your actions and I'll try and wrap the combat up when I return (or if you're quick, I'll check again just before I go).

Starbin
2012-06-27, 05:29 AM
No worries ... I'm in the process of doing some moving around, so I'll have sporadic posting myself for the next couple of weeks. I'll check in when I can - don't kill me off, but don't stop playing on my account.

Game on :smallbiggrin:

Holice
2012-06-27, 09:29 AM
Ehhhh...pre-emptive apologies Luran?

Kittenwolf
2012-06-27, 09:58 AM
*Sings*
Shot through the back, and you're to blame, darling you give midlanders a bad name...

I'm joking of course
:)

Starbin
2012-06-27, 01:08 PM
No worries ... that's why you took the -4, right? :smallbiggrin:

Tylerb7
2012-06-27, 01:26 PM
Man, how gigantic are those Two Rivers field mice? Pray to the Light we don't run into any of those monsters.

edit: Says the guy with a +1 total ranged attack bonus.

Kittenwolf
2012-06-27, 07:16 PM
Two rivers field mice = Womp rats?

Starbin
2012-06-27, 07:21 PM
Only if Beggar's Canyon = Emond's Field
:smallsmile:

Holice
2012-06-28, 07:20 AM
Did I say field mice? I meant big red barns....gigantic big red barns.

It's just the perfect example of irony, saying that he is a crack shot archer and then rolling a 1.

Tylerb7
2012-06-28, 07:44 AM
Just a quick rules clarification question:

The WoT RPG errata state the following: "To concentrate on a weave while attacking, the channeler must make a Concentration check (DC 15 + casting level)." (the point of this is to make weaves like Fiery Sword actually usable)

Would it be allowable to interpret this erratum as: "To make a standard action while concentrating on a weave, the channeler must make a Concentration check (DC 15 + casting level)"?

Starbin
2012-07-02, 06:08 PM
Okay, are we waiting for the results of the last round, or what? I think I might have missed a post somewhere ...

Tylerb7
2012-07-02, 08:10 PM
Pretty sure Lan is without internet for a couple more days. I myself just got it back after a four day power outage.

Starbin
2012-07-02, 08:24 PM
Gotcha ... just didn't want it to be my fault we were stalled :smallbiggrin:

Holice
2012-07-05, 07:49 AM
I'll just keep checking every day now to see when the action picks back up.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-07-06, 03:51 AM
I'm back, will update IC thread soon.

And yes that interpretation of the rules ought to be fine Tylerb

Holice
2012-07-09, 07:42 AM
So when Berin does get good attack rolls, he hits for 1. But when he fails miserably he would have hit for monster damage. Such is life. :)

Kittenwolf
2012-07-17, 09:06 PM
Apologies for the big walls of purple text for Leilanna's thoughts :)
I'm trying my best to convey the slightly disjointed thought patters that go through someone's head.

Starbin
2012-07-17, 09:40 PM
No worries ... it'shard enough trying to work thru info we all know as players but not as characters, thoughts and colors aside!

Kittenwolf
2012-07-17, 10:03 PM
This is true, the line between what characters figure out in the books and what is 'common knowledge' is pretty fine.

I always thought it was very.. odd.. that the first thing Nynaeve did with an A'Dam was try and add sensations to what she can feel of the other person. Kind of a huge leap of logic.

Kittenwolf
2012-07-21, 09:17 AM
Question for Al'Lan.
What kinds of rolls/thoughts/ideas would be appropriate for working out that the a'dam can be used to make people feel whatever you want them to?
As I said above Nynaeve just pulling it out of nowhere seemed really odd to me, but there may be something about the nature of the device to lead the mind in that direction.

I could probably understand thinking about 'leaning' on the emotional ball in the wielder's head to try and make them feel more inclined to do whatever you want, but I'm not sure if that's a logical leap, or just one that I'm making because I know the deal OOC.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-07-21, 01:01 PM
Well having come up with the Warder bond connection you might wonder if you could compel her to do things (since this is a possibility with Warder bond) or perhaps the nature of the a'dam as a leash and collar might make you wonder. If you don't think Leilanna would do more then it isn't necessary since you know the item allows control of channellers (unless you were planning to train the sul'dam to channel or simply recapturing the damane). The only other aspect of it is the male channeller effect, but again, that isn't somehting that you would need to know.

Holice
2012-07-23, 09:00 AM
Can I get a time update. Basic idea of the day, ie early afternoon or near dusk.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-07-23, 09:13 AM
It's evening, around 7pm, and the light is fading.

Holice
2012-07-24, 09:11 AM
Thanks! Time to find camp. :)

Starbin
2012-07-24, 09:17 AM
The funny thing is that's why we were in this location in the first place ... It was a good place to camp. Of course, given that a) this was a special group sent to find us, b)they tracked us by the Power and not random patrols, c) they are likely not expecting a return immediately, and d) we're still a little ways outside Falme, I'm guessing this is still safe. But who knows!

Holice
2012-07-24, 02:12 PM
The funny thing is that's why we were in this location in the first place ... It was a good place to camp. Of course, given that a) this was a special group sent to find us, b)they tracked us by the Power and not random patrols, c) they are likely not expecting a return immediately, and d) we're still a little ways outside Falme, I'm guessing this is still safe. But who knows!

I just assumed that with a fire blast going off here, and with the trample of battle there's a good chance that the cover and safety of this spot was done for. But we can roleplay it like its still fine, I have no issues with that.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-07-24, 03:50 PM
Well it was quite a large area, and you still have the stream and small copse, so as long as you don't cap on the charred grass it isn't much different.

Holice
2012-07-26, 09:31 AM
I should have played a gleeman, we need some fun in this party. :)

Kittenwolf
2012-07-26, 09:57 AM
Leilanna is supposed to be the fun one, being the daughter of a gleeman, but this has kinda got her rattled...

Holice
2012-07-26, 02:28 PM
Leilanna is supposed to be the fun one, being the daughter of a gleeman, but this has kinda got her rattled...

Just a bit. :P

Holice
2012-07-27, 03:11 PM
Berin is done with anything needed to be said or done until we actually camp/settle down, perhaps eat over the fire, etc. Let me know if everyone else is done and I will take it from there.

Holice
2012-07-29, 04:09 PM
Just refreshing this for everyone. As i said above, I am done, ready to camp and progress the story.

Kittenwolf
2012-07-29, 08:57 PM
Well, at this point I'm pretty much waiting for people's opinions on who gets brought along, and if Anyanna & myself are going to be doing the impersonating, or if we're taking the Damane with us instead.

Starbin
2012-07-31, 06:43 PM
Sorry all - spotty to crappy internet right now. Gimme another day or so and I'll be back for the dream sequence!

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-08-01, 08:19 AM
Also: everyone gains 1500 experience points.

Holice
2012-08-07, 03:31 PM
Is there a roll we can make to see if any of these extra horses are war-trained, in case we ever need to get into mounted combat, or are we assuming that our current mounts are sufficient?

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-08-07, 04:57 PM
Well the 4 from the soldiers are all perfectly trained for war, as is Lukas's steed: the others are all quite sturdy though and would suffice generally.

Tylerb7
2012-08-07, 11:28 PM
I have a donkey!

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-08-08, 02:05 AM
.... I was thinking the noble tower guard from Tar valon would have an exceptionally trained destrier... but alas no, he suffices with a common mule (who is unfortunately not trained for combat..)

Holice
2012-08-08, 07:33 AM
Haha.

Ok then I may make the switch to a combat horse in lieu of the standard, just in case. And maybe give it a name and RP with it a bit in the future. But none of this happens until we get to town.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-08-09, 01:10 PM
Does this silence indicate a desire to move forwards?

Tylerb7
2012-08-09, 01:34 PM
For my part, yeah.

Holice
2012-08-09, 03:09 PM
Yea sorry, same with me, all i was expecting at the most was a nod at the others being able to pull (2) horses with them.

Kittenwolf
2012-08-09, 07:09 PM
I think we're good to go :)

Starbin
2012-08-21, 05:46 PM
Sense Motive: [roll0]

Starbin
2012-08-21, 06:20 PM
Doh! Called out by the kid! Of course, I think Luran's response was appropriate given the campaign world (from what I remember).

Starbin
2012-08-23, 04:36 PM
Oh sure, make Luran out to be the meanie!

Holice
2012-08-24, 12:22 PM
Just for clarification, what do you mean by a 4' x 4' mount?

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-08-24, 01:31 PM
Good point, its a small grassy hillock that is hemi-spherical, but on average is about 4' on each of it's sides and is 4' high. Hope that is clearer:smallsmile:

Kittenwolf
2012-08-25, 05:19 AM
He means "Mound" not "Mount" :)

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-08-25, 05:49 AM
Woops, mound would have been better (though mount can mean a hill, though normally a larger one :smalltongue:)

Kittenwolf
2012-08-27, 07:45 PM
Say, can anyone find if/where it says that Channelers require X amount of sleep to regain weave slots?
I feel kinda bad that Leilanna isn't taking part in watch, especially after not having channeled much during the day :(

Tylerb7
2012-08-28, 09:25 AM
I can't find it. It could be one of those things they just forgot to make rules for, since the books make it pretty clear that channeling fatigue is a big issue.

Kittenwolf
2012-08-28, 07:29 PM
True, but it seems to be on a level with doing a hell of a lot of sprinting/fighting etc, rather than D&D style "Meditate for X time to get Y spell slots", so something that you could recover from quicker if you didn't do too much.

Given all their chores and the standard White Tower hours etc, I doubt Novices/Accepted get eight hours of uninterrupted rest every night, let alone Wise One Apprentices :)

Starbin
2012-08-29, 08:43 AM
I figured the ladies didn't hear what was said about the mound ... but then again, I thought that Berin and Luran were talking aside from the group, and apparently they were talking in front of everyone (Luran would not have talked about Lukas and Kannet as if they weren't there ... that would be a little too rude for him).

However, as far as the mound was concerned, he wasn't going to go ask the ladies first ... he would discuss it with a fellow woodsman first :smallsmile:

Tylerb7
2012-08-29, 10:12 AM
Sorry, it was a little ambiguous where you two 'really' were. Your earlier post made it clear like that you and he were away from the group at some point, but then:


Satisfied with the relative safety of their camp site, Berin provides his steed with some nourishment before helping himself to some rations. He then proceeds to roll out his bed to begin hunkering down.

Looking towards Luran, he asks...

, so I figured you guys were back.

Starbin
2012-08-29, 10:46 AM
No worries ... I figured we'd roll with it (especially after the GM made it so :smallbiggrin:)

Holice
2012-08-30, 06:51 PM
Will hold off on replying until GM gets back and indicates how my watch goes, unless some open RP happens.

Holice
2012-09-10, 08:22 AM
Anyone else still here???

Starbin
2012-09-10, 08:31 AM
Sorry ... Working on getting Internet access back. Still here!

Tylerb7
2012-09-10, 08:50 AM
I'm still here.

Indeed It Is
2012-09-10, 10:53 AM
Hey guys! I'm still here.. er returned! Hoping to bring Oss back in soon.

Kittenwolf
2012-09-10, 07:07 PM
I'm still here :)
Leilanna is rather asleep though

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-09-12, 05:53 AM
I'm still here :)
Leilanna is rather asleep though

I think this..


"Zzzzzzzzzzzz...."

... and this, were subtle hints to wake up the rest of the party, unless you want to handle the mysterious creatures with just the two of you :smalltongue:

Also, Indeed it is, could you reply to the PM I sent you? Still to need to work a few things out. :smallsmile:

Indeed It Is
2012-09-12, 08:03 AM
Just replied to the last PM I got from you. I'm thinking I might not have got the most recent one

Holice
2012-09-12, 08:28 AM
Notching an arrow in his bow, he walks crouched low over to the woman's camp to try and get them awake as well.

This was Berin saying he was waking up the girls. If they are not so easily roused then I guess it will just be the two of us. Or someone else can give it a try, maybe a bucket of water on their sleeping bodies?

Kittenwolf
2012-09-12, 08:51 AM
This was Berin saying he was waking up the girls. If they are not so easily roused then I guess it will just be the two of us. Or someone else can give it a try, maybe a bucket of water on their sleeping bodies?

Ah, I read that as you were starting to head over that way, but hadn't actually tried to wake us up yet, since I figure how you try and wake us up will probably have an effect on the critters circling us.

Holice
2012-09-13, 11:47 AM
Hey guys, just wanted to say that I will be away for the next 4 days, so posts will be limited at best.

Holice
2012-09-18, 11:54 AM
I'm back, so when the dreaming finishes, I can continue the other plot.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-09-18, 12:57 PM
Guys, feel free to continue the other plot simultaneously, Luran and Kannet will just be occupied during this encounter. Well, that or dead...

Starbin
2012-09-18, 01:49 PM
Nice ... nothing like the fuzzy benefits of being puppet-bait ...

Starbin
2012-09-18, 06:41 PM
Oh good lord that was stupid ... I'll have to think about how I want to die for the next action. I'll post tomorrow :smallbiggrin:

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-09-18, 06:44 PM
Your signature now seems decidedly appropriate :smalltongue: But no seriously you won't necessarily die, and provided you survive her next action you can escape.

Holice
2012-09-21, 02:25 PM
How far up are the winged creatures? Is it worth it to try and shoot with my bow?

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-09-21, 06:57 PM
200ft, but getting lower very quickly, so yes, have a go at shooting them :smallsmile:

Holice
2012-10-01, 11:47 AM
Awe, i hope some of you didn't disappear for good, the story was just getting good. :)

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-10-01, 12:02 PM
Well NeoLeviathan was last active on 28th, so maybe just missed the post saying you could post up actions.

Kittenwolf
2012-10-01, 07:03 PM
Hey, sorry, I meant to post over the weekend, but camping took me offline for two and a half days rather than just one. Let me read up and post...

Holice
2012-10-12, 07:36 AM
Going on vacation until next Friday, so I won't be able to post at all until then. Feel free to DM rp me.

Starbin
2012-10-18, 09:45 AM
Are we still waiting on actions?

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-10-20, 04:21 AM
I believe we're waiting on Lukas's action

Holice
2012-10-22, 01:47 PM
Ok, I'm back, stupefied, but back. :P

Starbin
2012-11-15, 12:10 PM
Soooooooo ... .now what?

Holice
2012-11-18, 08:00 AM
New post up :)

Also, with holiday this weekend, I will begone until apprx Sunday.

al'Lan Mandrag
2012-12-20, 12:11 PM
Well that seems to be that. Apologies guys, but we seem to have lost the last remaining interested parties.

Starbin, Holice, I am DMing a new game based on novices and warders to be at the White Tower after the Aiel War. Link to recruitment (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264094). The game has begun but I am happy for you guys to make characters and join later if you would like to. If not, see you around :smallsmile:

Starbin
2012-12-20, 12:16 PM
I'll take a look, but I'm thinking I should take a break from the WoT for now. As I'm learning in the other game, as you move along channelers become so powerful that normal melee characters become somewhat insignificant w/o major help from items and/or other abilities (at least at the higher levels). That, and the story is already written :smallbiggrin:

Thanks for the invite ... good luck!

Holice
2012-12-21, 09:30 AM
Such a shame, story was very interesting with some good character storyline adding depth.

I will definitely check out your new game thou!