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TekHed
2012-04-23, 02:01 AM
Sheets:

Protagonist: Xavox'oryx (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=389858), Herald of Siberys, Seren King of Kings
Cohort: Ingot the Gamekeeper (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=293339), Dragonforged Dreadnought

Retinue:
Follower: Ghadrin (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=393136), Dragonspeaker Druid, Advisor to the King
Follower: Dasmina (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=395067) Captain of the Royal Guard
Followers:Xamot and Tomax (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=395273) Brothers of the King
Followers: Gunther, Helgash, and Farah (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=395785) Lieutenants of the Royal Guard
Followers:
Followers: Bladesong Warriors (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=456920)

Background Information:




The Bladesong Tribe were founded by a Chaotic Good Battle Dragon. They are a gregarious tribe, prone to passion and battle lust and more than any other tribe seek glory through combat. They are one of the few Tribes to maintain a martial bardic tradition, and hold the secrets of ancient draconic words of power that use to great effect on the battlefield. When not fighting or merrymaking, they act as Lorekeepers for the Seren tribes as a whole. Their dragonspeaker, Ghadrin the Scribe foretold the coming of Vox the Herald, born of Sybarite blood.




Siberytes are a rare and relatively recent phenomenon, corresponding among the Seren roughly around the time of the appearance of Dragonmarks on the lesser races. Not simply dragonblooded, these children are born with a reincarnated piece of the souls of one of the great Progenitor vestiges. This concerns many dragons who otherwise go out of their way to slay any dragontouched or half dragons they find, but a Siberyte gains power from the spiritual essence of dragons, and is not the product of racial blood mixing. Because Siberytes are a part of the Prophecy, many dragons will not strike out against them, instead seeking to subvert them to their own ends as greater champions within the great maneuvers of the Xorvintaal.

Siberytes can be recognized by several distinctive traits. First they have no body hair whatsoever, including eyebrows. Second, while their right eye is normal, their left eye is in the form of a dragon's eye...golden and reptillian with a slit pupil. Thirdly, Siberytes are incredibly resistant to magic. Because of this they may never learn spells, but instead draw power from their own draconic souls.

No analog has been found for the other progenitor vestiges, but it is rumored that dark and warped Khyberites exist somewhere within the Demon Wastes.


Character Background:

So it was the Prophecy, as witnessed by Ghadrin, dragonspeaker for the Bladesong, did come to pass when Chief Ramatep took a sorceress for a wife and she bore unto him a Siberyte child. Smooth of skin, dragon soul merged with human soul, one eye for each, this child was named Xavox’oryx, the Herald of Siberys.

The Bladesong tribe take their name from their warrior skald tradition, calling upon the songs of power taught to them by Melkoryx, the founder of the Bladesong. Though a small tribe, their ferocity and the edge of the dragonsong has wrought them power and respect beyond their station. The greatest Lorekeepers and dragonspeakers have always come from the Bladesong. So it was that Xavox, Herald of Siberys was raised in the skald tradition, even as his draconic power began to mature and manifest.

When he came of age, Ghadrin bade the young man come with him to the sacred sands and silent stone sentinels of the Totem beach, and beyond, to the heights of the Great Barrier Mountains. There, extending to the horizon lay the yawning expanse of the Vast. There, the dragonspeaker told him, was he to discover his destiny.

Xavox wandered through the great desert of the vast for two years, surviving only through guile and wits until at last he came to Io’lokar, fabled City of Knowledge. Through charisma and cunning did he make his way through the city wards, coming eventually to the Height and the four great colleges. There did he pour himself into study for another decade, gleaning what he could of Siberytes, the Prophecy, and the world beyond. It was here that he was discovered by Shakkar, dragon scholar and agent of the Chamber, and brought to the Tapestry.

The Chamber, having discerned a portion of the Prophecy, instructed Xavox to unite the Seren, for the time had come for the ancient guardians to take on their greater destiny in the grand narrative of Eberron. Xavox, left a young man, returned a wise and learned warrior. Through moving oratory, cunning negotiation and ultimately the test of battle did Xavox forge the many hordes into one nation. The old clans still exist, but now focused as one outward, towards the rest of Eberron, towards their destiny.

Now, the Seren King journeys by ship towards Sharn, there to announce his Kingdom to the world and forge alliances for the future. He has been warned that he will also make many enemies…


Supporting Cast:


Contact within the Chamber:
Shakkar is a young adult bronze dragon. Well seasoned in his youth from many years in the vast, Shakkar was more curious than most about the lesser races. So it was that when he entered adulthood it was quite natural for him to gravitate towards the Tapestry and the Chamber. While researching the Prophecy in Io’lokar, Shakkar met and befriended a rarity of rarities, a Seren scholar, inducting him into the Chamber and the great game of dragons.

The Retinue:
Ghadrin, dragonspeaker for the Bladesong, and now the Seren nation is a wizened old sage of a druid. As a boy he became enamored of the Fey and spent his young manhood in the arms of a Dryad lover. He became an expert tracker and hunter and learned the ways of the wood from the fey and other creatures there. In his late middle age, during a moment of meditation upon the stars above, Ghadrin received a flash of revelation, noting in the pattern of stars a piece of the Prophecy. If the chief of his tribe bedded the blood of the dragon, Siberys would return to slay its ancient foe, the Dragon Below. Much like Merlin and Arthur, Ghadrin played the role of mentor to the boy, giving him a wise and firm guiding hand that he might develop the character of a leader.

After the child was born, Ghadrin was visited by a young adult bronze dragon, and instructed to guide the child, and when he came of age, send him into the Vast as a rite of passage. When the boy returned a man, Ghadrin was first to his side. In Io’Lokar, Xavox did learn the primordial draconic syllables which created the world, lending great power to the Seren dragonsong. Still, a king needs armor and a weapon fit for a king. Ghadrin, now grown old and withered, returned to the love of his youth, and the Dryad blessed the Seren king with great boons of feycraft armor and a shield, forged in ages past and hidden safe within the bosom of her roots. The weapon was harder…Xavox fought his father for the right to bear Resonance, the mighty greataxe given to the tribe by their founder-dragon, the Battle Maiden herself, Draya’gos. Xavox fought his father, and won, for some things cannot be decided through words alone.

Dasmina is the Captain of Xaxox’s royal guard. A childhood friend of Xavox, and a devout worshipper of dragonkind, she has always beheld him with awe and wonder. While Xavox was on his quest for knowledge, Dasmina devoted herself to martial training becoming one of the most fierce battle maidens of the Bladesong. When the Herald returned a man, and became a king, she eagerly pledged himself to his service and he made her his Captain, in charge of his personal safety. She has feelings for Xavox, and would gladly giver her life for him. However, her sense of awe for him has only increased with his great power and in her devotion harbors does not allow herself to feel worthy of what she wants. She has therefore remained silent, channeling the emotion into protecting him.

Xamot and Tomax are Xavox’s brothers, twins born to his father’s bride a decade after Xavox himself. The twins are giants among men, and their mother died when they ripped their way out of her. From her they inherited the blood of dragons as well, and this has lent them arcane abilities unknown among other Serens. In spite of their size they are quite cunning and stealthy, often performing reconnaissance missions for their brother. By day, they accompany Xavox as part of the royal family, and handle much of the administrative aspects of his party.

Gunther, Helgash, and Farah are the elite lieutenants of the royal guard. Protégés of Dasmina, she has trained them in tactics and command, doting especially upon the young battle maiden Farah. The three work as one unit and are especially close with each other. It is rumored that Farah, as the strongest, has taken both of the men as lovers.

Accompanying the royal retinue are 60 barbarian warriors who form the core of Xavox’s royal guard. To avoid special favoritism, the 60 have been drawn from every Seren tribe. All are fierce fighters and fanatically dedicated to their new king. Xavox keeps their morale high and they are prideful and eager to be at the vanguard of their emergent nation. They are loud, boisterous, and prone to quarreling still with each other, but such rivalries are quickly set aside in the presence of the king.


The Cohort:
In ancient times, did the dragons turn their eye upon the giants of Xen’drik, and raise them up into a great race. The giants were enamored of their draconic patrons and sought to be like them in the Art and Science. One of the many gifts the giants received was an artificial lifeform, a construct created of metal and vines, animated with the blood of a dragon alchemist. This being called Ingot was made head gamekeeper and naturalist of Xen’drik, and presided over the many preserves and the creatures inhabiting them.

When the Dreaming Dark invaded, the giants took inspiration from their gamekeeper to create a race of warriors. These sleepless soldiers were the perfect tool to fight against that which fought through dreams. Ingot witnessed the great cataclysm the dragons wrought, and was crushed under a collapsing building, there to lie inert for 40,000 years.

Ten years ago, an expedition from Morgrave University excavated the ruins of that building and discovered Ingot. Back in Sharn they began repairs and restorations for display when Ingot’s natural healing systems took over and regenerated it back to full health and awareness in a matter of minutes. It introduced itself and was quite in shock of how long it had slept.

Filled with curiosity for the new world Ingot stayed at Morgrave. Its knowledge of the giant civilization was unfortunately dulled by it’s long hibernation but it was still one of the foremost authorities on the continent and became an honorary professor, teaching classes on history as well as the life sciences and magical zoology. During the recesses between semesters Ingot often leads expeditions itself, whether forays into the continent, or the depths of the Dragon Below.

For his efforts, Ingot has been awarded a fellowship with the prestigious Wayfinder Foundation by Lord Boromir ir’Dayne himself. Recently, Ingot’s interests have been drawn towards Dragonmarks and the Prophecy.

Accompanying Ingot are six of his best students. Formerly a front line unit, Maul, Gauge, Frag, Root, Drill, and Zane were advanced shock troopers of the Last War. When the Day of Mourning befell Cyre, the six were caught in the mist. By the time they found their way out the war was over and they were free to lead new lives. Having been forged and trained together, they felt most comfortable in each others company and as such have stayed a unit. As a matter of mutual consent they decided to attend Morgrave University in Sharn, that they might learn a trade beyond the craft of war. They six felt an immediate affinity for Ingot, for he is in a way a living ancestor among them. They sometimes act as teaching assistants and often accompany Ingot on his expeditions for Morgrave or the Wayfinder Foundation.




House Rules:



Game Parameters:

-Starting Level: Gestalt 12
-Starting Ability Array: 18,17,16,15,14,13
-Max HP per level
-Double Pathfinder Feat progression (2 feats every odd level)
-No such thing as class skills
-Revised Skill Merges (See Below)
-No Skill Synergies
-No XP. Leveling by chapter/arc
-No WBL. Equipment as appropriate

Skills:

Richard Burlew's Revised Diplomacy Rules (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9606632&postcount=2)

Skill Merges:
-Balance and Tumble become Acrobatics (Dex)
-Climb, Swim, and Jump become Athletics (Str)
-Spot and Listen become Awareness (Wis)
-Gather Information is now part of Diplomacy (Cha)
-Open Lock is now part of Disable Device (Int)
-Disguise and Bluff become Deception (Cha)
-Ride becomes part of Handle Animal (Cha)
-Forgery and Decipher Script are now part of Linguistics (Int)
-Escape Artist, Sleight of Hand and Use Rope become Legerdemain (Dex)
-Hide and Move Silently become Stealth (Dex)
-Knowledge (Arcana) is now part of Spellcraft (Int)
-Knowledge (Nature) is now part of Survival (Wis)
-Knowledge (Local) is now part of Knowledge (Geography) (Int)

Skills unaffected:
-Appraise
-Concentration
-Craft
-Heal
-Intimidate
-Perform
-Search
-Sense Motive
-Use Magic Device


Race Customizations:

-Karsite: Magic Draining Attacks: DC now scales: 10+1/2 CL+Cha


Class customizations:

-Dragonfire Adepts may choose appropriately themed Warlock Invocations

-For this character the default level one Fire breath effect is replaced with a Thunder [Sonic] breath effect. Like the Fire breath, this may be used as either a line or cone, with the appropriate range for each.



New Breath Effect: Breath Admixture
Minimum Level: Dragonfire Adept 12
Effect:
The Dragonfire Adept may combine any two breath effects they know. If they combine a line effect with a cone effect, the line shortens and becomes a 30' cone.



Reworked Breath Effect: Discorporating Breath of Bahamut
Minimum Level: Dragonfire Adept 15
Effect:
The Dragonfire Adept must be of good alignment to use this Breath Effect. The Dragonfire Adept's Breath Weapon loses its energy descriptor becoming untyped damage. The Breath Weapon Extends out in a 60' Cone and does quintuple normal damage. Any creatures slain by this damage are Disintegrated, though objects (including Force objects) are not affected. In using this Breath Effect the Dragonfire Adept takes nonlethal damage equal to twice their class level. In addition, the use of this Breath Effect burns out the Dragonfire Adept's Breath Weapon, requiring a recharge time of 1 round before any breath weapon may be used again.


-Dragon Shaman Auras increase with CL for Dragonblooded characters as per the Draconic Aura Feat.

-Eberron Bards may replace Inspire Competence with Song of the Heart at 3rd level.

-Warrior Skald and Bard Levels stack for Bardic Music, Loresong uses per day.

-Warrior Skald Performance Skill refluffed as Throat Singing.

-Heir of Siberys now advances Invocations and Breath Weapon damage at all 3 levels.

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-05-02, 06:33 AM
IC Thread


Dramatis Personae

Captain Maximilian Crebain: The captain is a tall, dark-haired Brelish human with a jovial demeanor and years of experience in the skies. He lobbied long and hard for his ship, the Radiant Dawn, to be chosen to bear the Seren delegation.

Ravek d'Lyrandar III: This quiet, aloof half-elf is the favorite grandson of Esravash d'Lyrandar, the House Lyrandar matriarch. He was assigned to pilot the Radiant Dawn as a sign of the matriarch's personal interest in the whole Seren affair.

Sebastian Murray: The boisterous navigator "Salty" Sebastian is a weathered half-orc who has traveled to every corner of Khorvaire. He always has an interesting anecdote to tell or a tale to brighten someone's day.

Ambassador Taelendril: The ever-polite Ambassador is Khorvaire's official representative to the Seren people. Officially working for all and none of the Five Nations, she is to serve as Xavox's guide to the continent.

Delegation Representatives:
House Cannith
Representative: Baron Merrix d'Cannith, marked human male, Baron of Cannith South
Aide: Tarya d'Cannith, ?? human female, Head of Consumables Development
Aide: Korras d'Cannith, marked human male, Head of Life Force Research

House Deneith
Representative: Grand Marshal Robrand d'Deneith, marked human male, Baronet of Sentinel Tower and son of Breven d'Deneith
Aide: Lieutenant Mithas d'Deneith, unmarked human male, Sentinel Marshal
Aide: Dorvan Fasstan, unmarked human male, Sentinel Gold Blade instructor

House Ghallanda
Representative: Baron Yoren d'Ghallanda, marked halfling male, Patriarch of Ghallanda
Aide: Lynnette d'Ghallanda, marked halfling female, Chief Accountant of the Hosteler's Guild
Aide: Lady Moreska Tallfeathers, marked halfling female, Mayor of Gatherhold

House Jorasco
Representative: Baron Ulara d'Jorasco, marked halfling female, Matriarch of Jorasco
Aide: Ularo d'Jorasco, marked halfling male, Master Healer of the Fairhaven enclave and son of Ulara d'Jorasco.
Aide: Mala Boromar d'Jorasco, unmarked halfling female, ??

House Kundarak
Representative: Baron Morrikan d'Kundarak, marked dwarf male, Patriarch of Kundarak
Aide: Lord Torvan Doldarun, unmarked dwarf male, Chief Accountant of Clan Doldarun
Aide: Nakala d'Kundarak, marked dwarf female, Warder-in-Chief of the Banking Guild

House Lyrandar
Representative: Baron Esravash d'Lyrandar, marked half-elf female, Matriarch of Lyrandar
Aide: Calynden d'Lyrandar, marked half-elf male, Viceroy of Stormreach
Aide: Ravek d'Lyrandar III, marked half-elf male, Windwright Captain and grandson of Esravash d'Lyrandar

House Medani
Representative: Lady Telia d'Medani, ?? half-elf female, wife of Baron Treblin d'Medani
Aide: Joras d'Medani, ?? half-elf male, brother of Baron Treblin d'Medani
Aide: Cassandra d'Medani, marked half-elf female, ??

House Orien
Representative: Lady Moreta d'Orien, marked human female, Ruler of the Passage Enclave
Aide: Chief Engineer Karl d'Orien, marked human male, Lightning Rail Development Artificer
Aide: Joseph d'Orien, marked human male, ??

House Phiarlan
Representative: Seneschal Taen Shol d'Phiarlan, marked male elf, Seneschal of House Phiarlan
Aide: Lady Iness d'Phiarlan, ?? female elf, ??

House Sivis
Representative: Doyenne Lysse Lyrriman d'Sivis, marked female gnome, Matriarch of Sivis
Aide: Viceroy Alek Lyrriman d'Sivis, unmarked male gnome, ??
Aide: Councilor Devis Baberil, ?? male gnome, Chief Librarian of the Korranberg Library

House Tharashk
Representative: Daric Velderan d'Tharashk, marked male half-orc, Triumvir of Tharashk
Representative: Khundar'aashta d'Tharashk, marked male half-orc, Triumvir of Tharashk
Representative: Maagrim Torrn d'Tharashk, marked female half-orc, Triumvir of Tharashk

House Thuranni
Representative: Seneschal Ellasa Riann d'Thuranni, marked female elf, Seneschal of House Thuranni
Aide: Lord Eriz d'Thuranni, marked male elf, Head of the True Shapers

House Vadalis
Representative: Dalin d'Vadalis, marked male human, Patriarch of Vadalis
Aide: Donovan d'Vadalis, ?? male human, ??
Aide: Selene d'Vadalis, ?? female human, ??

Aundair
Representative: Lord Darro ir'Lain, unmarked male human, Leader of the Aundairan Knights Arcane
Representative: Warlord Adal Ir'Wynarn, unmarked male human, Aundairan Foreign Minister and Minister of Magic
Aide: Sasik d'Vadalis, marked male human, former Patriarch of Vadalis and current husband to Queen Aurala of Aundair

Breland
Representative: King Boranel ir'Wynarn, unmarked male human, King of Breland
Aide: Lady Ada ir'Morgrave, ?? female human, Professor of Xenoarchaeology and History at Morgrave University
Aide: Lord Colsten ir'Kavay II, unmarked male gnome, King's Arcanist

Cyre Remnant
Representative: Oargev ir'Wynarn, unmarked male human, Prince-in-Exile of Cyre

Karrnath
Representative: Prince Kaius IV, unmarked male human, son of King Kaius III
Aide: General Gruden ir'Erdei, unmarked male human, First Warlord of Karrnath
Aide: Caldrus ir’Kurtvach, unmarked male human, retired general and current Professor of Tactics at Rekkenmark Academy

Thrane
Representative: Queen Diani it'Wynarn, unmarked female human, Blood Regent of Thrane
Aide: High Cardinal Crozen, unmarked male human, Cardinal Primus of the Silver Flame
Aide: Brother Alastair, unmarked male human, ??



Odds and Ends

The Radiant Dawn: Formerly Captain Crebain's personal airship used for cargo and passenger transportation, the Radiant Dawn has been temporarily retrofitted as a diplomatic vessel to ferry Xavox and his retinue to and around Khorvaire. Its emblems of the Seren tribes, Dragonmarked Houses, and Five Nations let everyone know its purpose and serve as a symbol of unity.

TekHed
2012-05-07, 05:40 PM
Oops! Forgot to subscribe to the IC thread when I posted so just now saw your update. A somewhat busier than usual week with entertaining impromptu house guests so my posting will be slower.

TekHed
2012-05-10, 05:52 PM
Still have houseguest, and have to run out again. Pretty busy until Saturday. It's taking me a bit to wrap my head around playing the solo game and more than one character. I want to keep the spotlight on Xavox, but the other characters are important and need to be kept track of... Now I know how DMs feel. :smalltongue:

In any case, I may have slower posting rate for awhile, only 2-3 times per week, but my silence isn't for lack of enthusiasm.

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-05-18, 09:50 AM
I noticed that there's a bit of a contradiction in the backstories in the OP, since they list both Melkoryx and Draya'gos as the founder dragons of the Bladesong. The explanation I'm going with is the one given in the IC thread, but if that wasn't what you were going for, feel free to have Xavox correct Taelendril on that.

TekHed
2012-05-24, 06:28 PM
Hi PoD, the game is going well so far! :smallsmile:

I'm writing to you today to see if you might be willing to help save another game I'm in (another one that I originally called for/masterminded).

We found one DM who then vanished due to real life concerns, and then found a second, who seemed staunch but disappeared over a month ago having to deal with RL legal issues involving his family. Though he assured us he would not forget about us and would be back, the time has come to seek his replacement.

The game itself is a Red Hand of Doom module campaign, though set in Eberron for it's unique take on Tiamat (who is tied into my characters backstory). We need someone super knowledgeable about Eberron to take the reins. Naturally I thought of you. :smallbiggrin:

I'm not sure how full your plate is at the moment, but the fact that it's a module means most of the work has been done for you, and as you will see, our crew of players is highly devoted and very much into the development of the relationships for our characters. Seriously...we're still raring to go after two DMs, and several recruitment phases...

If you are unfamiliar with the module, there is a handbook for setting it in Eberron here. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171284) Naturally I've not read it myself, so as not to spoil any surprises.

Here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231823) is our DM rerecruitment thread from the second round, which has links to all the characters as well as there backstories and a link to our (wholly player created and driven) prequel thread here. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220146)

The OOC for the game is here. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234856)
And the IC is here. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234855) As you can see, we really only just started, two pages in, and having just concluded our first battle together.

...what do you think?

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-05-30, 10:08 AM
Sorry for taking so long to reply, my college graduation was this weekend and I've been busy with moving out and such.

I'm heading off on a trip to Europe with the family for the next week and a half, and my internet access will be a bit spotty for the duration. I think this is a good point to skip ahead, so when I have a chance I'll put up the next post about landing in Khorvaire.


Hi PoD, the game is going well so far! :smallsmile:

I'm writing to you today to see if you might be willing to help save another game I'm in (another one that I originally called for/masterminded).

[...]

...what do you think?

I already have 4 PbP games going at the moment, so I'll have to read through the threads and the module to see if I can fit that in as well. If it looks manageable, I'd be happy to DM it for you.

TekHed
2012-05-30, 11:40 PM
First off, congrats on graduating and on your trip! Didn't realize you were that young. :smalltongue:

Where did you graduate from? Chico?

Second, yeah much of the work in the module has been done for you, so it's free for you to flesh and tweak out, and I imagine that handbook on these boards is pretty shiny too. Just let me know when you can...the players are ready and highly motivated, and would love to be able to continue playing.

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-06-11, 12:32 AM
First off, congrats on graduating and on your trip! Didn't realize you were that young. :smalltongue:

Where did you graduate from? Chico?

Yeah, I get that a lot. :smallwink: I went to RPI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rensselaer_Polytechnic_Institute).


Second, yeah much of the work in the module has been done for you, so it's free for you to flesh and tweak out, and I imagine that handbook on these boards is pretty shiny too. Just let me know when you can...the players are ready and highly motivated, and would love to be able to continue playing.

Unfortunately, I don't think I'd have the time to run that at the moment, since I'm moving across the country in a month to start my new job and I have lots of logistics to work out for that. If you still haven't found a DM to run it by mid-July, though, I'd probably have enough time then for another game.

TekHed
2012-06-11, 04:33 AM
Ooh, fancy-pants! What is your degree in?

Well...seeing as how we haven't even advertised yet, and our DM has long been MIA, I suppose we can wait another month. Besides...I believe you're the right man for the job...

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-06-12, 10:59 PM
Ooh, fancy-pants! What is your degree in?

Bachelor's and Master's in computer science, minor in philosophy.


Well...seeing as how we haven't even advertised yet, and our DM has long been MIA, I suppose we can wait another month. Besides...I believe you're the right man for the job...

Now, now. Flattery will get you nowhere. :smallwink:

TekHed
2012-06-13, 02:10 AM
Fact not flattery!

We are a very character driven troupe, and we hope to continue playing even past the completion of the module, so we are dedicated...we have stuck together and stayed ready and waiting to play through 3 DMs for over a year now...we need a DM who can match our dedication. Also, we need someone who really understands Eberron.

I've checked in with everyone, and they don't mind waiting if you are indeed our man. Once you take a look through the links I sent you, you will see our quality. :smallsmile:

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-06-18, 03:57 PM
Don't know if you noticed, but I updated the IC thread a week or so ago; waiting on you now.

TekHed
2012-06-18, 06:26 PM
I have the window open to respond...just been so super slammed last week and this week. I'll get to it at some point here soon, but also you said you were busy so I figured no need to rush.

Also, not sure what you have planned but at some point before I leave Sharn, Xavox needs to make it to Morgrave to meet up with his cohort and his cohort's retinue.

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-06-18, 06:55 PM
I have the window open to respond...just been so super slammed last week and this week. I'll get to it at some point here soon, but also you said you were busy so I figured no need to rush.

Don't worry about posting, I just wanted to make sure you were aware of that; I've had games in the past that have sat around with no posts for a week or so because threads didn't show up in subscriptions and stuff like that.


Also, not sure what you have planned but at some point before I leave Sharn, Xavox needs to make it to Morgrave to meet up with his cohort and his cohort's retinue.

That's on the schedule, don't worry.

TekHed
2012-06-28, 03:41 PM
Sorry for such a long delay...the last two weeks have been slammed and I've been EXHAUSTED lately.

How go things on your end? Still on vacation? Still moving?

Still think you might be able to take on the RHoD module for us in a few weeks?

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-06-29, 01:32 PM
Sorry for such a long delay...the last two weeks have been slammed and I've been EXHAUSTED lately.

How go things on your end? Still on vacation? Still moving?

Things are going well enough. I got back from vacation and am now back up at school visiting friends and such for a bit before I have to make the final move out West. Hope this weekend is more relaxing than your weeks have been.


Still think you might be able to take on the RHoD module for us in a few weeks?

Looks like it. Assuming everything goes as planned with the move and job orientation, I should have the time in two weeks or so.


The scene Xavox walks into next depends on whether you'd prefer to give him time to mingle with the Powers That Be and make some side negotiations first or jump right into the official meeting. Let me know which and I'll set the scene for that, and I'll add all the important people at the meeting to the Dramatis Personae section in a bit.

TekHed
2012-06-29, 08:04 PM
Things are going well enough. I got back from vacation and am now back up at school visiting friends and such for a bit before I have to make the final move out West. Hope this weekend is more relaxing than your weeks have been.

Oh definitely...I'm done. I think I want to fire up my PS3 for the first time in months and spend a couple days just unwinding. Maybe resume Deus Ex, or maybe crack open Resistance 2.


Looks like it. Assuming everything goes as planned with the move and job orientation, I should have the time in two weeks or so.


:does happy dance: :smallbiggrin:

I'm glad to hear! I really like the care and energy you're putting into this, even though I've had to be a bit more perfunctory at times.

If you're sure, would you mind posting a hello/introduction in the OOC? The troops are all on standby, in an amazing display of patience and dedication for a pbp game. It would greatly add to morale for them to know we get to resume in a few weeks...

Edit: Link:http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234856


The scene Xavox walks into next depends on whether you'd prefer to give him time to mingle with the Powers That Be and make some side negotiations first or jump right into the official meeting. Let me know which and I'll set the scene for that, and I'll add all the important people at the meeting to the Dramatis Personae section in a bit.

Oh lets take our time with it. Let's mingle. :smallsmile:

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-07-02, 05:29 PM
Let the mingling commence. The Dramatis Personae post has been updated with all of the information Taelendril gave Xavox.

TekHed
2012-07-05, 09:21 PM
How many delegations would you say I have time to chat with in a glass and a half?

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-07-06, 11:21 AM
How many delegations would you say I have time to chat with in a glass and a half?

Once you take out the half-hour for general socializing, you could probably have a good in-depth discussion with 3 or 4 of them.

TekHed
2012-07-19, 02:09 AM
Sorry I've been so busy lately. I've had the tab open for days but haven't been in the right frame of mind to make a decent post for politicking. I'll get to it, just wanted you to know I'm still here.

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-07-21, 06:29 PM
Tell you what, here's how we'll handle this scene without getting bogged down with everyone. Why don't you give me a list of the following:
Four delegations you'd want Xavox to get to know/make deals with/ally himself with/whatever (I'm assuming Lyrandar and Breland/Morgrave are two of them);
Three delegations you wouldn't mind him paying less attention to/snubbing/ignoring/ticking off/whatever, whether directly or indirectly;
Two overall goals Xavox has for this meeting (political/religious alliances, colonization, making a particular impression, trade concessions, learning inside knowledge, whatever);
One complication you would, if not want to happen, at least enjoy dealing with.
We'll construct a scene around that and montage the rest of it.

Regarding the RHoD campaign, I'm all set up in my new apartment and ready to go. As soon as I get back from seeing Dark Knight Rises after dinner I'll get some posts up.

TekHed
2012-07-22, 08:20 PM
How did you like TDKR? I saw it at the first midnight showing and I loved it (though not as much as TDK).

I'll get to the rest of your questions a bit later tonight or at the latest tomorrow morning.

Also, here is my cut and paste notice I'm giving all my games:


Just a head's up that I will most likely not be around much the next few days and probably not at all this weekend, from Thursday to Mondy, due to a conference retreat where I'll be speaking at and the need to prepare for my presentation...

TekHed
2012-07-23, 07:33 AM
Four delegations you'd want Xavox to get to know/make deals with/ally himself with/whatever (I'm assuming Lyrandar and Breland/Morgrave are two of them)

Only four??? That's tough!

Quite right. Lyrander, because of her keen interest so far, and Breland/Morgrave for obvious reasons.

Others he would want to get in good with:

Phiarlan, ostensibly because of their mutual love of song and performance but also for their rep in espionage...as Merrix said, knowledge is power (when used by the powerful).

Annnnd...dang this was tough, but I would say Kundarak, since money is also power.

Runners up would be Ghallanda (for the Bladesong and Seren love them some good food, drink, and hospitality), not necessarily Cannith, but Merrix in particular as another who is not so invested in petty politics and would make a good neutral friend, Vadalis, whom he would want to question on the lack of a delegation from the Eldeen Reaches, and the Queen of Thrane, who he would honor for coming herself and for the role of the SIlver Flame in safeguarding Eberron from the overfiends.



Three delegations you wouldn't mind him paying less attention to/snubbing/ignoring/ticking off/whatever, whether directly or indirectly;

Well, Xavox is too good at diplomacy to willingly piss anyone off. I would say indirectly he would perhaps snub Orien by favoring Lyrander, and Thurrani by favoring Phiarlan. Also Karrnath, since they are more or less obviously snubbing the Seren, and from what Xavox has heard, they have a rather ruthless (and to Xavox as a scholar-king, unenlightned) regime.

In general, Xavox will try and avoid showing too much favor to any one nation, preferring to talk trade with the multinational Houses.


Two overall goals Xavox has for this meeting (political/religious alliances, colonization, making a particular impression, trade concessions, learning inside knowledge, whatever)

1.) Establishing Seren sovereignty as it pertains to trade. This includes showing Khorvaire that he is wise and educated, as well as cunning and capable.

2.) Diffusing any fears that Seren intends to threaten any of the Sovereign nations of the continent.


One complication you would, if not want to happen, at least enjoy dealing with.


I can see the headstrong Aundairians wanting to butt heads with the fearsome Seren...

TekHed
2012-08-01, 12:52 AM
Hey, I'm back from my retreat. I did post IC...did you not see it?

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-08-01, 01:41 AM
Hey, I'm back from my retreat. I did post IC...did you not see it?

I posted a huge update on the 27th, so unless you posted since you got back and it's not showing up for me, it's your turn.

Also, you're up in the RHoD thread.

TekHed
2012-08-01, 01:46 AM
Uh...wow. So my subscription list in my user CP never showed me that, and still had me listed as the last poster on the 19th...sorry bout that.

TekHed
2012-08-05, 10:46 AM
Ugh...have had the most intensely busy week! Now I'm migrating to my new laptop and the process is going to take another 25 hours...posting from phone here, but will have to wait until tomorrow to post IC.

TekHed
2012-08-07, 12:54 AM
Forgive my long delay...your posts are so detailed it takes me awhile to wrap my brain around them and figure out how to respond. Truth be told, political games are not really my forte so this is a new horizon for me...

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-08-07, 01:43 AM
Forgive my long delay...your posts are so detailed it takes me awhile to wrap my brain around them and figure out how to respond. Truth be told, political games are not really my forte so this is a new horizon for me...

Don't worry about the delay. I'm glad you're taking the time to go through them thoroughly; I like slipping puns and real-world references into my longer montage posts, and it's always nice to be appreciated. :smallbiggrin:

I haven't run a good political game in a long time, since they tend to work best in smaller groups and while I was in college I had so many people asking to play under me that I had to run two games per semester. I just hope you're enjoying this as much as I am.

TekHed
2012-08-07, 01:45 AM
Yah, I particularly chuckled at the "don't drink and derive" bit. :smallbiggrin:

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-08-07, 01:57 AM
Yah, I particularly chuckled at the "don't drink and derive" bit. :smallbiggrin:

I try. Also, Khaldun curves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve). :smallamused:


To continue the not-getting-bogged-down-in-minutiae approach, here's what we'll do next. Xavox has already established good relations with several delegations, ticked off a few others, and left the others receptive to his suggestions. In his opening speech, he suggested that the points he considers most important are (1) the Seren are taking their first step into a larger world, (2) many things in the world are changing, and everyone needs to change together with them, (3) outside factions, from the past and other places in the present, will have an influence on what happens next, and (4) the Dragonmarked are important in what is to come.

Why don't you have Xavox make two specific proposals, each related to a different one of those points, either large or small (e.g. a big one for #2 "the Seren should be made a full member of the Five Nations" or a small one for #4 "we value the 'Marked, each House should agree to tutor some of our people"), and make a corresponding Diplomacy check. Additionally, he should make specific proposals of any sort to each of three particular delegations, either to try to mollify a ticked-off delegation, further strengthen an allied delegation, or to swing an on-the-fence delegation to his side, with a corresponding check. Remember that we're using the Giant's deal-based Diplomacy rules, and don't bother with Lyrandar, they're already as close as they'll get.

That gives you five specific points to work with. After they're proposed, we'll do any counter-proposals on those if Xavox rolls low, and then there will be 3-5 deal proposals to the Seren from various parties based on how loyalties lie at that point; you can determine Diplomacy DCs and any counter-proposals necessary. That process will give us a good idea of how everyone's relations with the Seren stand and how the overall negotiations went and that will conclude the meeting.

Sound good to you?

EDIT: Post your points in this thread first, so we can go over ambiguities and so I can have the other delegations' opening remarks lead gracefully into your suggestions.

TekHed
2012-08-07, 02:52 AM
Hmmm...again I'll need to meditate on it for a bit before I can properly respond...and I'm headed into a busy few days. I might not get to it until the weekend, which I have off for the most part...

TekHed
2012-08-09, 02:17 AM
Alrighty! I reviewed the Diplomacy rules so I'm ready to begin:

Proposal related to 1: While geographically remote from the 5 nations, and therefore not practically able to actually become one of the 5 nations of Khorvaire, Xavox proposes a full fledged permanent embassy located in Sharn. He also welcomes other embassies on Seren.

Also, Xavox will express his desire to begin putting his people through formal education in Morgrave...and offer the university the option of creating a full-fledged satellite branch on Seren island. So...a portion of the wealth Seren makes as it steps into the world will be put towards Morgrave tuitions. Very limited access to Argonessan will be granted for academic expeditions, provided the Dragons do not take offense, and Xavox, who has more pull with Dragons than just about any human, will add his considerable diplomatic clout to these negotiations. The Seren will of course charge a hefty-but-worth-it toll for such expeditions.

I'll go ahead and take your suggestion for 4, which is further tutoring of his people by the Dragonmarked houses.

As for proposals to specific delegations...

Proposal for Cannith to build infrastructure on Seren, bringing it up to modern standards.

Proposal for Ghallanda to open and maintain a hub city on Seren for the purposes of tourism and hospitality for outsiders.

Proposal for Jorasco to provide medical infrastructure and health care on Seren.

All three of course provide them with lucrative contracts from the burgeoning Seren economy, while also bolstering said economy making it very win-win.

Of course the distance and air/water travel means that Lyrander will have trade/freight rights over Orien, but again, Lyrander is in the bag as it were.

Khundarak is already friendly so Xavox won't mention it...but building an economy will require banking which is why Xavox made good with them...the bankers always make out the best.

As a sort of unrelated aside, Xavox will also express his fascination with warforged, and make a proposal that any of that race who wish may find sanctuary and citizenship on Seren.

You'll note with the obvious and understandable bias towards Breland, he is mostly staying neutral towards the actual nations. The overarching theme however is of bringing Seren into the modern age, opening up trade, and participating in, and growing the economies of both Seren and Khorvaire. All told, and counting on Sivis maintaining it's neutrality, I've managed to make good with half the Houses.

So...how did I do? You likey? :smallsmile:


Care to break me down some target numbers, or do you just want me to roll dem bones?


edit: oh yeah, and when the meeting is going to be wrapping up, Xavox would like to offer up a special performance of his mastery of Bladsong throat singing, and the dance-performance-storytelling that goes along with it...

TekHed
2012-08-09, 03:06 PM
Also, just ran across this image that might make for a grand Aberrant Dragonmarked Khyberite villain...


http://www.wizards.com/global/images/dnd_4new_module_eberronspotlight1_picMain_en.jpg

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-08-17, 01:06 AM
All right, DCs to hit are Base 15 + 15 (highest level 13, effective +2 for some of them being gestalt) + 9 (highest Wis) = 39, modified as follows:


Proposal related to 1: While geographically remote from the 5 nations, and therefore not practically able to actually become one of the 5 nations of Khorvaire, Xavox proposes a full fledged permanent embassy located in Sharn. He also welcomes other embassies on Seren.

Also, Xavox will express his desire to begin putting his people through formal education in Morgrave...and offer the university the option of creating a full-fledged satellite branch on Seren island. So...a portion of the wealth Seren makes as it steps into the world will be put towards Morgrave tuitions. Very limited access to Argonessan will be granted for academic expeditions, provided the Dragons do not take offense, and Xavox, who has more pull with Dragons than just about any human, will add his considerable diplomatic clout to these negotiations. The Seren will of course charge a hefty-but-worth-it toll for such expeditions.

+0 relationship modifier: Mixed allies and enemies to consider
-10 risk modifier: They get access to Seren and Argonessen, and to the Seren scholars. 'Nuff said.


I'll go ahead and take your suggestion for 4, which is further tutoring of his people by the Dragonmarked houses.

+0 relationship modifier: Mixed allies and enemies to consider
+5 risk modifier: Enough delegations there don't see enough financial benefit to teaching the Seren to make it worthwhile.


Proposal for Cannith to build infrastructure on Seren, bringing it up to modern standards.

-2 relationship modifier: Cannith is allied
+0 risk modifier: Having a new secret laboratory construction project is good for business and prestige, but it probably won't pay dividends and isn't close enough to be secured and managed as well as the rest of them. The excuse to have lots of warforged around because it's a sanctuary doesn't hurt either....


Proposal for Ghallanda to open and maintain a hub city on Seren for the purposes of tourism and hospitality for outsiders.

Proposal for Jorasco to provide medical infrastructure and health care on Seren.

+0 relationship modifier: Ghallanda and Jorasco are currently neutral
-5 risk modifier: This is probably something they'd have propositioned Xavox for anyway, you're handing them monopolies in a new market right off the bat.


So...how did I do? You likey? :smallsmile:

Yes indeed.

So, your DCs to hit are 29, 44, 37, 37, and 34. You basically have them in the bag, just don't botch the House tutoring roll. Roll that, then I'll put up the next post and Xavox can react to it.

TekHed
2012-08-17, 02:47 AM
Brevity due to posting from phone:

[roll0] Well...Breland and Morgrave are certainly pleased...

[roll1]. Edit: heh! Didn't botch, but just happened to miss by 1! I think you jinxed me! Anyways, a near-miss means they refuse, but I can make a counter-offer and try again? (Or whatever...) I'm actually pleased it happened like that...adds to the drama!

[roll2] ...and so is Cannith.

[roll3]

[roll4] Ghallandra also seems pleased, but Jorasco moreso... :smallbiggrin:

TekHed
2012-08-18, 01:35 AM
Do I need to have Xavox make his proposals in another post, or are you going to incorporate them somehow into yours? It's nice to have the IC thread be an accurate read for someone where they wouldn't need to follow the ooc thread to know what happened...

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-08-20, 11:30 PM
Next IC post is up; sorry about the delay. You can have Xavox make his proposals and respond to any comments (feel free to make stuff up for them), montage-style like I did. They'll make their counter-proposals after that, so if you want to guide their proposals you can have Xavox steer the conversation to relevant topics.

TekHed
2012-08-21, 01:11 AM
Er...so just to clarify, IC-wise, Xavox has not yet made any of the proposals I just rolled for, and I should now make them in my next post?

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-08-21, 11:24 AM
Er...so just to clarify, IC-wise, Xavox has not yet made any of the proposals I just rolled for, and I should now make them in my next post?

Correct. The idea being that they're raising a bunch of concerns and his proposals are addressing them.

TekHed
2012-08-28, 06:57 PM
Proposals posted!

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-09-06, 03:55 AM
So, one of the Khorvarian proposals to Xavox was going to be Orien demanding some part in transportation to counter Lyrandar's trans-oceanic monopoly. The King certainly shut that delegation up nicely. :smallwink:

The counter-offer for Seren receiving apprenticeship/tutoring in the Houses is, as mentioned IC, allowing the Korranberg Library to set up a library branch and research institute on Seren on behalf of Sivis/Zilargo, in addition to the Morgrave extension there, to allow Seren to be trained by the Houses on the island instead of bringing them to existing enclaves. Xavox can either accept this or try to make a new offer more advantageous to Sivis and the others at a penalty.

The new offers are as follows:
The Five Nations request that Seren welcome groups of shifters and changelings as it does warforged.
Karrnath and Kundarak request that some Seren warriors be sent to the Lhazaar Principalities to help combat piracy, given their experience fighting on and around islands.
Vadalis requests that some Seren rangers/woodsmen/etc. assist them in Q'Barra and the Shadow Marches in finding and capturing strange and exotic creatures, and helping transport and train them if necessary.
Cyre requests material aid and adventurers to assist them in exploring the Mournland, recovering what Cyran property they can, seeking out a cure for the Mourning, and otherwise aiding them in reclaiming their birthright.

Let me know what DCs you think would be appropriate for convincing Xavox of those proposals and I'll roll for them.

TekHed
2012-09-06, 07:05 AM
Hmm...well let's do it by the book eh. I'm mostly amenable and so is Xavox, but Ghadrin's presence there means he has a better than usual chance of determining the true motives behind these proposals/requests...nice that the cohort adviser is actually advising!

So we have a base DC of 15, plus the highest level character 12, plus the highest wisdom modifier which is 6,

So the base DC is 33

Relationship is 0 for Just Met

Risk/Reward: Welcoming Shifters and Changelings

Possible additions to workforce and the goodwill of the Khorvarian delegations balanced against the strain of such massive change and an influx of population (note Xavox isn't worried about jobs for Seren...in some ways he sees the introduction of Warforged as a form of "Automation" and plans to employ many of them as magewrights)...the Seren people themselves are going to be mostly the upwardly mobile class busy getting educated, and out into the world (which is interesting because most of them currently are illiterate barbarians).

I'd call that just about even, with Xavox perhaps counter offering to set aside one of the smaller islands for such colonies. In any case he will call for strict limits on the rate of migration.

So DC 33 for that one.

Aiding Karnath (less appealing) and Kundarak (much more appealing) to fight pirates is more favorable...it will give the Seren a way to continue expressing their warlike nature while they become educated. It does spread them more thin however... Let's call that favorable: DC 28

Vadalis's offer is similar, asking the Seren to do the kinds of things they normally like to do. DC 28

Cyre however is another story. The Seren are superstitious and consider the land cursed. While Xavox is very curious as an academic to study the Mournland, it will seem more like a suicidal mission for his people, with less reward as the Cyrians aren't nearly as influential. On the other hand, if he does help and a solution can be found, well then he would have a whole nation owing him a huge one...

Let's call it slightly unfavorable: DC 38

Roll dem bones and we'll see how Xavox will react IC...

This is fun!

TekHed
2012-09-08, 11:48 PM
Just waiting for your rolls before I post IC. :smallsmile:

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-09-09, 12:31 AM
Just waiting for your rolls before I post IC. :smallsmile:

I'm aware. I have a bunch of PbP games to get through, it takes a while to make my way down the line.

The shifters/changelings request will be made by the group as a whole, so we'll treat that as coming from King Boranel, for a +36 modifier.
1d20+36 vs. DC 33: Auto-pass.

The piracy request comes from the best diplomat among the Karrnathi and Kundarak delegations: Baron Morrikan and Caldrus ir’Kurtvach are tied at +21.
[roll0] vs. DC 28: Success.

The hunting request comes from Vadalis, whose highest Diplomacy modifier is +14.
[roll1] vs. DC 28: Success, and a nat 20 at that, lucky guy!

Finally, the Cyre request comes from Prince Oargev and his +19 Diplomacy.
[roll2] vs. DC 38: Failure.

There you have it.

TekHed
2012-09-09, 01:08 AM
I know...keeping you quite busy aren't we! :smalltongue:

I'm fine with this one being the last down the line, since it's a solo game and all.

Anyhow, looks like the Cyre delegation failed within 5, so they can get a counter offer and a chance to revise their proposal eh?

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-09-09, 01:30 AM
I know...keeping you quite busy aren't we! :smalltongue:

I'm fine with this one being the last down the line, since it's a solo game and all.

If ctrl-tabbing between thread tabs and clicking on new PM popups can give you carpal tunnel, I'm well on my way!


Anyhow, looks like the Cyre delegation failed within 5, so they can get a counter offer and a chance to revise their proposal eh?

Yep, they failed their roll, so you get to make a counteroffer to them, and they either accept or revise their proposal.

TekHed
2012-09-09, 02:20 AM
Just to be clear, I mean as a PC I'm free to make what comments I please but technically RAW, had they failed by more than 5, would I be obliged to just refuse them outright? Were it the other way around and I failed by more than 5, I'd not get a counter offer from them right? They would just refuse?

I guess I'm not too clear on how the Margin of Failure/Success should be handled with these rules...?

P.S. I have 14 tabs open myself right now... :smalltongue:

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-09-09, 02:51 AM
Just to be clear, I mean as a PC I'm free to make what comments I please but technically RAW, had they failed by more than 5, would I be obliged to just refuse them outright? Were it the other way around and I failed by more than 5, I'd not get a counter offer from them right? They would just refuse?

I guess I'm not too clear on how the Margin of Failure/Success should be handled with these rules...?

P.S. I have 14 tabs open myself right now... :smalltongue:

If they fail by more than 5, they fail to convince you to take the deal. You can refuse as politely or rudely as possible, but they still fail. It's entirely possible for someone to be persuadable if you fail by more, but you're only guaranteed to be able to make a counteroffer if you fail within that margin.

TekHed
2012-09-09, 03:33 AM
So, even if I the player think what they are offering sounds good and I want to agree, if they fail it means my character must refuse?

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-09-09, 03:04 PM
So, even if I the player think what they are offering sounds good and I want to agree, if they fail it means my character must refuse?

Well, it's not really explained in the Giant's rules, but here's my take on it: When you succeed on a Diplomacy check, you've done everything right to convince someone to your point of view. You've mentioned convincing points, you've conveyed your trustworthiness, you've used the right body language and mannerisms, and so on. If you fail by less than the margin of failure, you might not have persuaded your target but you're still on the right track: you're trustworthy, friendly, and persuasive, but you might need a bit more time to clarify things, change tacks, etc.

If you fail the check, then, something's missing. Maybe you don't convey enough sincerity, maybe they think you're holding something back, maybe they think you're spinning the risk/reward outlay to your benefit, and so on. So while they might agree with the general thrust of your argument, right here and right now they're not convinced of it and won't agree to your deal. Any counteroffer you'd make would have to be sufficiently different to require a different deal rather than a minor modification of the first one. I'd say, then, that if someone tries to diplomacize you and fails, you would be obligated to refuse them, though you're under no obligation to refuse to listen to similar deals a bit later.

TekHed
2012-09-09, 07:21 PM
Gotcha. It just seems like with his own high modifiers, you have to be VERY skilled to have a chance for Xavox to listen to you, and I don't think of him as that snooty. :smallredface:

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-09-09, 07:29 PM
Gotcha. It just seems like with his own high modifiers, you have to be VERY skilled to have a chance for Xavox to listen to you, and I don't think of him as that snooty. :smallredface:

You don't have to be very skilled to have Xavox listen to you, you have to be very skilled to persuade him to do something he hasn't decided to do on his own. You can talk and talk and talk, but you can't push him around, and that's a good quality in a monarch.

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-09-17, 09:18 PM
I've posted in the IC thread, but the new-page bug strikes again, so you'll need to hit Post Reply to see it. Should be fixed once you post.

TekHed
2012-09-19, 12:10 AM
Okiedokie. Posted!

Not too sure what's next but I trust you have a seen in mind. EDIT: Let's hang out in Sharn! Lots to see that I've never explored in character...maybe Xavox can grab a hat of disguise and head with some of his followers down to the Torchfire and some rousing bawfy entertainment at the Ten Torches Theatre...?

Also, hope quoting a cool billon wasn't too much of a stretch for the GDP, or potential GDP of the Seren islands/people. I guessed that Xavox is counting on the large upsurge in his economy with the present dealings, and the fact that even with such a bounty, results aren't going to happen overnight.

If I overstepped, I can always edit the phrase to be whatever you think is reasonable, 10 million, 100 million, whatever.

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-09-19, 01:26 PM
Okiedokie. Posted!

Not too sure what's next but I trust you have a seen in mind. EDIT: Let's hang out in Sharn! Lots to see that I've never explored in character...maybe Xavox can grab a hat of disguise and head with some of his followers down to the Torchfire and some rousing bawfy entertainment at the Ten Torches Theatre...?

Hanging out in Sharn, coming right up. I'll have a post up later today.


Also, hope quoting a cool billon wasn't too much of a stretch for the GDP, or potential GDP of the Seren islands/people. I guessed that Xavox is counting on the large upsurge in his economy with the present dealings, and the fact that even with such a bounty, results aren't going to happen overnight.

If I overstepped, I can always edit the phrase to be whatever you think is reasonable, 10 million, 100 million, whatever.

A billion should be fine, given the upcoming investments and the presence of plenty of dragons. There's no real hard-and-fast information on the economic scale the nations and Houses work on, but I've always pictured it as being on a real-world scale, more or less: the major nations have GDPs in the single-digit trillions, the Houses work in hundreds of billions, and other powerful international groups like the Church of the Silver Flame, the Aurum, etc. or smaller nations like Aerenal and Seren Island have assets in the tens of billions range. A billion gp would be a significant outlay, but for an effort that would be the equivalent of un-nuking half of Europe and rebuilding it from scratch, that kind of investment should be expected.

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-10-14, 04:11 AM
According to my calculations, a DC 70 Perform check should net you roughly [roll0] gp and attention from Khyber Himself, but I think we'll pass on that for now. :smallwink:

I'll have a post up for this game once I decide the appropriate response to a performance of that magnitude of awesomeness, and the RHoD thread is the next one on my list, don't worry.

TekHed
2012-10-14, 04:46 AM
Yeah, I know...optimizing for skills in DnD generally leads to insanity.

What did you think of the Tuvan throat singing? The Sygyt guy in the middle part of the video is amazing...multiphonic tones simultaneously...he sounds like a flute! Now take that and apply bardic magic to it...Xavox probably puts those guys to shame.

Anyways, good impromptu concert eh? I honestly had not planned or intended to do that until your last post with the comedian, so lots of spontaneity all around! Totally inspired touch to have Ghadrin use his ring to play Melchoryx...

Makes sense too...word will spread (though the delegates might be miffed he performed for the commonwealth prior to his uptown performance schedule in a few days...of course for them, he has his whole contingent...Seren Mass Choir!), and will take hold in the minds of the people now...not sure if that was your intent, goading me into it with the comedian, but if it was intentional...well played...

Too bad, Xavox is too regal, and has to think of politics in mating, because hot curvy halflings are hot...

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-10-14, 02:22 PM
What did you think of the Tuvan throat singing? The Sygyt guy in the middle part of the video is amazing...multiphonic tones simultaneously...he sounds like a flute! Now take that and apply bardic magic to it...Xavox probably puts those guys to shame.

They're pretty impressive. I actually saw a similar concert when my extended family went to Disney World when I was younger; one of my uncles was devastated that I found the "primitive" music more impressive than the Guess Who.


Makes sense too...word will spread (though the delegates might be miffed he performed for the commonwealth prior to his uptown performance schedule in a few days...of course for them, he has his whole contingent...Seren Mass Choir!), and will take hold in the minds of the people now...not sure if that was your intent, goading me into it with the comedian, but if it was intentional...well played...

Maaaybe. :smallamused:

It was meant to be an opportunity to show that the common people of Khorvaire had a stereotyped view of the Seren, to show that there is some resentment that the "lesser" nations don't have a say in this supposedly momentous alliance, and to allow Xavox to show how he reacts to his social inferiors demeaning his heritage and his nation. So I was goading you into something, and whether you responded with a performance, a lecture, a duel, or nothing at all would be both character development and a plot point.

Too bad, Xavox is too regal, and has to think of politics in mating, because hot curvy halflings are hot...[/QUOTE]

TekHed
2012-10-25, 01:25 AM
Any thoughts yet on how you would like to proceed?

Also, sorry if I let my frustration drive me to vehemence in the Nine Masters game. I get rather sensitive about my characters sometimes, and having spent a lot of time on charop boards and the Gaming Den, I can be opinionated about what is and isn't balanced, and what constitutes good game design and level-appropriateness. I really did spend a lot of time on Koan, tweaking him until I thought every little nook and cranny fit together perfectly. Oh how I agonized over minutia...

Hopefully we can work it out.

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-10-25, 04:00 AM
Any thoughts yet on how you would like to proceed?

The main issue is that the current outcome of "Xavox has blown the mind of every commoner in Sharn and is about to get mobbed by adoring fans" interferes with what I had planned for the next scene (namely [REDACTED] happening in the bowels of Sharn due to [REDACTED]), but I think I know what I want to do next. I should have a post up tomorrow.


Also, sorry if I let my frustration drive me to vehemence in the Nine Masters game. I get rather sensitive about my characters sometimes, and having spent a lot of time on charop boards and the Gaming Den, I can be opinionated about what is and isn't balanced, and what constitutes good game design and level-appropriateness. I really did spend a lot of time on Koan, tweaking him until I thought every little nook and cranny fit together perfectly. Oh how I agonized over minutia...

Hopefully we can work it out.

Believe me, I understand the charop angle. I frequent the Den, I was on the charop forums before 3.5 came out and came up with a few original and popular game-breaking combos of my own (I posted one particularly fun build, nicknamed "Yahweh", right around the Gleemax debacle and promptly lost the thread in the forums transition :smallfrown:), and I run very high-power games. The thing is, though, optimization includes making the best build for a given concept for a given game, so even if Koan would be fine in a party of casters, when your fellow players are concerned about power level you need to adjust your character up or down to fit the group dynamic.

Enough on that, though, let's keep that discussion to the Nine Swords OOC.

TekHed
2012-10-25, 04:08 AM
Sorry if I spoiled your plans...as I said it was a spontaneous response to your post. hope I didn't muck anything up.

TekHed
2012-10-28, 07:57 PM
Hope you don't mind me writing here, since my Inbox is filling up and this is essentially our private thread anyways.

Just wanted to say, if you ever have an opening for another game, or one of your current games drops out for whatever reason, I have another game in need of a replacement DM and I think you will find it a tasty game indeed...

Yep. You're my no. 1 go-to DM now. :smallredface:

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-11-02, 03:11 AM
Sorry it's taken so long for me to get to this thread; we had a recent re-org at work and my team is swamped, so I've been working evenings and weekends and haven't been able to get to my PbPs as fast. IC post coming soon.


Hope you don't mind me writing here, since my Inbox is filling up and this is essentially our private thread anyways.

Just wanted to say, if you ever have an opening for another game, or one of your current games drops out for whatever reason, I have another game in need of a replacement DM and I think you will find it a tasty game indeed...

Yep. You're my no. 1 go-to DM now. :smallredface:

I am 100% certain that I don't have the time to run it right now and won't for at least another month, but I wouldn't mind a link so I could take a look at it.

TekHed
2012-11-06, 09:59 PM
Right-O!

Before I get into particulars, let me just say that even getting one DM post a week on a steady basis would be a marked improvement. We all are okay with having a slow game, so long as it's relatively steady.

All of the original recruitment threads have been lost...this game has survived 4, count 'em 4 DMs. One other player has stuck with me for 3 of those, while two of the other players are recent recruits who have barely seen play, but strong roleplaying all around.

The first thing to say is that it is a Dark Sun game. A very particular sort of Dark Sun game, namely brought into 3.5 and at a high level. I've seen other DS games that focused on the low-level gritty aspects, including one short-lived E6 version. However, if ever a setting deserved a campaign that went to epic it is DS. Epic level characters can become dragons, avangions, or elemental lords. So high level. Not sure if you are familiar with DS or not, but my instincts tell me you are. :smallsmile:

Another particular is that it is meant to be a heroic game. Many DS games favor the brutal aspect of the setting, claiming that heroic characters don't work, but in the novels most of the characters are heroes more or less, attempting to step up in a land where no one else will.

Now, I'm a fan of the novels (Prism Pentad, currently reading back through towards the end of book 4), but from a gaming issue they pose the problem in that it ties up the setting in too nice a bow...they change the status quo too much and keep the NPC heroes front and center stage for all of it. Fr that reason we are setting the game at the beginning of the age of heroes, after Rikus and the heroes have killed King Kalak and freed the city of Tyr, but before anything else has happened. The idea is that while Rikus and Aegis and the others exist and have played there role, from here on anything goes, and events should play out different than the novel, allowing our PCs to take the spotlight.

Overall they tend to falter on the DM commitment issue (which brings me to you!). Our latest DM held on admirably through many RL tribulations but finally collapsed under the priorities of university. The point is, I seem to be great at drawing together committed patient players, so we just need a DM who can step up. Of course as you know it can be dastardly hard to get a DM to step in and save a game where the guidelines are set and the story is in progress...I feel like I ought to mail you a droid that plays a hologram of me saying "help us Pair'O'Dice, you're our only hope!"

Anyways: the basic parameters of the game are:

12th level (we started at 10, but have been languishing there for nearly 2 years so it's time to upgrade).

35 point buy.

Feat at 1st level, 2nd level, then every even level after.

Max HP per level (DS monsters are notoriously underrated in CR).

Normal DnD skills.

Standard WBL.

Each PC also gets two legacy-like items that aren't part of WBL. These are all unique items with stories attached to them: if it is a weapon, or armor, you get +1 at every odd level,so 1=+1, 3=+2, 5=+3, 7=+4, 9=+5, 11=+6 etc. to a max of +10 at level 19 (and when we hit epic they become artifacts with abilities to be determined with a DM). As usual the max numeric bonus is 5, and any amount of the bonus after +1 may be traded for weapon/armor special abilities as usual for the normal bonus cost as if you were paying for it.

If it is not a weapon, you can have other scaling bonuses, but only at a rate of +1/4 levels, so 1=+1, 4=+2, 8=+3, 12=+4 etc. to a max of +6 at level 20. These bonuses can be of any type, and apply to one effect or be split between several...for example, one of Ma-at's legacy item gives a +2 bonus to wisdom, and another +2 to Natural armor, as insight bonuses.

The idea is to keep the 3.5 power curve, and penchant for the major Dark Sun protagonists to have powerful/unique artifacts, while keeping magic items otherwise rare. In other words, part of the purpose of the legacy items is to keep pace with 3.5's item system, because magic loot is going to be quite rare in game. This makes the PCs on the "movers and shakers" level while preserving (no pun intended) the atmosphere of the setting.

Sources allowed are pretty much all of them, with sorcerers of course banned (psionics takes that role on Athas), but we are making heavy use of the XPH and Sandstorm in particular. My character is an Asherati, which I've come up with a whole background for them as one of the mutated races descended from halflings, and a Walker of the Waste, which I have likewise refluffed into being an Asherati-lead druidic organization.

As for the Dark Sun conversion itself, we are heavily drawing from the all-but-offivial work of Athas.org (http://athas.org).

The game itself is hosted on MW, which gives us our own forum so we can have individual character threads where some, like myself, plan to keep journal entries and such.

Forum is here: http://www.myth-weavers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=19236

Currently talking with the outgoing DM to get a compilation of his story notes and NPC stats for the battle currently in progress.

Oh, last thing, one of the characters uses the same image for his character as I am using for Koan, so beware any cognitive dissonance, except not really because the pic is really for the sword...his character is an elf with a chain shirt and not a human in full plate, but whatevs.

Anyhow, I know you are swamped, but maybe you will feel inspired to add another dedicated group to your stable in a month or so. Certainly I've got a dedicated group together, but I find it hard to imagine at this point anyone else I could find who would be as dedicated and diligent as you.

Help us Pai'O'Dice! You're our only hope! :smallredface:

TekHed
2012-11-06, 10:00 PM
Seren post incoming next...

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-11-17, 11:20 PM
The first thing to say is that it is a Dark Sun game. A very particular sort of Dark Sun game, namely brought into 3.5 and at a high level. [...] Not sure if you are familiar with DS or not, but my instincts tell me you are. :smallsmile:

Why oh why must you tempt me so!? Dark Sun is one of my favorite settings, and I fondly remember running DS in my 2e days; I've read the Prism Pentad (of course) and am familiar with Athas.org but haven't managed to get a 3e DS group together.

Unfortunately, I don't have the time for another game right now, and probably won't until at least mid-January; I'm already juggling 8 games and adding another (particularly on a different forum I'd have to check) is too much. But I'll definitely keep it in mind if things get less busy.


I'll have another post up for this game once Nine Swords and RHoD are updated, hopefully by tomorrow evening. Did you ever get a chance to test out my program, by the way?

TekHed
2012-11-18, 06:11 AM
D'oh!

I haven't gotten to it, mainly because in order to test it I have to switch over to my all but retired desktop, which is a compaq from 2004...yeah very slow, and I have to get my roommate to loan me his mouse and put batteries in the keyboard since I don't have a mouse that works with it anymore because my last one broke.

I have the day totally free tomorrow and planned to catch up on some long procrastinated gaming stuff myself.

Regarding Dark Sun...I thought you might like it!!!

Listen, we have been a bloody patient lot, so long as there is hope I can keep them together. Letting them know mid-January can bolster spirits and as we are heading into the holidays now it's the time of year for pbp slowdown anyways. And...as I sad, even if it was the last game on your list and you only did one update a week, but consistent, I think we would be stoked. I can get the outgoing DM to put together his notes into a file I could send you, so you can understand where we are, but feel free to take whatever is there and run in your own directions. Currently we are in a fortress city the DM made up, called Keil-Duron, which in this version of Athas is essentially the ancient dwarven stronghold over the iron mines in the mountains near Tyr, from the age when dwarves still lived underground and mined and had body and facial hair.

Our intent is to play from where we are now (12th level) into epicness so as to enjoy the unique opportunities for metamorphosis in the setting. I'll hit my big "apotheosis" at level 16.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is slow and steady wins the pbp race.

Sorry to hear about your work troubles. From what I hear these things happen.

Happy Thanksgiving!

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-12-13, 03:59 PM
You're up, by the way, in case you missed my last IC post.

TekHed
2012-12-13, 04:46 PM
oh yeaaah....

by the way, any further consideration about picking up a Darksun game come mid-January?

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-12-13, 04:51 PM
The mid-January estimate is based on how my projects at work are going, since the main impediment to picking up another game is that working nights and weekends takes up a lot of my free time, so I won't know if I can do it until mid-January actually arrives and I know whether they're done or not. I'll let you know earlier if anything is finalized and I know before that, but you might want to start looking around for another DM for that in case things don't work out.

TekHed
2012-12-13, 05:06 PM
but....but...you're the bestest!

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-12-13, 07:05 PM
My manager also thinks I'm the bestest, so that vile fiend keeps insisting I do work to keep me away from the truly important thing in life: running games for people on the internet. :smallwink:

TekHed
2012-12-13, 08:43 PM
pfft. Clearly he has no sense of priorities...

TekHed
2012-12-15, 12:28 AM
I'm serious btw. I can't think of anyone more suited. For starters you are comfortable with, and actually know how to run high level games. Second, you know and are comfortable with the Dark Sun setting and 3.5. Third, you have shown that you are amenable to rescuing games from less committed DMs. Last but not least, you know how to tell a compelling yarn, and make good maps.

And as I said, even one post a week from you would be more consistent than we've had in a good while. The other players agree (one has stuck with me through 3 DMs so far, out of the 4 or 5 we've had).

I know it's a time issue and so not entirely in your hands, with regards to your work projects, but please do consider it. We would be much obliged... :smallsmile:

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-12-16, 08:26 PM
Aw, stop it. Flattery will get you nowhere. :smallwink:

I'll definitely do what I can, since as I said I do really want to run Dark Sun again. If it works out for me, you'll be the first to know.


Regarding this game, what are your current plans for Xavox? I know you wanted to hit Morgrave soon, but did you want to do anything else first?

TekHed
2012-12-16, 08:36 PM
I think he is probably tired. Long day: traveling, high level diplomacy, sightseeing, a full-blown performance and an interview. Yeap, I'd say it's time for bed.

Tomorrow, with the breaking of the new day, Xavox will be very interested to see the headlines for starters, then head out in disguise to get the buzz on the streets, and hit Morgrave while out. Probably need to get in touch with that one woman from Morgrave from the pow wow earlier.

I am pretty sure that he will have official business of some sort, especially once the other muckety mucks get wind of what Xavox has been up to.

Up to you on the last really...not sure what would be the next proceeding in terms of the "official business" and the ongoing diplomacy.

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-12-16, 11:52 PM
Tomorrow, with the breaking of the new day, Xavox will be very interested to see the headlines for starters

Interested in the headlines, you say? (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?c5lcg5xc337gfmk)

TekHed
2012-12-19, 05:54 AM
Wow! I'm touched Dice that's amazing! How long did it take you to make that? I showed it to my roommates. Definitely a cut above.

Can you paste the link into your next post so it is findable for posterity?

PairO'Dice Lost
2012-12-19, 12:50 PM
Wow! I'm touched Dice that's amazing! How long did it take you to make that? I showed it to my roommates. Definitely a cut above.

Wow, I'm famous! :smallwink: It only took an hour or so, since I already had the newspaper background and I modeled the header format on a handout from a previous game.


Can you paste the link into your next post so it is findable for posterity?

Will do.

TekHed
2013-02-13, 02:51 AM
My PM box is getting too close to full and I figure better to message here rather than letting it get lost in your email inbox...

So the other Dark Sun players are still holding (and really amazingly patient to have stuck around this long...like a year or more) but getting restless for the "game on" to be real.

I know there is a lot to get sorted on your end and I reminded them as such, but I responded to some stuff in the game thread about Ma'at and his Sand Golem(s), and I think everyone is waiting for your word on their items and such.

Without putting any pressure on what it is, could you give us an esitmate of your timeline for a start? Just a word here or there letting people know what's up (i.e that you are having houseguests or going on vacay, etc...) greatly helps ease restless player minds. :smallsmile:

PairO'Dice Lost
2013-02-19, 02:25 PM
I'm finally up-to-date with my Playground threads, as you've probably noticed, and should be able to post on Mythweavers tonight about the items and start the game sometime this week. With the other stuff I've had to catch up on, the Dark Sun game kinda got stuck on the back burner and since I don't check it as often I kept forgetting to post a "Don't worry, I'm still alive" message there.

But fear not, I haven't dropped a game yet and don't plan to do so now.

TekHed
2013-02-19, 03:52 PM
I know. The assurances are not for me, they are for the others.

There are a few different private tags for you to check out when catching up, and I need approval for my items, since I would like to make some minor tweaks to them.

TekHed
2013-02-21, 10:36 AM
Could you please pop over to MW and say something? The troops keep grumbling and I keep assurring them, but hearng it from you would mean a lot more than it coming from me. Pretty please? :)

TekHed
2013-05-28, 01:57 AM
Damn. Well over a month. Sorry about that.

Would you be willing to take over my characterization of Ingot? For most of what he knows is better left in DM hands. I can still run him in combat of course.

We can either play out a conversation between the two on the deck of the ship overlooking all of Sharn, or we can skip ahead to the covert meeting with the Phiarlan if you prefer.

PairO'Dice Lost
2013-06-03, 12:35 AM
Sure, I can take over Ingot during infodumps conversations. I think skipping forward to the meeting would be best at this point, but I'll throw in some conversation from Ingot during the montage up to that point. Expect a post in the next few days.

TekHed
2013-06-06, 09:40 PM
Another killer week at work?

Sorry for the drama over in the Masters ooc. Hope that hasn't turned you off from the game.

PairO'Dice Lost
2013-06-06, 10:31 PM
Another killer week at work?

Very much so. We have a deadline coming up next week and half the team is out sick or on vacation, so we're under a teensy bit of pressure.


Sorry for the drama over in the Masters ooc. Hope that hasn't turned you off from the game.

It hasn't, but I'm still a bit annoyed. I'll have a post about that up a bit later tonight. As for this game, it might take me until the weekend to post something, stay tuned.

TekHed
2013-06-06, 10:44 PM
It hasn't, but I'm still a bit annoyed. I'll have a post about that up a bit later tonight. As for this game, it might take me until the weekend to post something, stay tuned.

As I've said before, I'm happy with a more relaxed pace on this one, being it's just you and I. I'd rather you look after Dark Sun, mostly because there's more than me waiting.

Sorry for the annoyance.

TekHed
2013-06-28, 07:56 PM
Just checking in. Have you been able to make any progress here or for DSR?

If I had to guess, I'd say you've been taking some R&R to recover from your grueling work poject...

PairO'Dice Lost
2013-06-28, 10:23 PM
If I had to guess, I'd say you've been taking some R&R to recover from your grueling work poject...

I am indeed. Masters of Nine and RHoD are easier to update right now since I don't need to stat or map anything, but I haven't quite finished everything for Dark Sun and I didn't want to make a big post here until I'd finished with that since more people are waiting on that.

I don't know if I'll have things done in the next few days since I'm going to SF Pride and probably won't be home much all weekend, but I'll do what I can.

TekHed
2013-06-28, 10:48 PM
Pride! I'll be gone all weekend but some of my besties and former flatmates will be there, along with just about everyone else. I was commenting to them on what momentous timing it is that DOMA should be overturned JUST in time for Pride weekend (which also happens to be their anniversary).

Are you by any chance GBT? (I suppose you could very well be L, but I've always assumed you were male...mea culpa if I was mistaken!)

PairO'Dice Lost
2013-06-29, 02:57 AM
Are you by any chance GBT? (I suppose you could very well be L, but I've always assumed you were male...mea culpa if I was mistaken!)

Yes, I'm a dude, as my gender icon indicates, and I play for Team G. My boyfriend and I are very happy about the DOMA decision, and while it's not quite our anniversary it's close enough to party. :smallwink:

TekHed
2013-06-29, 03:32 AM
Duh! Silly Tekhed...profile symbol, of course. :smallsigh: I suppose you could still be T though so I don't completely feel like an idiot.

That's awesome!

Oddly enough we'll probably cross paths...I'll be in San Jose tomorrow for a handbalancing workshop, then I have to drive clear to the other side of the bay because my tax accountant is in Sonoma county...

I play for team er...hetero (which comes with it's own bag of problems), but I'm all for equality. In high school I was in the lunch hour US club, and learned all about the gay rights movement. My best friends who are celebrating their anniversary are Bears. :smallsmile: I kind of fit the bear phenotype, which may expalin why I'm popular with their friends. :smallbiggrin:

And...funny but it seems like many of the coolest gamers I know are all LGBT. There seems to be a thriving subset of queer gamers, especially around these parts. Not sure why there is that correlation.

Anyhow, Happy Anniversary and Pride!

Someday, future generations will look back at this time and be both grateful for our efforts, and also gasp in shock at how bass-ackwards our society really is with these things. It's like...it should never have even been an issue in the first place...

TekHed
2014-06-28, 01:12 AM
1 year we've been on pause. Happy Pride Weekend!