[3.5] Doors galore

[Thurbane]

Question: how much would a large set of double doors made of copper be likely to weigh? These doors are set in a 10'x10' section of wall, sized for a Large creature, and would be assumed to be somewhere between 6 inches and a foot thick...

Guesstimations welcome! :smallbiggrin:

[hymer]

30,000 lbs.

I'm assuming the two individual doors are about 10' tall and 3' wide (about the ratio of my doors at home). If they're a foot thick, that's two doors of each 30 cubic feet. Copper weighs in at 542 lbs per cubic foot.

I'm thinking they must be reinforced with some steel...

[Vizzerdrix]

What about copper plating on wood?

[hymer]

Well, some dry, mid-weight oak weighs about 750kg per cubic metre, or 47 lbs per cubic foot. So with a thin copper plating, you could manage to make it weigh about 1500 lbs.

[Thurbane]

30,000 lbs.

I'm assuming the two individual doors are about 10' tall and 3' wide (about the ratio of my doors at home). If they're a foot thick, that's two doors of each 30 cubic feet. Copper weighs in at 542 lbs per cubic foot.

I'm thinking they must be reinforced with some steel...
How about if we assume they are only 8'x3', and only between 4 and 6 inches thick?

What about copper plating on wood?
The reason I ask is a module I recently played through had a few sets of these doors in a dungeon. The text fairly specifically said "made of copper". I (semi-)jokingly talked about removing them and selling them for their material value (copper = 5sp per pound).

[Vizzerdrix]

Aaaaah. I wonder if Shrink Item would help you then? Can you get access to it?

[hymer]

Don't you have a calculator, Thurbane?
12 inches in a foot, right? I'm European. 8x3x½x542=6504

6,500 lbs for the dimensions you name, that's over 3,000 gp per door. Not that they're that portable or anything, and flooding the economy with that much copper is liable to drop the price considerably.

[Coidzor]

Any solid metal structure is going to have some level of intrinsic value. Especially in a setting that's almost always with scarce resources despite adventurers hauling it in and dumping it into the economy and on war footing because beasties everywhere.

And yes, 12 inches to one foot. So 6504 it is, unless I've forgotten how to get cubic feet by multiplying the given dimensions together.

[Thurbane]

Aaaaah. I wonder if Shrink Item would help you then? Can you get access to it?
Not really...dungeon's in the middle of a swamp, and we're only level 5. Our wizard isn't likely to invest in adding it to his spellbook at this point in time.

Don't you have a calculator, Thurbane?
12 inches in a foot, right? I'm European. 8x3x½x542=6504
I do, but I like to subcontract. :smallbiggrin:

6,500 lbs for the dimensions you name, that's over 3,000 gp per door. Not that they're that portable or anything, and flooding the economy with that much copper is liable to drop the price considerably.
True, true.

It was more a thought exercise than anything...

[hymer]

Happy to have been of assistance.
I'll certainly be more careful with what I use for materials in my dungeons. Maybe some haunted gold doors or radioactive coins...

[Mystify]

Ah, yes, the " The Dungeon Is Made Of Loot!" problem...