Legendairy
2012-04-05, 12:19 PM
Ok, one of my players has let me know that he is having a problem connecting to his character and the game. I understand most of what he is saying. He isn't sure of his role in-game and out of game its a new group. He has been kind of mousy and doesn't really talk much, for those same reasons stated above. So I will give you a little breakdown on the group, the characters, me as a DM, the campaign and hopefully you out there in the playground can share experience, tips and advice. We play 3.X
Ok the group;
We have a father son combo, the father is an old school 2nd ed player. He plays a stereotypical dwarf fighter, gruff wants to bash things and take whatever valuables from the corpse. He can role play and role play well when he wants too that just seems few and far. He also does dumb things like run around telling people about his demon friend(the character having the problem and I will explain more later).
The son; the son is new to gaming and is 15 yr old. He only played one other PF game I think and they handed him a level 20 ranger and said have fun. He plays a Goliath Barbarian and plays him as a dumb brute "hulk smash" type with almost no role play(again new to gaming).
Gamer; This guy is the old school gamer, he has an almost photographic memory and can recall obscure rules, spells, terrain and various other rules on the fly, very handy. He is great at RP and tries to include everyone.
Instigator/Arguer; He is an old friend of mine and a close one at that. He can be great at RP he comes from a LARP background and really gets into his characters. The only real issue is his characters are always roguey and arguementative. He gets a lote of eye rolls and whatnot but generally has good reasoning behind his arguement in character and does it well enough where most the PC's will eventually cave.
Disconnected; He has potential to be a good RPer, puts depth into his character generation and backstory, enjoys the game and takes time to read rules and whatnot during the week. He has just returned to gaming after a long long pause. Still a new system to him. I think he feels kinda forced into *combat and loot* because of two of the other personalities.
The Characters;(all are roughly around level 5)
The Father= A Duagar(sp?)Dwarf Fighter, rush in and try to kill everything personality but does make SOME good choices.
The Son= Goliath Barbarian, if its not combat don't expect much in the ways of talking.
Gamer= Human Bard, kinda the face of the group also kind of at odds with the dwarf and goliath cause he had to run from a fight do to low HP and they cut him out of the loot.
Instigator= Elf Rogue/Wizard, very opinionated and wants his way and tries to argue it.
Disconnected= Fey'ri Duskblade, mousy keeps to himself doesn't want people knowing he is a demon and also doesnt remember much of his past.
Me as a DM; I am kind of DM by proxy, I have DMed many times over the years and generally don't get complaints. I am sorta lax and play common sense on some rules a lot of the TO stuff that uses obscure wording wont fly in my games but I do allow a decent amount of Optimization. I am by no means the greatest DM ever but I do try to incorperate all my players and set up individual cut scenes and fights, I also try to customize gear for my players and say screw WBL. I try not to show favortism but I feed off RP so those who RP more will probably get more of my attention.
The Campaign; I run in FR but the timeline, the powers that be, the magic items and the realms themselves are subject to change, based on the characters choices.
As always thank you all for your imput. Look foward to getting this resolved. I am always in communication with my players and the one in question isnt leaving the campaign just wishes the group would flow, which it does NOT!
Ok the group;
We have a father son combo, the father is an old school 2nd ed player. He plays a stereotypical dwarf fighter, gruff wants to bash things and take whatever valuables from the corpse. He can role play and role play well when he wants too that just seems few and far. He also does dumb things like run around telling people about his demon friend(the character having the problem and I will explain more later).
The son; the son is new to gaming and is 15 yr old. He only played one other PF game I think and they handed him a level 20 ranger and said have fun. He plays a Goliath Barbarian and plays him as a dumb brute "hulk smash" type with almost no role play(again new to gaming).
Gamer; This guy is the old school gamer, he has an almost photographic memory and can recall obscure rules, spells, terrain and various other rules on the fly, very handy. He is great at RP and tries to include everyone.
Instigator/Arguer; He is an old friend of mine and a close one at that. He can be great at RP he comes from a LARP background and really gets into his characters. The only real issue is his characters are always roguey and arguementative. He gets a lote of eye rolls and whatnot but generally has good reasoning behind his arguement in character and does it well enough where most the PC's will eventually cave.
Disconnected; He has potential to be a good RPer, puts depth into his character generation and backstory, enjoys the game and takes time to read rules and whatnot during the week. He has just returned to gaming after a long long pause. Still a new system to him. I think he feels kinda forced into *combat and loot* because of two of the other personalities.
The Characters;(all are roughly around level 5)
The Father= A Duagar(sp?)Dwarf Fighter, rush in and try to kill everything personality but does make SOME good choices.
The Son= Goliath Barbarian, if its not combat don't expect much in the ways of talking.
Gamer= Human Bard, kinda the face of the group also kind of at odds with the dwarf and goliath cause he had to run from a fight do to low HP and they cut him out of the loot.
Instigator= Elf Rogue/Wizard, very opinionated and wants his way and tries to argue it.
Disconnected= Fey'ri Duskblade, mousy keeps to himself doesn't want people knowing he is a demon and also doesnt remember much of his past.
Me as a DM; I am kind of DM by proxy, I have DMed many times over the years and generally don't get complaints. I am sorta lax and play common sense on some rules a lot of the TO stuff that uses obscure wording wont fly in my games but I do allow a decent amount of Optimization. I am by no means the greatest DM ever but I do try to incorperate all my players and set up individual cut scenes and fights, I also try to customize gear for my players and say screw WBL. I try not to show favortism but I feed off RP so those who RP more will probably get more of my attention.
The Campaign; I run in FR but the timeline, the powers that be, the magic items and the realms themselves are subject to change, based on the characters choices.
As always thank you all for your imput. Look foward to getting this resolved. I am always in communication with my players and the one in question isnt leaving the campaign just wishes the group would flow, which it does NOT!