[3.5] How close are we to bifurcated weapons?

[INoKnowNames]

A Full Blade (or maybe just a Large Great Sword, since Full Blade is 3.0 material) made of 2 Long Swords, 2 (Medium) Great Swords, and 2 Kukris. The Fusion Swords.

How close are we to something like that actually existing beyond homebrew? A character in one of the games I'm in seems crazy enough that he could totally build this kinda thing if such a thing could ever exist without Materia. And I'd be a happy panda if he did.

At the very least, a Bow that could be (relatively) swiftly turned into a pair of weapons (possibly still connected by the Bow's string and used like nun-chucks) and back. What about that?

[Titanium Fox]

The Two-Bladed sword is I think the closest we can get in D&D 3.5 RAW, and even then it's still only a single weapon; it just looks like you welded two together.

[Keneth]

At the very least, a Bow that could be (relatively) swiftly turned into a pair of weapons (possibly still connected by the Bow's string and used like nun-chucks) and back. What about that?
No. Just no. You do not use a bow string to chuck nuns. That's just ridiculous.

[danzibr]

I don't know about core, but... this reminds me of
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3977/swordchucks3gp.png

[Glimbur]

You want this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60864).

[INoKnowNames]

The Two-Bladed sword is I think the closest we can get in D&D 3.5 RAW, and even then it's still only a single weapon; it just looks like you welded two together.

That's very depressing to hear.....


No. Just no. You do not use a bow string to chuck nuns. That's just ridiculous.

Several different interpretations of that sentence came to mind, including using nuns as ammunition for bows.

Seriously though, that kind of thing, while admitedly added humorously, can't be any more impractical than regular nun chucks are, nor some of the -insane- offshoots.


I don't know about core, but... this reminds me of
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3977/swordchucks3gp.png

Heh.


You want this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60864).

Not quite what I'm looking for, but humorous all the same.

No one's got any results for this sorta thing? Weapons that can be used seperrately, combined together, or mixed and matched as needed has -never- come up before?

Depressing...

[panaikhan]

I have, before, home-brewed such items.
I have made two-bladed swords that split into a pair of longswords.
I came up with a D&D version of the SkySword (Longsword, with a shortsword blade either side of the main one that could be launched as 'thrown' weapons, and a dagger blade concealed in the hilt).
I came up with an idea for a chain-sword (like Ivy had from Soul Calibur).
There are rules for bow weapons you can strike people with in melee (one of the 'races of' books i think)

[nedz]

The Two-Bladed sword is I think the closest we can get in D&D 3.5 RAW, and even then it's still only a single weapon; it just looks like you welded two together.

Well the Dwarves have the Urgrosh, which is an Axe + a Spear. And they have the Buckler-Axe which is ...
The Orcs have the Double Axe - imaginative lot those.
The Gnomes have the Hooked Hammer, which is a hammer and a hook.

We also have the Spiked Shield, oh and I could have sworn there were lots of polearms which were cut and shut jobs too.


Several different interpretations of that sentence came to mind, including using nuns as ammunition for bows.
"What amunition do you have left ?"
"I have Nun"

[The Gilded Duke]

The closest you can probably get is the Spinning Sword from Secrets of Sarlona. The spinning sword is basically a flail made of long flexible steel cords that despite not being sharpened at all, move around quickly and do slashing damage.

It is a very unique weapon, like a spiked chain it is a reach weapon that can strike adjacent foes. It can be used with weapon finesse despite being a one handed weapon. It is a one handed reach weapon.

The neatest trick about it though, is that it is designed to be worn as a belt. When worn as a belt, a dc 15 search check is required to even notice that the corded belt could be used as a weapon. If the spinning sword is concealed instead, it gives a +6 bonus on all slight of hand checks.

There are so many things you can do with such a weapon. You could roleplay it as a version of nano filament wires of Hellsing's Walter or be your standard character who wears too many belts, who then uses those belts to kill people.

If you want to go with a more defensive style, you could always pair it with the gnome battle cloak from races of stone, letting you better kill and protect yourself with articles of clothing.

[INoKnowNames]

The Two-Bladed sword is I think the closest we can get in D&D 3.5 RAW, and even then it's still only a single weapon; it just looks like you welded two together.

Actually, after looking that up, I think I found something in another book. You could pay for such a weapon to be capable of splitting apart. Double Weapons capable of being seperated cost apparently 100 gp more than a regular one.

Anyone heard of Bastion Press, by the way? It seems 3.0, but at the same time all the information seems completely compatable, even more so than the Arms and Equipment guide, with 3.5 stuff. At the very least, it's d20 material for sure, on account of the little symbol.


I have, before, home-brewed such items.
I have made two-bladed swords that split into a pair of longswords.
I came up with a D&D version of the SkySword (Longsword, with a shortsword blade either side of the main one that could be launched as 'thrown' weapons, and a dagger blade concealed in the hilt).
I came up with an idea for a chain-sword (like Ivy had from Soul Calibur).
There are rules for bow weapons you can strike people with in melee (one of the 'races of' books i think)

The first two sound a bit what I'm looking for, and the last I think I have come across a couple of times, though I don't remember it. Although I don't think Ivy's Whip Blade counts. It's simply a Transforming Weapon, not specifically combined with other weapons, but can shift forms on it's own.

I wonder... A Masterwork Full Blade/Great Sword homebrewed to work as a Separating Weapon on several levels.. A Pair of Daggers, A Pair of Short Swords, a Straight Sword, and a Long Sword...


Well the Dwarves have the Urgrosh, which is an Axe + a Spear. And they have the Buckler-Axe which is ...
The Orcs have the Double Axe - imaginative lot those.
The Gnomes have the Hooked Hammer, which is a hammer and a hook.

We also have the Spiked Shield, oh and I could have sworn there were lots of polearms which were cut and shut jobs too.

Most of these don't sound like Bifurcated Weapons, unless I've got the definition wrong. I'm under the assumption that such weapons are ones that can be combined together / taken apart from it's origonal form and then are capable of fighting still, just in a different manner.

The first weapon, being a BFG, could be taken apart into multiple blades for switching between dual wielding and 2 handed fighting, being good defensively and offensively. And the second would be a bow that you could take apart into a pair of blades, which seems like it would be a lot more common considering how useful that would be in battle when someone got all close to you.

Also, what's a cut and shut job?


"What amunition do you have left ?"
"I have Nun"

Seems like it would be good against undead. :smallwink:


The closest you can probably get is the Spinning Sword from Secrets of Sarlona. The spinning sword is basically a flail made of long flexible steel cords that despite not being sharpened at all, move around quickly and do slashing damage.

It is a very unique weapon, like a spiked chain it is a reach weapon that can strike adjacent foes. It can be used with weapon finesse despite being a one handed weapon. It is a one handed reach weapon.

The neatest trick about it though, is that it is designed to be worn as a belt. When worn as a belt, a dc 15 search check is required to even notice that the corded belt could be used as a weapon. If the spinning sword is concealed instead, it gives a +6 bonus on all slight of hand checks.

There are so many things you can do with such a weapon. You could roleplay it as a version of nano filament wires of Hellsing's Walter or be your standard character who wears too many belts, who then uses those belts to kill people.

If you want to go with a more defensive style, you could always pair it with the gnome battle cloak from races of stone, letting you better kill and protect yourself with articles of clothing.

Of course, you pick one of the few sources I have absolutely no idea how to find. :smallmad:

And while I don't think it fits what I'm looking for, again being more of a Transforming Weapon than a Bifurcated Weapon, it is still completely and utterly badass.

"Hello. My name is Walter C. Dornez. Ex-Vampire Hunter and butler of the Hellsing organization. I answer the door, I clean up the estate, and I take out the trash. and I also kill self-indulging little *brats* such as yourself."

[Agent 451]

Okay, just so I can understand, is this what you mean by wanting a bifurcated sword?

http://www.conanmovieblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/DualBladeSword.jpg

If it is there isn't anything by WoTC that I can recall matching it, however you could just fluff your greatsword to have twin blades with the separating addon to achieve the effect that you are looking for. I wouldn't make it a double weapon at all, for the purposes of TWF, but I suppose you could make the two blades out of separate materials in the event that you do detach the swords from one another. Enhancements are another problem all together...

[nedz]

OK we have some semantic differences here.

I took bifurcated weapons to mean two different weapons branching from the same handle. Evidently you meant something else.:smallsmile:

A Cut 'n' Shut job is English slang for a car which is made by welding two good halves of usually written off other cars together. The're not terribly safe. I was using this as an allusion to the pole arms one found in earlier additions such as the Glaive-Guisarme, or the Fauchard-Fork etc.

Semantics:smallsmile:

[AslanCross]

Magic Item compendium has the Swordbow, which quickly switches between longsword and longbow form (even in between iterative attacks). It also has a greatsword version.

[Agent 451]

Some other things I've found (which may have been brought up already, if so I apologize) are the triple dagger from A&EG, which has three blades and gives a bonus to disarm checks. The other weapons I've seen that have multiple blades are the panther claw (disarming bonus) and the claw bracer. None of these weapons really seem to be what you're looking for though.

Edit: Actually, Bastion Press's Arms and Armor book does have a double-bladed sword, with two blades mounted above the guard.

[Siosilvar]

You want this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60864).

Somebody else remembers this! Rejoice!

But yes, aside from the various Elven bows that turn into quarterstaves or swords, I don't think you'll find many RAW weapons you can split up or even change weapon types.

[Alokue]

If you just want a weapon that switches around and don't care much about the cost, then you might try Rod of Lordly Might from DMG. It has a very...swiss army knife feel to it, and my DM let me change the sword/spear/axe to be whatever I wanted. Idk though, you may want something mundane (or cheaper!).

[Alokue]

Sorry about the double post -- my school has the site that the browser goes to to post categorized as porn, so I thought i wasn't getting through. >.> Freaking brilliant people.