Reincarnate Question [3.5e]

[Hiro]

Could this spell theoretically reincarnate your char into an age-equivalent dragon? with DM's permission. You'd retain any of youer class abilities you just change your racial mods and all.

[Gavinfoxx]

Anything can happen with DMs permission. As it is, I would probably limit it to similar creatures. In other words, it can never change your type beyond 'humanoid'. But I would let a character research reincarnate spells with different lists of humanoid creatures, as well as a Last Breath version too.

Note that if you use Last Breath rather than Reincarnate, you can essentially repeatedly savescum your way into any of the listed creatures you want. Also, with access to that, you are basically immortal.

[Vulaas]

In theory, and with the DM's permission you could reincarnate into the Tarrasque.

On a more serious note, I would strongly recommend against any DM allowing that, but instead choosing some Fey or Monstrous Humanoid for it.

[The Mentalist]

With DM permission yes, however with DM permission you could be turned into a Great Wyrm dragon hero-deity.

Through the power of the supreme being all things are possible.

Edit: Swordsage'd

[Hiro]

Well I mean with a reasonable amount of change. But monstrous humanoid or fey sounds reasonable. (since in teh spell you are brought back as a "young adult" of the species.)

Well what would you think might eb a cool thing to be reincarnated into?

[Kuulvheysoon]

Once, I had a warblade who was brought back as a troglodyte.

Fun times.

My DM eventually had to rule that continual exposure rendered one immune to that specific troglodyte's stench - our psion kept failing his saves.

[Hiro]

*bursts out laughing*

Wow dude...really? That's pretty funny. poor psion...

And I can't get my mind around the warblade class.

[Hiro Protagonest]

And I can't get my mind around the warblade class.

What? It's so simple! You get this many maneuvers from these disciplines at these levels, and you can ready this amount with five minutes of free time, and you can recover the ones you have readied this way.

[Hiro]

I see... *tilts head* I think

[Kuulvheysoon]

It's pretty much limited spellcasting, except that you can recover all your maneuver at any time, depending on class.

[Malimar]

reincarnate your char into an age-equivalent dragon?
Possible, if by "age-equivalent" you mean "Young Adult":

The magic of the spell creates an entirely new young adult body for the soul to inhabit

For my game, I drew up an elaborate set of reincarnate tables, where you're overwhelmingly likely to get a creature of your Type, but a result that calls for you to roll on a table for a different Type is possible (though unlikely). So in my game, getting reincarnated into some high-powered creature like a dragon is possible but very unlikely. If you're, say, a Dragonwrought Kobold, it's very likely.

But, on the flip side, if your character gets reincarnated into a creature too much more powerful than the rest of the party, he is liable to go off on his own and become an NPC (or maybe get a solo adventure, a la Darth Vaarsuvius).

[dsmiles]

I reincarnated someone into a badger, once. That was one bad-ass badger.

[Particle_Man]

I have a character that reincarnated as a Treant. Good for meelee combat, bad for teleportation transport. :)

[Hiro]

Well I'd like to make a char that is reincarnated as a dragon of the young adult rank but I can't figure out how to play it off.

I admit I'm kind of being influenced by the awesomeness that is BoF3 :smalltongue:

[Ravens_cry]

I had a character who was reincarnated as a Troglodyte.
A purple troglodyte no less because of a cursed magic item.
Sadly, they had to leave the party.
Being Reincarnated as a Young Adult dragon would be pretty awesome.
Definitely would want to be one with Alternate form though.

[Hiro]

Basically one of the metallic dragons. :3

[Hiro Protagonest]

Basically one of the metallic dragons. :3

Only silver and gold.

[Ravens_cry]

Only silver and gold.
Bronze dragons (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm) get it as well.

[Kuulvheysoon]

For what it counts, you forgot about Mercury and Steel dragons (both released online by WotC).

Mercury: http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mm/20040103a
Steel: http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mm/20040328a

[Ravens_cry]

Well, Mercury don't get it until Adult, so it won't be right away if you are being Reincarnated, if ever if the campaign is fairly short from an in-universe perspective, and strictly speaking a Steel Dragon gets Polymorph, not Alternate Form.
Though the latter is really just being nit picky.:smalltongue:

[Hiro]

I wonder if you could house rule that one or two chromatic dragons couuld get it too? *exchanging one of their abilities for it basically*

[Hiro Protagonest]

I wonder if you could house rule that one or two chromatic dragons couuld get it too? *exchanging one of their abilities for it basically*

Well, all of this requires DM approval, you can't even use the argument of "it's fully legal!". So you might as well just be asking to play a dragon. Unless you're DM gives you a very small chance (like one or two percent), then you have to die and Reincarnate again, and again, and spend thousands of gold, all for a tiny chance of being a dragon of indeterminate category. IF your DM lets you.

[Gavinfoxx]

If you want to be a Dragon, Reincarnate isn't the spell you use.

Polymorph Any Object is the spell you use.

[Hiro]

Well I'm doing this for myself really. But the DM I had before was ridiculously nice about what we could have. He gave a 5% chance for it after an explanation and an agreement (the campaign was already high level anyway so he didn't see the harm in it)

[Ravens_cry]

Cast Maximised (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#maximizeSpell) Reincarnate?
"All variable, numeric effects of a spell modified by this feat are maximized"
100 is the maximum result.

[Chess435]

Cast Maximised (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#maximizeSpell) Reincarnate?
"All variable, numeric effects of a spell modified by this feat are maximized"
100 is the maximum result.

:confused::eek::tongue::biggrin: Wow. Just wow.

[dsmiles]

Cast Maximised (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#maximizeSpell) Reincarnate?
"All variable, numeric effects of a spell modified by this feat are maximized"
100 is the maximum result.All that nets you is DM's Choice. Badger, it is, then! :smallwink:

[Ravens_cry]

All that nets you is DM's Choice. Badger, it is, then! :smallwink:
True, but if your DM will hypothetically let you become a Dragon on a DM's Choice, surely you got better DM wrangling skills than that.

[Hiro]

Nooo Not The Badger! T____t

[Jack_Simth]

Nooo Not The Badger! T____t
Badgers (http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/) for everyone!

Cast Maximised (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#maximizeSpell) Reincarnate?
"All variable, numeric effects of a spell modified by this feat are maximized"
100 is the maximum result.
The real question, then, is what happens when you both Maximize and Empower the spell, and get a result that goes off the table (empower can, theoretically, do that on it's own, mind, but using both gives you about a 99% chance of a 101+ result)?

[Absol197]

For my game, I drew up an elaborate set of reincarnate tables, where you're overwhelmingly likely to get a creature of your Type, but a result that calls for you to roll on a table for a different Type is possible (though unlikely). So in my game, getting reincarnated into some high-powered creature like a dragon is possible but very unlikely. If you're, say, a Dragonwrought Kobold, it's very likely.

But, on the flip side, if your character gets reincarnated into a creature too much more powerful than the rest of the party, he is liable to go off on his own and become an NPC (or maybe get a solo adventure, a la Darth Vaarsuvius).

I would very much like to see these tables. Would you mind sharing?

[BShammie]

Badgers (http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/) for everyone!
That was awesome!
You're now my favorite person.





For my game, I drew up an elaborate set of reincarnate tables, where you're overwhelmingly likely to get a creature of your Type, but a result that calls for you to roll on a table for a different Type is possible (though unlikely). So in my game, getting reincarnated into some high-powered creature like a dragon is possible but very unlikely. If you're, say, a Dragonwrought Kobold, it's very likely.

But, on the flip side, if your character gets reincarnated into a creature too much more powerful than the rest of the party, he is liable to go off on his own and become an NPC (or maybe get a solo adventure, a la Darth Vaarsuvius).

I would very much like to see these tables. Would you mind sharing?

The tables sound interesting and I'd like to see them too, if you don't mind.

[Malimar]

I would very much like to see these tables. Would you mind sharing?

The tables sound interesting and I'd like to see them too, if you don't mind.

I do not mind (http://luduscarcerum.blogspot.com/2011/06/custom-reincarnate-tables-2-all-of-them.html)!

They're a little bit inelegant, there are some awkwardly hacky bits, and it requires a fair amount of judgement on the part of the DM, but I figure it's good enough for government work. (If anybody elects to refine these tables, I'd certainly be interested to see what you do with them.)

[Hiro]

Interesting setup for that Malimar. I could use them XD

[Malimar]

I realized recently that the source I made them with drew only from MM1-4, Fiend Folio, and three of the It's Weather Outside books.

So, over the last few days, I've been inputting the most relevant information about all the monsters from all the sources I allow in my games (most of the official 3.5e sources and some 3.0e ones) into a new database. Because I am insane and apparently do data entry for fun.

Once that's done, I'll probably put together a more complete set of tables.