Red_Dog
2012-04-14, 12:44 AM
Hello All ^^
I decided to finally try to stat one of my "antagonists" in the campaign which is =>
An Air Goblin Sorc who uses Primarily Sonic spells and nick named[in character] "Sonic Sax".
Currently I am working to options =>
Howling Dragon blooded Dragon Heart mage=>
Dragonblood Sorcerer 10/Dragonheart Mage 10
*I am NOT using spell-like ability sub. It says, he CAN, not MUST*
Bonus feats Howling Dragon heritage, Breath,
Pros=> A lot more feats[Arcane Grace, Power, Legacy], 3d6/lvl Sonic breath is snazzy, Howling Dragon Legacy is flavorful.
Cons=> terrible terrible losses on "Spell's known" front... At this rate getting only Towering Thunderhead as lvl9 spell. While a lot of lvl9 slots will metamagic'ed lower spells... still having things like Time Stop or Maw of Chaos[w/ born of three thunders, energy sub giving 2 free lvls to "metamagic" it] on the whim is nice...
Howling Dragon blooded Wild Mage=>
Dragonblood Sorcerer 10/Wildmage 10
Pros=> No spell losses! Actual Class features! They aren't great but something... Overall, its really the no spell loss without being 1-20 sorc
Cons=>DREADED magic aptitude... I mean REALLY? basically one less feat is BAD.. may be not as bad as loss of spells... but still bad.
What other PrC that can go well for Sorc? I really do not want to try to get into wizard classes [Mage of Arcane order and etc.] as its just not THIS character. Both above options fit this character really well [maniacal, power hungry, balor backtalking lunatic who is still sane enough to plan, and scheme]. But I guess I might have missed a goo PrC in the books somewhere. Perhaps the class has a lot of feats?, Vile Darkness, Dragonomicon and Savage Species in play.
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What I need help with?=>
[B]Spell Selection. I was thinking 50% of all spells => dmg[I have few sonic once lined up, but help welcomed ^^ Sonic, Electro & Force is what I am shooting for], and 50% is a bag of dirty tricks, from basics[teleport, etc.] to horrible[celerity w/ quick recovery]. I do need help here, as its one of the few actually half-optimized magic users in my campaign. I do not want him completely unbeatable, just really really really scary, capable taking parts of armies by himself. This is something I do need help with.
Feats & Metamagic. Depending on a build, comments are welcome as always ^^
Current 4 Load-outs that on my mind for either builds would look like this=>
Draconic Heritage, Widen, Chain Spell[chain sonic lance combo], Energy Sub[Electro], Born of Three Thunders, Twin Spell or Repeat Spell[not sure which], Practical Metamagic[most likely Chain], Rapid Metamagic.
OR
Draconic Heritage[Bonus], Widen, Chain Spell[chain sonic lance combo], Twin Spell or Repeat Spell[not sure which], Practical Metamagic[most likely Chain], Rapid Metamagic, Residual Metamagic, Arcane Thesis[Cacophonic Burst or Sound Lance].
OR
Draconic Heritage[Bonus], Widen, Repeat Spell, Practical Metamagic[Repeat], Rapid Metamagic, Residual Metamagic, Force of Personality, Quicken Recovery.
OR
Draconic Heritage[Bonus], Widen, Repeat Spell, Force of Personality, Quicken Recovery, Energy Sub[Electro], Born of Three Thunders, Arcane Thesis[Cacophonic Burst or Greater Arcane Fusion].
*Last two, is more for Celerity/Born of Three Thunders Abuse*
[B]Items. I have an artifact in mind for him, but from basics I though Third Eye Clarity[to dodge daze from his spells] and few metamagc rods and those terrible sonic sea shells[free widen if no other metamagic is used]. But by enlarge, he doesn't really on items TOO much.
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So there we have we it... I do hope for most help on spell selection & metamagic combos, as its always the issue. The goal is to deal enough damage to take out units of 60-80 Hp creatures without issues. If that can be done with relative easy and persistence, than using Celerity[and perhaps adding quick recovery & force of personality, for potential dual actions] to do that again the same turn.
So yeah... a Sonic Mailman. ^^ Thanks for reading, and I hope for some help! ^^
I decided to finally try to stat one of my "antagonists" in the campaign which is =>
An Air Goblin Sorc who uses Primarily Sonic spells and nick named[in character] "Sonic Sax".
Currently I am working to options =>
Howling Dragon blooded Dragon Heart mage=>
Dragonblood Sorcerer 10/Dragonheart Mage 10
*I am NOT using spell-like ability sub. It says, he CAN, not MUST*
Bonus feats Howling Dragon heritage, Breath,
Pros=> A lot more feats[Arcane Grace, Power, Legacy], 3d6/lvl Sonic breath is snazzy, Howling Dragon Legacy is flavorful.
Cons=> terrible terrible losses on "Spell's known" front... At this rate getting only Towering Thunderhead as lvl9 spell. While a lot of lvl9 slots will metamagic'ed lower spells... still having things like Time Stop or Maw of Chaos[w/ born of three thunders, energy sub giving 2 free lvls to "metamagic" it] on the whim is nice...
Howling Dragon blooded Wild Mage=>
Dragonblood Sorcerer 10/Wildmage 10
Pros=> No spell losses! Actual Class features! They aren't great but something... Overall, its really the no spell loss without being 1-20 sorc
Cons=>DREADED magic aptitude... I mean REALLY? basically one less feat is BAD.. may be not as bad as loss of spells... but still bad.
What other PrC that can go well for Sorc? I really do not want to try to get into wizard classes [Mage of Arcane order and etc.] as its just not THIS character. Both above options fit this character really well [maniacal, power hungry, balor backtalking lunatic who is still sane enough to plan, and scheme]. But I guess I might have missed a goo PrC in the books somewhere. Perhaps the class has a lot of feats?, Vile Darkness, Dragonomicon and Savage Species in play.
=========================================>
What I need help with?=>
[B]Spell Selection. I was thinking 50% of all spells => dmg[I have few sonic once lined up, but help welcomed ^^ Sonic, Electro & Force is what I am shooting for], and 50% is a bag of dirty tricks, from basics[teleport, etc.] to horrible[celerity w/ quick recovery]. I do need help here, as its one of the few actually half-optimized magic users in my campaign. I do not want him completely unbeatable, just really really really scary, capable taking parts of armies by himself. This is something I do need help with.
Feats & Metamagic. Depending on a build, comments are welcome as always ^^
Current 4 Load-outs that on my mind for either builds would look like this=>
Draconic Heritage, Widen, Chain Spell[chain sonic lance combo], Energy Sub[Electro], Born of Three Thunders, Twin Spell or Repeat Spell[not sure which], Practical Metamagic[most likely Chain], Rapid Metamagic.
OR
Draconic Heritage[Bonus], Widen, Chain Spell[chain sonic lance combo], Twin Spell or Repeat Spell[not sure which], Practical Metamagic[most likely Chain], Rapid Metamagic, Residual Metamagic, Arcane Thesis[Cacophonic Burst or Sound Lance].
OR
Draconic Heritage[Bonus], Widen, Repeat Spell, Practical Metamagic[Repeat], Rapid Metamagic, Residual Metamagic, Force of Personality, Quicken Recovery.
OR
Draconic Heritage[Bonus], Widen, Repeat Spell, Force of Personality, Quicken Recovery, Energy Sub[Electro], Born of Three Thunders, Arcane Thesis[Cacophonic Burst or Greater Arcane Fusion].
*Last two, is more for Celerity/Born of Three Thunders Abuse*
[B]Items. I have an artifact in mind for him, but from basics I though Third Eye Clarity[to dodge daze from his spells] and few metamagc rods and those terrible sonic sea shells[free widen if no other metamagic is used]. But by enlarge, he doesn't really on items TOO much.
=========================================>
So there we have we it... I do hope for most help on spell selection & metamagic combos, as its always the issue. The goal is to deal enough damage to take out units of 60-80 Hp creatures without issues. If that can be done with relative easy and persistence, than using Celerity[and perhaps adding quick recovery & force of personality, for potential dual actions] to do that again the same turn.
So yeah... a Sonic Mailman. ^^ Thanks for reading, and I hope for some help! ^^