Bad guys can win too!

[Wavelab]

Ok here's the deal, I'm playing a campaign where it's me and my two villainous lieutenants against 6 good guys(also players). And we need help with our builds if we want to take on these guys. Starting at level 15.

The Villains:

Me: A wizard who has taken this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10192) class. Basically he makes deals and contracts and has a bit of the Nine Hells plus the people he has contracted under his control. Wizard 5/ Devil's Advocate 10
Lieutenant: A conjurer(red wizard) who likes going full out damaging orb spells. He seems to like the acid orb. Focused Specialist Conjurer (Banning Necromancy, Transmutations, Evocations, and Illusions) 5/Red Wizard 8/ Archmage 2
Other Lieutenant: He will probably be the same as one the of the heroes just an evil version.
We will mostly have devil minions.


The Heroes:

A Mailman Sorcerer Incantrix.
A shapeshifting druid.
A good necromancer.
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So our plan will basically be to summon an extremely powerful fiend. But before that we need help optimizing the builds.

[dantiesilva]

Im building a conjurer right now and well even at level 39 my pcs fear her this is the link if you want to check it out. The final build is in one of the last posts.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238600&page=2

Hope it helps even though its gestalt

[Wavelab]

Im building a conjurer right now and well even at level 39 my pcs fear her this is the link if you want to check it out. The final build is in one of the last posts.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238600&page=2

Hope it helps even though its gestalt

That's a really pretty build you have there :smallbiggrin:

I can learn a lot from it. May I ask what spells you prepared?

[dantiesilva]

Anything dealing with sommuning and blasting. i dnt hace Spc so i only have basic spells to work from. But when them basic spells are caster level 40 something doing fire, negative energy, negative levels and -4 to strength you cant go wrong no matter what you cast. But saying evocation is banned for you i would focus on using your buffing spells to keep you safe while your demons come out of every nock and cranny.

[Wavelab]

Anything dealing with sommuning and blasting. i dnt hace Spc so i only have basic spells to work from. But when them basic spells are caster level 40 something doing fire, negative energy, negative levels and -4 to strength you cant go wrong no matter what you cast. But saying evocation is banned for you i would focus on using your buffing spells to keep you safe while your demons come out of every nock and cranny.

The conjurer likes your build. He will most likely follow most of it while focusing on his orb of acid spells.

[Harry]

I said it before trade one level of devils advocate for Tainted scholar or just at it to the end of the build then take the ritual of alignment choose evil now your villain is power Off of devils and taint doesn't that sound evil you also have NI spell slots and the archmage what high arcana's does he have?

[Wavelab]

I said it before trade one level of devils advocate for Tainted scholar or just at it to the end of the build then take the ritual of alignment choose evil now your villain is power Off of devils and taint doesn't that sound evil you also have NI spell slots and the archmage what high arcana's does he have?

I can't screw the party so much by taking Tainted Scholar :smallbiggrin:

He has Mastery of Elements and Mastery of Shaping.

[dantiesilva]

You would be screwing them by playing my class the way its built. Taking 40d6 damage, -4str, and one negative level from one single fire/divine/negative energy fell fireball...Just saying. And well summoning 3 balors and then them summoning and their summons summoning. And casting gate.....Yea....enough said. Immunity to fire from elemental savant, and outsider template. Fire elemental attacks, all spells that are fire being maximized, and saying you have substitute energy fire, everything is fire. Tainted scholar is nothing compared to that XD

[dantiesilva]

And if you think she is over powered her counter part angelis i need to make epic progression for the shadowbane inquister PRc class. And then i still need to add stuff even though he already has an army at level 16-18

[Harry]

Believe me your gonna need tainted scholar to match the mailmans metamagic abilities with blooded metamagic if you choose this then I recommend taking bind vestige and choosing naberius for 1 point of ability damage healed a round