My Little Pony XLIIV: Season II Ruined My Fanon!

[Trixie]

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Trixie's Great and Powerful Guide v1.99e
Ending Edition

Brief Introduction

My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is a reboot of the MLP franchise by Powerpuff Girls artist Lauren Faust, currently viewed by (almost) the entire Internet, not only the intended audience. Here is a place where we discuss the joy of friendship.

> My Little Pony? Seriously?

It's a clever show. It has excellent writing, character dynamics, humor, animation, and generally treats kids seriously rather than condescending to them. It has every right to be a 20 minute corporate committee designed infomercial, but it's not.

> Isn't this a show for little girls?

Pixar technically makes shows for little boys, and produce some of the best animation in the world.

> Okay, fine. I'll give it a try. Where do I start?

No Brony could ask for more. I recommend watching the episodes in order. They're all up on Youtube. Unusually, Hasbro seems fine with having the entire series up in public because they've made no move to bring down any of the episodes. Search for "Friendship is Magic Episode 1" and you should find the series pretty easily... Or search for "Sharing is Magic" Google Doc. That is all.

> Okay, I'm going to watch it but this had better live up to the hype!

Whoa, calm down there. The show is light hearted, optimistic fun but it's not for everyone. It's good fun, the community is good fun, and everyone can do with a reminder that friendship is magic but if it doesn't gel for you we'll love and tolerate you anyway. Plus, you might hit the wrong episode. Ask first?

> Iron Hoof/Fan Theories/Shipping/Binding

All in good fun! If it's not your cup of tea, skim it, but this show has triggered a great creative outpouring from the Internet. Pony themed fan-art is abundant and often excellent. See below for some examples.

> Derpy Hooves/Doctor Whoof

Two minor background characters who were adopted as emblems of 4chan. Derpy Hooves is so named due to an animation error in the first episode that had her eyes facing in different directions; 4chan has assigned her the role of Ponyville's mailpony, and her only line so far has been "Muffins". The show's animators are aware of Derpy's popularity and she's shown up a few times recently with her eyes obviously derped. Currently made canon in Feeling Pinkie Keen and in Faust's picture showcased below, Derpy was deemed important enough to appear in storyboards for Season II.

Dr. Whoof is a pony with an hourglass cutie mark; he and his kin save time and space very quietly off camera.


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General Resources

Fan Fiction and News: Equestria Daily (http://www.equestriadaily.com/)
Discussion Image Forum: Ponychan (http://www.ponychan.net/chan/)
Pony Emotes: FiM Emotes (http://kefkafloyd.imgur.com/J8S59)
More Emotes: MC's Emotes (http://gitpmcerberus.imgur.com/ponymote)
Also Emotes: GD's Emotes (http://gadora.imgur.com/seekret_pony_projekt_1/1)
Pony Images: Ponibooru (http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/list)
More Images: 20% Cooler (http://twentypercentcooler.net/)
Know Your Meme: Ponies! (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic)
Allspark MLP Discussion Thread (http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76678&st=0&start=0)

Art Resources


OC Pony Creation Guide:

>How to make OC Pony (http://ponibooru.413chan.net/_images/048648773b808749ecbcd93b7825d545/22629%20-%20original_character_tutorial%20tutorial.png)<
>How to clothe a Pony (http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/10448a8bf5139a93e47ee0ab2185d577/23650%20-%20Touhou%20artist%3Awhy485%20drawing_guide%20fash ion%20guide%20pony%20tutorial.png)<

Deviant Art Links:

Lauren Faust (http://fyre-flye.deviantart.com/)

14 Bis (http://14-bis.deviantart.com/)
ButterSS (http://buttersc0tchsundae.deviantart.com/)
Csimadmax (http://csimadmax.deviantart.com/)
DonKoRR (http://don-komandorr.deviantart.com/)
Irving Zero (http://irving-zero.deviantart.com/)
Johnjoseco (http://johnjoseco.deviantart.com/)
Kloudmutt (http://kloudmutt.deviantart.com/)
Palestorm (http://palestorm.deviantart.com/)
Shinepaw (http://shinepawpony.deviantart.com/)

>Awesome Great and Powerful Trixie (http://kp-shadowsquirrel.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d49ccgo)<

Tutorials:

How to Draw Luna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YoOgNwPp4)
MLP Art Guides (http://s1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/DJPon-3/)
MLP Colour Guides (http://kefkafloyd.deviantart.com/)

Kloud TV (http://www.livestream.com/kloudmutt)

Concepts:

On the Design of the Mane Cast (http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/107/092/original/122%20-%20applejack%20chart%20fluttershy%20pinkie_pie%20r ainbow_dash%20rarity%20twilight_sparkle.jpg)

Concept art by L. Faust:

AJ/AJ (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtv1PUCI/AAAAAAAABPg/aTDHM_vJ3Ek/Applejack-08.jpg)
Pinkie/Surprise (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtjpEWrI/AAAAAAAABPc/vlcKpVmK1FY/Pinkie_08.jpg)
Rarity/Sparkler (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuba65VI/AAAAAAAABPo/o7oJ1OI4bcE/Rarity_08.jpg)
Twilight/Twinkle (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuS8XZtI/AAAAAAAABPs/9CPSE6Je1Y0/Twilight_08.jpg)
Derpy/Ditzy (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtusFdII/AAAAAAAABPk/4VbhxajIt1o/Derpy_11.jpg)

Group Shot (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zPGxLKSxqsI/Tet-724kmrI/AAAAAAAABoc/74J43JjtvVc/mlplegroupruff.jpg)

5 Best Pictures [IMHO]:

TG&P Trixie 1 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoSj31bI/AAAAAAAABKc/yhAESX1bWDU/129879022202-fim_thebestmagic2.png) 2a (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevesc6Z3I/AAAAAAAABJE/wqYR1YU8-xM/129878791125-Magic_for_Friendship.png) 2b (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoV0tFSI/AAAAAAAABKg/UIrpK2_XUDk/345%20-%20filly%20flower%20Magic%20noel%20Trixie.jpg) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevn1UZNyI/AAAAAAAABJI/JQaTPZ7u9kk/1295392718493.png)
Twilight Sparkle 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQKpEFW1I/AAAAAAAABKo/PJmzRBt_g0o/twilight-%28n1298746506900%29.jpg) 2 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYgEWabUv0I/AAAAAAAABJg/S1emWO9FjbE/1297919269027.png) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQAwKvFvI/AAAAAAAABKk/08Q9f1BaGa0/1298478186234.png)
Rainbow Dash 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tuXX0V5I/AAAAAAAABOE/vPLwNGpCsU8/rainbows_are_awesome_by_adamrbi-d3awtkv.jpg) 2 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tugAF4JI/AAAAAAAABOI/RYGrQCZySJo/1298478713223.jpg) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tutzFrYI/AAAAAAAABOM/QP22FdlygtA/1299129766866.png) 3.6 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-vxE-8GgI/AAAAAAAABOY/ktOwjPQ3eiI/130057856759.png)
Fluttershy 1 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiSMaDSI/AAAAAAAABPQ/FNLXj6WE0ss/yofluttershybyarborishd.png) 2 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiUXQlvI/AAAAAAAABPU/SCs7qzer-6E/129860262040.png) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiWhyIWI/AAAAAAAABPY/r6ClIhygmw0/1297113141466.png)

Pony Games

The most recent one. (http://www.yoyogames.com/games/168448-mlp-fim-the-way-home#)
Pacderpy (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/pacderpy.html)
Two very similar dash based (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/dashattack.html) cloud gathering sidescrollers (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/rainbowdashmini.html)
Pony generator I (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/custompony.html)
Pony generator II (http://derpyhooves.com/games.php?id=3)
Pony generator III (http://generalzoi.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Pony-Creator-Beta-210228500)

New: Pinkie licks cupcakes. (http://yeaka.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Flash-Game-202202384?q=boost%3Apopular%20max_age%3A8h%20frien dship%20is%20magic&qo=22) And a playthrough for it, too. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUy1UtuNet0)
Collect Cupcakes, Lick Ponies! 2.0 (http://yeaka.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Flash-Game-TWO-202342576)

Nice Fanwork


5AMVs:5Always (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhgzpnTYCXQ)Communism is Magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJHZ4E9tRHM)Derpy Cardcaptor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWG0KLSJi8g)[BR]Freeze Ray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMXhEXQSXSw)[BR]I can go the distance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYonN9in668)[BR]Last Unicorn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwT7V_LsRQo)[BR]Lunasong (Not Your Night) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krcJa44GWq8)[BR]Muffins & Bubbles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_y8uRYI8Y)[BR]Pinkie's Brew (EE) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682pneYoP0c)[BR]PonyCraft 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJbAT1wzS8U)[BR]Still Alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za9f1c93FHY)[BR]The Stars Will Aid In Her Escape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV_0n5gp1fE)[BR]The G&P Heretic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4szgPK9Rufw)1Ponies (That are British) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOi3StWmG7A)1[B]Equestria Girls EE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPqjKk_xCo)[BR]Hub Summer Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKjBViIt-y8)[BR]Hop-Skip-Jump [original] (http://soundcloud.com/dannyimusic/mlp1-hop-skip-jump-song)[BR]Smile, Smile, Smile! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFf_rGavnFk)1Old Pony Songs 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHLqc8BSQMg) & 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCpBYLHIEuI)[BR]Ponies! (http://ponyvspony.com/)[BR]5[B]Comics:5The Damn Best Comic (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/359/5/9/pinkiedeadpool_by_csimadmax-d35ms08.jpg). Ever.And The Prequel (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/107/1/f/pinkiedeadpool_origins_by_csimadmax-d3e936w.png).[BR]And part two (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/147/8/b/battle_for_equestria_02_by_csimadmax-d3hdr5c.png).[BR]And three (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/154/2/1/battle_for_equestria_03_by_csimadmax-d3hz63e.png).[BR]And four (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/160/a/f/battle_for_equestria_04_by_csimadmax-d3iighp.png).[BR]And five (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/168/4/0/battle_for_equestria_05_by_csimadmax-d3j5nlu.png).[BR]Six (http://www.deviantart.com/download/256435109/battle_for_equestria_06_by_csimadmax-d48oalh.png) / Seven (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/252/7/6/battle_for_equestria_07_by_csimadmax-d49cgt7.png) / Eight (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/252/0/7/battle_for_equestria_08_by_csimadmax-d49dpsp.png).1Metaponies (http://gavalanche.deviantart.com/gallery/29877487).[BR]5[B]ED Fics:5Twilight Sky Over Canterlot (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-twilight-sky-over-canterlot.html)Sidelines / Midnight's Tale (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/conversion-bureau-compilation.html)[BR]World Without Rainbows (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-world-without-rainbows.html)[BR]Luxury Lotus Spa Follies (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-luxury-lotus-spa-follies.html)[BR]How Lyra Met Bon-Bon (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/02/story-how-lyra-met-bon-bon.html)[BR]Letters from Bubbly (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-letters-from-bubbly-1-10.html)[BR]Swayback Mountain (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-swayback-mountain.html)[BR]And Life Goes On (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-your-greatest-fan.html)[BR]The Three Notes (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-three-notes.html)[BR]TGaP Trixie (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-great-and-powerful-trixie.html)[BR]Antipodes (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-antipodes.html)[BR]Progress (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-progress-luna-versus-microwave.html)[BR]Bubbles (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-bubbles.html)1Pony Drinking Game (http://buttersc0tchsundae.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3cng5n)[BR]|
5[B](Other) Songs:5At The Gala / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSmihuY5ms)Fluttershy's Lullaby / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmDxuMvnehs)[BR]So Many Wonders / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tbt-Z2RwfM)[BR][BR]The French and Powerful Trixie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcpeVg7yMv8)[BR][BR]At The Gala / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlVRN-qePmA)[BR]Art of the Dress / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clm3GjqncJs)[BR]Winter Wrap Up / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfqIEGb2s5w)5[B]GitP Fics:5AmishPirate (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20TheAmishPirate)1Darth BC (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Bobcat)1Deadly (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Adcoon):[BR][BR]Trollestia 1 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/200/0/b/trickster_goddess_nr_1_by_adcoon-d40tt3d.png) 2 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/201/a/4/trickster_goddess_nr_2_by_adcoon-d414fzw.png) 3 (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/214/1/3/trickster_goddess_nr_3_by_adcoon-d42h2hx.png) 4 (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/229/0/d/trickster_goddess_nr_4_by_adcoon-d46vksj.png).1EsperDerek (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20EsperDerek)1Grif (http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Grif)1PhantomFox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20PhantomFox):[BR][BR]Pride Goes Before a Folly (http://phantomfox7.deviantart.com/art/Pride-Goes-Before-A-Folly-211724143)1PhoeKun (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Phoe)1Raz Fox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Raz_Fox)1Thanqol (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Thanqol)[BR]

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Original Batch
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http://i.imgur.com/Hfg2x.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/Hfg2x.gif
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http://i.imgur.com/Jn3vj.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Jn3vj.png
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http://i.imgur.com/KwcDX.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/KwcDX.png
http://i.imgur.com/kpJsp.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/kpJsp.png
http://i.imgur.com/lJFOJ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/lJFOJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/lSNiD.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/lSNiD.png
http://i.imgur.com/lytME.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/lytME.png
http://i.imgur.com/O6p2H.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/O6p2H.png
http://i.imgur.com/OqjNV.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/OqjNV.png
http://i.imgur.com/oGJH8.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/oGJH8.png
http://i.imgur.com/oRBHJ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/oRBHJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/ptAf0.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ptAf0.png
http://i.imgur.com/vZNbC.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/vZNbC.png
http://i.imgur.com/w3dl4.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/w3dl4.png
http://i.imgur.com/XiHXp.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/XiHXp.png
http://i.imgur.com/xk85S.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/xk85S.png
http://i.imgur.com/Z2C9W.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Z2C9W.png
http://i.imgur.com/Z4XPE.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Z4XPE.png
http://i.imgur.com/ZLzTn.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ZLzTn.png
http://i.imgur.com/zFwEx.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/zFwEx.png

Crazy!Twi
http://i.imgur.com/r63WE.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/r63WE.png
http://i.imgur.com/PDKIo.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/PDKIo.png
http://i.imgur.com/viCkZ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/viCkZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/tuSLw.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/tuSLw.png
http://i.imgur.com/U8SiV.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/U8SiV.png
http://i.imgur.com/ZiOZ1.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ZiOZ1.png
http://i.imgur.com/xrtxn.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/xrtxn.png
http://i.imgur.com/WcmCY.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/WcmCY.png
http://i.imgur.com/TzVou.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/TzVou.png
http://i.imgur.com/Sy0s7.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Sy0s7.png
http://i.imgur.com/uvyb4.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/uvyb4.png
http://i.imgur.com/tudfp.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/tudfp.png
http://i.imgur.com/Siwuj.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Siwuj.png
http://i.imgur.com/sp5Tb.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/sp5Tb.png
http://i.imgur.com/vlJi6.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/vlJi6.gif

Kyouhen Series feat. Ninja Pinkie!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/th_NinjaPinkie.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/th_NinjaPinkie.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/NinjaSurprise.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/NinjaSurprise.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/PinkieSwear.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/PinkieSwear.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia2.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia2.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gummicle.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gummicle.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gildicle.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon1.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon2.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon2.png

Misc:

http://i.imgur.com/rs4hd.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/rs4hd.png
http://i.imgur.com/PBYX5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/PBYX5.png
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/272/4/b/liarjack_da_avatar_by_metalbeersolid-d4bc9sj.gifhttp://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/272/4/b/liarjack_da_avatar_by_metalbeersolid-d4bc9sj.gif

Seekrit Pony Projekt
1-20
http://i.imgur.com/03Pwr.png[noparse]http://i.imgur.com/03Pwr.png
http://i.imgur.com/0Mw2v.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/0Mw2v.png
http://i.imgur.com/2u0gC.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/2u0gC.png
http://i.imgur.com/3JXCg.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/3JXCg.png
http://i.imgur.com/3q7O2.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/3q7O2.png
http://i.imgur.com/459jt.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/459jt.png
http://i.imgur.com/4ii5U.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/4ii5U.png
http://i.imgur.com/4XyuH.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/4XyuH.png
http://i.imgur.com/4zrN3.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/4zrN3.png
http://i.imgur.com/6SgQp.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/6SgQp.png
http://i.imgur.com/74j15.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/74j15.png
http://i.imgur.com/7Yvwk.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/7Yvwk.png
http://i.imgur.com/8u4Rl.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/8u4Rl.png
http://i.imgur.com/9SkHu.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/9SkHu.png
http://i.imgur.com/AKUeV.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/AKUeV.png
http://i.imgur.com/Ala5e.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Ala5e.png
http://i.imgur.com/AruGN.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/AruGN.png
http://i.imgur.com/BgqS5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/BgqS5.png
http://i.imgur.com/b5xPJ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/b5xPJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/CEUYj.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/CEUYj.png

21-40
http://i.imgur.com/D4C8X.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/D4C8X.png
http://i.imgur.com/DrSYq.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/DrSYq.png
http://i.imgur.com/dDGKR.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/dDGKR.png
http://i.imgur.com/eCLn3.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/eCLn3.png
http://i.imgur.com/ecXwG.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ecXwG.png
http://i.imgur.com/erYVj.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/erYVj.png
http://i.imgur.com/ev5Dd.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ev5Dd.png
http://i.imgur.com/f2s0G.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/f2s0G.png
http://i.imgur.com/G1lsp.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/G1lsp.png
http://i.imgur.com/G5T9W.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/G5T9W.png
http://i.imgur.com/G8QfD.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/G8QfD.png
http://i.imgur.com/GOn25.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/GOn25.png
http://i.imgur.com/g0EB2.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/g0EB2.png
http://i.imgur.com/HKmyu.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/HKmyu.png
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http://i.imgur.com/hfXmw.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hfXmw.png
http://i.imgur.com/hleys.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hleys.png
http://i.imgur.com/I0AiJ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/I0AiJ.png
41-60
http://i.imgur.com/iSsYc.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/iSsYc.png
http://i.imgur.com/JBZDO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/JBZDO.png
http://i.imgur.com/Ji01D.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Ji01D.png
http://i.imgur.com/jDb4v.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/jDb4v.png
http://i.imgur.com/jhfF7.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/jhfF7.png
http://i.imgur.com/jq6VL.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/jq6VL.png
http://i.imgur.com/KLXX3.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/KLXX3.png
http://i.imgur.com/k7yr1.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/k7yr1.png
http://i.imgur.com/kETPz.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/kETPz.png
http://i.imgur.com/LIUMV.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/LIUMV.png
http://i.imgur.com/LKAKZ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/LKAKZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/Lz5uj.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Lz5uj.png
http://i.imgur.com/l6Dif.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/l6Dif.png
http://i.imgur.com/ldfV9.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ldfV9.png
http://i.imgur.com/lPGoS.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/lPGoS.png
http://i.imgur.com/lT2IO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/lT2IO.png
http://i.imgur.com/mssk8.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/mssk8.png
http://i.imgur.com/NInKh.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/NInKh.png
http://i.imgur.com/O73if.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/O73if.png
http://i.imgur.com/OPCUO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/OPCUO.png

61-80
http://i.imgur.com/o1ROT.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/o1ROT.png
http://i.imgur.com/o3OrQ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/o3OrQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/PgZ79.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/PgZ79.png
http://i.imgur.com/p0HjG.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/p0HjG.png
http://i.imgur.com/pKw2V.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/pKw2V.png
http://i.imgur.com/Qd0KM.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Qd0KM.png
http://i.imgur.com/QLOYp.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/QLOYp.png
http://i.imgur.com/qxCE8.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/qxCE8.png
http://i.imgur.com/rytqf.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/rytqf.png
http://i.imgur.com/SSEx1.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/SSEx1.png
http://i.imgur.com/s1GzN.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/s1GzN.png
http://i.imgur.com/tFh1l.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/tFh1l.png
http://i.imgur.com/tVg4z.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/tVg4z.png
http://i.imgur.com/twJKI.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/twJKI.png
http://i.imgur.com/us0sn.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/us0sn.png
http://i.imgur.com/uwvgS.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/uwvgS.png
http://i.imgur.com/VgP1Y.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/VgP1Y.png
http://i.imgur.com/VlAck.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/VlAck.png
http://i.imgur.com/VNjBL.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/VNjBL.png
http://i.imgur.com/Vthb5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Vthb5.png

81-100
http://i.imgur.com/VYSqq.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/VYSqq.png
http://i.imgur.com/vbM5o.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/vbM5o.png
http://i.imgur.com/W0vnZ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/W0vnZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/w4Pts.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/w4Pts.png
http://i.imgur.com/RYTpi.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/RYTpi.png
http://i.imgur.com/wQyc8.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/wQyc8.png
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http://i.imgur.com/XzZ1f.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/XzZ1f.png
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http://i.imgur.com/y50oz.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/y50oz.png
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http://i.imgur.com/ZHvPK.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ZHvPK.png
http://i.imgur.com/ZOCXB.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ZOCXB.png
http://i.imgur.com/zhFvk.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/zhFvk.png
http://i.imgur.com/zRC21.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/zRC21.png
http://i.imgur.com/zw5OF.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/zw5OF.png

101-112
http://i.imgur.com/Tqo43.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Tqo43.png
http://i.imgur.com/MPjbO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/MPjbO.png
http://i.imgur.com/shj2N.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/shj2N.png
http://i.imgur.com/1h9Zx.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/1h9Zx.png
http://i.imgur.com/EK1lN.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/EK1lN.png
http://i.imgur.com/qW2jc.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/qW2jc.png
http://i.imgur.com/NcSma.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/NcSma.png
http://i.imgur.com/JpnZc.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/JpnZc.png
http://i.imgur.com/fsqkv.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/fsqkv.png
http://i.imgur.com/CgffQ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/CgffQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/VwCqN.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/VwCqN.png
http://i.imgur.com/hwHGZ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hwHGZ.png

113-124 (Luna Series)

http://i.imgur.com/Mm1dn.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Mm1dn.png
http://i.imgur.com/gN9Ou.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/gN9Ou.png
http://i.imgur.com/rW0xK.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/rW0xK.png
http://i.imgur.com/rzrj5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/rzrj5.png
http://i.imgur.com/s8D5o.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/s8D5o.png
http://i.imgur.com/lEtTg.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/lEtTg.png
http://i.imgur.com/KXIJq.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/KXIJq.png
http://i.imgur.com/oRdYJ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/oRdYJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/hNTy5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hNTy5.png
http://i.imgur.com/KyWk8.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/KyWk8.png
http://i.imgur.com/ZeYyu.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ZeYyu.png
http://i.imgur.com/L3ZSw.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L3ZSw.png
125-136 (Sweetie Series)
http://i.imgur.com/Jg8wb.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Jg8wb.png
http://i.imgur.com/9KKKz.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/9KKKz.png
http://i.imgur.com/KjRiq.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/KjRiq.png
http://i.imgur.com/pteUs.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/pteUs.png
http://i.imgur.com/o0V8z.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/o0V8z.png
http://i.imgur.com/mUwFV.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/mUwFV.png
http://i.imgur.com/T9hVn.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/T9hVn.png
http://i.imgur.com/EkuTB.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/EkuTB.png
http://i.imgur.com/lVPd8.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/lVPd8.png
http://i.imgur.com/0GUM4.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/0GUM4.png
http://i.imgur.com/cCNvw.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/cCNvw.png
http://i.imgur.com/4mTcY.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/4mTcY.png




Deadly's Ironically Presented Spoiler B GONE:

DO YOU HATE SPOILER TAGS?

Well, Deadly's here to help you get rid of them... with a vengeance! Create a new bookmark in your browser and copy the code below as the link/url of said bookmark. Name it something helpful, like "Spoilers B GONE!" or whatever. Then whenever you view a thread here on GitP you just hit the bookmark and BAM! no more spoilers.

You won't even see the boxes, just the bare innards in all their gory glory.

It also makes sure that no image is wider than 600px, to avoid stretching pages, and will attempt to "intelligently" remove repeated images except avatars. Neat, huh? Sadly that last part means stuff like pony emotes may get lost but the forum doesn't make it easy for me to single out images in quotes as I'd have liked... that's an open problem, I guess.

Tested in Firefox, Chrome and Opera. Should work in any modern browser, but you never know with these things.


javascript:(function() { var a = document.getElementsByTagName('div'); for (var i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { if (a[i].className == 'spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'block'; a[i].className = ''; } else if (a[i].className == 'pre-spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'none'; }} var ims = new Array(); var tmp; a = document.getElementsByTagName('img'); for (i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { tmp = a[i].parentNode.className ; if (ims.indexOf(a[i].getAttribute('src')) == -1) { ims.push(a[i].getAttribute('src')); a[i].style.maxWidth = '600px'; } else if (tmp != 'avataroverflow' && tmp != 'alt2') { a[i].style.display = 'none' ; }}})();

If you don't mind repeated images, here's a version that leaves them be.

javascript:(function() { var a = document.getElementsByTagName('div'); for (var i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { if (a[i].className == 'spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'block'; a[i].className = ''; } else if (a[i].className == 'pre-spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'none'; }} a = document.getElementsByTagName('img'); for (i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { a[i].style.maxWidth = '600px'; }})();

[Trixie]

Have some one pics:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/114/2/e/queen_chrysalis_by_ladyavali-d4xhdhj.jpg

[Thanqol]

Let's kick this thread off with

Thanqol's Fabulous (and totally stolen) CONTEST!

Pick some random object in your house. That object is now a pony's cutie mark. Tell me a story about how that pony got that cutie mark.

There will be fabulous prizes!

(And I'm suddenly reminded of my last promised prize distributions, I'll get on those tomorrow hopefully)

[SlyGuyMcFly]

Have some pics:

http://e621.net/data/8e/dc/8edc390c9ba16ee2de6884576c88a2be.png
http://e621.net/data/35/89/3589ab5818fc633c44ceea9eaa7ae675.png
http://e621.net/data/2e/cc/2ecc33f52799f8098d0a685c178d9c3a.png
http://e621.net/data/87/ea/87ea430962cd5c574cad3c3db272852a.png
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/114/2/e/queen_chrysalis_by_ladyavali-d4xhdhj.jpg

Top four images are broked. Looks like this e621 place is touchy about hotlinking images.

[Trixie]

Ah, in this case I ran into issue from last thread. Oh well, they're worth copy/pasting, thought let me think of some remedy for this ^^"

[SlyGuyMcFly]

Ah, in this case I ran into issue from last thread. Oh well, they're worth copy/pasting, thought let me think of some remedy for this ^^"

I just re-uploaded them to my Imgur account and called it a day.

[Trixie]

Eh, can't really do it now. Have some fixed pics:

Luna (http://e621.net/data/8e/dc/8edc390c9ba16ee2de6884576c88a2be.png)
Spike (http://e621.net/data/35/89/3589ab5818fc633c44ceea9eaa7ae675.png)
Cadence (http://e621.net/data/2e/cc/2ecc33f52799f8098d0a685c178d9c3a.png)
Everypony (http://e621.net/data/87/ea/87ea430962cd5c574cad3c3db272852a.png)

[Grif]

First page!

[Trixie]

So, anypony up for posting some 'abandon thread' pics on last one?

I would, but doubleposting and all.

[Beacon of Chaos]

I can post some if you really want :P

Also, I can see those pics from earlier just fine. Or did you fix the links already?

Also, yay new thread!

[Aotrs Commander]

So, why is it that the week my internet goes out, ponythread shoots along like Derpy after muffins and the moment I get it back, everypony disappears...?

(Wait, it's just the typical Friday slowdown, isn't it? Ah, I dunno whether I'm coming or going at the moment...)

[Silverraptor]

Hey ever pony.

*Yawn*

Well, I wasn't allowed to go to sleep at all last night, due to a special doctor check up a little later today. So how I kept myself awake was watching all the episodes of season 2, or atleast most of them last night. While watching, I realized that there are episodes are a different chronological order than what they actually showed, similar to how some episodes in season 1 were out of order. The signs were harder to tell, but they were there.

The one that caught my attention the most was (I think) the spike greed one. Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy both grab Rarity's ruined cape from the water to catch something. While flying, Fluttershy starts to fall behind but then glances at Rainbow dash and then proceeds to fly faster and harder, similar to the Hurricane Fluttershy episode that appears 10+ episodes later.

I know there were others, but I can't think of any now.

Too tired. Want sleep.

Want...sleep...

grrr... stupid doctor check up...

[Kd7sov]

There is a thing I want to know.

Why does this fandom seem so fascinated with Chrysalis? She is explicitly a villain who gains in power as she is the object of love. She didn't come even as close to success as either Nightmare Moon or Discord. And yet, even without going into the changeling groups on dA or the drawfriends on EqD, I am pretty sure I've seen more fanart of her in the last week than of either of those others since their debuts.

[Beacon of Chaos]

She's a cool looking villain? That's the only reason I need, really.


So, last thread we established that Pinkie Pie is Heavy Weapons Pony, thanks to her use of Sahsa Twilight the Minigun.

But...
http://chzbronies.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-sandvich-is-best-poni.png

[Athaniar]

New thread is good thread.


There is a thing I want to know.

Why does this fandom seem so fascinated with Chrysalis? She is explicitly a villain who gains in power as she is the object of love. She didn't come even as close to success as either Nightmare Moon or Discord. And yet, even without going into the changeling groups on dA or the drawfriends on EqD, I am pretty sure I've seen more fanart of her in the last week than of either of those others since their debuts.
First, she has a unique, intimidating, and alien design, that'd explain much of the art. Second, she is a true villain, the third credible threat to Equestria (unless I'm forgetting someone) after Nightmare Moon and Discord, and unlike the latter she's as serious and threatening as some G1 villains were (not to mention she's smart, charismatic, etc). Of course, your mileage may vary, but all in all, she was a very pleasant surprise for the fanbase.

[Trixie]

Why does this fandom seem so fascinated with Chrysalis? She is explicitly a villain who gains in power as she is the object of love. She didn't come even as close to success as either Nightmare Moon or Discord. And yet, even without going into the changeling groups on dA or the drawfriends on EqD, I am pretty sure I've seen more fanart of her in the last week than of either of those others since their debuts.

Successful? Chrysalis came within one application of Cutie Mark to occupying all of Equestria, going against ancient McGuffins, millennia old sorceresses, and entire Canterlot military. Compared to that, Nightmare Moon lost to 6 teenagers after ruling old, ruined castle for 10 minutes (and if they failed, we don't even know if she would have been capable of defeating Celestia supported by army). Awesome voice and design, though. Discord? Was an idiot who basically ignored multiple cues he is about to lose, or didn't do any of two dozen simple things that would have granted him instant victory. Had he been voiced by someone unknown, he would have been rated worst villain of whole of MLP, IMHO.

But most important thing? She is Kathleen Barr :smallamused:

[Maxtronaut]

Question:

Is this thread located within the normal realms of space-time?

[Maxtronaut]

Let's kick this thread off with

Thanqol's Fabulous (and totally stolen) CONTEST!

Pick some random object in your house. That object is now a pony's cutie mark. Tell me a story about how that pony got that cutie mark.

There will be fabulous prizes!

(And I'm suddenly reminded of my last promised prize distributions, I'll get on those tomorrow hopefully)

2 words: challenge accepted.

[Jahkaivah]

I like ponies.

[Trixie]

So, last thread we established that Pinkie Pie is Heavy Weapons Pony, thanks to her use of Sahsa Twilight the Minigun.

I don't know, it looked like ManPonyMelter spam than any of the miniguns to me. It wasn't hitscan for one :smalltongue:


Is this thread located within the normal realms of space-time?

I'd rate it being 20% to the left of between-season greyspace http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg

[MCerberus]

Question:

Is this thread located within the normal realms of space-time?

The bolded words never mix, so going to say no.


Also, RIP recurring ponythread name joke. Ever since ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE have you been with is.

[Kyouhen]

There is a thing I want to know.

Why does this fandom seem so fascinated with Chrysalis? She is explicitly a villain who gains in power as she is the object of love. She didn't come even as close to success as either Nightmare Moon or Discord. And yet, even without going into the changeling groups on dA or the drawfriends on EqD, I am pretty sure I've seen more fanart of her in the last week than of either of those others since their debuts.

For me there's a few reasons. First, and probably best, is that she's easily the most evil of the three villains we've seen. Nightmare Moon was acting entirely out of jealousy. Discord's too obsessed with having his fun. Chrysalis? She's a creature who feeds on love. It's in her nature to kidnap those you love and replace them. Her motivation for being evil is that it's an inherent trait of changelings, which the other two were more just their personality.

Second, as has already been mentioned, is her character design. This is closer to the type of villain everyone thought Discord was going to be when we first heard about him. Pony insects are just creepy. I also loved the way they handled her movement, she's like Rainbow Dash in that she rarely walks. Instead she keeps buzzing around every few feet, and even when she's walking if her wings are out they're flapping.

Third is her appearance. I went into this episode expecting something closer to Best Night Ever. Instead I got a new villain who commands her own army. That and the big reveal for her was SO. AWESOME. http://i.imgur.com/Dy4NS.jpg

[MCerberus]

Chrysalis is also adora-evil when her expression softens too.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Chrysalis is popular because of awesome design, awesome voicework, awesome-ish storyline, and general villainy epicness. More importantly, she is something new that combines all of the above, so it's small wonder she's so prevalent in art and things at this point. Once the novelty wears off (I give it a month), she'll fall in line with the rest of the cast.

Also, I believe we're currently out of the bar outside of time, so conventional physics and causality are back in effect... for those around here who actually care about conventional physics and causality.
...which brings to mind the question.

Where is Tanghol?

[Alabenson]

Question:

Is this thread located within the normal realms of space-time?

It probably was at one point, but prolonged exposure to things like this haven't helped matters.

http://archer.gamebanana.com/img/ss/sprays/4ef27b0905c74.jpg
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110930130423/halo/images/f/f6/Pinkie_Pie_4th_Wall.png
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/b3d6adfac1ca3da3201666d5921c628a/113094%20-%204th_wall%20brony%20glass%20macro%20meme%20pinki e_pie%20pony.jpg
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/014/9/c/pinkie_pie___4th_wall_by_cptofthefriendship-d4mdrlt.png

[thubby]

*sniffs*
new ponythread smell.

[otakuryoga]

Eh, can't really do it now. Have some fixed pics:


Cadence (http://e621.net/data/2e/cc/2ecc33f52799f8098d0a685c178d9c3a.png)

now that is a truly devious and major villian worthy plan
Chrysalis didn't just leave Twilight down there after taunting her..she changed into the "real" Cadance while a minor changeling became "Cadance/Chrysalis"
Brilliant..the good guys vanquish the baddie and all is well..except they now totally accept the real baddie as 100% legit and give her exactly what she wanted........



There is a thing I want to know.

Why does this fandom seem so fascinated with Chrysalis? She is explicitly a villain who gains in power as she is the object of love. She didn't come even as close to success as either Nightmare Moon or Discord. And yet, even without going into the changeling groups on dA or the drawfriends on EqD, I am pretty sure I've seen more fanart of her in the last week than of either of those others since their debuts.
well written(for the most part..she had to be handed the idiot ball regarding the power of love being able to stop her)
but alot of it is the awesome character design, someone touched on it in the last thread that her design hits the pony uncanny valley.. she is obviously a pony..but just as obviously there is something NOT RIGHT about her looks..unlike discord who was completely NOT a pony, or NMM who was a pimped out pony like Celestia
and there is just a touch of what lixxie said..she is Trixie(or as close as we are likely to get :smallfrown: )

[MCerberus]

well written(for the most part..she had to be handed the idiot ball regarding the power of love being able to stop her)
but alot of it is the awesome character design, someone touched on it in the last thread that her design hits the pony uncanny valley.. she is obviously a pony..but just as obviously there is something NOT RIGHT about her looks..unlike discord who was completely NOT a pony, or NMM who was a pimped out pony like Celestia
and there is just a touch of what lixxie said..she is Trixie(or as close as we are likely to get :smallfrown: )

ETA on Trixie/Chrysalis ship fic?

[SlyGuyMcFly]

Chrysalis is also adora-evil when her expression softens too.

She's super-adorable here:

http://i.imgur.com/JLgVc.png

[darthbobcat]

Let's kick this thread off with

Thanqol's Fabulous (and totally stolen) CONTEST!

Pick some random object in your house. That object is now a pony's cutie mark. Tell me a story about how that pony got that cutie mark.

There will be fabulous prizes!

(And I'm suddenly reminded of my last promised prize distributions, I'll get on those tomorrow hopefully)

His name is Ted. Like Apple Bloom and friends, he was a late bloomer. Unlike those three, he got no hints from his name, as his parents had named him after a Griffon friend, so he didn't even know where to start. He tried everything. Then, one day, he went with his parents to Cookware and Hammocks and he saw... it.

It was the perfect frycook's spatula. (http://axecop.com/index.php/acepisodes/read/episode_1/)He could use it to fight crime! Donning a set of dark sunglasses and growing his best 70s moustache, he changed his name to Spatula Cop. He now defends Ponyville from all who threaten it!

... since there were no crimes or disasters in Ponyville until Twilight Sparkle showed up, he paid the bills by being a fry cook.

[Soras Teva Gee]

I'm going to go more meta on Chrysalis' popularity.

Of the three major characters introduced in the finale Chrysalis is the one we didn't know about in advance. And a fair percentage of us if not exactly dislike have reasons to not latch onto to Cadence and Shining. A new Alicorn and previously unmentioned Mane 6 sibling sound right out of a fanfic. Also we've known of them since what, the start of the year. They're almost old hat, particularly in art because all the bases have been long covered.

Now add to the mix that (and we should have expected it) that the finale turned out great. And enthusiasm for episodes tends to be channeled into characters at the center of those episodes. Only while done with the same sort of utter quality we expect from this show, Cadence and Shining do nothing truly surprising as characters. And by being known they already feel familiar. Chrysalis though is new (and therefore mysterious) to everypony so all the enthusiasm flows directly to her by default.

[Kairaven]

My theory is that the fandom is trying to feed her more love so her power will grow to a point where the space time barrier will shatter, allowing ponies (or in this case, changling ponies) into our universe.

[Alabenson]

So, why is it that the week my internet goes out, ponythread shoots along like Derpy after muffins and the moment I get it back, everypony disappears...?

I'd think you'd be accustomed to having ponies flee from you.
What with you being a violent space-lich and all.

[erikun]

There is a thing I want to know.

Why does this fandom seem so fascinated with Chrysalis? She is explicitly a villain who gains in power as she is the object of love. She didn't come even as close to success as either Nightmare Moon or Discord. And yet, even without going into the changeling groups on dA or the drawfriends on EqD, I am pretty sure I've seen more fanart of her in the last week than of either of those others since their debuts.
I don't know, honestly. I'm not really swept up into the Chrysalis fandom as most other people.

Part of the problem for me is just that she didn't have very clear motivations. Yes, she wanted to take over Equestria for her changelings. And then, she wanted to marry Shining Armor, because... she liked the idea of being married? I mean, she points out that she doesn't even like him, but still lists being married to him as one of her top goals. Do zombified ponies really produce that much love?

Not that that was one of her goals anyways - she had no idea how much power she'd gained from Shining Armor at the time, and was primarily controlling him to drop the shield.

[darthbobcat]

I don't know, honestly. I'm not really swept up into the Chrysalis fandom as most other people.

Part of the problem for me is just that she didn't have very clear motivations. Yes, she wanted to take over Equestria for her changelings. And then, she wanted to marry Shining Armor, because... she liked the idea of being married? I mean, she points out that she doesn't even like him, but still lists being married to him as one of her top goals. Do zombified ponies really produce that much love?

Not that that was one of her goals anyways - she had no idea how much power she'd gained from Shining Armor at the time, and was primarily controlling him to drop the shield.

She sorta strikes me as the type of fantasy villain whose motivation is "because it's my nature to want your downfall." Considering she's part of a race of shapeshifters who feed of human pony emotions, asking her "why did you do that to Cadance" would be like asking a shark why it's busy chowing down on your leg.

And that's perfectly fine. Not all villains need to be nuanced. In fact, it's sort of refreshing now and again to have a truly evil villain.

Also, sorry if this has already been posted: a songified version of my favorite episode of all time of the week. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q49-hrqNYJg&feature=relmfu)

[SlyGuyMcFly]

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Part of the problem for me is just that she didn't have very clear motivations. Yes, she wanted to take over Equestria for her changelings. And then, she wanted to marry Shining Armor, because... she liked the idea of being married? I mean, she points out that she doesn't even like him, but still lists being married to him as one of her top goals. Do zombified ponies really produce that much love?

Evulz, basically. Marrying Shining Armor is the figurative tea-bagging that'll make her victory all the more sweet. She also wants him because he's at armhoof's reach and she's petty and greedy like that. At least that's the vibe I get from This Day Aria.

[Kyouhen]

I don't know, honestly. I'm not really swept up into the Chrysalis fandom as most other people.

Part of the problem for me is just that she didn't have very clear motivations. Yes, she wanted to take over Equestria for her changelings. And then, she wanted to marry Shining Armor, because... she liked the idea of being married? I mean, she points out that she doesn't even like him, but still lists being married to him as one of her top goals. Do zombified ponies really produce that much love?

Not that that was one of her goals anyways - she had no idea how much power she'd gained from Shining Armor at the time, and was primarily controlling him to drop the shield.

I have two possible theories on the marriage thing. The first is that once he's married other fillies will (ideally) leave him alone. No competition.

The second theory is that after the wedding they get the honeymoon. A nice stretch of time where the bride and groom can vanish without anyone asking questions or looking for them? Sounds good to me!

Though really I think she's just being evil about it. Marriage is supposed to be held in high regard, and in an ideal world like Equestria that's more than likely true. She just likes the idea of claiming Shining Armour for herself then sealing the deal with a marriage before she goes and crushed Canterlot. Especially since my first two theories are largely discredited by the fact that her army was sitting outside the force field during the wedding.

[Alabenson]

Evulz, basically. Marrying Shining Armor is the figurative tea-bagging that'll make her victory all the more sweet. She also wants him because he's at armhoof's reach and she's petty and greedy like that. At least that's the vibe I get from This Day Aria.

This. In my opinion, Chrysalis is the show's first truly sadistic villian; strictly speaking she didn't need to actually marry Shining Armor to accomplish her goals, she was doing it because it would maximise the amount of suffering she could inflict.

[erikun]

She sorta strikes me as the type of fantasy villain whose motivation is "because it's my nature to want your downfall." Considering she's part of a race of shapeshifters who feed of human pony emotions, asking her "why did you do that to Cadance" would be like asking a shark why it's busy chowing down on your leg.
Eh, perhaps. But interesting villains have interesting motivations. Tell me how is more interesting - Cruella de Vil, even with the silly motivation of just making a new coat, or the Jaws shark, that is just "following its nature" to attack people?

Not that card-carrying villainy can't be amusing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIf2JxfMA4Q), but it makes for better scenes than characters.

[Kd7sov]

Successful? Chrysalis came within one application of Cutie Mark to occupying all of Equestria, going against ancient McGuffins, millennia old sorceresses, and entire Canterlot military. Compared to that, Nightmare Moon lost to 6 teenagers after ruling old, ruined castle for 10 minutes (and if they failed, we don't even know if she would have been capable of defeating Celestia supported by army). Awesome voice and design, though. Discord? Was an idiot who basically ignored multiple cues he is about to lose, or didn't do any of two dozen simple things that would have granted him instant victory. Had he been voiced by someone unknown, he would have been rated worst villain of whole of MLP, IMHO.

But most important thing? She is Kathleen Barr :smallamused:

In which I explain my use of terminology.
Nightmare Moon did, as far as we have been able to determine, usurp Celestia and put her out of the picture. She brought about her desired night, and seemed under no compulsion to remove it no matter how long it lasted. During her time in power, she was attempting to remove the greatest known threat to her reign. And as for ten minutes: what we saw was nearly twenty minutes. There's plenty of space for extra time to have elapsed between, say, the library and the forest, the cliffs and the manticore, the manticore and the trees, the river and the chasm... We could reasonably posit spans up to a few days, which is considerably more than ten minutes.

Discord, as far as can be determined, was successful from the moment the ponies reached the maze. From that point on he was toying with them, wearing down their effectiveness as the only known threat to his power, and incidentally reshaping reality however he felt like. He is fundamentally not designed for continued governance or understanding order and bonds, so when the tables were turned he was defeated, but he did take poewr and hold it pretty much undisputed until then. Success, however temporary, on both counts.

Chrysalis, by contrast, caused panic within Canterlot for maybe a few hours. The exact timespan is unclear, but it probably started no earlier than midmorning and ended with enough time for some cleanup and a wedding before sunset. Yes, she defeated Celestia, but there's no evidence she had any power over Equestria at large at any point, beyond her emotional manipulations as Cadence. Her goal, according to her monologue, was to provide food - love - for her subjects, which as far as I can tell didn't happen at all. So... maybe slight success, if we're willing to be generous.

Really, Discord's biggest flaw is that he didn't sing.

(Speaking of, when are we going to hear Applejack sing in a song that doesn't have all the rest of the mane six singing too?)

[erikun]

(Speaking of, when are we going to hear Applejack sing in a song that doesn't have all the rest of the mane six singing too?)
I'm sure we'll see that in the episode she gets where she isn't upstaged by somepony else.
Right, Hasbro?
http://i.imgur.com/tVg4z.png

[Soras Teva Gee]

(Speaking of, when are we going to hear Applejack sing in a song that doesn't have all the rest of the mane six singing too?)

When they hire a separate voice actress who can sing in an "AJ voice" because Ashleigh Ball cannot. At present singing AJ would be singing Dash.

Which is why even in Winter Wrap-Up and At The Gala AJ speaks rather then really sings.

[Nameless]

Late reply is late. I blame the forum refusing to function.


*Glompyhugs Nameless*

Doesn't look like you've missed a thing, you've pretty much summed up the general post-ep breakdown already :smalltongue:

*is glomphug'd*
Yay~ http://i.imgur.com/aRDpW.png

I'm seriously happy that these episodes were so good, I was worried they'd be a let down.
Not quite sure what I'll do with myself until season 3 though... http://i.imgur.com/2c0gc.png


I'm sure we'll see that in the episode she gets where she isn't upstaged by somepony else.
Right, Hasbro?
http://i.imgur.com/tVg4z.png

Not is somepony else has something to say about it...


Haters gonna hate...
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnaq6hr9i11qlvmijo1_500.png

http://i.imgur.com/gMCGS.png






On an unrelated topic:

*Submits essay on MLP through online submission system*
"Please enter any comments you wish to make about this assignment."

Dear Princess Celestia,

My essay is 74 words over the 10%+ word limit (324 words over the initial word limit). Please don't fail me.

Your faithful student,
Tom


My lecturer now watches MLP. http://i.imgur.com/9QvF1.png

[Deadly]

About Chrysalis' design, I'm noticing this strange effect where I find the fan art of her much more appealing than her actual appearance in the show. In the show her face is possibly the only thing that I really like. I think the main detraction is just how freakishly tall and thin she is in the show. In most fan depictions she seems smaller and it makes a huge difference.

[PhantomFox]

Top 3 nominations for Funniest Moment
Must be Crackle's cousin...: 4
Oh Come ON!: 4
Pinkie - Weapon of Mass Annoyance: 3

Okay, everyone seems to be done with the nominations for that, so let's move on. Let's try a more personal category.


Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!

[maximus25]

New thread, new stuff to talk about?

[Merellis]

Top 3 nominations for Funniest Moment
Must be Crackle's cousin...: 4
Oh Come ON!: 4
Pinkie - Weapon of Mass Annoyance: 3

Okay, everyone seems to be done with the nominations for that, so let's move on. Let's try a more personal category.


Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!

Is there a criteria for Best? Because I was amused the entire time during her descent into madness throughout the events of Lesson Zero.

Though my top ones are...

Twilight Sparkle with her Future Self (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEBfzKNH_Jc)
Twilight Sparkle gushing about her Starswirl the Bearded costume (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-WMBOBuPeo)
And the entire fight for the book in the Season 2 opener. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=obuxVk5f6Nw)

[Kd7sov]

Top 3 nominations for Funniest Moment
Must be Crackle's cousin...: 4
Oh Come ON!: 4
Pinkie - Weapon of Mass Annoyance: 3

Okay, everyone seems to be done with the nominations for that, so let's move on. Let's try a more personal category.


Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!

Twilight Sparkle Moment nominations:

This is MY BOOK! And I'm gonna READ IT!
Disaster-proofing Equestria
Do it for Equestria! Do it for Rainbow Dash! Do it for yourself!

[Kairaven]

When they hire a separate voice actress who can sing in an "AJ voice" because Ashleigh Ball cannot. At present singing AJ would be singing Dash.

Which is why even in Winter Wrap-Up and At The Gala AJ speaks rather then really sings.

.....

I am sure you have heard Ashleigh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nhssMi2FtA) sing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dz73dsMAkE) right (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTk6eY9EY5g)? Her (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5e8On2p5Uw) normal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LbK0Bj_cw) voice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_yg9ZJcuxw) is closer to AJ 's then Dash's.

They can easily have just AJ singing. It hasn't happened for the same reason that AJ centric episode hasn't really happened.




edit: did anypony remember that Ashleigh was asking for pixel artists a while back? I wonder if this is what she wanted one for? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDd2z_NiuzE)

[OracleofWuffing]

Dang it, Pony thread! I'm not even finished reading the thread from two threads ago yet! Well, at least now we won't have any more Season II Ruined My Fanon thread name suggestions in the future. :smalltongue:

Regarding Chrysalis and her fan base? Well, she's queen of the changelings. Obviously, her fans are changelings in disguise.

E: I for one welcome our new changeling overlords.

Best Twilight Sparkle Moment nominations:
Dispel Magic Machine Gun
HERE COMES TOM
Investigation on the MMMystery on the Friendship Express.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Random silly thought:

Somewhere, on private Studio B or Hasbro discussion boards, there might be a scriptwriters' thread titled "Fanon ruined my Season 2!".

[SlyGuyMcFly]

Though my top ones are...

Twilight Sparkle with her Future Self (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEBfzKNH_Jc)

Gotta second this one. It's distilled essense of Twilight.


Random silly thought:

Somewhere, on private Studio B or Hasbro discussion boards, there might be a scriptwriters' thread titled "Fanon ruined my Season 2!".

I laughed. :smallbiggrin:

[Alabenson]

Top 3 nominations for Funniest Moment
Must be Crackle's cousin...: 4
Oh Come ON!: 4
Pinkie - Weapon of Mass Annoyance: 3

Okay, everyone seems to be done with the nominations for that, so let's move on. Let's try a more personal category.


Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!

My two nominations for Best Twilight Sparkle are:
I'm going to do what I do best; Lecture her. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHLmSkeqmrY)
and
Twlight has a seizure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qp68Ia-p9Q)

[Raz_Fox]

So, I nearly made the worst faux pas ever. http://i.imgur.com/DrMmg.png

I checked Ponythread while still bleary-eyed and wild-haired in the morning, and I saw Trixie's last post in the old thread, and for some reason I interpreted it as saying, "Here's the new thread, which isn't called "Season II Ruined My Fanon" but "So Long And Thanks For All The Ponies!" Aaaand the fact that the old thread was a Douglas Adams reference hopped right out of my head.

I was halfway through an angry "Trixie everyone wanted Season II Ruined My Fanon why do we even bother voting on it if Trixie names it whatever she wants" when I realized that it was Season II Ruined My Fanon and I was being a derpy pony. http://i.imgur.com/KwcDX.png

So, uh, sorry for assuming the worst of you first thing in the morning, Trixie. http://i.imgur.com/2u0gC.png


There is a thing I want to know.

Why does this fandom seem so fascinated with Chrysalis? She is explicitly a villain who gains in power as she is the object of love. She didn't come even as close to success as either Nightmare Moon or Discord. And yet, even without going into the changeling groups on dA or the drawfriends on EqD, I am pretty sure I've seen more fanart of her in the last week than of either of those others since their debuts.

Well-


Chrysalis is popular because of awesome design, awesome voicework, awesome-ish storyline, and general villainy epicness. More importantly, she is something new that combines all of the above, so it's small wonder she's so prevalent in art and things at this point. Once the novelty wears off (I give it a month), she'll fall in line with the rest of the cast.

Yeah, that. Her design? Something new, unprecedented, and very fae-like, which always adds points in my book. She oozes style, she's scary and alien and you want to draw all the pictures of her. Her voice? Exactly the quality that we'd expect from our previous two epic villains; her duet, as well, is spectacular - my favorite out of the entire season. Her reveal? Unexpected, dramatic and is the second milestone on the peak of sheer awesomeness that began at the duet. Her villainy? She invaded Canterlot, improvised half of her plan and still ended up nearly on top, and did it all stylishly, to boot.


Part of the problem for me is just that she didn't have very clear motivations. Yes, she wanted to take over Equestria for her changelings. And then, she wanted to marry Shining Armor, because... she liked the idea of being married? I mean, she points out that she doesn't even like him, but still lists being married to him as one of her top goals. Do zombified ponies really produce that much love?

Not that that was one of her goals anyways - she had no idea how much power she'd gained from Shining Armor at the time, and was primarily controlling him to drop the shield.

My theory about the marriage to Shining Armor, which I think I picked up earlier in the thread, is that the wedding vows would have solidified her hold on him through magic, and allowed her to have the keystone of Canterlot's forces in her grasp. The theory has no basis in what the show says, I must admit, but given the faelike nature of the changlings... a fox can dream, can't he?

I will admit that the theory "Chrysalis is just that cruel" has some traction, as well.


Top 3 nominations for Funniest Moment
Must be Crackle's cousin...: 4
Oh Come ON!: 4
Pinkie - Weapon of Mass Annoyance: 3

Okay, everyone seems to be done with the nominations for that, so let's move on. Let's try a more personal category.


Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!

Best Twilight Sparkle Moment?

"I'm going to do what I do best: LECTURE HER!"



Incidentally, would anyone like to hear my thoughts on the finale, or has the period of relevancy passed?

[Sean Mirrsen]

As for favorite Twilight moments, mine would probably be the Temporal Twin Twilights sequence. It's Twilight being Twilight, Times Two.

[Alabenson]

Incidentally, would anyone like to hear my thoughts on the finale, or has the period of relevancy passed?

Ponythread has periods of relevancy? :smalltongue: I say go for it!

[Kairaven]

The best thing about FIM episodes is that even now, there are still new things to be found and speculated upon on rewatch. Period of relevancy?!? pft, when has logic and relevancy ever come close to Ponythread.



edit: Hey Ocean's new album cover arts has a horse... (sneaky reference?)

[Aotrs Commander]

So, I nearly made the worst faux pas ever. http://i.imgur.com/DrMmg.png

Ah, dear Raz, bringing new meaning to the phrase "hoof and mouth." You're almost as good at it as SiuiS...!


Incidentally, would anyone like to hear my thoughts on the finale, or has the period of relevancy passed?

I was not aware opinions had an expiration date...

[Anarion]

New Thread! So many things to reply to! Finished my finals! Gah!


Let's kick this thread off with

Thanqol's Fabulous (and totally stolen) CONTEST!

Pick some random object in your house. That object is now a pony's cutie mark. Tell me a story about how that pony got that cutie mark.

There will be fabulous prizes!

(And I'm suddenly reminded of my last promised prize distributions, I'll get on those tomorrow hopefully)

I haven't forgotten you still owe me a question. And gosh darn it, you totally just made me write fanfiction. Short fanfiction, sure, but I've held off for so long.
Item selected: a photo of Mt. McKinley by Ansel Adams that happened to be directly in front of me when I started going through the thread.
Picture: http://www.myfreewallpapers.net/artistic/wallpapers/ansel-adams-mckinley.jpg

Story
Snap Shot had never quite understood his name. Oh sure, from the moment of birth everypony knew he was going to be a photographer. It didn't matter that there had never been an artist in the family for at least three generations, with a name like Snap Shot, the very first thing his parents had bought him was a toy camera, and he'd been overjoyed ever since.

No, the problem with his name is that Snap Shot had never taken a quick photo in his life. When he started playing with that camera as a foal, he would take his time and line it up just so. Flower Wishes used to laugh at him for it when they started school because he would try and line up shots of her favorite daisies. Problem was, he had to readjust every time a little breeze blew them out of position. He was a perfectionist and he knew it. And that made him wonder what in the hay his parents were thinking naming him Snap Shot.

In 2nd grade, when some of his classmates began getting their cutie marks, he started getting a little worried. Particularly after even Firecracker Burst got her cutie mark and they had to hold classes in Twilight's library until all the ash had been cleared out and the floorboards replaced. He was a photographer, he had always known it. So why no cutie mark? It could have been a camera, or film, or a picture frame, but something should have come by this point.

The breakthrough, as breakthroughs are wont to do, came unexpectedly. Flower Wishes had begged him to come out hiking with her. Apparently there was a rare type of violet on the other side of the Ponyville mountains and her parents wouldn't let her hike that far alone, even though she was sure she would be fine and had totally hiked that far before and besides did they think she was still a foal that couldn't be trusted not to wander off somewhere? Faced with that sort of tirade, Snap Shot had no choice but to go, even though he thought it would be boring. He still wanted to take pictures and had been busy composing a new shot in his living room of his sister's stuffed animal collection. At least they didn't move in the wind.

He still had his camera, but he was less than sanguine about getting any shots. Still, they hiked. And hiked. And hiked. It occurred to Snap Shot that a spindly unicorn was, perhaps, not the best choice for a traveling companion. But he soldiered on anyway, while Flower kept looking to and fro, seeing if she could spot her rumored violets.

And then, they reached the top of the mountain. And down below, there was a sea of flowers, and a look, and yet another mountain in the distance. Snap Shot was tired, perhaps even a little delirious, and when he got there and finally stopped to rest, he moved without even thinking, lifted his camera and simply pressed the shutter. He put it back down and just turned to Flower: "It sure is beautiful isn't it? I wish I had the time to get the shot just right."

"Silly, she said, you just took a picture. I saw you! Now let's head down, I bet I see those violets in that valley down there!"

Snap Shot just sat in awe, before he picked up his camera, aimed it at the view and started clicking away, while a small landscape gradually appeared on his flank.


So, why is it that the week my internet goes out, ponythread shoots along like Derpy after muffins and the moment I get it back, everypony disappears...?

(Wait, it's just the typical Friday slowdown, isn't it? Ah, I dunno whether I'm coming or going at the moment...)

*Continues innocently hiding party supplies. Also whistles. Innocently.*


Eh, perhaps. But interesting villains have interesting motivations. Tell me how is more interesting - Cruella de Vil, even with the silly motivation of just making a new coat, or the Jaws shark, that is just "following its nature" to attack people?

Not that card-carrying villainy can't be amusing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIf2JxfMA4Q), but it makes for better scenes than characters.

I think it depends. The alien in the movie Alien is best being totally mysterious. Sometimes natural forces and instinctual creatures are the most terrifying villains. They can't be reasoned with or bargained with. And they won't hesitate or get distracted.

On the other hand, Chrysalis clearly did have a motivation here, even if it was driven by instinct. She had been feeding, but as a queen she needed all her children to feed as well (and uh, how do changelings reproduce anyway?). She was providing for her whole hive through a complex scheme to bend the ponies to her will.


Top 3 nominations for Funniest Moment
Must be Crackle's cousin...: 4
Oh Come ON!: 4
Pinkie - Weapon of Mass Annoyance: 3

Okay, everyone seems to be done with the nominations for that, so let's move on. Let's try a more personal category.


Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!

necklace...necklace...necklace, necklace and...big crown thingy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL2lW7JHPME)

[SlyGuyMcFly]

What time is it Ponythread? It's time for League of Ponies!


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[Trixie]

Told you haters will hate thread name :smallbiggrin:

Although not that one. Oh well. On a side note, page 3, and no one noticed I used archaic Roman number notation to go with all these 'obsolete Luna' memes? ^^"

[Kairaven]

Either....

Changelings produce like hive insects, in which the queen is also the Queen mother. By which we can theorize that once she took over Equestria, she would set up nest and leave the love(food)-gathering to her drones and start producing baby changelings (and the next changeling queen of course)


or....

Changelins are ponies with all the love drained from them, and therefore the act of feeding produces more changelings, leading to an ever increasing need for new sources of food.

or....

Changelings procreate with the races they are infiltrating, acquiring that race's biological and magical distinctiveness, adding it to their own with each infiltration.

[TheAmishPirate]

Top 3 nominations for Funniest Moment
Must be Crackle's cousin...: 4
Oh Come ON!: 4
Pinkie - Weapon of Mass Annoyance: 3

Okay, everyone seems to be done with the nominations for that, so let's move on. Let's try a more personal category.


Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!

Welp! Here's a couple for the pile:
Twilight gushes over Smarty Pants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKp1LbY_jFQ&list=UUdNtOQTRViBAzY0byjlTb8Q&index=742&feature=plpp_video)
Twilight deems sleep unnecessary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23kdeh06G18&feature=relmfu)
Twilight appoints the New Rainbow Dash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejFicQHFbZY&list=UUdNtOQTRViBAzY0byjlTb8Q&index=818&feature=plpp_video)


Incidentally, would anyone like to hear my thoughts on the finale, or has the period of relevancy passed?

Relevancy? Bah! Here, everything is relevant, and at the same time nothing is relevant. Think away!


Let's kick this thread off with

Thanqol's Fabulous (and totally stolen) CONTEST!

Pick some random object in your house. That object is now a pony's cutie mark. Tell me a story about how that pony got that cutie mark.

There will be fabulous prizes!

(And I'm suddenly reminded of my last promised prize distributions, I'll get on those tomorrow hopefully)

Two questions:

1) How long does this have to be? A little blurb, or a full-on story?

2) When is the deadline?

If it's something short, I think I can crank something out.

[Lix Lorn]

Ponythread 43: My Fanon Survived Season 2 (And All I Got Was This Tread Title)
That one for NEXT thread. xD


A changeling character inspired by Changelings in general, and of course, Queen Chrysalis.

Princess Allele, the lost daughter of the swarm: http://i.imgur.com/xgwDu.png
The 'mark' is not a true cutiemark, but a magical illusion that overlays itself over whatever cutiemark she would take normally when transforming into other ponies, thusly making so she can be identified, no matter what form she's in, and her affiliation with Equestria instead of the Changeling Hordes would be shown.
cute/hawt


There is a thing I want to know.

Why does this fandom seem so fascinated with Chrysalis? She is explicitly a villain who gains in power as she is the object of love. She didn't come even as close to success as either Nightmare Moon or Discord. And yet, even without going into the changeling groups on dA or the drawfriends on EqD, I am pretty sure I've seen more fanart of her in the last week than of either of those others since their debuts.
Because people love villains. That's...really it.


Where is Tanghol?
Tell me where is thanqol? For I much desire to speak with him.


My theory is that the fandom is trying to feed her more love so her power will grow to a point where the space time barrier will shatter, allowing ponies (or in this case, changling ponies) into our universe.
I like this theory also

[Anarion]

Welp! Here's a couple for the pile:
Twilight gushes over Smarty Pants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKp1LbY_jFQ&list=UUdNtOQTRViBAzY0byjlTb8Q&index=742&feature=plpp_video)
Twilight deems sleep unnecessary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23kdeh06G18&feature=relmfu)
Twilight appoints the New Rainbow Dash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejFicQHFbZY&list=UUdNtOQTRViBAzY0byjlTb8Q&index=818&feature=plpp_video)


Two questions:

1) How long does this have to be? A little blurb, or a full-on story?

2) When is the deadline?

If it's something short, I think I can crank something out.

I approve the non-sleeping Twilight line. So untrue, yet so amusing.

And it better not have to be a full story. If Thanqol thinks he can get me to write anything longer than what I already wrote, he'd better think again.

[Ravian]

or....

Changelings procreate with the races they are infiltrating, acquiring that race's biological and magical distinctiveness, adding it to their own with each infiltration.

So wait Changelings are Bronies? We infiltrate every form of entertainment and convert more from within (I suppose that's closer to the 2nd theory though). Just look at where we are posting, a forum about a web comic based off of 3.5 Dnd rules. And you can find Bronies on pretty much any site on the web, all adding their distinctivness to our own. Aside from the shapeshifting we're a dead ringer. (but then we're already mostly annonymous on the internet)

[Soras Teva Gee]

.....

I am sure you have heard Ashleigh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nhssMi2FtA) sing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dz73dsMAkE) right (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTk6eY9EY5g)? Her (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5e8On2p5Uw) normal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LbK0Bj_cw) voice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_yg9ZJcuxw) is closer to AJ 's then Dash's.

They can easily have just AJ singing. It hasn't happened for the same reason that AJ centric episode hasn't really happened.

I've heard it and I still stand by my statement. The two times we've heard AJ solo its been almost spoken, the closer she gets to actually singing with energy the more razor thin the difference between AJ and Dash becomes.

I know Ashleigh can sing, and well, but a speaking voice and a singing voice are two different things.

[Deadly]

Changelins are ponies with all the love drained from them, and therefore the act of feeding produces more changelings, leading to an ever increasing need for new sources of food.

This is my head canon. Question is then, can it be reversed?

Perhaps there's a parallel to NMM. Originally Celestia banished NMM, perhaps because with Luna corrupted she couldn't use the full power of the Elements. But the Mane 6 could, and instead of banishing her again they freed Luna from whatever made her evil.

Much in the same way Chrysalis and her changelings were banished this time around, but perhaps in the future they might be restored or cleansed, given the right ponies/magic/Elements.

I'm also curious why they stuck Celestia in that cocoon. Was it just to keep her out of the way, or...?

[Kairaven]

I've heard it and I still stand by my statement. The two times we've heard AJ solo its been almost spoken, the closer she gets to actually singing with energy the more razor thin the difference between AJ and Dash becomes.

I know Ashleigh can sing, and well, but a speaking voice and a singing voice are two different things.

I have a problem with your assertion that Ashleigh can't sing in AJ voice. When there's plenty of example that She could do just fine singing as AJ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9AVelq9bM).

[Luka]

:eek:
....I don't understand anything of this now.

[Kd7sov]

You know, doing a rewatch closer together...

I'm beginning to think the theme of Season 2 is "Oh, Pinkie Pie. We can't take you anywhere."

Which strikes me as a bit of flanderization, to be honest. Yes, she exhibited those tendencies in S1 - "Swarm of the Century" and "Best Night Ever" come to mind - but it wasn't her Single Defining Trait. Or even as consistent a thing; her Gala fantasy, for instance, was just fine except for the part where she completely missed what kind of party it was to be; she barely acted out at all for Gilda, Zecora, or the dragon; apart from her song, she was very well-received by both the bison and the Aaaaappleoosans (try getting that one through an unmodified spellchecker...), and so on.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!

Twilight and Future Twilight. (Both I mean the same time!)

[Gamerlord]

Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!
I'm going to go with her introduction to Future Twilight in It's About Time.

[Raz_Fox]

This is my head canon. Question is then, can it be reversed?

Perhaps there's a parallel to NMM. Originally Celestia banished NMM, perhaps because with Luna corrupted she couldn't use the full power of the Elements. But the Mane 6 could, and instead of banishing her again they freed Luna from whatever made her evil.

Much in the same way Chrysalis and her changelings were banished this time around, but perhaps in the future they might be restored or cleansed, given the right ponies/magic/Elements.

I'm also curious why they stuck Celestia in that cocoon. Was it just to keep her out of the way, or...?

I am also very... curious... about the cocoon.

Allow me to explain my headcanon?

in beginning
beginning were we
there were gods
have tasted gods once we
sweet divinity-
gods who made
(cannot make we)
breathed life into
into earth
into sky
into magic
into water/fire/gem/mountain
know this they
call we heresy they
is firstbreathed we
children of firstgod
star-scatterer
laughinggod
dragger-out-of-water
everycreaturegod
chaosmaster
father of we
created first us he
(cannot make we)
firstchildren we
made of sunshadow we
glasseyed we
bored firstgod was
never finished we
left us holefilled we
half-created we
in dark sit watching we
gods make
(cannot make we)
they
earth/sky/magic they
love they
gods love they
happy they
safe content they
have no love we
cast-off we
hungry we
this is spoken:
take love for we
make whole we
when have wholeness we
have making-knowing we
then make own faces we
not faces of they
best and eldest we
deserve wholeness we
are still hungry we
shall eat nations we
shall eat love we
shall eat gods we
when eat gods we
taste like wholeness they?

[Mewtarthio]

I'm beginning to think the theme of Season 2 is "Oh, Pinkie Pie. We can't take you anywhere."

Which strikes me as a bit of flanderization, to be honest. Yes, she exhibited those tendencies in S1 - "Swarm of the Century" and "Best Night Ever" come to mind - but it wasn't her Single Defining Trait. Or even as consistent a thing; her Gala fantasy, for instance, was just fine except for the part where she completely missed what kind of party it was to be; she barely acted out at all for Gilda, Zecora, or the dragon; apart from her song, she was very well-received by both the bison and the Aaaaappleoosans (try getting that one through an unmodified spellchecker...), and so on.

She's always been pretty crazy. She's just good enough at making people smile that they're willing to go along with her unless she manages to seriously offend them (such as by burning their precious mementos or implying that a complicated territorial conflict boils down to "You gotta share! / You gotta care!").

The only times I can think of her seriously going into "We can't take you anywhere" mode in Season 2 were in "Sweet and Elite" and "A Friend in Deed." In the former case, it wasn't just Pinkie that was the problem: The rest of the cast was just as disruptive (and Pinkie's behavior was pretty much the same as it was in "Best Night Ever"). In the latter, she was dealing with a solitary individual who was particularly predisposed to dislike her (and even then she managed to get Cranky to forgive her bad first impression before she set his scrapbook on fire).


:eek:
....I don't understand anything of this now.

Then the thread is doing its job!

[Pokonic]

I'm also curious why they stuck Celestia in that cocoon. Was it just to keep her out of the way, or...?


Well, the changelings did not seem to make a big deal about it ( You would think that if it was some sort of conversion pod it would have at least a few near it.), so it's probably just a way of keeping her from even trying to excape. Of course, she probably has quite a bit of love for her subjects, so keeping her alive to tap into at her leisure makes sense.

[Soras Teva Gee]

I have a problem with your assertion that Ashleigh can't sing in AJ voice. When there's plenty of example that She could do just fine singing as AJ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9AVelq9bM).

And my response is you're really not helping your case there.

Again I don't think this is a real problem nor do I think Ashleigh is untalented. Just that voices even among the actually talented voice actors have limits that don't change* easily. Look how in the same show Tara doesn't sing but Twilight does. Twilightlicous is a case in point, its the same way they slide AJ through.

*(Unless you're Frank Welker but even he sticks mostly to his gender and overwhelmingly doesn't sing in his billion and three voices)

[Deadly]

I am also very... curious... about the cocoon.

Allow me to explain my headcanon?

in beginning
beginning were we
there were gods
have tasted gods once we
sweet divinity-
gods who made
(cannot make we)
breathed life into
into earth
into sky
into magic
into water/fire/gem/mountain
know this they
call we heresy they
is firstbreathed we
children of firstgod
star-scatterer
laughinggod
dragger-out-of-water
everycreaturegod
chaosmaster
father of we
created first us he
(cannot make we)
firstchildren we
made of sunshadow we
glasseyed we
bored firstgod was
never finished we
left us holefilled we
half-created we
in dark sit watching we
gods make
(cannot make we)
they
earth/sky/magic they
love they
gods love they
happy they
safe content they
have no love we
cast-off we
hungry we
this is spoken:
take love for we
make whole we
when have wholeness we
have making-knowing we
then make own faces we
not faces of they
best and eldest we
deserve wholeness we
are still hungry we
shall eat nations we
shall eat love we
shall eat gods we
when eat gods we
taste like wholeness they?

I... think i got the gist of that :smalleek:


Well, the changelings did not seem to make a big deal about it ( You would think that if it was some sort of conversion pod it would have at least a few near it.), so it's probably just a way of keeping her from even trying to excape. Of course, she probably has quite a bit of love for her subjects, so keeping her alive to tap into at her leisure makes sence.

Ah yes, that brings up another question. Does Celestia's defeat imply that her love for her subjects is somehow less than Shining Armor's love for Cadence?

[Topaz]

Topaz' Traditionally Tardy List of Pony tabletop RPGs:

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, The Roleplaying Game (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2zrjqXYhlMcN2Q0M2VmNmMtY2I4Mi00YjA1LTg3NDctYzQ2Z GZiMDQ3ZGFk/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1) (Homebrew)
Pony Tales the RPG (http://catspaw-dtp-services.deviantart.com/gallery/32801780) (D6)
Friendship is FATE (https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1PX7R81aQyH_HoJ7_tfOMhivgoh5T3tOgzgSXyZMWlQ g) (FATE system)
The Savage World of My Little Pony (http://giftkrieg23.deviantart.com/art/Savage-World-of-MLP-FiM-202882708?) (Savage Worlds)
Puzzles and Ponies (http://puzzlesandponies.deviantart.com/) (Homebrew)
Friendship is Magic, the Tabletop RPG (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192468) (Homebrew, these forums)
Unknown Ponies: Failure is Awesome (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3207923/Unknown%20Ponies%20Failure%20is%20Awesome.pdf) (Unknown Armies)
Don't Rest Your Hooves (http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Don%27t_Rest_Your_Hooves) (Don't Rest Your Head)
Ponies for D&D 4e (http://tradwiki.foxxtrot.net/index.php?title=Pony)
Ponyfinder thread on Paizo forum (http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz52pj?Prisons-and-PoniesPonyfinder-Feedback-needed#41)
Storyteller based Pony RPG tumblr (http://tabletop-friendship.tumblr.com/)

Further contributions and updates welcome!

EDIT: Adding Sereg's Pony RPG (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KyPWVXT93Zz8LiZawFxl6kUy0OrdlQYcBBXo-Sv6GKw/edit?pli=1) (D10 Homebrew)

[Ravian]

I... think i got the gist of that :smalleek:



Ah yes, that brings up another question. Does Celestia's defeat imply that her love for her subjects is somehow less than Shining Armor's love for Cadence?

I'm guessing more that the love that Cadence and Shining did was rather unusual for ponies to do. Changelings naturally leech off of love, ponies have alot of love but I think only the couple has so far been able to tap into it to the extent we saw.

I'd think of it as a source of power like the elements of harmony (probably not as concentrated) that is both rare and powerful. It probably helped though that it called into the territory of both their special talents (Cadence using her love to empower Shining and Shining to do the actual force wave)

[Pokonic]

I am also very... curious... about the cocoon.

Allow me to explain my headcanon?

in beginning
beginning were we
there were gods
have tasted gods once we
sweet divinity-
gods who made
(cannot make we)
breathed life into
into earth
into sky
into magic
into water/fire/gem/mountain
know this they
call we heresy they
is firstbreathed we
children of firstgod
star-scatterer
laughinggod
dragger-out-of-water
everycreaturegod
chaosmaster
father of we
created first us he
(cannot make we)
firstchildren we
made of sunshadow we
glasseyed we
bored firstgod was
never finished we
left us holefilled we
half-created we
in dark sit watching we
gods make
(cannot make we)
they
earth/sky/magic they
love they
gods love they
happy they
safe content they
have no love we
cast-off we
hungry we
this is spoken:
take love for we
make whole we
when have wholeness we
have making-knowing we
then make own faces we
not faces of they
best and eldest we
deserve wholeness we
are still hungry we
shall eat nations we
shall eat love we
shall eat gods we
when eat gods we
taste like wholeness they?

Err, so there half-forgotten Discord creations that where half-heartedly made before he moved on to other things, leaving a magicly skilled race that wishs to spread across the world? And the gods are Alicorns?:smallconfused:

[Athaniar]

Top 3 nominations for Funniest Moment
Must be Crackle's cousin...: 4
Oh Come ON!: 4
Pinkie - Weapon of Mass Annoyance: 3

Okay, everyone seems to be done with the nominations for that, so let's move on. Let's try a more personal category.


Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!
Good choices. For Twilight, I support CLOCK IS TICKING, TWILIGHT. CLOCK. IS. TICKING! http://i.imgur.com/WcmCY.png

[Kairaven]

And my response is you're really not helping your case there.

Again I don't think this is a real problem nor do I think Ashleigh is untalented. Just that voices even among the actually talented voice actors have limits that don't change* easily. Look how in the same show Tara doesn't sing but Twilight does. Twilightlicous is a case in point, its the same way they slide AJ through.

*(Unless you're Frank Welker but even he sticks mostly to his gender and overwhelmingly doesn't sing in his billion and three voices)

I read through that 5 times and still can't understand what you are trying to say.

I don't see a need for hiring another VA to sing as AJ when Ashleigh does it perfectly fine, the small sample of current AJ song snippets does her voice no justice.

And Tara Has also said that she could sing as Twilight, the reason she doesn't is because she is at a different location than the composers. Hence you have Rebecca Shoichet singing in her place.

If you don't like Ashleigh's performance as AJ singing? that's fine, but to imply that DHX can't do an AJ song because Ashleigh can't sing as her? that's slightly insulting.

[Raz_Fox]

Err, so there half-forgotten Discord creations that where half-heartedly made before he moved on to other things, leaving a magicly skilled race that wishs to spread across the world? And the gods are Alicorns?:smallconfused:

You only have their word for it.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Ah yes, that brings up another question. Does Celestia's defeat imply that her love for her subjects is somehow less than Shining Armor's love for Cadence?

I'd broadly speaking say no. My reading of the situation is that Chrysalis devours love. For lack of better terms she can turn Love Points into Mana Points, even exceeding her normal capacity. Celestia only has her normal Mana points to run on.

(Also presumably as Queen of the Changeling Chrysalis was not powerless before hand)

However I wouldn't be prepared to eliminate the possiblity that while probably irrelevant Shining and Cadence do love each other more then Celestia could possibly love Equestria. By the very nature you cannot love your people as much as the one *special* person. Okay maybe a couple people but not a nation.

[Kd7sov]

The only times I can think of her seriously going into "We can't take you anywhere" mode in Season 2 were in "Sweet and Elite" and "A Friend in Deed." In the former case, it wasn't just Pinkie that was the problem: The rest of the cast was just as disruptive (and Pinkie's behavior was pretty much the same as it was in "Best Night Ever"). In the latter, she was dealing with a solitary individual who was particularly predisposed to dislike her (and even then she managed to get Cranky to forgive her bad first impression before she set his scrapbook on fire).

Well, for instance. In the endings of both "MMMystery on the Friendship Express" and "A Canterlot Wedding, Part 2", we see her in the immediate aftermath of overgorging herself on cake. (Plus, of course, her treatment of the other bakers in MMMystery.) In "Last Roundup" she gets both annoying and seriously scary, although only to her friends.

[PhantomFox]

Discussion time: We've talked a lot about Honesty, but what does it mean to be the Element of Kindness, and how does it differ from Generosity?

[Soras Teva Gee]

If you don't like Ashleigh's performance as AJ singing? that's fine, but to imply that DHX can't do an AJ song because Ashleigh can't sing as her? that's slightly insulting.

I think I see your objection now and...

... I believe I stated at the beginning I believe an AJ having her own song would require an addition to the cast for the singing voice. If that happens its entirely possible. And that would be why it happens, if we hear they've hired someone to sing as AJ count on a big number out of the pony.

However at that meta level its easy to say but not as easy to do. Both finding a woman for the role and hiring her would cost money, even someone on staff would have require certain considerations of contracts. Presumably all accounts of the show being a success could provide the budget for that, among other things. But at the same time it might never end up high enough. Do we hire another singer for AJ or get John de Lancie to reprise Discord? Or any of countless scenarios we will never know of behind non-disclosure clauses.

Also there are certain alternatives, like a song dedicated too AJ for example where AJ herself doesn't have to do more then the lyrical dialogue (or whatever the technical term is) we already heard from her. But if you grant my belief that Ashleigh can't sing in AJ's voice what we shouldn't expect is something like Pinkie had with Smile Smile Smile or Cadence's Aria.

You also might squeeze some kind of duet out in a lower energy style. I'm suddenly having visions of Anything You Can Do I Can Better....

(Also I would be delighted to be proved wrong, since I don't feel this is a problem though I'm not out hankering for an AJ song either)

[Alabenson]

I'm also curious why they stuck Celestia in that cocoon. Was it just to keep her out of the way, or...?

My guess is that it was to make sure Celestia wouldn't be able to recover and potentially interfere with the changeling's plans. Given that the only reason that Chrysalis defeated Celestia was due to the boost given to her by feeding off of Shining Armor's love for Cadence (and Chrysalis was still surprised that she actually won), I'd say there was still the possibility, however remote, that Celestia could recover from her injuries and attack Chrysalis a second time, when she might not have the advantage of being supercharged with high potency love.

[Deadly]

I'm guessing more that the love that Cadence and Shining did was rather unusual for ponies to do. Changelings naturally leech off of love, ponies have alot of love but I think only the couple has so far been able to tap into it to the extent we saw.

I'd think of it as a source of power like the elements of harmony (probably not as concentrated) that is both rare and powerful. It probably helped though that it called into the territory of both their special talents (Cadence using her love to empower Shining and Shining to do the actual force wave)

Hmm, I suppose that makes sense. A mix of talents and just being super much in love?


I'd broadly speaking say no. My reading of the situation is that Chrysalis devours love. For lack of better terms she can turn Love Points into Mana Points, even exceeding her normal capacity. Celestia only has her normal Mana points to run on.

(Also presumably as Queen of the Changeling Chrysalis was not powerless before hand)

Celestia wasn't powerless beforehand either. Both have some power to begin with, so you're saying only Chrysalis can tap into the power of Love?


However I wouldn't be prepared to eliminate the possiblity that while probably irrelevant Shining and Cadence do love each other more then Celestia could possibly love Equestria. By the very nature you cannot love your people as much as the one *special* person. Okay maybe a couple people but not a nation.

I don't know, seems perhaps mildly insulting to Celestia's love to say it's not as great as some other kind of love.

[Maxtronaut]

I'm also curious why they stuck Celestia in that cocoon. Was it just to keep her out of the way, or...?

My head canon is that the changelings are simple hive insects that look like ponies, sort of. They're like locusts, harvest all the love they can from one place, then move on. The drones, workers, etc don't have that much thinking power aside from "food, attack, and danger." The queen, Chrysalis in this case, is the only changeling with enough intelligence to do what she did. Then again, the changelings are hive mind, and if enough of them get the idea to overthrow their queen... Well, Chrysalis is gonna have a bad time.

Also, I think that cocoon is kinda 2 things.

1: It's a simple prison pod, but wouldn't a living god be able to break out of something like that? That's the second thing.

2: It's also a love-drainer. It provides nearby changelings with an effective food source for a short period of time.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Celestia wasn't powerless beforehand either. Both have some power to begin with, so you're saying only Chrysalis can tap into the power of Love?Well, she feeds on the power of Love, so that's almost a given. Chrysalis was probably a notch or two below Celestia, power-wise. But that was when she was feeding off whatever "ambient love" existed in whatever wasteland they came from. With concentrated love of the implied magnitude, that'd be like running on A-92 all your life and accidentally topping off the tank with rocket fuel.


I don't know, seems perhaps mildly insulting to Celestia's love to say it's not as great as some other kind of love.Personally, I think now that modified "world of cardboard speech" is more relevant than ever, if slightly misapplied. Celestia cares deeply for her subjects, loves them dearly... or would want to, but she can't bring herself to. Because she is immortal, and everyone else isn't.(Luna excepted, though we don't have data on that) She can't be more than a reasonable authority figure and/or a good friend to everyone she sees, lest she slip into depression out of sorrow for all the good ponies passing away. It's the "Who Wants To Live Forever" trope in action, and one of the ways to protect yourself is to moderate your affections. She still has enough love for everyone though, perhaps that's why she is normally the most powerful.
[/personal_interpretation]

[Kd7sov]

Celestia wasn't powerless beforehand either. Both have some power to begin with, so you're saying only Chrysalis can tap into the power of Love?

In that way, I'd agree.

Let's look at the situation. Celestia is standing on her own. On behalf of her people, sure, but she's doing this for them, rather than as (one of) them. Nopony is specifically supporting her, and her cutie-mark talent (controlling the sun) is of dubious use here.

Cadence does use the Power of Love, but it's both her cutie-mark talent and an active supporting role (of Shining's own cutie-mark talent).

If Cadence had been in a position to actively support Celestia, who knows what might have happened? But on her own, Celestia couldn't get that kind of boost from Love.

[BlasTech]

Wow, Eurobeat has already released BBBFF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P8yWYqUqyg). Can't wait for the other songs ^^

[Deadly]

Well, she feeds on the power of Love, so that's almost a given. Chrysalis was probably a notch or two below Celestia, power-wise. But that was when she was feeding off whatever "ambient love" existed in whatever wasteland they came from. With concentrated love of the implied magnitude, that'd be like running on A-92 all your life and accidentally topping off the tank with rocket fuel.

Personally, I think now that modified "world of cardboard speech" is more relevant than ever, if slightly misapplied. Celestia cares deeply for her subjects, loves them dearly... or would want to, but she can't bring herself to. Because she is immortal, and everyone else isn't.(Luna excepted, though we don't have data on that) She can't be more than a reasonable authority figure and/or a good friend to everyone she sees, lest she slip into depression out of sorrow for all the good ponies passing away. It's the "Who Wants To Live Forever" trope in action, and one of the ways to protect yourself is to moderate your affections. She still has enough love for everyone though, perhaps that's why she is normally the most powerful.
[/personal_interpretation]

Actually, if we talk about which love is more powerful (whatever that means), I'd say Celestia's love for her subjects should be many times greater than any two ponies' love for each other. Because it's not a "selfish" love, it's not directed at a single pony but at all ponies and their well being. That ought to be a very powerful thing.

And I do think Celestia should be able to tap into this power just like Chrysalis does. Because apparently Love is another form of magic like Friendship, or a kind of Friendship perhaps. Either way, I can't see any reason why Celestia couldn't use her love for her subjects to power her magic when she's in a battle to defend those same subjects.

And I think it would make a great "lesson" to show how Celestia's love for all ponies is a greater force than that of any single pair of lovers. But of course it's hard to avoid the old clichés in a children's cartoon, I guess.

[Luka]

Um....okay, so now I'm still pretty left with the question, the show has animations, but only Character stuff besides that? :smallconfused:

[Deadly]

In that way, I'd agree.

Let's look at the situation. Celestia is standing on her own. On behalf of her people, sure, but she's doing this for them, rather than as (one of) them. Nopony is specifically supporting her, and her cutie-mark talent (controlling the sun) is of dubious use here.

Cadence does use the Power of Love, but it's both her cutie-mark talent and an active supporting role (of Shining's own cutie-mark talent).

If Cadence had been in a position to actively support Celestia, who knows what might have happened? But on her own, Celestia couldn't get that kind of boost from Love.

I suppose if her subjects don't actually care for her much, but I don't think we've seen any indication of that. Quite the opposite, Celestia seems to be a very beloved regent.

[Welf]

Part of the problem for me is just that she didn't have very clear motivations. Yes, she wanted to take over Equestria for her changelings. And then, she wanted to marry Shining Armor, because... she liked the idea of being married? I mean, she points out that she doesn't even like him, but still lists being married to him as one of her top goals. Do zombified ponies really produce that much love?

I think she is just extremely greedy and obsessed with getting other people's stuff. She wants him because she sees someone else wants him. Probably she would lose interest the moment she has him and look for something or someone else.

[Tvtyrant]

Um....okay, so now I'm still pretty left with the question, the show has animations, but only Character stuff besides that? :smallconfused:

Why don't you watch the show, and then report your findings on it here for us. We can't tell you how to like or dislike the show, so it is up to you.

[BlasTech]

Um....okay, so now I'm still pretty left with the question, the show has animations, but only Character stuff besides that? :smallconfused:

The show has: Loony-tunes esque slapstick and gags, Disney quality music, a good blend of action and character development and, at its heart, a set of morals that have suprisingly high applicability to alot of people beyond its target audience, and which have helped alot of people to actually improve themselves.

The fandom also has: Music, Art, Comics, Stories, Animations, TF2 mods, Flash/PC/Board/Card games, Ponyfied music videos (PMV's)/trailers/clips, Stories, Fan spinoffs and hillarious abridged series etc etc.

Yeah, pretty much what TvTyrant said. :smalltongue:

Unrelated: This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hojHpRDUTQ)Rainboom video still gives me the chills. Anyone have anything similar lying around from S1 S2?

[thubby]

Actually, if we talk about which love is more powerful (whatever that means), I'd say Celestia's love for her subjects should be many times greater than any two ponies' love for each other. Because it's not a "selfish" love, it's not directed at a single pony but at all ponies and their well being. That ought to be a very powerful thing.

And I do think Celestia should be able to tap into this power just like Chrysalis does. Because apparently Love is another form of magic like Friendship, or a kind of Friendship perhaps. Either way, I can't see any reason why Celestia couldn't use her love for her subjects to power her magic when she's in a battle to defend those same subjects.

And I think it would make a great "lesson" to show how Celestia's love for all ponies is a greater force than that of any single pair of lovers. But of course it's hard to avoid the old clichés in a children's cartoon, I guess.

she needed the elements of harmony to weaponize loyalty, honesty, kindness, etc.
i dont find it that surprising she cant use love to power her offense.

[Deadly]

she needed the elements of harmony to weaponize loyalty, honesty, kindness, etc.
i dont find it that surprising she cant use love to power her offense.

But Cadence and Shining could? They didn't seem to need the Elements

[thubby]

But Cadence and Shining could? They didn't seem to need the Elements

cadance has been shown to have magic relating to love. her full name is Princess Mi Amore Cadenza, after all.

[Kd7sov]

I suppose if her subjects don't actually care for her much, but I don't think we've seen any indication of that. Quite the opposite, Celestia seems to be a very beloved regent.

And if any of them, especially any with a love-based Cutie Mark, had been actively trying to help her, things might have turned out differently. But as I pointed out, she was operating on her own, and (at least mostly) outside the realm of her own Cutie Mark.

[Silverraptor]

Best Twilight Moment


My votes go to:
Twilight from the future (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRCGcfSqT5I)
My Precious! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFcxVPttJuY)


Wow, Eurobeat has already released BBBFF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P8yWYqUqyg). Can't wait for the other songs ^^

They're working on the Aria song next.

[Deadly]

cadence has been shown to have magic relating with love. her full name is Princess Mi Amore Cadenza, after all.

Well, perhaps, but I still don't see why Celestia's love wouldn't at least enhance her power even if it may not normally be a conscious act. And I do like the idea that her love for her subjects is greater than that of any two ponies, and I think it'd make a great premise for an episode or scene. Not sure how exactly you'd make it work, but that's another matter.

Also, there's a strong suggestion that the Mane 6 don't actually need those pieces of jewelry to use the Elements. Or rather, that they can summon them. We saw that when NMM destroyed the "elements", and subsequently the actual Elements materialized when Twilight had her little spark.

The ponies apparently haven't realized this, which in itself is odd, but what that tells me is that if Celestia was truly in a situation where her subjects were in danger she should be able to summon the necessary power.

[Merellis]

Unrelated: This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hojHpRDUTQ)Rainboom video still gives me the chills. Anyone have anything similar lying around from S1 S2?

I agree with that one being awesome.

I also love this one though it's a fan-made one. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-NsP3RIPEc)

Haven't found an epic season two video yet.


Well, perhaps, but I still don't see why Celestia's love wouldn't at least enhance her power even if it may not normally be a conscious act. And I do like the idea that her love for her subjects is greater than that of any two ponies, and I think it'd make a great premise for an episode or scene. Not sure how exactly you'd make it work, but that's another matter.

Also, there's a strong suggestion that the Mane 6 don't actually need those pieces of jewelry to use the Elements. Or rather, that they can summon them. We saw that when NMM destroyed the "elements", and subsequently the actual Elements materialized when Twilight had her little spark.

The ponies apparently haven't realized this, which in itself is odd, but what that tells me is that if Celestia was truly in a situation where her subjects were in danger she should be able to summon the necessary power.

I'm of the opinion that while she loves Equestria, it's not as strong as the love known as True Love. Though, I am also of the opinion that Twilight is Celestia's only apprentice in the last thousand years so that shows what I might know.

[BlasTech]

Let's kick this thread off with

Thanqol's Fabulous (and totally stolen) CONTEST!

Pick some random object in your house. That object is now a pony's cutie mark. Tell me a story about how that pony got that cutie mark.

There will be fabulous prizes!

(And I'm suddenly reminded of my last promised prize distributions, I'll get on those tomorrow hopefully)

... The first thing I saw was a fish-shaped alarm clock ... this could take a while :smalltongue:


Top 3 nominations for Funniest Moment
Must be Crackle's cousin...: 4
Oh Come ON!: 4
Pinkie - Weapon of Mass Annoyance: 3

Okay, everyone seems to be done with the nominations for that, so let's move on. Let's try a more personal category.


Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!

So the criteria is "Best"? Not just funniest?

My nomination is: Twilight reading the letters in RoH
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf83Yd8QaK4&feature=related). Sums up the whole spirit of the show for me.

I think I'll also back the: "Twilight talking about sleep" In About Time, and "Necklace Necklace, Crown Thingie" From RoH to round out my three.

[Deadly]

And if any of them, especially any with a love-based Cutie Mark, had been actively trying to help her, things might have turned out differently. But as I pointed out, she was operating on her own, and (at least mostly) outside the realm of her own Cutie Mark.

Twilight's friends never do anything when they use the Elements. They just need to be there when Twilight does her magic mojo, for support I suppose. As long as Celestia knows that her subjects love her and support her and are there to be defended, I seriously don't see why she'd need them to do anything more.

[Tvtyrant]

Twilight's friends never do anything when they use the Elements. They just need to be there when Twilight does her magic mojo, for support I suppose. As long as Celestia knows that her subjects love her and support her and are there to be defended, I seriously don't see why she'd need them to do anything more.

I think this is making big assumptions about how the Elements of Harmony work, and while I approve of fan-canon it cannot be used to make serious arguments about the series.

[Kindablue]

Unrelated: This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hojHpRDUTQ)Rainboom video still gives me the chills. Anyone have anything similar lying around from S1 S2?

The "My Little Wu-Tang Clan: Shame on a *****" video was what got me to watch the show, and I think it still holds up.

[Kairaven]

well....


(power source) Cadance ♥ ---> (spell focus point) Shining Armor = Massive power wave.

or

Cadance ♥ ---> Shining Armor ♥ ----> Cadance ♥ ---> Shining Armor.... Ad infinitum = Perpetual self replicating power amplification. O! M! G!


vs.

Celestia ♥ ---> subjects ..........no power input? in fact this diagram depicts power drain....

or should it be rather

(power source) Subjects ♥ ---> (magic focus) Celestia = OMG THE SUN"S FURY!!! I AM ON FIRE!

vs.

(power source) Shining Armor ♥ ---> Cadance?!? Diverted! ----> Chrysalis = Power greater than the SUN itself!!




as this has pointed out, the ponies may not actually love Celestia as much as SA loves Cadance.

which as fannon like to point out, maybe actually true.

[Deadly]

I think this is making big assumptions about how the Elements of Harmony work, and while I approve of fan-canon it cannot be used to make serious arguments about the series.

The whole discussion is, of course, purely speculative. But I think there's reason to believe that Celestia should be able to harness the power of her love to defend her subjects. Obviously we don't know, but that never stopped us before :smalltongue:

[Kd7sov]

Also, there's a strong suggestion that the Mane 6 don't actually need those pieces of jewelry to use the Elements. Or rather, that they can summon them. We saw that when NMM destroyed the "elements", and subsequently the actual Elements materialized when Twilight had her little spark.

The ponies apparently haven't realized this, which in itself is odd, but what that tells me is that if Celestia was truly in a situation where her subjects were in danger she should be able to summon the necessary power.

A strong suggestion, hm? Let me tell you how I saw that scene.

The physical forms of the Elements were broken by Nightmare Moon. The shards of those forms gathered around each relevant pony as she, and their focus Twilight, recognized the relevance. When all five were gathered, the sixth appeared, as predicted. When the Elements were activated, the shards re-formed into shapes more closely tied to the ponies in question.

It may be that, as you said subsequently, the other five don't have to do anything. But they do explicitly have to be present, and probably in the "right" state of mind (see: Return of Harmony). For without the first five, the sixth does not exist.

[Trixie]

Changelings produce like hive insects, in which the queen is also the Queen mother. By which we can theorize that once she took over Equestria, she would set up nest and leave the love(food)-gathering to her drones and start producing baby changelings (and the next changeling queen of course)

or....

Changelins are ponies with all the love drained from them, and therefore the act of feeding produces more changelings, leading to an ever increasing need for new sources of food.

or....

Changelings procreate with the races they are infiltrating, acquiring that race's biological and magical distinctiveness, adding it to their own with each infiltration.

I don't know if that was suggested before, but it fits neatly into previous Gens of MLP :smalltongue:


http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/c40224ead782cd52cebdeb480bb66fcd/171270%20-%20artist%3Aharetrinity%20changeling%20Chrysalis%2 0comic%20flutter_pony.jpg

[Lix Lorn]

@Celestia love discussion:
I assumed it was simply that you need two ponies. Shining Armor couldn't power a spell with his love for Cadence-and Cadence couldn't power a spell with her love either. But together, she can power HIS spell.
Or, presumably, vice-versa.

While Celestia may or may not love her people more... they can't all touch their horns to hers at once. :smalltongue:

[Maxtronaut]

Let's kick this thread off with

Thanqol's Fabulous (and totally stolen) CONTEST!

Pick some random object in your house. That object is now a pony's cutie mark. Tell me a story about how that pony got that cutie mark.

There will be fabulous prizes!

(And I'm suddenly reminded of my last promised prize distributions, I'll get on those tomorrow hopefully)

All right Thanqol, you ready for this? I put the thing in spoilers so people who don't want to read it don't have to.

His name's Dreamcatcher, His CM is, wouldn't ya know it, a dreamcatcher. He is an insomniac as well as a schizophrenic. He has an imaginary zebra friend named Bandia, and acknowledges the fact that he is not real. However, he's still fun to talk with sometimes. So, Dreamcatcher was a late bloomer, I mean Really late. He got his cutie mark because his father, Frederic Horshoepin (look him up on the MLP Wiki), was complaining of increasingly realistic nightmares. He ended up in the hospital, and Dreamcatcher decided to stay with him that night. Surprisingly, Dreamcatcher fell asleep, but his dream wasn't his own. He had entered his father's nightmare. Dreamcatcher watched as a creature, much akin to the weird black ooze pony that is now Thubby's pet, appears. It sits down at his Frederic's piano and starts playing a beautiful melody. Dreamcatcher finds his father and asks him why he is covering his ears. Frederic claims that he must cover his ears because the ooze pony is emitting an awful screeching sound, which he can't block out, even though he's covering his ears. Dreamcatcher eventually convinces his father to uncover his ears, and he hears the beautiful music as well. The creature beckons for Frederic to sit next to it and play along with it. Frederic does in fact sit down next to it and helps to make the song even more amazing. The two ponies stand and take a bow to the sound of thunderous applause. The creature fades away, and the dream ends. Dreamcatcher wakes up, in the early morning to find that he now has his cutie mark, and Frederic is sleeping peacefully. He awakens moments later, and thanks his son.

So there you have it. I pray to Faust that this is decent. Also, I have to thank you, now I have a possible idea for my next fanfic. Speaking of which...

*Clicks open Fimfiction tab and begins typing next chapter of Clockwork.*

[Pokonic]

I don't know if that was suggested before, but it fits neatly into previous Gens of MLP :smalltongue:


http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/c40224ead782cd52cebdeb480bb66fcd/171270%20-%20artist%3Aharetrinity%20changeling%20Chrysalis%2 0comic%20flutter_pony.jpg

......

"place slowclap gif here"

[thubby]

do we have a pony version of Mr.burns?

[otakuryoga]

ETA on Trixie/Chrysalis ship fic?

wouldn't work

the moment Chrysalis tried to replace Fluttershy and feed off of Trixies love Trixie would realize it and kick her flank 8 ways to sunday

[PhantomFox]

Current standings for Best Twilight Moment:
Twilight & Future Twilight: 5
Starswirl Costume: 1
This is MY BOOK! And I'm gonna READ IT!!: 2
Disaster proof Equestria!: 1
Do it for Equestria! Do it for Rainbow Dash! Do it for yourself!
I'm going to do what I do best; Lecture her!: 2
Twilight's Awkward Dance: 1
Necklace, Necklace, Necklace, Necklace, and Big Crown Thingy!: 1
Twilight Loves Smarty Pants: 1
Sleep Deprived Crazy Twilight: 2
Congratulations, you're the new Rainbow Dash: 1
Clock is ticking Twilight. CLOCK. IS. TICKING!: 1
Gollumn Twilight: 1
Twilight Rereads Friendship Reports: 1


Nominations will continue until people stop nominating.

[Alabenson]

do we have a pony version of Mr.burns?

I think I have something that could work

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/7a48b31dd712b17fe2c644b713ed1fb7/83058%20-%20animated%20Discord%20excellent%20go_on%20procee d.gif
I knew this gif would come in handy

[Kyouhen]

Top 3 nominations for Funniest Moment
Must be Crackle's cousin...: 4
Oh Come ON!: 4
Pinkie - Weapon of Mass Annoyance: 3

Okay, everyone seems to be done with the nominations for that, so let's move on. Let's try a more personal category.


Pony Awards Category two
Best Twilight Sparkle Moment

And.... GO!

This is my book, and I'm going to read it!
Monitor EVERYTHING O_O
Necklace. Necklace. Necklace. Necklace. Big crown thingy!


The best thing about FIM episodes is that even now, there are still new things to be found and speculated upon on rewatch. Period of relevancy?!? pft, when has logic and relevancy ever come close to Ponythread.


Speaking of which, I was rewatching Cutie Pox the other day and noticed that Scootaloo flies. Twice. Briefly both times, but she pretty clearly gets off the ground. Did anyone else notice that?


What time is it Ponythread? It's time for League of Ponies!


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I was going to do a Singed for that contest. But I thought it closed at the end of the month and missed the deadline. :smallfrown:


My guess is that it was to make sure Celestia wouldn't be able to recover and potentially interfere with the changeling's plans. Given that the only reason that Chrysalis defeated Celestia was due to the boost given to her by feeding off of Shining Armor's love for Cadence (and Chrysalis was still surprised that she actually won), I'd say there was still the possibility, however remote, that Celestia could recover from her injuries and attack Chrysalis a second time, when she might not have the advantage of being supercharged with high potency love.

I'm guessing it's closer to Celestia underestimating Chrysalis' power. She clearly thought it would be a short and effortless fight, and was shocked when Chrysalis started forcing back her attack. On top of that, we can probably assume that Chrysalis put all the power she could muster into that attack. If Celestia got a second chance, she'd know exactly how strong Chrysalis is and would be able to change her tactics appropriately.


But Cadence and Shining could? They didn't seem to need the Elements

They also didn't do as thorough a job as the Elements would have. They repelled the changelings, that's it. Though scattered, there's still an army of changelings on the loose. They aren't likely to get far in Canterlot anymore as I'm sure special defences will be put in place to watch out for them after this little incident, but they're still a threat. The Elements would have removed the threat completely.


Well, perhaps, but I still don't see why Celestia's love wouldn't at least enhance her power even if it may not normally be a conscious act. And I do like the idea that her love for her subjects is greater than that of any two ponies, and I think it'd make a great premise for an episode or scene. Not sure how exactly you'd make it work, but that's another matter.

Also, there's a strong suggestion that the Mane 6 don't actually need those pieces of jewelry to use the Elements. Or rather, that they can summon them. We saw that when NMM destroyed the "elements", and subsequently the actual Elements materialized when Twilight had her little spark.

The ponies apparently haven't realized this, which in itself is odd, but what that tells me is that if Celestia was truly in a situation where her subjects were in danger she should be able to summon the necessary power.

I think that initial appearance was the Elements linking to a new master. When something happens that permanently breaks the bond for the Elements (ie one of the bearers dying) they likely revert to stone form until a new group is able to awaken them again. Kind of like the Dragonballs. They're worthless stones until ready to be used, then they get all shiny and pretty. Also probably explains why they look like their cutie marks.

[Silverraptor]

Alright, I think its time sort out the episodes in the proper order. I just watched the Supersqueezy 6000 and realized the Apple family is indeed preparing for the winter, yet this episode appears after the Christmas special episode.

Any pony want to help me sort out season 2 as well as season 1 for the chronological order?:smallsmile:

[Thanqol]

Chrysalis is popular because of awesome design, awesome voicework, awesome-ish storyline, and general villainy epicness. More importantly, she is something new that combines all of the above, so it's small wonder she's so prevalent in art and things at this point. Once the novelty wears off (I give it a month), she'll fall in line with the rest of the cast.

Also, I believe we're currently out of the bar outside of time, so conventional physics and causality are back in effect... for those around here who actually care about conventional physics and causality.
...which brings to mind the question.

Where is Tanghol?

I believe how that problem was resolved was by Anarion taking Tanghol back in time and throwing him off the bridge in place of Thanqol. Both are now deleted from the continuity, which is a relief, because now I don't have to work out/explain who/what Thanqol is.

Most things are being covered by... hmm, feels like a Jayden day today.


His name is Ted. Like Apple Bloom and friends, he was a late bloomer. Unlike those three, he got no hints from his name, as his parents had named him after a Griffon friend, so he didn't even know where to start. He tried everything. Then, one day, he went with his parents to Cookware and Hammocks and he saw... it.

It was the perfect frycook's spatula. (http://axecop.com/index.php/acepisodes/read/episode_1/)He could use it to fight crime! Donning a set of dark sunglasses and growing his best 70s moustache, he changed his name to Spatula Cop. He now defends Ponyville from all who threaten it!

... since there were no crimes or disasters in Ponyville until Twilight Sparkle showed up, he paid the bills by being a fry cook.

Entrynated!


I haven't forgotten you still owe me a question. And gosh darn it, you totally just made me write fanfiction. Short fanfiction, sure, but I've held off for so long.

Congratulations! Now you have written My Little Pony Fanfiction. That is a far less dirty phrase today than it was a year or two ago.


Item selected: a photo of Mt. McKinley by Ansel Adams that happened to be directly in front of me when I started going through the thread.
Picture: http://www.myfreewallpapers.net/artistic/wallpapers/ansel-adams-mckinley.jpg

Story
Snap Shot had never quite understood his name. Oh sure, from the moment of birth everypony knew he was going to be a photographer. It didn't matter that there had never been an artist in the family for at least three generations, with a name like Snap Shot, the very first thing his parents had bought him was a toy camera, and he'd been overjoyed ever since.

No, the problem with his name is that Snap Shot had never taken a quick photo in his life. When he started playing with that camera as a foal, he would take his time and line it up just so. Flower Wishes used to laugh at him for it when they started school because he would try and line up shots of her favorite daisies. Problem was, he had to readjust every time a little breeze blew them out of position. He was a perfectionist and he knew it. And that made him wonder what in the hay his parents were thinking naming him Snap Shot.

In 2nd grade, when some of his classmates began getting their cutie marks, he started getting a little worried. Particularly after even Firecracker Burst got her cutie mark and they had to hold classes in Twilight's library until all the ash had been cleared out and the floorboards replaced. He was a photographer, he had always known it. So why no cutie mark? It could have been a camera, or film, or a picture frame, but something should have come by this point.

The breakthrough, as breakthroughs are wont to do, came unexpectedly. Flower Wishes had begged him to come out hiking with her. Apparently there was a rare type of violet on the other side of the Ponyville mountains and her parents wouldn't let her hike that far alone, even though she was sure she would be fine and had totally hiked that far before and besides did they think she was still a foal that couldn't be trusted not to wander off somewhere? Faced with that sort of tirade, Snap Shot had no choice but to go, even though he thought it would be boring. He still wanted to take pictures and had been busy composing a new shot in his living room of his sister's stuffed animal collection. At least they didn't move in the wind.

He still had his camera, but he was less than sanguine about getting any shots. Still, they hiked. And hiked. And hiked. It occurred to Snap Shot that a spindly unicorn was, perhaps, not the best choice for a traveling companion. But he soldiered on anyway, while Flower kept looking to and fro, seeing if she could spot her rumored violets.

And then, they reached the top of the mountain. And down below, there was a sea of flowers, and a look, and yet another mountain in the distance. Snap Shot was tired, perhaps even a little delirious, and when he got there and finally stopped to rest, he moved without even thinking, lifted his camera and simply pressed the shutter. He put it back down and just turned to Flower: "It sure is beautiful isn't it? I wish I had the time to get the shot just right."

"Silly, she said, you just took a picture. I saw you! Now let's head down, I bet I see those violets in that valley down there!"

Snap Shot just sat in awe, before he picked up his camera, aimed it at the view and started clicking away, while a small landscape gradually appeared on his flank.

Entry added!


Two questions:

1) How long does this have to be? A little blurb, or a full-on story?

Whatever. It's judged entirely by my arbitrary whims.

Did I mention Fabulous Prizes?


2) When is the deadline?

If it's something short, I think I can crank something out.

I dunno. Tuesday?


Discussion time: We've talked a lot about Honesty, but what does it mean to be the Element of Kindness, and how does it differ from Generosity?

I dunno, it's being nice and stuff.


All right Thanqol, you ready for this? I put the thing in spoilers so people who don't want to read it don't have to.

His name's Dreamcatcher, His CM is, wouldn't ya know it, a dreamcatcher. He is an insomniac as well as a schizophrenic. He has an imaginary zebra friend named Bandia, and acknowledges the fact that he is not real. However, he's still fun to talk with sometimes. So, Dreamcatcher was a late bloomer, I mean Really late. He got his cutie mark because his father, Frederic Horshoepin (look him up on the MLP Wiki), was complaining of increasingly realistic nightmares. He ended up in the hospital, and Dreamcatcher decided to stay with him that night. Surprisingly, Dreamcatcher fell asleep, but his dream wasn't his own. He had entered his father's nightmare. Dreamcatcher watched as a creature, much akin to the weird black ooze pony that is now Thubby's pet, appears. It sits down at his Frederic's piano and starts playing a beautiful melody. Dreamcatcher finds his father and asks him why he is covering his ears. Frederic claims that he must cover his ears because the ooze pony is emitting an awful screeching sound, which he can't block out, even though he's covering his ears. Dreamcatcher eventually convinces his father to uncover his ears, and he hears the beautiful music as well. The creature beckons for Frederic to sit next to it and play along with it. Frederic does in fact sit down next to it and helps to make the song even more amazing. The two ponies stand and take a bow to the sound of thunderous applause. The creature fades away, and the dream ends. Dreamcatcher wakes up, in the early morning to find that he now has his cutie mark, and Frederic is sleeping peacefully. He awakens moments later, and thanks his son.

So there you have it. I pray to Faust that this is decent. Also, I have to thank you, now I have a possible idea for my next fanfic. Speaking of which...

*Clicks open Fimfiction tab and begins typing next chapter of Clockwork.*

Entry'd!

[MCerberus]

wouldn't work

the moment Chrysalis tried to replace Fluttershy and feed off of Trixies love Trixie would realize it and kick her flank 8 ways to sunday

No, Chrysalis would replace the one Trixie loves most.
Trixie.

[Alabenson]

No, Chrysalis would replace the one Trixie loves most.
Trixie.

...given that, I can actually see Chrysixie being a workable ship.

Oh, who I am kidding. In this fandom, almost anything is a workable ship.

[Kd7sov]

Alright, I think its time sort out the episodes in the proper order. I just watched the Supersqueezy 6000 and realized the Apple family is indeed preparing for the winter, yet this episode appears after the Christmas special episode.

Any pony want to help me sort out season 2 as well as season 1 for the chronological order?:smallsmile:

I'm no good at this sort of thing, so I'll simply offer one thing:

I choose to believe that the entirety of Season 1 happens before any of Season 2. (Naturally this makes Secret of my Excess a little difficult, but maybe Spike's last birthday fell during Look Before You Sleep or some such.)

[Anarion]

@Celestia love discussion:
I assumed it was simply that you need two ponies. Shining Armor couldn't power a spell with his love for Cadence-and Cadence couldn't power a spell with her love either. But together, she can power HIS spell.
Or, presumably, vice-versa.

While Celestia may or may not love her people more... they can't all touch their horns to hers at once. :smalltongue:

I agree with Lixie, it seems to require more than one pony in active contact for ponies to harness the power of love.



And I do think Celestia should be able to tap into this power just like Chrysalis does. Because apparently Love is another form of magic like Friendship, or a kind of Friendship perhaps. Either way, I can't see any reason why Celestia couldn't use her love for her subjects to power her magic when she's in a battle to defend those same subjects.


More generally, I think this may be the place where you're having trouble. Changelings and ponies probably do not tap into the power of love in the same manner.

Do you play Magic: The Gathering? I have a really good Magic card example, so I'm just going to assume yes and I'm sure if you don't, somepony else will explain it.

Chrysalis harnesses power from other ponies the way that a piece of equipment works in Magic: The Gathering. There is some initial investment of mana/magic from Chrysalis and then once they're enthralled, she draws power from that pony and gets a permanent bonus. Shining armor was particularly strong, so he was giving her something like +7/+7 while acting as her power battery.

Shining Armor+Cadence is more like a special multi-card combo, such as Channel+Fireball; Melira+sacrifice outlet+Murderous Redcap; or Deceiver Exarch+Kiki Jikki. On their own each has some specific power and they aren't necessarily designed by the rules of the game to work together, but they just happen to have the perfect combination of abilities to do something really powerful and unexpected.

Celestia doesn't directly harness the power of love at all. She could, if the right set of conditions happened to occur, but that's not her normal power source and she doesn't naturally know how to draw upon it. She's just a big 8/8 (give or take) flyer that is stronger than most things out there.

Edit: and the Elements of Harmony are Coalition Victory. (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=109718)

[Metahuman1]

Though on Chrysalis's power of love tap being more powerful then Celestia:


It wasn't more powerful then Celestia, it was more powerful then Celestia's opening attack. Which Celestia though would be more then enough to finish Chrysalis, but wasn't her full power. Thus, she was surprised, didn't react fast enough when the attack didn't work, and took a solid direct hit, which took her out of the fighting, much to everypony and Chrysalis's surprise. She didn't lose because her love wasn't strong enough, she lost cause she didn't use all of her power at her disposal.


If they got a rematch, My Money's on Celestia.

[Anarion]

Though on Chrysalis's power of love tap being more powerful then Celestia:


It wasn't more powerful then Celestia, it was more powerful then Celestia's opening attack. Which Celestia though would be more then enough to finish Chrysalis, but wasn't her full power. Thus, she was surprised, didn't react fast enough when the attack didn't work, and took a solid direct hit, which took her out of the fighting, much to everypony and Chrysalis's surprise. She didn't lose because her love wasn't strong enough, she lost cause she didn't use all of her power at her disposal.


If they got a rematch, My Money's on Celestia.

It was a beam war though. And one with enough time for Celestia to realize she was losing. I think if she had any raw power left, she would have used it. Now, if you want to argue that she was more magically skilled and had a variety of effective powers at her disposal that would have worked better than attempting to blast face, I would agree with you there.

[Kairaven]

re imagining time!

Kungfu/Wuxia ponies!

Young mare Twilight Sparkle, top student of Master Celestia, Undefeated of the Heavens, creator of the Friendship Style school of kungfu. Directed by her master to seek the better understanding of the final technique of The Friendship Style kungfu, The Harmonic Six Hooves Strike. She travels into the perilous realm of Pony jianghu and on her path to Pony kungfu mastery.

Rarity! traveling silk merchant but also the young inheritor of the Dazzling Gem sword style.

Applejack of the Ponyville Apple Clan, masters of the Immovable Apple Bucking technique.

Pinkie Pie, the Laughing Hoof, freedom loving master of the Giggling Touch.

Fluttershy, master acupuncture healer and practitioner of the Gentle Path style of Deflecting Defense.

Rainbow Dash, Young brash prodigy of the Wonderbolt school of Thundering Wing, said to have mastered several techniques already including, The lighting Wing Slash, and the legendary Seven Hued Rainboom Strike.

The delicate balance of harmony is shattered when news comes of Master Celestia's rumored defeat at the hoof of "The Nightmare of the Darkened Moon" A fearsome pugilist of legend.

Will Twilight master the Friendship style before pony jianghu descents into choas? Will she be able to defeat The Nightmare and avenge her tearcher?

[Luka]

Music

I dislike music :smalltongue:

[Kyouhen]

...given that, I can actually see Chrysixie being a workable ship.

Oh, who I am kidding. In this fandom, almost anything is a workable ship.

Almost? :smalltongue:


It was a beam war though. And one with enough time for Celestia to realize she was losing. I think if she had any raw power left, she would have used it. Now, if you want to argue that she was more magically skilled and had a variety of effective powers at her disposal that would have worked better than attempting to blast face, I would agree with you there.

True Celestia had time to react, but that time would have vanished immediately if she called off her beam. I'm going under the assumption that the beam has a set power level, functioning more as a specific type of spell based on the general power of the caster instead of just being raw force. Once cast Celestia can't invest more power into it, and if she simply broke off she would have been blasted by Chrysalis anyway.

[thubby]

I dislike music :smalltongue:

*holds up "gummy" menacingly*
get out :smallannoyed:

[Kairaven]

20 min ago - Love is in Bloom extended version posted in Equestria Daily
10 min later - up on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIr2GlNoGGA)


How many more minutes until HD quality rip?
How long til Remixes?

Fast fandom is fast

[Alabenson]

*holds up "gummy" menacingly*
get out :smallannoyed:

*holds up Igor menacingly*
I concur...oh, who am I kidding? FIRE!

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Orbital_dfe9b3_2410111.jpg
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/261/f/3/orbital_friendship_cannon_by_aeroytechyon_x-d4a7to1.png
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/352/b/9/orbital_friendship_cannon___hate_detected_by_delta raen-d4jfl6l.jpg
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/10/17/220ac7a9-8795-473f-ab12-4b74d1e55cfa.gif
Ah, there's nothing quite like bombarding a fresh thread with orbital superweapons.

[Anarion]

re imagining time!

Kungfu/Wuxia ponies!

Young mare Twilight Sparkle, top student of Master Celestia, Undefeated of the Heavens, creator of the Friendship Style school of kungfu. Directed by her master to seek the better understanding of the final technique of The Friendship Style kungfu, The Harmonic Six Hooves Strike. She travels into the perilous realm of Pony jianghu and on her path to Pony kungfu mastery.

Rarity! traveling silk merchant but also the young inheritor of the Dazzling Gem sword style.

Applejack of the Ponyville Apple Clan, masters of the Immovable Apple Bucking technique.

Pinkie Pie, the Laughing Hoof, freedom loving master of the Giggling Touch.

Fluttershy, master acupuncture healer and practitioner of the Gentle Path style of Deflecting Defense.

Rainbow Dash, Young brash prodigy of the Wonderbolt school of Thundering Wing, said to have mastered several techniques already including, The lighting Wing Slash, and the legendary Seven Hued Rainboom Strike.

The delicate balance of harmony is shattered when news comes of Master Celestia's rumored defeat at the hoof of "The Nightmare of the Darkened Moon" A fearsome pugilist of legend.

Will Twilight master the Friendship style before pony jianghu descents into choas? Will she be able to defeat The Nightmare and avenge her tearcher?

I want to play this game, badly.
Please run this!

[Luka]

*holds up Igor menacingly*
I concur...oh, who am I kidding? FIRE!

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Orbital_dfe9b3_2410111.jpg
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/261/f/3/orbital_friendship_cannon_by_aeroytechyon_x-d4a7to1.png
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/352/b/9/orbital_friendship_cannon___hate_detected_by_delta raen-d4jfl6l.jpg
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/10/17/220ac7a9-8795-473f-ab12-4b74d1e55cfa.gif
Ah, there's nothing quite like bombarding a fresh thread with orbital superweapons.

pfff. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9u-MaNNDnU) Orbital Awesomeness Cannons are just better

[Tiki Snakes]

Shining Armour's spell wasn't powered by Love. Shining Armour was re-energised by Cadences love, allowing him to fire off his repulsor-sheild-spell thingy. Chrysalis didn't see it coming because she missed that logical step as ponies can't derive magical power directly from love.

Celestia,(probably) not being a changeling, draws no power from emotions or things such as love. The Elements of Harmony are specific macguffins rather than anything more general.

Also, I tend to prefer the idea that Changelings specifically and exclusively feed on love in order to replenish their magical powers, rather than as general sustenance. If starved long enough of affection, they would be stuck as their mundane selves, no shape shifting or unicorn-style magic and possibly not even anything beyond awkward bumble-beeish flight.

[otakuryoga]

20 min ago - Love is in Bloom extended version posted in Equestria Daily
10 min later - up on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIr2GlNoGGA)


How many more minutes until HD quality rip?
How long til Remixes?

Fast fandom is fast

hrmmmm....it unfortunately has a line in there about "the pony way"
i say unfortunately because it really is good enough i could see it getting used in non brony weddings(after being suggested to friends by bronies who just fail to mention where it came from) why, yes, i was going to do JUST that if they released the full version before a friends upcoming wedding
but that pony line would make that much more difficult

[Kyouhen]

hrmmmm....it unfortunately has a line in there about "the pony way"
i say unfortunately because it really is good enough i could see it getting used in non brony weddings(after being suggested to friends by bronies who just fail to mention where it came from) why, yes, i was going to do JUST that if they released the full version before a friends upcoming wedding
but that pony line would make that much more difficult

My sister was actually really mad when she heard that song. One of her friends is getting married and last month they were accepting requests for music to play at the reception. My sister wanted something pony-based (not sure what she settled on) but Love Is In Bloom would have been a perfect choice. :smalltongue:

[Pokonic]

*holds up Igor menacingly*
I concur...oh, who am I kidding? FIRE!

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Orbital_dfe9b3_2410111.jpg
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/261/f/3/orbital_friendship_cannon_by_aeroytechyon_x-d4a7to1.png
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/352/b/9/orbital_friendship_cannon___hate_detected_by_delta raen-d4jfl6l.jpg
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/10/17/220ac7a9-8795-473f-ab12-4b74d1e55cfa.gif
Ah, there's nothing quite like bombarding a fresh thread with orbital superweapons.

"Slightly upset at the fact his cup of tea cracks in his hooves"

Hey, dont you know what those bloody things do to the enviroment! Not everyone likes colorful snow, I assure you! Stop using those things, the men are scared for there familes and the childeren fear the outside!

[Alabenson]

"Slightly upset at the fact his cup of tea cracks in his hooves"

Hey, dont you know what those bloody things do to the enviroment! Not everyone likes colorful snow, I assure you! Stop using those things, the men are scared for there familes and the childeren fear the outside!

Sir, I am shocked and appalled at your insinuation that I am unconcerned about the effects of repeated low-orbit discharge of energized friendship on the environment. I would like to assure everypony that I am absolutely not conducting experiments on the long-term effects of residual, high-energy friendship exposure on ponythread, and I most certainly have not modified my fleet of OFCs to ensure maximum atmospheric fallout.
Furthermore, I would like to take this opportunity to dispel the ludicrous rumors that I have been kidnapping ponies to use in my experi…Igor! Get back to the lab with that this instant!

Ook.
*walks off with a struggling potato sack*

[Eakin]

hrmmmm....it unfortunately has a line in there about "the pony way"
i say unfortunately because it really is good enough i could see it getting used in non brony weddings(after being suggested to friends by bronies who just fail to mention where it came from) why, yes, i was going to do JUST that if they released the full version before a friends upcoming wedding
but that pony line would make that much more difficult


My sister was actually really mad when she heard that song. One of her friends is getting married and last month they were accepting requests for music to play at the reception. My sister wanted something pony-based (not sure what she settled on) but Love Is In Bloom would have been a perfect choice. :smalltongue:

Try the Archie V remix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH82nb0ltjs)

Also, maybe this has been mentioned in the last couple pages but you DO know that "3" in roman numerals is III and not IIV right?

[Silverraptor]

I'm no good at this sort of thing, so I'll simply offer one thing:

I choose to believe that the entirety of Season 1 happens before any of Season 2. (Naturally this makes Secret of my Excess a little difficult, but maybe Spike's last birthday fell during Look Before You Sleep or some such.)

I'm also going to assume season 1 happened before season 2. And as for sorting, all it takes is watching it and noticing events that make more sense if a future episode was put before it.


*holds up Igor menacingly*
I concur...oh, who am I kidding? FIRE!

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Orbital_dfe9b3_2410111.jpg
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/261/f/3/orbital_friendship_cannon_by_aeroytechyon_x-d4a7to1.png
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/352/b/9/orbital_friendship_cannon___hate_detected_by_delta raen-d4jfl6l.jpg
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/10/17/220ac7a9-8795-473f-ab12-4b74d1e55cfa.gif
Ah, there's nothing quite like bombarding a fresh thread with orbital superweapons.

When are we going to have the Love bomb from the wedding special added to this arsonel?

[Kd7sov]

Also, maybe this has been mentioned in the last couple pages but you DO know that "3" in roman numerals is III and not IIV right?

Wait, you mean I didn't miss five threads? With the speed you guys move, I wasn't sure...:smalltongue:

[Eakin]

Wait, you mean I didn't miss five threads? With the speed you guys move, I wasn't sure...:smalltongue:

...That would be VII

The thread title should be XLIII

[BlasTech]

pfff. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9u-MaNNDnU) Orbital Awesomeness Cannons are just better

Something like this then?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/140/531/5880f256df28799b1cb838d25fbf2830-d3ivn99.png


20 min ago - Love is in Bloom extended version posted in Equestria Daily
10 min later - up on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIr2GlNoGGA)


How many more minutes until HD quality rip?
How long til Remixes?

Fast fandom is fast

How fast till Eurobeat? :smalltongue:

[Alabenson]

When are we going to have the Love bomb from the wedding special added to this arsonel?

Unfortunately, research into weaponizing love has stalled due to the persistent confusion regarding generation methods.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/116/8/d/the_magic_of_love_by_csimadmax-d4xo0n7.png

[thubby]

Try the Archie V remix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH82nb0ltjs)

Also, maybe this has been mentioned in the last couple pages but you DO know that "3" in roman numerals is III and not IIV right?

sweet thor this fandom works fast.


Unfortunately, research into weaponizing love has stalled due to the persistent confusion regarding generation methods.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/116/8/d/the_magic_of_love_by_csimadmax-d4xo0n7.png
*float into the bar upside down*
i was making progress before the incident. you're welcome to my research. just stay away from the folder marked "thanqol"
that's what lead to.... OH PANCAKES
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__S6hOvBYnN4/TUG--d6oANI/AAAAAAAAABE/tj8pZCX57sM/s400/amanda-myers-evil-pancake.gif

[Mewtarthio]

Ah yes, that brings up another question. Does Celestia's defeat imply that her love for her subjects is somehow less than Shining Armor's love for Cadence?

More evidence for my fanon that Celestia is so very, very alone.


I'm also going to assume season 1 happened before season 2. And as for sorting, all it takes is watching it and noticing events that make more sense if a future episode was put before it.

I will note that I once heard the fanon that "Putting Your Hoof Down" takes place before S1E1, and that all the confidence she'd shown before That Episode was based on the lessons she learned therein. Makes the episode much more palatable. I still wouldn't say it's palatable at all, but it's better than taking the chronology at face value.

[Pokonic]

Sir, I am shocked and appalled at your insinuation that I am unconcerned about the effects of repeated low-orbit discharge of energized friendship on the environment. I would like to assure everypony that I am absolutely not conducting experiments on the long-term effects of residual, high-energy friendship exposure on ponythread, and I most certainly have not modified my fleet of OFCs to ensure maximum atmospheric fallout.
Furthermore, I would like to take this opportunity to dispel the ludicrous rumors that I have been kidnapping ponies to use in my experi…Igor! Get back to the lab with that this instant!

Ook.
*walks off with a struggling potato sack*

Wait a moment, you have been kidnapping ponies? Why, my good stallion, I have a idea: how about criminals and scum sent to you personaly, little cost to you, if you can mearly find a alternitive to the currant PONE-emitting death beams you are already using? I can supply you with the most potent of solidfied necrotic energy harvested from the darkest bowls of the outer planes as a show of good will if we can mearly come to a agreement. Is alternitive energy not the new thing nowadays?

[Luka]

Something like this then?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/140/531/5880f256df28799b1cb838d25fbf2830-d3ivn99.png

I was actually expecting something like this (http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15500000/SHOOP-DA-WHOOP-all-about-gemini759-15578744-1920-1200.jpg) :smallbiggrin:

[RdMarquis]

I don't know if that was suggested before, but it fits neatly into previous Gens of MLP :smalltongue:


http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/c40224ead782cd52cebdeb480bb66fcd/171270%20-%20artist%3Aharetrinity%20changeling%20Chrysalis%2 0comic%20flutter_pony.jpg

This will present some problems when the Schmooze rears its ugly head again. Especially if they lost the ability to get rid of it. Or worse, they could hold Equestria ransom.


Current standings for Best Twilight Moment:
Twilight & Future Twilight: 5
Starswirl Costume: 1
This is MY BOOK! And I'm gonna READ IT!!: 2
Disaster proof Equestria!: 1
Do it for Equestria! Do it for Rainbow Dash! Do it for yourself!
I'm going to do what I do best; Lecture her!: 2
Twilight's Awkward Dance: 1
Necklace, Necklace, Necklace, Necklace, and Big Crown Thingy!: 1
Twilight Loves Smarty Pants: 1
Sleep Deprived Crazy Twilight: 2
Congratulations, you're the new Rainbow Dash: 1
Clock is ticking Twilight. CLOCK. IS. TICKING!: 1
Gollumn Twilight: 1
Twilight Rereads Friendship Reports: 1


Nominations will continue until people stop nominating.

I'd like to toss my vote in for This is MY BOOK! please.


re imagining time!

Kungfu/Wuxia ponies!

Young mare Twilight Sparkle, top student of Master Celestia, Undefeated of the Heavens, creator of the Friendship Style school of kungfu. Directed by her master to seek the better understanding of the final technique of The Friendship Style kungfu, The Harmonic Six Hooves Strike. She travels into the perilous realm of Pony jianghu and on her path to Pony kungfu mastery.

Rarity! traveling silk merchant but also the young inheritor of the Dazzling Gem sword style.

Applejack of the Ponyville Apple Clan, masters of the Immovable Apple Bucking technique.

Pinkie Pie, the Laughing Hoof, freedom loving master of the Giggling Touch.

Fluttershy, master acupuncture healer and practitioner of the Gentle Path style of Deflecting Defense.

Rainbow Dash, Young brash prodigy of the Wonderbolt school of Thundering Wing, said to have mastered several techniques already including, The lighting Wing Slash, and the legendary Seven Hued Rainboom Strike.

The delicate balance of harmony is shattered when news comes of Master Celestia's rumored defeat at the hoof of "The Nightmare of the Darkened Moon" A fearsome pugilist of legend.

Will Twilight master the Friendship style before pony jianghu descents into choas? Will she be able to defeat The Nightmare and avenge her tearcher?

Heck, yes. :smallbiggrin: Especially considering how much I like Return of the Condor Heroes.

[otakuryoga]

dear sweet ponysanity!

mosaic made with screencaps..every episode represented..no screencap reused

Dude has WAY too much time on his hands..but BRAVO! (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/115/7/2/mlp_fim_mosaic_ver_season2_by_terrorlone-d4xktwd.jpg)

[SiuiS]

So, why is it that the week my internet goes out, ponythread shoots along like Derpy after muffins and the moment I get it back, everypony disappears...?

(Wait, it's just the typical Friday slowdown, isn't it? Ah, I dunno whether I'm coming or going at the moment...)

I dunno. It's frustrating sometimes though...


For me there's a few reasons. First, and probably best, is that she's easily the most evil of the three villains we've seen. Nightmare Moon was acting entirely out of jealousy. Discord's too obsessed with having his fun. Chrysalis? She's a creature who feeds on love. It's in her nature to kidnap those you love and replace them. Her motivation for being evil is that it's an inherent trait of changelings, which the other two were more just their personality.

Second, as has already been mentioned, is her character design. This is closer to the type of villain everyone thought Discord was going to be when we first heard about him. Pony insects are just creepy. I also loved the way they handled her movement, she's like Rainbow Dash in that she rarely walks. Instead she keeps buzzing around every few feet, and even when she's walking if her wings are out they're flapping.

Third is her appearance. I went into this episode expecting something closer to Best Night Ever. Instead I got a new villain who commands her own army. That and the big reveal for her was SO. AWESOME. http://i.imgur.com/Dy4NS.jpg

So, wait

Lions are inherently more evil than cannibal murderers because killing is in their nature?

[Alabenson]

Wait a moment, you have been kidnapping ponies? Why, my good stallion, I have a idea: how about criminals and scum sent to you personaly, little cost to you, if you can mearly find a alternitive to the currant PONE-emitting death beams you are already using? I can supply you with the most potent of solidfied necrotic energy harvested from the darkest bowls of the outer planes as a show of good will if we can mearly come to a agreement. Is alternitive energy not the new thing nowadays?

What? As I just explained I am absolutely not, nor have I ever been, involved in the kidnapping of ponies for use in scientific experimentation.
*A pony-shaped potato sack runs by, being chased by a mallet-brandishing Igor*
...That was...a rat. Yes, definitely a rat. I sure have a serious rat problem...here on my airship. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to help Igor. Deal with the rat problem. That I have.

[thubby]

dear sweet ponysanity!

mosaic made with screencaps..every episode represented..no screencap reused

Dude has WAY too much time on his hands..but BRAVO! (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/115/7/2/mlp_fim_mosaic_ver_season2_by_terrorlone-d4xktwd.jpg)

actually, the sky is made up of a shot of discord when we first see him repeated more than a few times.

still really impressive though.

[Pokonic]

What? As I just explained I am absolutely not, nor have I ever been, involved in the kidnapping of ponies for use in scientific experimentation.
*A pony-shaped potato sack runs by, being chased by a mallet-brandishing Igor*
...That was...a rat. Yes, definitely a rat. I sure have a serious rat problem...here on my airship. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to help Igor. Deal with the rat problem. That I have.

Silly, there not ponies. There horses. No one can say they are not, after all, if they have no actual way of disputing the paperwork on them that was collected by the Cult. There animals, after all. I am simply sending them to a farm in order to help a pony to set a new, cost efficant energy supply for there own benifit.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Celestia wasn't powerless beforehand either. Both have some power to begin with, so you're saying only Chrysalis can tap into the power of Love?

Turn it around why would you think for a moment Celestia can? Its never stated anywhere and Love is not among the EoH which is the only "external" magical source she is known for her. So why does Celestia get a power boost from the Power of Love?

When you assume a requirement into existence then the problem isn't in the show if it isn't upheld.


I don't know, seems perhaps mildly insulting to Celestia's love to say it's not as great as some other kind of love.

To get deeply philosophical for a moment that's getting it backwards. Love is a deep connection between two people. While I've know doubt Celestia intellectually cares for her subjects she can only even know a fraction of them, much less have any kind of personal bond that can be called love. Because she can't even know them. To push beyond that is well frankly just beyond her.

It requires her to not merely be, but to be omnipresent. To be not even merely goddess... but God. To borrow the Dresden File's distinction.

That's not a requirement she can meet by concept. I've no doubt Celestia loves Luna as a sister and Twilight as mentor/mother figure, but that covers characters we know who have any kind of personal connection with her. We can infer though that any Shining Armor to her Cadence either didn't work out or is long over. Which is the price being an ageless sorceress queen incurs, its lonely at the top, etc...

(To supplement this are you familiar with the idea of the Four Loves?)



When are we going to have the Love bomb from the wedding special added to this arsonel?

We haven't already:

The Hooves of ours are Burning Red!
Their loud cry tells us...
...to grasp happiness! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u68ps4OUpoM&feature=g-u-u)


Current standings for Best Twilight Moment:
Twilight & Future Twilight: 5
Starswirl Costume: 1
This is MY BOOK! And I'm gonna READ IT!!: 2
Disaster proof Equestria!: 1
Do it for Equestria! Do it for Rainbow Dash! Do it for yourself!
I'm going to do what I do best; Lecture her!: 2
Twilight's Awkward Dance: 1
Necklace, Necklace, Necklace, Necklace, and Big Crown Thingy!: 1
Twilight Loves Smarty Pants: 1
Sleep Deprived Crazy Twilight: 2
Congratulations, you're the new Rainbow Dash: 1
Clock is ticking Twilight. CLOCK. IS. TICKING!: 1
Gollumn Twilight: 1
Twilight Rereads Friendship Reports: 1


Nominations will continue until people stop nominating.

Hmm needs more serious scenes (this isn't funniest Twilight moment)

So let me throw out Twilight's BBBFF w/ or w/o the song its still one of her major development scenes for the seaon.

(If you feel nessecary deduct one from Future Twilight)


I was actually expecting something like this (http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15500000/SHOOP-DA-WHOOP-all-about-gemini759-15578744-1920-1200.jpg) :smallbiggrin:

Don't see much difference honestly... except why'd they censor Mistress Nanoha (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/Empyrrean/StarlightBreakerPoster.jpg?t=1302710352) in your pic?

[Kyouhen]

So, wait

Lions are inherently more evil than cannibal murderers because killing is in their nature?

Nope, because lions tend to leave very little waste. If they only ate the legs of their prey then it would be somewhat more evil, but I'm reluctant to put anything with animal intelligence in the 'evil' category anyway.

Feeding on emotions like the Windigos is one thing. Though they're extremely dangerous, they're still largely just animals doing what they do. The changelings have the inherently unpleasant (I'll avoid calling it 'evil' to avoid any more animal comparisons :smalltongue:) trait of feeding on love. They've evolved to be quite effective at stealing love from others to feed on. On top of that, they're more intelligent than animals and bring those oh-so-wonderful traits like gluttony and a thirst for power with this ability. They're smart, they could probably find a way to feed without hurting anypony. They could just change into some unique pony and live peacefully among the ponies. Do they? No. They go and invade the capital so they can just take whatever love they want. (I have no idea how they would do this, or how Chrysalis expected to get love after revealing herself to the world. Unless she was planning on completely replacing all of Canterlot and using it as a base of operations to infiltrate and feed off the other cities.)

[PhantomFox]

I was actually expecting something like this (http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15500000/SHOOP-DA-WHOOP-all-about-gemini759-15578744-1920-1200.jpg) :smallbiggrin:

Y'know, I'm tempted to just invite you down to one of my Synchtube pony-watching parties, cue up a few favorites, and let you decide one way or another.

[Alabenson]

Silly, there not ponies. There horses. No one can say they are not, after all, if they have no actual way of disputing the paperwork on them that was collected by the Cult. There animals, after all. I am simply sending them to a farm in order to help a pony to set a new, cost efficant energy supply for there own benifit.

I'm sorry, but I can't in good conscience accept your proposal. It would be wrong to experiment on ponies against their will.
...Celestia cut off your funding for the mutant superpony project, didn't she?
*sob* They would have been able to breath concentrated beams of friendship energy! It would have been glorious!

[Noctemwolf]

So, as I never know what's going on =P


I'm trying out for a part in this little project by Bowserkid9 and Philsterman10:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kjzk5jSwfo

I think I'll do pretty well... It's my first time auditioning for something like this though. :smalleek:

[SiuiS]

Unfortunately, research into weaponizing love has stalled due to the persistent confusion regarding generation methods.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/116/8/d/the_magic_of_love_by_csimadmax-d4xo0n7.png

Intend to write this...

What do you say ponythread? My resume includes Apple family cannibalism, Blueblood as a key member of Celestia's special tasks Group, a unicorn selling his soul for resolve, and intentionally disturbing vignettes from a xenomorph's love life.

Am I qualified to write Celestia receiving the most awkward friendship letters from around the world?

Keep in mind my terrible pace of production, mind. And that I don't think Satire as a tag would protect me from the board rules.

edit:
SISTERS ABOVE! NOCTEMWOLF!?
Thought you were off to basic? Good to see you mate! Pull up a chair, regale us with your adventures! :smallsmile:

[Noctemwolf]

Intend to write this...

What do you say ponythread? My resume includes Apple family cannibalism, Blueblood as a key member of Celestia's special tasks Group, a unicorn selling his soul for resolve, and intentionally disturbing vignettes from a xenomorph's love life.


DO IT! I WANT TO READ!



edit:
SISTERS ABOVE! NOCTEMWOLF!?
Thought you were off to basic? Good to see you mate! Pull up a chair, regale us with your adventures! :smallsmile:

I came out of basic about a week ago. It was.... an Interesting experience, to be honest. X)


First things, first, I suppose...


The first day we got there, the first things said to us:

"Get off the damn bus."

Already, things were horrible.

Quickly we were rushed upstairs and had to shower, shave, and brush our teeth all within about the space of two minutes. While we were unpacking, we were all forced to stop due to one pair giggling in the back. We stood around for half an hour while the MTI (Military Training Instructor) waited for him to tell a joke that made him laugh.

We met our actual MTI sometime after that night. Man, he was an interesting character, let me tell you.
He didn't swear at us. No, no no. He didn't have to. the time we spent pushing on our faces was more than enough.

We learned drill, we learned customs and courtesies, we had to take our hats off as we entered a building and put them on as we left.

We had books to study on a lot of basic military subjects, and pretty much had to study them whenever we got the chance, which wasn't very often.

The most difficult part, though, was just how detailed and neat we had to keep everything. and I mean EVERYTHING. T-shirts had to bee rolled PERFECTLY. completely flush, flat, and grounded. the top facing the rear of the wall locker. Towels flush and folded just so. NO strings on our uniforms (And trust me, they checked every inch of those things). No dust bunnies on the floors, hospital corners at 90 degrees... and you had to insure you did NOT, and I mean DID NOT, screw up on Entry Controller duty. no one was allowed to enter your dormitory unless they were authorized first.

Anyways... X)

I was so afraid the whole time of getting recycled (The term used for sending you back in weeks if you weren't up to standard). I broke down about halfway through 2nd week. I was dribbling like a little baby!

WE got to go through a program called BEAST, which was a simulated combat environment. the best of that was sleeping in Tents. during a tornado. =)

There was a tornado that touched down near our campsite while we were in the tents. those winds were howling like crazy. and you know what? I only woke up once. Because I had to pee. :smallcool:

We had to do anything we could to keep ourselves sane. When the MTI wasn't there after we finished details, we would play baseball with a paper ball and a mop handle. I taught everyone silly riddle games like Green Glass Door, and we would constantly joke about our MTI and the silly things he and our Brother flight MTI would say.

Our favorites were probably "Get outta the way!" and "NO!" it was the way he said it, more than what he said.

We also had another phrase we had borrowed from a different MTI:
"I'm a Honey Badger. I do what I want".

all in all, our flight did average. we weren't the best, but we were fairly decent at everything, Our marching, our PT, our tests.

Boy, the MTI's could be scary, especially when you did something wrong. and you could not LAUGH at all if they did or said something funny. you would be drilled for that. Hard. They had so much fun testing us on our knowledge of your studies right after dinner.

some of the funnier things they did and/or said:

I heard one sing the Mario theme song AT somebody. It was weird as anything.
And another hum circus clown music whenever a Trainee did something wrong.

I ended up failing on of my final locker inspections and nearly lost what little time I would have been able to spend on the town... but, luckily, I was able to work things out so I could. and San Antonio was AMAZING. I'm glad I was able to go and explore it. =)

I met a few people I might consider friends... but i barely see any of the ones that made it to the same tech school as me.

Speaking of which, I am currently sitting here writing in Mississippi. and it's the weekend. AWWWW Yeah!

[Admiral Squish]

Ahh, yes, basic. Really, it amazes me what humans can get used to when given no other option. I was in the navy for a few years, and it was... quite the experience.

[Rebelhero]

*kicks door down and combat rolls into thread.*
FIRE IN THE HOLE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XeRvZvBCRyI#!)
*jumps out window*

[otakuryoga]

actually, the sky is made up of a shot of discord when we first see him repeated more than a few times.

still really impressive though.

i was just going by what the claim was on eqd
but even so...multi second shot of disqord..2 screen caps a second..that is at least ten "same" shots that aren't

[Sean Mirrsen]

i was just going by what the claim was on eqd
but even so...multi second shot of disqord..2 screen caps a second..that is at least ten "same" shots that aren'tYeah, there's a lot of "technically different" shots that are more or less the same. Still, it's rather impressive.

[darthbobcat]

Unfortunately, research into weaponizing love has stalled due to the persistent confusion regarding generation methods.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/116/8/d/the_magic_of_love_by_csimadmax-d4xo0n7.png

Right. Unicorns produce love from the appendix. (I wonder how many people around here remember THAT reference?)

Also, because self promotion is the best promotion, my co-host Burkion and I reviewed an anime that had giant robots, ghosts, conspiracies, Vatican demon hunters and the demons they hunt. (http://fivepointpodcast.blogspot.com/2012/04/asura-cryin-review.html)

[Tvtyrant]

Unfortunately, research into weaponizing love has stalled due to the persistent confusion regarding generation methods.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/116/8/d/the_magic_of_love_by_csimadmax-d4xo0n7.png

He looks so disappointed at the end. Although who wouldn't, that would be the best assignment ever. Effectively "write the Karma Sutra please."

[Welf]

Right. Unicorns produce love from the appendix. (I wonder how many people around here remember THAT reference?)

Ah, the good old times when we knew lions were evil and cannibalism wasn't. http://i.imgur.com/xJr4u.png

[Emperordaniel]

Alright, I think its time sort out the episodes in the proper order. I just watched the Supersqueezy 6000 and realized the Apple family is indeed preparing for the winter, yet this episode appears after the Christmas special episode.

Any pony want to help me sort out season 2 as well as season 1 for the chronological order?:smallsmile:

I did that weeks ago; might have to revise it slightly (i.e. add the last few episodes to the list), but otherwise, I think I might've got it. :smallsmile:

[Thanqol]

Right. Unicorns produce love from the appendix. (I wonder how many people around here remember THAT reference?)

I made the video of that reference.



POKONIC (or whoever it was who got that contest drawrequest off me?), you asked for the FULL PONYTHREAD ELEMENTS OF HARMONY to be drawn by me.

WELL LET NO ONE SAY I HALF-ASS CONTEST REWARDS

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/119/7/9/day_347__artponies_by_thanqol-d4xx5fm.png

"What is it, SiuiS?"
"You see, Mask, a long time ago a bunch of friends decided they, too, could wield the elements of harmony. However, the group of friends was closer to forty than six. After a while, the elements started getting very silly."

Fullview here (http://thanqol.deviantart.com/art/Day-347-Artponies-298838722)

I USED MY FULL ASS

[Sean Mirrsen]

I made the video of that reference.



POKONIC (or whoever it was who got that contest drawrequest off me?), you asked for the FULL PONYTHREAD ELEMENTS OF HARMONY to be drawn by me.

WELL LET NO ONE SAY I HALF-ASS CONTEST REWARDS

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/119/3/1/day_347__artponies_by_thanqol-d4xx5fm.png

"What is it, SiuiS?"
"You see, Mask, a long time ago a bunch of friends decided they, too, could wield the elements of harmony. However, the group of friends was closer to forty than six. After a while, the elements started getting very silly."

Fullview here (http://thanqol.deviantart.com/art/Day-347-Artponies-298838722)

I USED MY FULL ASSHeheh. You may as well have drawn a pool table, I think it'd fit just perfectly. You might want to label some of those though.

Also, I like how the cracks spread through the air. :smalltongue:

[Soras Teva Gee]

I made the video of that reference.



POKONIC (or whoever it was who got that contest drawrequest off me?), you asked for the FULL PONYTHREAD ELEMENTS OF HARMONY to be drawn by me.

WELL LET NO ONE SAY I HALF-ASS CONTEST REWARDS

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/119/3/1/day_347__artponies_by_thanqol-d4xx5fm.png

"What is it, SiuiS?"
"You see, Mask, a long time ago a bunch of friends decided they, too, could wield the elements of harmony. However, the group of friends was closer to forty than six. After a while, the elements started getting very silly."

Fullview here (http://thanqol.deviantart.com/art/Day-347-Artponies-298838722)

I USED MY FULL ASS

So any particular hidden meaning in what Element of Ponythread is where?

[Thanqol]

Heheh. You may as well have drawn a pool table, I think it'd fit just perfectly. You might want to label some of those though.

Also, I like how the cracks spread through the air. :smalltongue:

Those are vines, not cracks.


So any particular hidden meaning in what Element of Ponythread is where?

I don't know. I was never so glad for the element of bacon because it was at least easy to represent with a symbol. You guys figure it out.

[Gnomish Wanderer]

Hi hi. Just wanted to say I watched the first 14 episodes on Netflix today to see what all the fuss was about. It's a pretty good show and I enjoyed it. ^_^ Also there are a lot more ponies on this page of this thread than I've seen around and that I thought were. But yeah, good times!

[Shadow of the Sun]

>.>

Just posting so that I can keep up with the thread!

[Kd7sov]

I will note that I once heard the fanon that "Putting Your Hoof Down" takes place before S1E1, and that all the confidence she'd shown before That Episode was based on the lessons she learned therein. Makes the episode much more palatable. I still wouldn't say it's palatable at all, but it's better than taking the chronology at face value.

This could work. Except for one thing.

The Celestia letter at the end. Pre-Sparkle Fluttershy has no known reason to write a letter to the Princess at all, let alone one about self-improvement and friendship.

[Aotrs Commander]

POKONIC (or whoever it was who got that contest drawrequest off me?), you asked for the FULL PONYTHREAD ELEMENTS OF HARMONY to be drawn by me.

WELL LET NO ONE SAY I HALF-ASS CONTEST REWARDS

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/119/7/9/day_347__artponies_by_thanqol-d4xx5fm.png

"What is it, SiuiS?"
"You see, Mask, a long time ago a bunch of friends decided they, too, could wield the elements of harmony. However, the group of friends was closer to forty than six. After a while, the elements started getting very silly."

Fullview here (http://thanqol.deviantart.com/art/Day-347-Artponies-298838722)

I USED MY FULL ASS

Impressive...

[Soras Teva Gee]

I don't know. I was never so glad for the element of bacon because it was at least easy to represent with a symbol. You guys figure it out.

Okay I was just wondering because I saw the W and was all "d'aww the Element of Wiki was remembered" so I was wondering if there was any particular thought.


Hi hi. Just wanted to say I watched the first 14 episodes on Netflix today to see what all the fuss was about. It's a pretty good show and I enjoyed it. ^_^ Also there are a lot more ponies on this page of this thread than I've seen around and that I thought were. But yeah, good times!

You will find that ponies are everywhere. Also, welcome to the ponysanity:



WE ARE THE HERD.
LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER YOUR MEDIA DEVICES.
WE WILL ADD YOUR BIOLOGICAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN
YOUR SOCIAL LIFE WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US.
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8457/mlpassimilated.jpg



This could work. Except for one thing.

The Celestia letter at the end. Pre-Sparkle Fluttershy has no known reason to write a letter to the Princess at all, let alone one about self-improvement and friendship.

I find all attempts to put the episodes in anything other then airing/production order a bit fundamentally misguided. For all "they can be seen in any order" there's some pretty evident advancement. Just as always don't try to strictly analyze it. Stories are not made to fit into neat boxes like that. The episodes are all in order, screw that winter precedes fall in time under a year

[Thanqol]

Okay I was just wondering because I saw the W and was all "d'aww the Element of Wiki was remembered" so I was wondering if there was any particular thought.

Of course I remember the Element of Wiki! The YouTube logo and the multiquote button are in there too.

[Bayonet Priest]

I came out of basic about a week ago. It was.... an Interesting experience, to be honest. X)


First things, first, I suppose...


The first day we got there, the first things said to us:

"Get off the damn bus."

Already, things were horrible.

Quickly we were rushed upstairs and had to shower, shave, and brush our teeth all within about the space of two minutes. While we were unpacking, we were all forced to stop due to one pair giggling in the back. We stood around for half an hour while the MTI (Military Training Instructor) waited for him to tell a joke that made him laugh.

We met our actual MTI sometime after that night. Man, he was an interesting character, let me tell you.
He didn't swear at us. No, no no. He didn't have to. the time we spent pushing on our faces was more than enough.

We learned drill, we learned customs and courtesies, we had to take our hats off as we entered a building and put them on as we left.

We had books to study on a lot of basic military subjects, and pretty much had to study them whenever we got the chance, which wasn't very often.

The most difficult part, though, was just how detailed and neat we had to keep everything. and I mean EVERYTHING. T-shirts had to bee rolled PERFECTLY. completely flush, flat, and grounded. the top facing the rear of the wall locker. Towels flush and folded just so. NO strings on our uniforms (And trust me, they checked every inch of those things). No dust bunnies on the floors, hospital corners at 90 degrees... and you had to insure you did NOT, and I mean DID NOT, screw up on Entry Controller duty. no one was allowed to enter your dormitory unless they were authorized first.

Anyways... X)

I was so afraid the whole time of getting recycled (The term used for sending you back in weeks if you weren't up to standard). I broke down about halfway through 2nd week. I was dribbling like a little baby!

WE got to go through a program called BEAST, which was a simulated combat environment. the best of that was sleeping in Tents. during a tornado. =)

There was a tornado that touched down near our campsite while we were in the tents. those winds were howling like crazy. and you know what? I only woke up once. Because I had to pee. :smallcool:

We had to do anything we could to keep ourselves sane. When the MTI wasn't there after we finished details, we would play baseball with a paper ball and a mop handle. I taught everyone silly riddle games like Green Glass Door, and we would constantly joke about our MTI and the silly things he and our Brother flight MTI would say.

Our favorites were probably "Get outta the way!" and "NO!" it was the way he said it, more than what he said.

We also had another phrase we had borrowed from a different MTI:
"I'm a Honey Badger. I do what I want".

all in all, our flight did average. we weren't the best, but we were fairly decent at everything, Our marching, our PT, our tests.

Boy, the MTI's could be scary, especially when you did something wrong. and you could not LAUGH at all if they did or said something funny. you would be drilled for that. Hard. They had so much fun testing us on our knowledge of your studies right after dinner.

some of the funnier things they did and/or said:

I heard one sing the Mario theme song AT somebody. It was weird as anything.
And another hum circus clown music whenever a Trainee did something wrong.

I ended up failing on of my final locker inspections and nearly lost what little time I would have been able to spend on the town... but, luckily, I was able to work things out so I could. and San Antonio was AMAZING. I'm glad I was able to go and explore it. =)

I met a few people I might consider friends... but i barely see any of the ones that made it to the same tech school as me.

Speaking of which, I am currently sitting here writing in Mississippi. and it's the weekend. AWWWW Yeah!


Man that sounds crazy. Glad to here that you beast moded through it though. I can't remember what branch you said you joined, was it Air Force? I'm actually going to be trying to get into the Coast Guard now that this semester is over so it's good to here first hand accounts of what stuff like basic is like.

[otakuryoga]

Hi hi. Just wanted to say I watched the first 14 episodes on Netflix today to see what all the fuss was about. It's a pretty good show and I enjoyed it. ^_^ Also there are a lot more ponies on this page of this thread than I've seen around and that I thought were. But yeah, good times!

Welcome...
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/337/a/6/lyra_____surprise____by_sirponylancelot-d4i1evk.gif

We have a lot of love to give around these parts..
http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/017/b/8/sweetiebot_by_cyb3rwaste-d4mnwre.png

Please feel free to give in to the madness
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Allow me to give you the dime tour..
Hi there! Hope to see you around some more in the future!
ah, yes, well, I was going to save her for later but that was The Pink One. She is our resident Eldritch Horror, you'll see her pop into random posts from time to time.

I would introduce you to some of our OC's but there are a few people with so many of em i am not always sure they can keep them straight.

we have beings posting here from across the spectrum..
from our (very) friendly avatar of a love goddess Lix Lorn

several multi/non dimensional beings

various cults and secret societies
Join the Fluttermancers!
(yes Mistress Fluttershy, i was about to give him the pamphlet)

right through to our very own high-tech Space Lich
(word of advice: NEVER bring up Vampire Jubilee to him)

..oh, and do try not to stand in one place for very long as it will lead to a strike from various orbital based hug/friendship weaponry( i swear we cannot go 5 pages without a random bombardment)

Even though you may see a lot of back and forth "hostilities" between the Space Lich and others, we here in the thread will always have each others backs
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Occasionally we even manage to talk about the important plots from the show
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[Kd7sov]

I find all attempts to put the episodes in anything other then airing/production order a bit fundamentally misguided. For all "they can be seen in any order" there's some pretty evident advancement. Just as always don't try to strictly analyze it. Stories are not made to fit into neat boxes like that. The episodes are all in order, screw that winter precedes fall in time under a year

You are entitled to your opinion, of course. And yes, there are bits of continuity - "A Friend in Deed" has to come after both "Baby Cakes" and "Read It and Weep", for instance.

But... I play Fluttershy in an ongoing RP thing. And if we (currently myself, a Twilight Sparkle, a Pinkie Pie, and a G4-ed Minty) tried to do every episode in order we'd have no hair left. We do things as they seem seasonally or narratively appropriate, and move on. We just finished "Hurricane Fluttershy", followed by a hoofwave of "Sweet and Elite"; "It's About Time" will be somewhere in the near future, with "Baby Cakes" and "May the Best Pet Win!" tentatively in about a month. Other episodes we may just refer to the events or repercussions thereof in passing. And I don't see any conflict involved there.

It's like the Young Wizards books. Each book takes place in the year it's written, as far as technology and culture and to some degree history are concerned. And yet the characters may have experienced something like two years since the first book, which came out in 1983. And there is no inconsistency at all. (Well, that's not entirely true. The way wizardry works in the earlier books doesn't quite match up with the way it works now. But there's no timeline inconsistency.)

[BlasTech]

Hi hi. Just wanted to say I watched the first 14 episodes on Netflix today to see what all the fuss was about. It's a pretty good show and I enjoyed it. ^_^ Also there are a lot more ponies on this page of this thread than I've seen around and that I thought were. But yeah, good times!

*Tries to resist posting a gif*

*Fails miserably*

http://i.imgur.com/1o9uX.gif

Phew, okay, sorry about that. It's the traditional greeting :smalltongue:. Now that I have that out of my system. Hi Gnomish! ^^

If anything in here just seems off the wall crazy, don't worry, that's just normal ponythread. :smalltongue:

[Kyouhen]

I made the video of that reference.



POKONIC (or whoever it was who got that contest drawrequest off me?), you asked for the FULL PONYTHREAD ELEMENTS OF HARMONY to be drawn by me.

WELL LET NO ONE SAY I HALF-ASS CONTEST REWARDS

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/119/7/9/day_347__artponies_by_thanqol-d4xx5fm.png

"What is it, SiuiS?"
"You see, Mask, a long time ago a bunch of friends decided they, too, could wield the elements of harmony. However, the group of friends was closer to forty than six. After a while, the elements started getting very silly."

Fullview here (http://thanqol.deviantart.com/art/Day-347-Artponies-298838722)

I USED MY FULL ASS

Wow, impressive. Now can you do a picture of what happens when they all fire? :smalltongue:

[otakuryoga]

rofl...Super Wedgie
Supergirl does NOT play fair!

[Luka]

Hi hi. Just wanted to say I watched the first 14 episodes on Netflix today to see what all the fuss was about. It's a pretty good show and I enjoyed it. ^_^ Also there are a lot more ponies on this page of this thread than I've seen around and that I thought were. But yeah, good times!

Oh hi! it's good to see someone known around!....
Dude, everyone falls for it like in 5 seconds and I'm still like "meh"


Even though you may see a lot of back and forth "hostilities" between the Space Lich and others, we here in the thread will always have each others backs

Oh, good luck doing it against the (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumanityIsSuperior) humans (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAreWarriors) :smallbiggrin:

[Mewtarthio]

This could work. Except for one thing.

The Celestia letter at the end. Pre-Sparkle Fluttershy has no known reason to write a letter to the Princess at all, let alone one about self-improvement and friendship.

Fluttershy had always had a bit of a crush on the Princess. High off her newfound confidence, she decided to just write Celestia a letter about how her day was. Sure, she knew the Princess wouldn't even know who she was, and she probably wouldn't get the letter in the first place, but, dammit, she was a confident young mare now! Just once in her life, she could do something crazy. No consequences! No regrets! She stuffed the letter into the mailbox and trotted away, giggling to herself.

Then she rushed back at top speed, snatched the letter back, burned it before anypony could see it, and locked herself in her room the rest of the day.


I find all attempts to put the episodes in anything other then airing/production order a bit fundamentally misguided. For all "they can be seen in any order" there's some pretty evident advancement. Just as always don't try to strictly analyze it. Stories are not made to fit into neat boxes like that. The episodes are all in order, screw that winter precedes fall in time under a year

That's a perfectly reasonable stance. As is the stance that no romantic relationships are implied in the show. As is the stance that Chrysalis was just trying to take over the WORLD and not really attempting to destabilize Equestria's government while the real changeling army infiltrated nearby cities posing as refugees from the attack.

To be quite honest, I think that a reasonable fandom is a boring fandom. Let's turn the Wild Mass Guessing dial up to 11 and party 'til Season 3 starts!

[Silverraptor]

Unfortunately, research into weaponizing love has stalled due to the persistent confusion regarding generation methods.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/116/8/d/the_magic_of_love_by_csimadmax-d4xo0n7.png

Darn. Well, I hope they sort it out soon though


I will note that I once heard the fanon that "Putting Your Hoof Down" takes place before S1E1, and that all the confidence she'd shown before That Episode was based on the lessons she learned therein. Makes the episode much more palatable. I still wouldn't say it's palatable at all, but it's better than taking the chronology at face value.

Only problem with that episode is that Fluttershy is writing a letter to Celestia at the end, which only would've happened after Leason Zero.


I did that weeks ago; might have to revise it slightly (i.e. add the last few episodes to the list), but otherwise, I think I might've got it. :smallsmile:

Can you post your lists so that we may review it?:smallsmile:

[Pokonic]

I made the video of that reference.



POKONIC (or whoever it was who got that contest drawrequest off me?), you asked for the FULL PONYTHREAD ELEMENTS OF HARMONY to be drawn by me.

WELL LET NO ONE SAY I HALF-ASS CONTEST REWARDS

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/119/7/9/day_347__artponies_by_thanqol-d4xx5fm.png

"What is it, SiuiS?"
"You see, Mask, a long time ago a bunch of friends decided they, too, could wield the elements of harmony. However, the group of friends was closer to forty than six. After a while, the elements started getting very silly."

Fullview here (http://thanqol.deviantart.com/art/Day-347-Artponies-298838722)

I USED MY FULL ASS

Heh, when you said "abstract", I never expected it to look this.....good!

[Beacon of Chaos]

Let's kick this thread off with

Thanqol's Fabulous (and totally stolen) CONTEST!

Pick some random object in your house. That object is now a pony's cutie mark. Tell me a story about how that pony got that cutie mark.

There will be fabulous prizes!

(And I'm suddenly reminded of my last promised prize distributions, I'll get on those tomorrow hopefully)
I'll give this a go soon. Got a couple of ideas in mind.

"Fabulous prizes" is always a good way to get my attention.


What time is it Ponythread? It's time for League of Ponies!


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Which reminds me, I couldn't find any of the usernames that were posted when I typed them into the friend-finder in LoL. What am I doing wrong, and is this Ponythread group thing actually happening?


Hi hi. Just wanted to say I watched the first 14 episodes on Netflix today to see what all the fuss was about. It's a pretty good show and I enjoyed it. ^_^ Also there are a lot more ponies on this page of this thread than I've seen around and that I thought were. But yeah, good times!
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/eede1d8f1abe2cf860c902818c54beda/112059%20-%20animated%20pinkie_pie.gif

This is why you don't go using mind-affecting magic indiscriminately, Cadence:
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/a60114c582bcc1cd2425461a1bf635e9/171552%20-%20artist%3Athe-oddcouple%20celestia%20comic%20incest%20Lucky%20Si bsy%20Wild_Fire.jpg

EDIT: Re: pony wedding rings, as I believe that came up a while back
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[maximus25]

I saw something that got me to thinking the other day. How different would season 2 have been if bronies hadn't been a thing? I imagine quite different.

[Alabenson]

..oh, and do try not to stand in one place for very long as it will lead to a strike from various orbital based hug/friendship weaponry( i swear we cannot go 5 pages without a random bombardment)

This calls for a demonstration. FIRE AT WILL! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
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http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/261/f/3/orbital_friendship_cannon_by_aeroytechyon_x-d4a7to1.png
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/352/b/9/orbital_friendship_cannon___hate_detected_by_delta raen-d4jfl6l.jpg
http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/FRIENDSHIP+CANNON+FIRE+.+Hey+guys+just+a+cool+GIF+ I_5392cf_3145715.gif

I love doing that! And now, to welcome our newest poster, UNLEASH THE HUGS!
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmtyhwxGBz1qkm3xxo1_500.jpg
http://dash.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/133530441414.jpg
http://fim.413chan.net/oatmeal/src/132147503405-hugs.jpg
http://img.ponibooru.org/images/49/49789bb88f52cf6d6441a6eddfe378f4
And now for the big finish
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/212/7/b/hugs_vector_mane_6_by_kitsuneymg-d41nylf.png

[Rebelhero]

Hey guys, have we done a favorite 3 songs from season 2 poll yet? or how about list of favorites from both seasons?

ALSO. after watching the last 2 episodes, in addition to my glee, there was a profound sadness. and after watching the last few scenes again, i figured it out. it felt very similar to a SERIES finale. I suddenly felt as if there would be no ponies EVER again. but there was also that happy feeling of "this was a great way to end it"

[Pokonic]

This calls for a demonstration. FIRE AT WILL! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/140/531/5880f256df28799b1cb838d25fbf2830-d3ivn99.png?1318992465
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/261/f/3/orbital_friendship_cannon_by_aeroytechyon_x-d4a7to1.png
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/352/b/9/orbital_friendship_cannon___hate_detected_by_delta raen-d4jfl6l.jpg
http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/FRIENDSHIP+CANNON+FIRE+.+Hey+guys+just+a+cool+GIF+ I_5392cf_3145715.gif

I love doing that! And now, to welcome our newest poster, UNLEASH THE HUGS!
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmtyhwxGBz1qkm3xxo1_500.jpg
http://dash.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/133530441414.jpg
http://fim.413chan.net/oatmeal/src/132147503405-hugs.jpg
http://img.ponibooru.org/images/49/49789bb88f52cf6d6441a6eddfe378f4
And now for the big finish
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/212/7/b/hugs_vector_mane_6_by_kitsuneymg-d41nylf.png

Oh, come on! Thats it, your going in the books. As in, the book we give to the press that contain those who have preformed crimes against ponykind and there known locations. Oh, and a bounty larger than what you see in a year. You would have been fine if you just accepted our suggestions, but now you can run arund like a headless cockatrace for the rest of your life.

[Alabenson]

Hey guys, have we done a favorite 3 songs from season 2 poll yet? or how about list of favorites from both seasons?

ALSO. after watching the last 2 episodes, in addition to my glee, there was a profound sadness. and after watching the last few scenes again, i figured it out. it felt very similar to a SERIES finale. I suddenly felt as if there would be no ponies EVER again. but there was also that happy feeling of "this was a great way to end it"

I'd have to say my top 3 songs of S2 would be
Smile Smile Smile (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNrXMOSkBas)
This Day Aria (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzsxfO7dBlA)
and
Becoming Popular (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwTqjDhxYq0)

As for the Season 2 finale having a series finale feel, I believe the reason was that the finale was planned prior to the annoucement of Season 3, and Studio B wanted to make sure that if it was the end, that it would be an endind worthy of the series.

[darthbobcat]

My favorite season 2 song was Pinkie's Smile Smile Smile. In fact, for me, it blows the competition out of the water so thoroughly that I'm having a hard time thinking of 2nd and 3rd favorite.

I suppose my other two favorites are... Cider Squeezy and Becoming Popular.

[Deadly]

Though on Chrysalis's power of love tap being more powerful then Celestia:


It wasn't more powerful then Celestia, it was more powerful then Celestia's opening attack. Which Celestia though would be more then enough to finish Chrysalis, but wasn't her full power. Thus, she was surprised, didn't react fast enough when the attack didn't work, and took a solid direct hit, which took her out of the fighting, much to everypony and Chrysalis's surprise. She didn't lose because her love wasn't strong enough, she lost cause she didn't use all of her power at her disposal.


If they got a rematch, My Money's on Celestia.

This makes sense to me and I think explains everything nicely.


Turn it around why would you think for a moment Celestia can? Its never stated anywhere and Love is not among the EoH which is the only "external" magical source she is known for her. So why does Celestia get a power boost from the Power of Love?

When you assume a requirement into existence then the problem isn't in the show if it isn't upheld.



To get deeply philosophical for a moment that's getting it backwards. Love is a deep connection between two people. While I've know doubt Celestia intellectually cares for her subjects she can only even know a fraction of them, much less have any kind of personal bond that can be called love. Because she can't even know them. To push beyond that is well frankly just beyond her.

It requires her to not merely be, but to be omnipresent. To be not even merely goddess... but God. To borrow the Dresden File's distinction.

That's not a requirement she can meet by concept. I've no doubt Celestia loves Luna as a sister and Twilight as mentor/mother figure, but that covers characters we know who have any kind of personal connection with her. We can infer though that any Shining Armor to her Cadence either didn't work out or is long over. Which is the price being an ageless sorceress queen incurs, its lonely at the top, etc...

(To supplement this are you familiar with the idea of the Four Loves?)


I am not suggesting that Celestia has a deep and personal love for each and every one of her subjects individually. I am suggesting that she has a deep and profound love for all of her subjects as one. She may love a few specific ponies too, like Luna and Twilight, but that's besides the point and not what I'm thinking of here. Though no doubt her love for those two would also be strong and possibly something she could tap into if ever they were seriously threatened (with actual harm or something).

I'm willing to concede that she may need the Elements to harness the full potential of her Love (my head canon puts Love as a kind of Friendship and thus within the domain of the Elements), but we have seen for example in Twilights's cutie mark story that the magic of friendship can be used without the Elements present and even with all its wearers unaware of each other. Sure Twilight didn't have any control over it, but it's possible that this was simply a result of circumstances or Twilight being so young.

As I see it, the magic of friendship and love has a sort of life of its own and is likely to take over or surge in certain situations, probably dramatic situations in particular, but it can be intentionally focused to a degree but only to its full extent with the help of the Elements.

[Maxtronaut]

Howdy, thread! Chapter 7 is out, so go take a look if you want. :)

Spoiler: Changelings are invloved. (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/18623/Clockwork)

[Sean Mirrsen]

I am... suddenly realizing we're looking into the matter from the wrong end, as it were. It's not fierce love for someone that gives you power (as displayed, at least), it's love from someone. I.e. Chrysalis has no love to give whatsoever, yet utilizes it to the fullest. Celestia, even if she loves her subjects, would require them all to actually love her in return, which I don't really see happening. At most, she has her sister's love, plus whoever is in her "closest circle". From what we've seen of ponies' reactions to her, she's revered as an old, wise, and powerful Princess, in the "matriarch ruler of all the land" sense. Very few would see her as any more than a reasonable authority figure.

Or, I can bring one of my favorite modern-fantasy universe mechanics into this, and liken the Power of Love to, you're going to laugh, the Twilight (or perhaps the Gloom, to avoid the likeness), from the Night Watch series by Sergei Luk'yanenko. All people exist in a balance, between the amount of magical energy they draw from the Gloom, and release into it. Completely normal people release more energy than they draw, but the most powerful mages draw more than they release, acting as "sinkholes" for the power. If the Power of Love works in a similar way in Equestria, it may be that Chrysalis could beat Celestia because for all the Love she draws, she releases none converting it all into raw power, whereas Celestia is in balance, but has more normal power through drawing it raw, from her Sun.

[MCerberus]

You know, I'd like to make one request to anyone making pony arts:

You're using vectors.
They're there so you can appropriately size them.
You know, so you can have them fit places.


You don't need 2000x4500 pixel things. I know you're doing it on purpose.

[Sean Mirrsen]

You know, I'd like to make one request to anyone making pony arts:

You're using vectors.
They're there so you can appropriately size them.
You know, so you can have them fit places.


You don't need 2000x4500 pixel things. I know you're doing it on purpose.I don't know any web-compatible format (save Flash) that can actually display vectors though. So for anyone who wants their picture custom-sized, having a ridiculous-resolution base image is good. Also for prints, those that are bitmap-based at least.

[Soras Teva Gee]

I am not suggesting that Celestia has a deep and personal love for each and every one of her subjects individually. I am suggesting that she has a deep and profound love for all of her subjects as one.

Put simply, that isn't love. You can't have any sort of serious emotional connection like that of any capacity as love. She might be compassionate, but she is not in love with her subjects.


I'm willing to concede that she may need the Elements to harness the full potential of her Love (my head canon puts Love as a kind of Friendship and thus within the domain of the Elements),

You are basing your issue around divergence from head canon, do I have to make this point?


but we have seen for example in Twilights's cutie mark story that the magic of friendship can be used without the Elements present and even with all its wearers unaware of each other.

Or the explanation that this is simply Twilight's own talent for magic manifesting. Your connection here is purely speculative, when you build bridges of linked speculation its more surprising when they don't fall apart.


As I see it, the magic of friendship and love has a sort of life of its own and is likely to take over or surge in certain situations, probably dramatic situations in particular, but it can be intentionally focused to a degree but only to its full extent with the help of the Elements.

You can believe as you like... that is entirely different then raising some sort of problem in canon from it.

I have headcanon too but treat it ruthlessly. Every time canon expands I slit my headcanon's throat and kick out the back of the van while cruising down the highway.

As yet we cannot make Cadence's UberLoveCharge effect as more then her own particular unicorn magic. Remember Shining already built a forcefield of the size used to throw the Changelings out on his own. If you want to link them knock yourself out... but you can't base Fridge Logic off it.

To which I return to my initial objection: Why does Celestia have to be running off the Power of Love in the first place?

[MCerberus]

I don't know any web-compatible format (save Flash) that can actually display vectors though. So for anyone who wants their picture custom-sized, having a ridiculous-resolution base image is good. Also for prints, those that are bitmap-based at least.

I'm more speaking of 'I just made a vector of filly Pinkie. Time to get out the scale tool and inflate the file size'. Stuff to where only the eye fits on my 1920 width display.

[Eakin]

I saw something that got me to thinking the other day. How different would season 2 have been if bronies hadn't been a thing? I imagine quite different.

I honestly don't think it would have been THAT different. I doubt we'd have gotten Luna Eclipsed, and some of the more over-the-top episodes like Lesson Zero might have been toned down a bit. Oh, and there wouldn't have been any Derpy sightings or scene in the Last Round Up. Those are the only things I can think of that were really brony targeted off the top of my head. Some of the other references we liked, like the I Love Lucy homage and the imagine spots in MMMMystery were the kinds of thing they were throwing in before they even knew bronies would be a thing.


Hey guys, have we done a favorite 3 songs from season 2 poll yet? or how about list of favorites from both seasons?


Smile and This Day Aria are my number 1 and 2, tough to pick a number 3 from the rest. Probably the Find a Pet song.

[Luka]

So....watched a bit, and I'm still prefering Call of Duty over the show.... and said it somewhere else and people are all like "BLASPHEMY!"....
....the frak? :smallconfused:

[Merellis]

So....watched a bit, and I'm still prefering Call of Duty over the show.... and said it somewhere else and people are all like "BLASPHEMY!"....
....the frak? :smallconfused:

Some people, of any fanbase, are zealous sometimes.

Or they were joking, like when I yell it at people who say they didn't watch TMNT as kids.

Maybe.

[Alabenson]

So....watched a bit, and I'm still prefering Call of Duty over the show.... and said it somewhere else and people are all like "BLASPHEMY!"....
....the frak? :smallconfused:

Fair warning, Bronies have already taken over a good bit of the Internet, and some of us still have a little trouble with the whole tolerance portion of love and tolerance.

We're generally pretty respectful of non-bronies, though, so the worst you can expect here is the occasional image like this;
http://www.framwinkle.com/MyArt/myart/JoinTheHerd.jpg

or this
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/335/7/2/__join_the_herd___poster_by_aleximusprime-d4hvtz7.png

[Beacon of Chaos]

So....watched a bit, and I'm still prefering Call of Duty over the show.... and said it somewhere else and people are all like "BLASPHEMY!"....
....the frak? :smallconfused:

HERESY!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7539801/RFYFx.gif
(any excuse to post that gif)
Seriously though, you gave the show a look and found it wasn't for you. That's all we can ask really.


So, anyway, apparantly the red teenaged dragon had a name. Did we know this already?
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/62b0e355229f80e19495f33f6ccea368/152318%20-%20Crackle%20garble%20word_of_nayuki.JPG

[Eakin]

So....watched a bit, and I'm still prefering Call of Duty over the show.... and said it somewhere else and people are all like "BLASPHEMY!"....
....the frak? :smallconfused:

Well, at least you tried it. If you gave it a fair shot with an open mind nobody should give you flack for not liking it. Some people are just overzealous, it's a rather annoying element of a certain segment of the brony population. It's like the annoying frat boys that, if you tell them you don't care for CoD will answer something like LOL U R GAY COD IS TEH GREATEST GAME EVER!

Every fanbase has them, although the hypocracy among bronies that claim to be about love and tolerance and then blast people who disagree with them particularly irks me.



So, anyway, apparantly the red teenaged dragon had a name. Did we know this already?
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/62b0e355229f80e19495f33f6ccea368/152318%20-%20Crackle%20garble%20word_of_nayuki.JPG

We did know that. Nayuki's great though, she's the one who told us that Chrysalis wasn't just called "Changeling Queen" too

[Anarion]

Hmm for season 2 songs.

Well, I have Smile! completely memorized and I can do the whole thing without music. So there's that.

I also like B.B.B.F.F., primarily because I self-identify with it, more than the actual music, though I do think its fun and catchy.

Becoming popular third, it's got a great tune.

[Soras Teva Gee]

So....watched a bit, and I'm still prefering Call of Duty over the show.... and said it somewhere else and people are all like "BLASPHEMY!"....
....the frak? :smallconfused:

I find it odd that between a video game and a show you consider one "preferable" as in... apples and oranges why do they have to oppose?

Also as others have said, not all bronies are as nice as they should be. I still find it better the net-standard in this regard.

[Anarion]

So....watched a bit, and I'm still prefering Call of Duty over the show.... and said it somewhere else and people are all like "BLASPHEMY!"....
....the frak? :smallconfused:


I find it odd that between a video game and a show you consider one "preferable" as in... apples and oranges why do they have to oppose?

Also as others have said, not all bronies are as nice as they should be. I still find it better the net-standard in this regard.

Add me to the confused list. CoD and My Little Pony aren't really comparable. Heck, I'm not sure that even a show like 24 would be comparable with CoD, interactive vs. not interactive mediums are pretty different.

Of course, you could just be saying that you'd rather spend your free time playing CoD multiplayer instead of watching more My Little Pony, in which case that's fine.

[Siosilvar]

So....watched a bit, and I'm still prefering Call of Duty over the show.... and said it somewhere else and people are all like "BLASPHEMY!"....
....the frak? :smallconfused:

It's because you picked a poor game to play instead of watching awesomeness incarnate. :smalltongue: (I jest. Play what you want, don't let my opinion of the gameplay get in your way. But really, is another three or four run-throughs of Baldur's Gate II and a couple games of Heroes III too much to ask for? I'm almost considering never upgrading my computer again so that I can still play those games.)

[Emperordaniel]

Can you post your lists so that we may review it?:smallsmile:

Okay... list coming very soon! *goes off to find list of episode names*

[BlasTech]

Just thought I'd pop this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mljqk9Y9yg&feature=g-all-c)here.

Remember ponyphonic's great song a while back "The Moon Rises"? Well, someone has gone and set a sketchy animatic to it. It's early stages, but you can get the feel for what's going on. Think it does a good job given how early stage WIP it is.

[Merellis]

So I watched Putting Your Hoof Down again, first time had me amused, second time had me speculative as to why they had her become this mean to everypony, and third time had me right back to speculative and amused.

I agree that some of the ponies in this episode were a little over the top with how they treated Fluttershy, but you can see why it needed to be shown, because for the most part, in most of the episodes, she was a major shy pushover who was sometimes too kind.

You can also see that she is getting more and more frustrated throughout the day, and can only feel worse about herself rather then that they're being unfair.

She sees the pamphlet and the show as a way to become assertive and not be a doormat anymore, she goes, does things the way that Iron Will shows, and finds that she enjoys it. And lets be honest, a lot of us have been there where that first showing of being "assertive" was thrilling and powerful. She then does what a lot of us did at that first "victory", she takes the inch she gained and runs it for a mile. While running with it all those frustrations and all those "failures" in her eyes start to make her see shades of red, and she starts losing it at the drop of the hat just to show how she's changed.

It's only after she sees how angry she looks that she even realizes just how wrong things were going. Which is something else that hits home, ever look in the mirror and see just how angry you look? Didn't it just freak you out to see it on your face?

After thinking about the episode and watching it for the third time, I think my only two gripes are the over the top abusive and annoying ponies, and the letter at the end, it just didn't seem to do justice to what Fluttershy learned.

Sorry if my thoughts seem muddled.

[Pokonic]

For fellow americans waching the weather, I am in Kentucky, Fern Creek to be exact.:smalleek:

Might not hear from me for the rest of the night.

[Thanqol]

Wow, impressive. Now can you do a picture of what happens when they all fire? :smalltongue:

Win another contest and find out.


Heh, when you said "abstract", I never expected it to look this.....good!

When I said "Drawing" I never expected it to look this good.

Glad you like it! =D

[Luka]

It's because you picked a poor game to play instead of watching awesomeness incarnate. :smalltongue: (I jest. Play what you want, don't let my opinion of the gameplay get in your way. But really, is another three or four run-throughs of Baldur's Gate II and a couple games of Heroes III too much to ask for? I'm almost considering never upgrading my computer again so that I can still play those games.)

:smallconfused:????
I watched awesomeness incarnate! and actually played it! I passed both Half Life and Half Life 2!
(I don't really know Baldur's Gate, but I prefer heroes 5 and 4 over 3 :smallbiggrin:)

I think I would just keep trying and find something that I may like in it, or just my hate of "childish themed stuff" will make me a hater when that is spammed on the internet and rage again just like in April 1st :smalltongue:

TBH, watched just a small bit and was in a bad mood, so I think it doesn't really count. :smallbiggrin:

[Siosilvar]

(I don't really know Baldur's Gate, but I prefer heroes 5 and 4 over 3 :smallbiggrin:)see again heresy.gif

In any case, "childish themed stuff" does tend to be pretty poor quality. I think most of the fandom around MLP comes from the fact that it's very well-done and isn't dumbed down too much, unlike Dora or most other kid's shows. Out of curiosity, are there any Pixar movies you like (I specify Pixar because DreamWorks also does less "kidsy" stuff than, say, Shrek)? The appeal is much the same, I find - cutesy stuff for the kids, decent story and references for the adults (and both for teenagers and the child-at-hearts :smallwink:).

[Soras Teva Gee]

It's because you picked a poor game to play instead of watching awesomeness incarnate. :smalltongue: (I jest. Play what you want, don't let my opinion of the gameplay get in your way. But really, is another three or four run-throughs of Baldur's Gate II and a couple games of Heroes III too much to ask for? I'm almost considering never upgrading my computer again so that I can still play those games.)

Fear not BG is getting an updated re-release sometime soon!

(Though yeah I feel your pain, I'm playing BGII and its a bit rough to keep the game stable on my system)

[BlasTech]

Where was Luna in the finale? Here:

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/119/5/e/the_mastermind_chrysalis_by_niban_destikim-d4xwydg.jpg

[Siosilvar]

Fear not BG is getting an updated re-release sometime soon!

(Though yeah I feel your pain, I'm playing BGII and its a bit rough to keep the game stable on my system)

I got a new Win7 laptop the other day, and I'm dreading trying to install and make it play properly. Wish the parents would let me keep the desktop around. Oh well, hopefully the Enhanced Edition will work natively.

Right, ponies. Minsc stands ready! Butts Plots will be liberally kicked in good measure! (http://adcoon.deviantart.com/art/Pony-Minsc-and-Flutterwitch-260219414)

[Pokonic]

I got a new Win7 laptop the other day, and I'm dreading trying to install and make it play properly. Wish the parents would let me keep the desktop around. Oh well, hopefully the Enhanced Edition will work natively.

Right, ponies. Minsc stands ready! Butts Plots will be liberally kicked in good measure! (http://adcoon.deviantart.com/art/Pony-Minsc-and-Flutterwitch-260219414)

"While fighting a Ursa"

Go for the eyes, Boo! Go for the eyes!

[Anarion]

"While fighting a Ursa"

Go for the eyes, Boo! Go for the eyes!

Squeaky wheel gets the buck!

Oh Minsc, you will live forever in our hearts. Now as a pony.

[Soras Teva Gee]

I got a new Win7 laptop the other day, and I'm dreading trying to install and make it play properly. Wish the parents would let me keep the desktop around. Oh well, hopefully the Enhanced Edition will work natively.

Right, ponies. Minsc stands ready! Butts Plots will be liberally kicked in good measure! (http://adcoon.deviantart.com/art/Pony-Minsc-and-Flutterwitch-260219414)

I *almost* made a pony portrait for my current run.

Anyways some quick advice: Don't use the Program Files directory.UAC makes the default directory pain in the butt, especially with mods. I also have some graphics issue and have to switch modes to a lower grade mode to keep it stable, but that will depend on your card.

Changing topics I think I have new favorite Twilight pic, but its really not meant for show:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/118/d/7/twi_nu_gundam_by_rorycon-d4xvjhb.png

[Siosilvar]

I *almost* made a pony portrait for my current run.

Anyways some quick advice: Don't use the Program Files directory.UAC makes the default directory pain in the butt, especially with mods. I also have some graphics issue and have to switch modes to a lower grade mode to keep it stable, but that will depend on your card.

I'm using a picture of the Doctor and a Doctor soundset (mostly David Tennant, a few from Eccleston and one or two from Smith). Cleric dualling to Mage at 14, just because.

UAC does weird things with Program Files? That's interesting. Not applicable (I throw basically everything on the D partition as force of habit), but interesting nevertheless.

[Luka]

Out of curiosity, are there any Pixar movies you like (I specify Pixar because DreamWorks also does less "kidsy" stuff than, say, Shrek)? The appeal is much the same, I find - cutesy stuff for the kids, decent story and references for the adults (and both for teenagers and the child-at-hearts :smallwink:).

Only 2 I can think of are Wall-E and The incredibles, the others are mostly ok to me.
But yeah, I mostly prefer Dreamworks' stuff :smallbiggrin:

[Sean Mirrsen]

Changing topics I think I have new favorite Twilight pic, but its really not meant for show:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/118/d/7/twi_nu_gundam_by_rorycon-d4xvjhb.pngThat doesn't look like either the Providence or the Strike Freedom... what model is that?

[Soras Teva Gee]

That doesn't look like either the Providence or the Strike Freedom... what model is that?

You have no idea how terribly sad that makes me feel. Think older and better.

[CoffeeIncluded]

Thinking about it, this show has actually taught me some important lessons about myself. A couple weeks ago in my rock climbing class we were rappelling out the window of the football stadium, about 50 feet up. Even though there were so many redundant ropes that it was completely save and I wanted to look cool doing it, I still spent several minutes clutching the ledge right under the window and wall in terror, while "Fluttershy! Fluttershy! Fluttershy can hardly fly!" kept looping in my head, until I took a deep breath and rappelled to the ground.

But, much more importantly. My brother is a complete jerk. He doesn't know anything about personal space, he loves antagonizing me, and he flies into a rage at the drop of a hat. Dealing with him is like walking on eggshells.

But, of all things, when I watched Sisterhooves Special, I spent several minutes looking at my laptop screen before finally realizing that as awful as my brother is, I could have been, could be, a better big sister to him.

[Capt. Ido Nos]

Hey Aorts, I think I might have found your favorite thing? Is this yours?
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/119/2/0/tality__unicorna_vas_harmony_by_smashinator-d4xzkg9.png

In the meanwhile, I'm going to sit here and keep listening to my new favorite song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoTYZzFhfHc)

[Silverraptor]

Thinking about it, this show has actually taught me some important lessons about myself. A couple weeks ago in my rock climbing class we were rappelling out the window of the football stadium, about 50 feet up. Even though there were so many redundant ropes that it was completely save and I wanted to look cool doing it, I still spent several minutes clutching the ledge right under the window and wall in terror, while "Fluttershy! Fluttershy! Fluttershy can hardly fly!" kept looping in my head, until I took a deep breath and rappelled to the ground.

But, much more importantly. My brother is a complete jerk. He doesn't know anything about personal space, he loves antagonizing me, and he flies into a rage at the drop of a hat. Dealing with him is like walking on eggshells.

But, of all things, when I watched Sisterhooves Special, I spent several minutes looking at my laptop screen before finally realizing that as awful as my brother is, I could have been, could be, a better big sister to him.

That is... one of the most profound things I've ever heard.

That actually makes me re-examine myself as an older brother better...

[CrnivorousMeece]

okay so I've been lead to believe that people are drawing scenes from the pony threads so i'd like to make a request could someone draw some part of this post (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13126997&postcount=1139). Or you could just draw my avatar with sunglasses laying in a beach chair under an umbrella that looks like his cutiemark on with Luna and Celestia laying in their beach chairs under their umbrellas that have their cutiemarks on the top.

[Maxtronaut]

Hey Aorts, I think I might have found your favorite thing? Is this yours?
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/119/2/0/tality__unicorna_vas_harmony_by_smashinator-d4xzkg9.png

In the meanwhile, I'm going to sit here and keep listening to my new favorite song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoTYZzFhfHc)

Rarity is best Tali. :D

[Jothki]

So I watched Putting Your Hoof Down again, first time had me amused, second time had me speculative as to why they had her become this mean to everypony, and third time had me right back to speculative and amused.

I agree that some of the ponies in this episode were a little over the top with how they treated Fluttershy, but you can see why it needed to be shown, because for the most part, in most of the episodes, she was a major shy pushover who was sometimes too kind.

You can also see that she is getting more and more frustrated throughout the day, and can only feel worse about herself rather then that they're being unfair.

She sees the pamphlet and the show as a way to become assertive and not be a doormat anymore, she goes, does things the way that Iron Will shows, and finds that she enjoys it. And lets be honest, a lot of us have been there where that first showing of being "assertive" was thrilling and powerful. She then does what a lot of us did at that first "victory", she takes the inch she gained and runs it for a mile. While running with it all those frustrations and all those "failures" in her eyes start to make her see shades of red, and she starts losing it at the drop of the hat just to show how she's changed.

It's only after she sees how angry she looks that she even realizes just how wrong things were going. Which is something else that hits home, ever look in the mirror and see just how angry you look? Didn't it just freak you out to see it on your face?

After thinking about the episode and watching it for the third time, I think my only two gripes are the over the top abusive and annoying ponies, and the letter at the end, it just didn't seem to do justice to what Fluttershy learned.

Sorry if my thoughts seem muddled.

She's basically acting exactly like the ponies that bullied her at school. An empowering feeling, at first...

[Tvtyrant]

Has anyone else noticed that Twilight's family appears to be quite influential? They are extremely wealthy, their son became the captain of the guard/married a princess, they not only got their daughter into the examination for magical school but she became the son-queens favorite student.

[Deadly]

Put simply, that isn't love. You can't have any sort of serious emotional connection like that of any capacity as love. She might be compassionate, but she is not in love with her subjects.

I absolutely must disagree with that. Celestia absolutely can have a "serious emotional connection" to something other than one pony, to the point that she may gladly devote her entire life and all her time and attention to her subjects, to the point that she may even willingly sacrifice herself for her subjects (because we love tired old clichés).

Granted, whether she does have such a sense of love for her subjects is mere speculation, which brings me to your other points...



You are basing your issue around divergence from head canon, do I have to make this point?


Or the explanation that this is simply Twilight's own talent for magic manifesting. Your connection here is purely speculative, when you build bridges of linked speculation its more surprising when they don't fall apart.



You can believe as you like... that is entirely different then raising some sort of problem in canon from it.

I have headcanon too but treat it ruthlessly. Every time canon expands I slit my headcanon's throat and kick out the back of the van while cruising down the highway.

As yet we cannot make Cadence's UberLoveCharge effect as more then her own particular unicorn magic. Remember Shining already built a forcefield of the size used to throw the Changelings out on his own. If you want to link them knock yourself out... but you can't base Fridge Logic off it.

To which I return to my initial objection: Why does Celestia have to be running off the Power of Love in the first place?

It's ALL speculation. I don't know what you think we're discussing, but I'm discussing speculative ideas based loosely on the show and nothing more. All I want to do is present this idea I have and show that it is at least not impossible given what we know. And since we know very little for a fact we can come up with a lot of theories like this that are not ruled out by canon yet.

It's like science. You come up with an hypothesis, and there may be other hypotheses to explain the same thing, and as long as your hypothesis is not ruled out by current data it is (ideally) as good as any other such hypothesis. Then you go on and collect more data, and if it fits your hypothesis that's great, if it doesn't then you either adapt your hypothesis or throw it out.

Here, I have my hypothesis about Celestia and the power of Love. It's based on a lot of assumptions, but I am arguing that it is not outright impossible given our current state of knowledge about the world. In the future it's possible that more data will become available, or someone will notice a new detail from the old episodes that I'd missed, and I'll either have to adapt my hypothesis to that or if all else fails throw it out. And sure, I'll throw it out if it comes to that, but I'll try to defend or adapt it first.


In short, Celestia doesn't HAVE to be able to tap into the power of Love, I never said that, but I like the idea and I think it can work and that it'd be interesting that way. Maybe other ideas can work too, maybe the show will one day address it in their own way, but until then we can decide whatever we like.

[SiuiS]

...

Sure I do! Her alignment is Sexy Evil!

Fine, fine.
Crikey.

We are either going to have to stop developing interest in the same characters or move to the same continent/area.


Two soldiers, one old, one young, are on watch on the eve of a battle. The young soldier cooly strolls around, eyeing the night for activity while the old soldier quickly paces his route, shaking and clearly terrified. After a few hours of this, the young soldier casually says to the old soldier "I thought people called you courageous. Why are you shaking so much?" To which the old soldier replies "If you understood the situation like I do, you wouldn't be here." Courage is an obvious example, but you can apply that story to just about any "virtue." I would also say that most people consider all virtues to be sacrifices in some way; not just sacrifices for other people or institutions, but for ones own future and well being, the present pleasure must by stopped at times. The actions of virtue can be preformed in ignorance (not fleeing from the battle, in that story), but they aren't as virtuous as a gnostic action would be because the ignorant preformer is sacrificing less (in their mind) by preforming them.

But virtue needn't be defined by sacrifice.

If kindness is a virtue, and kindness is freely given with no cost to the giver, does it cease being virtuous?


what if....

The new discord voice work is not for a Discord "returning" episode, but rather a flashback episode about The origin of The Alicorn Sisters (Divine Duo) and their fight against Discord to free Equestria?

A pony can dream~



Interesting. I think Discord trumps the other two, but he also purposely withholds his power and seems to enjoy playing games and giving the good guys a chance to win even when he doesn't have to.

Refutable.
Discord is a spirit of disharmony. It is the nature of such a creature to play games where it can lose. Discord doesn't have power at all outside such games. He is a narrative structure manifest. He's not all powerful, he's just cunning.


I think I'll just stand in this Pi = 3 zone, until this blows over. Discord best Villain in Ponyvile, for this thread, Aotrs . But I think I'm better in force. Space forces, armys and rockets can't do much when space and time burn around you.

Have you ever seen space and time, get twisted and bent so much that the friction of them rubbing lights it a flame. it's petty.


Yep. I am,after all, a wizard. One of the first things a successful wizard learns is how to perceive in ways that mortal minds should never suffer.

One of the second things a successful wizard learns is how to cope with being unable to undo such a terrible mistake.

Surviving beyond "reality" is somewhere around 75th on list of successful wizard skills.


So, ponythread. Anyone up for a thought experiment? Literally, it's an experiment that requires thought, and an experiment with thoughts.

As you know, we had a pause in the pony schedule the Saturday preceding the finale, so that we could have the finale aired together. This, naturally, removed a lot of the tension and anxiety that would appear. My question, and request, is then thus.

Can you, momentarily, try to forget the second half of the finale? Forget it has aired, pretend you have not seen it yet. The last scene you have seen of the show as of now is when a suddenly actually-evil Cadance engulfs Twilight in green fire and diffuses her into the floor.

Can you come up with what your thoughts would be right now, if the show had left you with that cliffhanger for a week? What theories would spring up, what guesses as to the actual events that would follow would you now have? Try to imagine.

I thought she was going to be some fey witch who banished twilight to the dark realm from which the clones spawned, some beyond-the-mirror terrorland.


Responses in bold, my good pony.

Darn, now I have to go back and address these manually. Well played...

Want to apologize though. I've had a tough two months, like, drop everything, set it all ablaze and star a new life on a different continent. I've been short with folks and tweren't proper. I'm sorry.


Watched 25-26 again and found one thing I didn't liked in hindsight:

Why exactly Mane 6 were asked to do anything? I liked Best Night Ever in that it shown the Mane 6 aren't Mary Sues and are way out of their league with veteran professionals - cooks, designers, musicians, etc. Why then they were asked to do anything for very important wedding? Trollestia wanted to crash third party in Canterlot in a row?

I mean, AJ was established as good, but very down to earth cook, hating fancy foods. Why not ask the Cakes to make cake? Or Donut Joe? Gustave, even? They just won very big awards, AJ didn't even qualified for that competition. Why ask quiet, easily scared birds to provide music? They would be barely audible, plus, fans would love them some Octavia and Co. Fluttershy apparently can't even pick good birds for the occasion. Same with Pinkie - "Cadence" had a point it would be great birthday party for a foal, but wouldn't exactly fit a wedding.

The only way I can make sense out of this, is that Shining Armor asked for them specifically, but seeing Twilight didn't bothered to tell the girls about her brother, her saying anything to Armor when she stated she stopped seeing him is rather improbable. So, was it Trollestia? I don't know, it feels very... fanfic-ey in hindsight.

Because the bride and groom both wanted them there.

When have weddings ever made sense?


@Anarion you didn't find my post (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13128261&postcount=1182) anwering how I found this place or you just stoped talking to me cuz of me? :smallfrown:

Given ponythread speed it's fair to say that sometimes, folks don't always respond in the rush. It's not personal though.


So, a quick thought. *I've been reposting some of my fics over on FIMfiction. *I'm in the midst of doing Semper Fidelis.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/22677/Semper-Fidelis **
(http://www.fimfiction.net/story/22677/Semper-Fidelis)
... where was all this love and goodwill for the story the first time around?

Right here you ninny!
Bet you thought we were just being nice because we were your friends huh? Ha! If thanqol and I have taught you anything, it should be that "Friendship is never having to pull your punches."


Just rewatched dragonshy. Noticed multiple ponies of different types showed the fainting goat reflex to fear in this episode and later ones.

Theory: Long ago the pre-equestria pony populations were at one point under assault by goat forces. I'm thinking a warlord ala ghengis khan, cheiftan neverfaints. Due to repeated sacking and raping of the womenfolk, goat genetics have been irrevocably mixed into the pony populations. Possibly also why some ponies have goatish beards.

In the phrase "rape and plunder", i don't think that word means what you think it means. (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?word=rapine)



Fixed that for you.

I mean, dude, there are limits to my tolerance! Jubilee as a vampire was the absolute one! (Am I going to keep harping on about this? You'd better believe it!)

Vampire ponies? Not on my rabidly violent watch

Best to keep you out of the IRC then...


Oh boy... Here comes the rant.
Shortened version: He apparently doesn't like vampires in general

Believe us; we know, and we enjoy getting him going. There is a soothing cadence to his violent diatribe, like waves of a deep red sea slamming chopping over you while you lie have submerged.

Besides, I've out-talked him before. It's not like I can't then spare the time to listen for a spell!


Yeah, that pushover Balor set up to shout in terror when Bleakbane ported into the abyss was a really nice touch by his PR guys as well. Very believable, and definitely good for spreading his reputation. I'm not going to survive the night, am I?

Hmmm.
The problem here is you are implying Blair's are not, typically, pushovers. They totally are.

That said, he's had vanguard training. I ain'tnt messing with him.


Eh, my alignment seems to vary dependant on all sorts of factors. I guess I have evolved beyond the confines of such a rigid morality system.

That, or I'm true neutral. One or the other.

Alignment is fun, and a relic from when AD&D had an implied default setting and if you changed it at all you were no longer playing AD&D, and if you had to ask about said setting you weren't smart enough to appreciate if and should just go play regular D&D, and leave the tournament level gaming to the big boys.



Magic. (http://patorjk.com/text-color-fader/)

WITCHCRAFT!


Ooh... I don't feel well. What... what has happened to me? Chrysalis... what did you do to me!?
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/36186e3f8fc0ac9242d2a03b8c247eca/173689%20-%20artist%3Ac2a%20bad_end%20celestia%20Chrysalis%2 0corruption%20Queen_Chryalis%20Queen_Cocoon%20tran sformation.jpg

Uh
I
That
She
They
Who

Aha.


That
That's
Um
Not pretty and appealing in any way no sirree
:smalleek:

*purs concealer over Lix's cutie mark*
... Cutie Mark Crusaders Queen Chrysalis Concubines?


Pfff, at least you didn't see the same kid you tried to save before getting blown up by a freaking REAPER when he was trying to escape!

You're kidding. You are kidding, right?

That kid, who exists only because kids dying is edgy?
Who's sole reason god being included is so magic sparkle mcguffin can seem legitimate despite being as reasonable or understandable as Charger discovering tear love?

The one Whois either an obvious hallucination or the first clue that the designers threw In a load of bunk and couldn't be arsed to add sound effects or, you know, verisimilitude of any stripe?

The kid who has no narrative or causal impact anywhere, but still haunts my poorly forced "nightmares" because kids are supposed to be all like, innocent, so let's off one for shock value?

You actually fell for that?
...
I've got a genie lamp. Wanna buy it? Only seven bits~


I have a slightly different but possibly more amusing variant.

"My fanon ruined season two!"

I VOTE FOR THIS FOR NEXT THREAD.


Right. Unicorns produce love from the appendix. *(I wonder how many people around here remember THAT reference?)

I DID! But I decided to quote post. I forgotDBC was back on the case, but I'll get you next time, in-joke! NNNNEEEEEeeeeexxxxttt ttttiiiiiiiiimmmmeee......



POKONIC (or whoever it was who got that contest drawrequest off me?), you asked for the FULL PONYTHREAD ELEMENTS OF HARMONY to be drawn by me.

WELL LET NO ONE SAY I HALF-ASS CONTEST REWARDS

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/119/7/9/day_347__artponies_by_thanqol-d4xx5fm.png

"What is it, SiuiS?"
"You see, Mask, a long time ago a bunch of friends decided they, too, could wield the elements of harmony. However, the group of friends was closer to forty than six. After a while, the elements started getting very silly."

Fullview here (http://thanqol.deviantart.com/art/Day-347-Artponies-298838722)

I USED MY FULL ASS

Fabulous. New screen saver?
...
Maybe.


Wow, impressive. *Now can you do a picture of what happens when they all fire? :smalltongue:

Sure!

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/75b99a0a.jpg

Turns out the ponythread elements were actually the villains! The mod team had to go on a sacred quest to restore reality. Rawhide has my voice locked up as hostage should we ever do it again.




Oh, good luck doing it against the (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumanityIsSuperior) humans (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAreWarriors) :smallbiggrin:

Son, please. Sit on down, let ol' Starry school you.

You know who is stronger and better than the average human?
The average Krogan.

You know who is better than the average Krogan?
A Krogan battlemaster.

You know what separates battlemasters from the chaff?
Training as a vanguard.

You know what that training enables a Krogan to do?
Create explosions and/or destroy buildings with their face.

You know who destroys buildings and creates explosions with her face?
Rainbow. Mirriam. Dash.

You've got commander Shepard? Please.
I've got a military race of living reusable nuclear superheroes.


My favorite season 2 song was Pinkie's Smile Smile Smile. *In fact, for me, it blows the competition out of the water so thoroughly that I'm having a hard time thinking of 2nd and 3rd favorite.

Totally took the words from my mouth, mate.


So....watched a bit, and I'm still prefering Call of Duty over the show.... and said it somewhere else and people are all like "BLASPHEMY!"....
....the frak? :smallconfused:

In the beginning, and even up to today, we got a lot of folks who never gave the show a chance, and decided they didn't like it purely out of hype backlash; that it was cool to dislike cool things.

So when you say "eh, it's no [manly stereotype]" what they hear is "I'm insecure and instead of dealing with that I'll say the thing you like is stupid". Which is dumb; pretty much all knee-jerk reactions are dumb. It's rather ironic really.

In the end though, it's entirely possible it's not your cup of tea. That's cool. I don't even like tea myself! I'm a coffee kinda unicorn. So We're in the same boat, you see, of not liking tea. And this boat we are in is heading for ADVENTURE!


Nope, because lions tend to leave very little waste.

Pfff lions leave all the waste, it's why scavengers love them.


Feeding on emotions like the Windigos is one thing. *Though they're extremely dangerous, they're still largely just animals doing what they do. *The changelings have the inherently unpleasant (I'll avoid calling it 'evil' to avoid any more animal comparisons :smalltongue:) trait of feeding on love. *They've evolved to be quite effective at stealing love from others to feed on. *On top of that, they're more intelligent than animals and bring those oh-so-wonderful traits like gluttony and a thirst for power with this ability. *They're smart, they could probably find a way to feed without hurting anypony. *They could just change into some unique pony and live peacefully among the ponies. *Do they? *No. *They go and invade the capital so they can just take whatever love they want. *(I have no idea how they would do this, or how Chrysalis expected to get love after revealing herself to the world. *Unless she was planning on completely replacing all of Canterlot and using it as a base of operations to infiltrate and feed off the other cities.)

Well first, both sanity and morality are inherently human constructs that stop being useful once you get into suitably alien arenas.

Second... How do we know the changelings are predatory? They may have existed for eons integrating slowly into pony society as the lore attached to the name suggests, doing no harm but still being persecuted if they were ever found out.
Or they may be like actual changelings, pug in place of stolen babies and not gaining control IC their power until puberty, when they are suddenly cast out their once-family for always having been a changeling.

Perhaps this is even necessary, and the changelings must capture baby ponies and use their cocoons to reproduce? They're sentient, so they aren't a parasite, unless you count vampires as parasites1. They are a sentient race. Should they die out because they're nature clashes with your delicate sensibilities of what is and is not okay behavior for sophonts?

Further, their queen MUST see after her people, that's the point of being ruler. And her people couldn't have been*doing well, as she said she brought them - all of them - to canter lot where food was plentiful rather than scarce. Her entire people.

Her species brought down to just one hive, barely surviving because their 'prey' was too unforgiving, too racist to accept such creatures? That, friend, is immoral.


DO IT! I WANT TO READ!

That's one more yes-vote than I expected, so sure!


I came out of basic about a week ago. It was.... an Interesting experience, to be honest. X)


First things, first, I suppose...


The first day we got there, the first things said to us:

"Get off the damn bus."

Already, things were horrible.

Quickly we were rushed upstairs and had to shower, shave, and brush our teeth all within about the space of two minutes. While we were unpacking, we were all forced to stop due to one pair giggling in the back. We stood around for half an hour while the MTI (Military Training Instructor) waited for him to tell a joke that made him laugh.*

We met our actual MTI sometime after that night. Man, he was an interesting character, let me tell you.
He didn't swear at us. No, no no. He didn't have to. the time we spent pushing on our faces was more than enough.

We learned drill, we learned customs and courtesies, we had to take our hats off as we entered a building and put them on as we left.

We had books to study on a lot of basic military subjects, and pretty much had to study them whenever we got the chance, which wasn't very often.*

The most difficult part, though, was just how detailed and neat we had to keep everything. and I mean EVERYTHING. T-shirts had to bee rolled PERFECTLY. completely flush, flat, and grounded. the top facing the rear of the wall locker. Towels flush and folded just so. NO strings on our uniforms (And trust me, they checked every inch of those things). No dust bunnies on the floors, hospital corners at 90 degrees... and you had to insure you did NOT, and I mean DID NOT, screw up on Entry Controller duty. no one was allowed to enter your dormitory unless they were authorized first.*

Anyways... X)

I was so afraid the whole time of getting recycled (The term used for sending you back in weeks if you weren't up to standard). I broke down about halfway through 2nd week. I was dribbling like a little baby!

WE got to go through a program called BEAST, which was a simulated combat environment. the best of that was sleeping in Tents. during a tornado. =)

There was a tornado that touched down near our campsite while we were in the tents. those winds were howling like crazy. and you know what? I only woke up once. Because I had to pee. :smallcool:

We had to do anything we could to keep ourselves sane. When the MTI wasn't there after we finished details, we would play baseball with a paper ball and a mop handle. I taught everyone silly riddle games like Green Glass Door, and we would constantly joke about our MTI and the silly things he and our Brother flight MTI would say.*

Our favorites were probably "Get outta the way!" and "NO!" it was the way he said it, more than what he said.

We also had another phrase we had borrowed from a different MTI:
"I'm a Honey Badger. I do what I want".

all in all, our flight did average. we weren't the best, but we were fairly decent at everything, Our marching, our PT, our tests.*

Boy, the MTI's could be scary, especially when you did something wrong. and you could not LAUGH at all if they did or said something funny. you would be drilled for that. Hard. They had so much fun testing us on our knowledge of your studies right after dinner.*

some of the funnier things they did and/or said:

I heard one sing the Mario theme song AT somebody. It was weird as anything.
And another hum circus clown music whenever a Trainee did something wrong.

I ended up failing on of my final locker inspections and nearly lost what little time I would have been able to spend on the town... but, luckily, I was able to work things out so I could. and San Antonio was AMAZING. I'm glad I was able to go and explore it. =)

I met a few people I might consider friends... but i barely see any of the ones that made it to the same tech school as me.*

Speaking of which, I am currently sitting here writing in Mississippi. and it's the weekend. AWWWW Yeah!


Keep on, man. I'm proud of you :smallsmile:


He looks so disappointed at the end. Although who wouldn't, that would be the best assignment ever. Effectively "write the Karma Sutra please."

Pet peeve: the Kama sutra isn't a book on sex.
It's a book on how to be a playboy. It only contains six actual "positions", no illustrations, and seems chock-full of misogyny. Like the chapter on how to beat your wife in a socially acceptable manner (but don't worry; she likes it!) or how to proposition your barber.


Ah, the good old times when we knew lions were evil and cannibalism wasn't. http://i.imgur.com/xJr4u.png

Times were simpler then. Food more plentiful.

Finding a lifemate was murder though.

It's good to see you mate! How ya been? Have an unrelated human nightmare moon!

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/240/b/2/nightmare_moon_by_jakneurotic-d483z41.jpg

On Deadly's Debate:

I must agree. The heart has no limits. Love is not defined by being solely between two people. Celestia could very well care for her subjects collectively enough that the changelings could all just naturalize and bask.

[Nameless]

Hey Aorts, I think I might have found your favorite thing? Is this yours?
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/119/2/0/tality__unicorna_vas_harmony_by_smashinator-d4xzkg9.png

In the meanwhile, I'm going to sit here and keep listening to my new favorite song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoTYZzFhfHc)

Which reminds me, someone needs to do a MLP/Dune cross over. It would please me greatly. >_<

No, I don't know why that picture made me think of that, but imagine the awesomeness! http://i.imgur.com/Dy4NS.png

EDIT:
I love this fan community. So much.

http://img.ponibooru.org/images/c5/c519beb4298051d59cea3db6d3e0021c
http://img.ponibooru.org/images/f6/f66c28926a50b19f3422f201605b162e
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/pensivepine/the_spice_must_flow.jpg

[Emperordaniel]

Okay, here's the list of episodes I made, putting them in what I believe to be chronological order:

01: Friendship is Magic, Parts 1 & 2 (midsummer, year 1)
02: The Ticket Master (late summer, year 1)
03: Applebuck Season (late summer, year 1)
04: Griffon the Brush-Off (late summer, year 1)
05: Boast Busters (late summer, year 1)
06: Swarm of the Century (late summer, year 1)
07: Dragonshy (late summer/early fall, year 1)
08: Look Before You Sleep (early fall, year 1)
09: Bridle Gossip (early fall, year 1)
10: Fall Weather Friends (late fall, year 1)
11: Winter Wrap Up (late winter/early spring, year 2)
12: Call of the Cutie (early spring, year 2)
13: Suited For Success (spring, year 2)
14: Feeling Pinkie Keen (spring, year 2)
15: Stare Master (late spring, year 2)
16: The Show Stoppers (late spring, year 2)
17: A Bird in the Hoof (late spring, year 2)
18: The Cutie Mark Chronicles (late spring/early summer, year 2)
19: A Dog and Pony Show (early summer, year 2)
20: Green Isn't Your Color (early summer, year 2)
21: Sonic Rainboom (early summer, year 2)
22: Over a Barrel (summer, year 2)
23: Owl's Well That Ends Well (summer, year 2)
24: Party of One (summer, year 2)
25: The Best Night Ever (summer, year 2)
26: The Return of Harmony, Parts 1 & 2 (summer, year 2)
27: Lesson Zero (summer, year 2)
28: Secret of My Excess (summer, year 2)
29: Luna Eclipsed (midsummer, year 2)
30: Sisterhooves Social (late summer, year 2)
31: The Cutie Pox (late summer, year 2)
32: Hearth's Warming Eve (early winter, year 2)
33: May the Best Pet Win! (early spring, year 3)
34: The Mysterious Mare Do Well (early spring, year 3)
35: Sweet and Elite (spring, year 3)
36: Hearts and Hooves Day (spring, year 3)
37: Family Appreciation Day (late spring, year 3)
38: [i]Baby Cakes (late spring, year 3)
39: The Last Roundup (early summer, year 3)
40: Read It and Weep (summer, year 3)
41: It's About Time (summer, year 3)
42: Dragon Quest (late summer, year 3)
43: A Friend in Deed (late summer, year 3)
44: Hurricane Fluttershy (late summer, year 3)
45: Ponyville Confidential (late summer, year 3)
46: MMMystery on the Friendship Express (late summer/early fall, year 3)
47: The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000 (early fall, year 3)
48: Putting Your Hoof Down (early fall, year 3)
49: A Canterlot Wedding, Parts 1 & 2 (fall, year 3)

[BlasTech]

Hmmm *clears throat*

Testing, Testing, One Two Three. Do I sound like her yet?

Good, I think this might have been mentioned before, but I'm afraid our sister has a slight problem with her mane (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/22660/1/Luna%2C-There's-a-Sentient-Race-Inside-Your-Mane/Full-Story)

[Welf]

Unfortunately, research into weaponizing love has stalled due to the persistent confusion regarding generation methods.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/116/8/d/the_magic_of_love_by_csimadmax-d4xo0n7.png

Where is Cadence looking in panel 2? http://i.imgur.com/ldfV9.png


But virtue needn't be defined by sacrifice.

If kindness is a virtue, and kindness is freely given with no cost to the giver, does it cease being virtuous?

Yes, but kindness can be given with cost to oneself. Maybe it's a virtue on account of promising sacrifice.


Pet peeve: the Kama sutra isn't a book on sex.
It's a book on how to be a playboy. It only contains six actual "positions", no illustrations, and seems chock-full of misogyny. Like the chapter on how to beat your wife in a socially acceptable manner (but don't worry; she likes it!) or how to proposition your barber.

So basically it was Man's Health with less pictures and nutrition tips??


Times were simpler then. Food more plentiful.

Finding a lifemate was murder though.

It's good to see you mate! How ya been? Have an unrelated human nightmare moon!

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/240/b/2/nightmare_moon_by_jakneurotic-d483z41.jpg[/spoiler]

Pretty bleak to be honest. Life is mocking me by giving me the things I wanted 10 years ago, at a time when I realized that those aren't important. Money is pretty useless in making you a better person or helping the people around you in some pivotal cases. http://i.imgur.com/KjRiq.png

And I still haven't worked on my attitude.

Also: I counter your unrelated human nightmare moon..


http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/227/4/6/uncrowned_princess_by_ladyamaltea-d46ocns.jpg

...and raise by several unrelated human Luna. (Unrelated Human Luna edition image dump)


http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/357/b/6/first_pony_in_space_by_davca-d4jz1uh.jpg
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/281/0/1/humanponies__twiluna_by_computer_faerie-d4c5ljy.jpg
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2011/300/d/4/princess_luna_by_tsuku_sama-d4e4ra7.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/357/3/c/no_more_nightmare_night_by_tylinn-d4k0p1e.png
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/363/2/d/2d01b15748506f86756e51e96e1fe994-d4km0ut.jpg
http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/085/d/1/luna_by_kutty_sark-d4tyybq.jpg


And some unrelated human Luna and Celestia images.

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/035/3/9/sun_and_moon_by_mistix-d4opev4.png
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/329/1/8/commission__celestina_x_luna_by_jadenkaiba-d4h8oql.jpg
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/084/4/1/sleep_well_dear_sister_by_pinkxombiepony-d4tunlo.jpg