Your ideal catfolk art

[BlueEyes]

There's a new blog on Paizo.com which introduces new options for catfolk. Of course people are praising Paizo for them, but there's also a discussion about the picture. Some like it, some don't. I don't. I don't even like the picture from Bestiary 3.
Personally I don't like when a creature that is supposed to be a humanoid is too monstrous in appearance. The pic from the blog (http://paizo.com/image/content/PathfinderRPG/PZO1121-Catfolk.jpg) is just too much of a monster to be a humanoid in my eyes. The Bestiary 3 pic (http://roleplayerschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/FGG-RE-Guide-to-Catfolk.jpg) is kinda meh. I could live with it, except for her face, which is still too monstrous.
I like mithra (race from FFXI), but I'm an anime and catgirl fan, so that's expected. As a race in an RPG like D&D they too humanoid for me.
Here are some examples of catfolk that I find okay:

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs16/f/2007/161/e/2/Catfolk_by_xidarkchyldexi.jpg
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs25/f/2008/175/9/7/Nissha___Redrawn_by_lug0si.jpg
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/247/3/e/kenari_sanura_by_syreene-d2xznwh.jpg
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/322/a/1/cinnamon_by_everwho-d3kmlos.jpg
(The face on this one is meh.)


That being said: What is your ideal art for a catfolk in D&D or PF (or similar RPG)?

[Morph Bark]

While I understand your gripe with Pathfinder catfolk here, the ones in 3.5 look much more like the pictures you show. Which is a good thing, imo.

[Rallicus]

I guess just a bipedal version of their animal counterpart, but with hands and opposable thumbs. Ideally I wouldn't want boobs on the female version, just because it's kind of stupid and serves no purpose other than to appeal to some nerd's fantasy.

http://wizards.com/dnd/images/art_preview/20080423_114844_456vbn_0.jpg

[DigoDragon]

I like mithra (race from FFXI), but I'm an anime and catgirl fan, so that's expected.

I guess Mithra would be what I'd choose for the poster children catfolk.

[BlueEyes]

I guess just a bipedal version of their animal counterpart, but with hands and opposable thumbs. Ideally I wouldn't want boobs on the female version, just because it's kind of stupid and serves no purpose other than to appeal to some nerd's fantasy.

http://wizards.com/dnd/images/art_preview/20080423_114844_456vbn_0.jpg
That's a Rakshasa.
As for the breasts, well, they're humanoids, so I rather have them follow humanoid standards.

[Righteous Doggy]

Oddly enough we had a day where 2 people played a catfolk and got into a spat about how they should look. One person said they should look uber human(like, a little girl with little catears, not even fur) and the other said they should look like a tall muscular catbeast... We just decided it was best if we let people bring whatever they wanted to the table and ignored the arguements(and that there were several races of catfolk with the same name... worked out better than I thought). I've never thought of Rakshasa as catpeople btw, they've got crazy hands and theres a second version of them in ToB. Not really meant for players I thought.

[Rallicus]

That's a Rakshasa.
As for the breasts, well, they're humanoids, so I rather have them follow humanoid standards.

I know it's a Rakshasa. That's my ideal catfolk.

And I know they're humanoids. But assuming you believe that humans evolved from apes, and cat people evolved from cats... well, you'd have a lot more nipples than two. Turning those into boobs would require all of 'em to be turned.

Just saying.

[BlueEyes]

I know it's a Rakshasa. That's my ideal catfolk.

And I know they're humanoids. But assuming you believe that humans evolved from apes, and cat people evolved from cats... well, you'd have a lot more nipples than two. Turning those into boobs would require all of 'em to be turned.

Just saying.
Cats have many nipples because they have many kittens. I don't imagine catfolk to have that many children, because they're intelligent, so their offspring is more likely to survive, so they born less kids (like a human), so they have less, but bigger breasts. Hence, human-like tits.

[Saph]

I guess just a bipedal version of their animal counterpart, but with hands and opposable thumbs. Ideally I wouldn't want boobs on the female version, just because it's kind of stupid and serves no purpose other than to appeal to some nerd's fantasy.

http://wizards.com/dnd/images/art_preview/20080423_114844_456vbn_0.jpg

I'm going to throw in another vote for this picture. It might be a rakshasa, but it looks much cooler than the pics in the OP. :smallbiggrin:

[hamishspence]

Might be worth finding the 3.5 catfolk art for comparison purposes:

Miniatures Handbook
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mhbk_gallery/76978_CN.jpg
Races of the Wild
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/row_gallery/86632.jpg

[Nero24200]

I'm going to throw in another vote for this picture. It might be a rakshasa, but it looks much cooler than the pics in the OP. :smallbiggrin:

I'll go for this as well. The ones in the OP just come across as humans with body paint and cat-ears stuck on.

[BlueEyes]

Some more pics I like:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs17/f/2007/129/9/9/Sexy_leopard_girl_by_Kiken_Girl.jpg
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/016/b/6/commission___leopard_girl_by_lavender_ice-d4mk2eu.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/145/1/d/miia__white_tiger_girl_by_kawa_v-d3h7vl8.jpg

[Story Time]

...I don't think that I have an ideally specific cat-folk art. When I think of cat-folk I think of my philosophy about were-wolves. That philosophy boils down to, "If it looks like a human with lots of hair, it's not a were-wolf."

I know, I'm different. :smallredface:

I can appreciate the people that prefer the beauty of the human form. There's nothing wrong with that. But when I think of blending species together, human-with-fur does not compute for me. :smallbiggrin:

Oh well. Have a nice day, every-one! :smallsmile:

[Saph]

Some more pics I like:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs17/f/2007/129/9/9/Sexy_leopard_girl_by_Kiken_Girl.jpg
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/016/b/6/commission___leopard_girl_by_lavender_ice-d4mk2eu.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/145/1/d/miia__white_tiger_girl_by_kawa_v-d3h7vl8.jpg

Have to say, I'd be a bit uncomfortable with these as standard catfolk. They're too sexualised for me.

[Tengu_temp]

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2185/2346628993_dab4ca8b1b_z.jpg?zz=1

[BlueEyes]

Have to say, I'd be a bit uncomfortable with these as standard catfolk. They're too sexualised for me.
:smallconfused:

They where drawn that way, because that was the point. Doesn't mean that catfolk based on them would also be sexualized. They're only examples how I'd like them to look, not how they should be drawn...

[hamishspence]

What about people who've had facial surgery to look more catlike- are there any good examples- and would this be a good starting point for the "minimum level of catness" a catfolk needs?

[BlueEyes]

What about people who've had facial surgery to look more catlike- are there any good examples- and would this be a good starting point for the "minimum level of catness" a catfolk needs?

http://petegraham.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/catman.png?w=450
Even ignoring that the guy was ugly before the surgery, that's not really how I's like my catfolk to look like.

[hamishspence]

D20 Modern's Moreau's (animal/human hybrids) cover both ends of the spectrum:

http://www.wizards.com/d20modern/images/d20m_gallery/610_088190_69.jpg

[dsmiles]

Okay, I'll bite.

This is what I look for when I hear "Catfolk":http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/angelusexmachina___cbust_by_kharnage-d3c46yw.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/4cxbd.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/a02GW.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/angelusexmachina___cbust_2_by_kharnage-d3c8zik.jpg
All found somewhere on Devian Tart.

[DefKab]

Okay, I'll bite.

This is what I look for when I hear "Catfolk":http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/angelusexmachina___cbust_by_kharnage-d3c46yw.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/4cxbd.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/a02GW.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/angelusexmachina___cbust_2_by_kharnage-d3c8zik.jpg
All found somewhere on Devian Tart.

You know, I've never been a fan of cat-folk. Really, they just seem rediculous to me, but if I had to have them, these are the kind I'd like...

[dsmiles]

You know, I've never been a fan of cat-folk. Really, they just seem rediculous to me, but if I had to have them, these are the kind I'd like...In my mind, there's a reason "cat" comes first in that word. Kind of like "Peanut Butter" is more peanutty than buttery.

[Boci]

I'm going to throw in another vote for this picture. It might be a rakshasa, but it looks much cooler than the pics in the OP. :smallbiggrin:

I'd say that's the problem: its too cool. Its fine as an example of a high level martial catfolk, ideally with a blend of the primal like a totemist or barbarian/warblade, but as a default catfolk it looks a bit too majestic and powerful. Maybe that's just me though.

[Tvtyrant]

I would go for anything that doesn't look like a person in a costume.

http://community.imaginefx.com/fxpose/lycan_knights_portfolio/images/327641/485x375.aspx
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ccmmii/weretiger.jpghttp://www.d20pfsrd.com/_/rsrc/1325378027625/races/monsters-as-pcs/catfolk.PNG?height=400&width=295
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg441/scaled.php?server=441&filename=werecat03ri4.jpg&res=landing
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/165/1/f/desert_werecat_by_perianardocyl-d3ixhqy.jpg

[Salbazier]

http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/016/b/6/commission___leopard_girl_by_lavender_ice-d4mk2eu.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/145/1/d/miia__white_tiger_girl_by_kawa_v-d3h7vl8.jpg[/CENTER]

I like these images. (though yes, unlikely to be good option for standard catfolk art). Except the last one has breast that are too big.

Good catfolk art for me.. Euh, I know the term form Magic:The gathering so their catfolk arts is the ideal/standard catfolk art in my hat ('catgirl' have different connotation:smalltongue:). Those maybe fall to OP's 'too monstrous' category though.

EDIT: I like this even more
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/angelusexmachina___cbust_by_kharnage-d3c46yw.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/4cxbd.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/a02GW.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/angelusexmachina___cbust_2_by_kharnage-d3c8zik.jpg

[BlueEyes]

I like these images. (though yes, unlikely to be good option for standard catfolk art). Except the last one has breast that are too big.
Again, these are obviously just examples. Just because one of the pics has big breasts doesn't mean all catfolk (based on it) should have big breasts.
When you see a picture of a big breasted Spanish girl do you also think that all Spanish women are big breasted? :smallconfused:

[Rallicus]

Seems like the majority of people are split between "sexy, exotic human cat-hybrids" and "bipedal cats with human hands." Which really says a lot about people. :smallamused:

I forgot to mention that I hate mithras. They're a constant remainder of men playing catgirls who got gifts from lonely basement dwellers, while I had to work my butt off for everything as my taru taru. I remember hating this mithra in my linkshell because she (or he?) always got people to help them. They'd ignore my requests most of the time.

Personal rant aside, not everyone is going to be pleased. Some people, like me, prefer the change Pazio made. I'm sure this is causing an outrage among the Pathfinder Furry community, but hey, it is what it is.

[Morph Bark]

Again, these are obviously just examples. Just because one of the pics has big breasts doesn't mean all catfolk (based on it) should have big breasts.
When you see a picture of a big breasted Spanish girl do you also think that all Spanish women are big breasted? :smallconfused:

Coincedentally, the only Spanish girls I've dated were big breasted.

While one picture wouldn't logically mean everyone of that race/ethnicity looks like that, a lot of people will still make assumptions based on the picture. (From your example, they might think "Spanish women are more often big breasted than American women".)

I'm at least glad that there haven't been any pics yet of catgirls with six boobs or rows of nipples. :smalleek: Frankly, I prefer my bipedal mammals with one pair on the chest and quadrupedal with maybe more and moreso on the belly, just like in real life. (There are some exceptions, of course, but they are exceptions.)

Perfect example of a catgirl that I like is Flora from TwoKinds. IMO, that comic does the beast-people right.

[Rallicus]

Perfect example of a catgirl that I like is Flora from TwoKinds. IMO, that comic does the beast-people right.

Welp.

A warning to anyone who, like me, decides to search this character up after reading Morph's post:

Expect some NSFW furry porn. :smallsigh:

[Righteous Doggy]

Welp.

A warning to anyone who, like me, decides to search this character up after reading Morph's post:

Expect some NSFW furry porn. :smallsigh:

Welcome to the internet! Personally I like it when the beasties are more anatomically closer to their animals and the neko kiddos are closer to their human origin to make everyone happy.

[Lord Raziere]

I'm at least glad that there haven't been any pics yet of catgirls with six boobs or rows of nipples. :smalleek: Frankly, I prefer my bipedal mammals with one pair on the chest and quadrupedal with maybe more and moreso on the belly, just like in real life. (There are some exceptions, of course, but they are exceptions.)

Perfect example of a catgirl that I like is Flora from TwoKinds. IMO, that comic does the beast-people right.

Agreed. Ya have to do it right.

I prefer my hybrids in general to not be too human, or too beastly. A good and right middle is where I'm at.

I mean really the "cat girls" that basically just humans with cat ears and tails? They don't look real. They just look like a human put on a couple props.

On the other end, too beastly and they are just talking cats, not real hybrids to my way of thinking.

[BlueEyes]

Welp.

A warning to anyone who, like me, decides to search this character up after reading Morph's post:

Expect some NSFW furry porn. :smallsigh:
Please, don't misinform people. It's NSFW at times, yes, but it's hardly porn. More like ecchi.

[Rallicus]

Please, don't misinform people. It's NSFW at times, yes, but it's hardly porn. More like ecchi.

Google images shows otherwise, my friend.

[Morph Bark]

And that is why you shouldn't use Google Images too much. Heck, I've never seen anything beyond just a little ecchi with Flora in it, and definitely nothing porny! :smalleek:

And while some might deem the comic NSFW, well, I'd advise not reading the comic during work, yes, but the only nudity shown is covered in fur and there are very very few provocative poses. Most stuff is either romantic or played for laughs, especially with the crossdressing wolfgirl.

[Rallicus]

And that is why you shouldn't use Google Images too much.

Think about this for a second.

Someone on a forum suggests something as a "perfect example" of the topic at hand.

Now what do you think the average person would do to see what this "perfect example" looks like? My money's on google images, because that's what I did. And I was met with a plethora of furry porn.

"Ecchi," "hentai," whatever. Argue semantics all you want, you're still gonna be met with a ton of porn of the character in question if you search for it in google.

I was just warning people, geeze.

[dsmiles]

Now what do you think the average person would do to see what this "perfect example" looks like? My money's on google images, because that's what I did. And I was met with a plethora of furry porn.
Safe Search is your friend. :smallwink:

[Flickerdart]

http://www.magicdeckvortex.com/ART3/jareth_leonine_titan_art_by_daren_bader.jpg
Now there's a man's catfolk. None of this sissy tabby stuff. If you want catfolk, go straight for the lion.

[Rallicus]

Safe Search is your friend. :smallwink:

Apparently not.

Typed in "Flora Twokinds" with safe search on Strict. Still got porn. Maybe not as heavy as some of the other stuff I saw when searching for it on "Moderate," but it's still porn.

Try for yourself and see. :smallconfused:

In any event - why are you guys even arguing with me? The facts are there, and all I did was warn people of what they'd probably see if they looked it up.

[Salbazier]

Again, these are obviously just examples. Just because one of the pics has big breasts doesn't mean all catfolk (based on it) should have big breasts.
When you see a picture of a big breasted Spanish girl do you also think that all Spanish women are big breasted? :smallconfused:

No, it was just my comment about the art of the picture itself, not related to whether or not it is appropriate or representative as a catfolk poster art.

[BlueEyes]

Morph Bark was talking about the comic, not some random pictures from DeviantArt. The comic is far from porny.

[NikitaDarkstar]

Morph Bark was talking about the comic, not some random pictures from DeviantArt. The comic is far from porny.

I'm fairly certain he meant if you look it up with google, anyway that's how I read it. And it was a fair warning, if I had done that at school, even with safe search on I would have gotten my computer banned faster than I could blink and get stuck filling out forms and explaining myself for a week to get unbanned. (Administration office is slow as hell and IT department couldn't care less about your reasons...)

Anyway I do prefer mine as well mixed hybrids, along the lines of the Khajiit (think that's the spelling) from Elder Scrolls.
And girls can have more human anatomy simply because anything else looks strange (even if I do have a vague memory of 3.5's catfolk indeed having "litters" more than one kid at a time.. but I could be wrong.), as long as it's sensible. Huge boobs are just annoying, even more so on something that isn't very human to begin with.

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/310/5/4/khajiit__in_color_by_yamber-d32a6gm.jpg

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/331/7/d/skyrim_kimahri_by_dragonphase-d4hj243.jpg

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/048/d/3/d3819b8f47dca43cfac3f59b4232d10c-d39s00t.jpg

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/360/9/1/khajiit_warrior_by_saxgirl1010-d4k8wke.png

[Morph Bark]

Think about this for a second.

Someone on a forum suggests something as a "perfect example" of the topic at hand.

Now what do you think the average person would do to see what this "perfect example" looks like? My money's on google images, because that's what I did. And I was met with a plethora of furry porn.

I dunno what "the average person" would do, but I always just Google for the main source, in this case that would be the comic itself.

Here (http://twokinds.keenspot.com/) is a link to it for the people interested, by the way. I really recommend it. It's one of my favourite comics, though I haven't checked it in ages, and I usually dislike furry stuff. It's also been consistently in the Top 10 on Topwebcomics.com, being number 2 for a very long time. In fact, it is currently the number 1!

By the way, Rallicus, to stay on topic: besides the porn you came across, what did you actually think of the look of the character?

[DigoDragon]

Google is like a verb now in my vocabulary.

Anyway, I think Khajiits work too for a good catfolk look.
But here's a thought-- if the species has fur, how will that affect the style of clothing they wear? I always have this thought process that a species with lots of fur would be uncomfortable in heavy clothes unless theylive in cold climates.

So my idea of catfolk, at least in warm climates, probably don't deal with long sleeves. Maybe something like this (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/khajiitcharacter.jpg/sr=1)?

[Solaris]

Why would they wear clothing at all, except for utility purposes?

I've always preferred they look more like elves with slit pupils, tails and feline ears. Elves have always struck me as being more feline than primate, anyways. A'course, I'm perfectly happy calling that critter a shifter and then using the catfolk stats for the more bestial type if anybody's actually interested in playing either. Thus far, can't say I've had anyone who wanted to.

[Rallicus]

By the way, Rallicus, to stay on topic: besides the porn you came across, what did you actually think of the look of the character?

Didn't like it.

That sort of "crude" anime style that the comic seems to use doesn't appeal to me. I can't picture what said character would look like if they were taken out of this particular art style, so I just see an anime cat person. Which isn't my ideal choice for cat person art.

[ShadowFighter15]

Don't have anything to provide, but just a small correction for people who're reading this and haven't seen the Catfolk in Bestiary 3. The image in the OP that says it's from Bestiary 3 (http://roleplayerschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/FGG-RE-Guide-to-Catfolk.jpg) isn't the picture that was used in the book. This is the one from the Bestiary (excuse the excess text, I don't have Photoshop on here to clean it up):
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m274/ShadowFighter_15/Catfolk.jpg

[dsmiles]

Don't have anything to provide, but just a small correction for people who're reading this and haven't seen the Catfolk in Bestiary 3. The image in the OP that says it's from Bestiary 3 (http://roleplayerschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/FGG-RE-Guide-to-Catfolk.jpg) isn't the picture that was used in the book. This is the one from the Bestiary (excuse the excess text, I don't have Photoshop on here to clean it up):
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m274/ShadowFighter_15/Catfolk.jpgWhat the?!?!? Is that a Cheshire Catfolk? It's friggin' PURPLE, for cryin' out loud!

[Knaight]

I rather like these:
http://cdn.wolfire.com/blog/prototype/catlord21.jpg
http://cdn.wolfire.com/legacy/catB.jpg
Both are concept art from the videogame Overgrowth. The first is some sort of noble, the second a warrior.

[BlueEyes]

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m274/ShadowFighter_15/Catfolk.jpg
Wow, that's actually a nice picture. Sorry for the mistake.

[dsmiles]

I rather like these:
http://cdn.wolfire.com/blog/prototype/catlord21.jpg
http://cdn.wolfire.com/legacy/catB.jpg
Both are concept art from the videogame Overgrowth. The first is some sort of noble, the second a warrior.

I dig those. Cat Warlords, Cat Samurai, and hopefully Cat Ninja!

[fergo]

Some more pics I like:


http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/145/1/d/miia__white_tiger_girl_by_kawa_v-d3h7vl8.jpg

She must be freezing, poor girl :smallfrown:.

[Righteous Doggy]

She must be freezing, poor girl :smallfrown:.

She has plenty of insulation I'm sure... its just sad its in one place.

[BlueEyes]

She must be freezing, poor girl :smallfrown:.
She has fur. :smallconfused:

[Tvtyrant]

She has fur. :smallconfused:

Because fur is always adequate to any amount of cold, and civilizations that live within comfortable temperatures frequently invent clothing :P

[fergo]

She has fur. :smallconfused:

Then why is she wearing clothes? :smallconfused:

:smallwink:

[Righteous Doggy]

Then why is she wearing clothes? :smallconfused:

its just a cloak, its more like an accesory than anything.:smalltongue:

[nyarlathotep]

She must be freezing, poor girl :smallfrown:.

And she has a spine that would make Rob Liefeld cringe.

[ShadowFighter15]

Wow, that's actually a nice picture. Sorry for the mistake.

No need to apologise - I couldn't find it anywhere on the net even knowing the artist's name (Carolina Eade, for anyone who can't read it for the page border in the image) so I decided to upload it myself.

I do question that particular catfolk's choice of footwear, though - how the hell can a rogue be sneaky and agile with boots that big?

:smalltongue:

[OverdrivePrime]

:smalleek: Yikes. I was going to respond with a 'killing catgirls' image... but I'm too horrified to go image hunting any longer. Image searching for 'dead catgirl' yields some pretty stomach-churning results. I was looking for comedy, not repulsive horror! :smallsigh:

Uh, anyway... this thread has certainly been enlightening. I'm gonna go re-read ToB to try to shake off this gross feeling.

[erikun]

Seems like the majority of people are split between "sexy, exotic human cat-hybrids" and "bipedal cats with human hands." Which really says a lot about people. :smallamused:
Stick me in the second camp. Sorry, but when someone says "cat-person", I think... a cat person, not a human with funny ears.

FFXI Mithra work as a nice moderate-ground. They still look like humans (mostly) and still look like cats (somewhat). A lot of times they look just like humans with a poorly-drawn black spot on their noses.

Stereotypical anime catgirls can be cute, but make your head hurt when you try to think about them too much.

[Knaight]

I dig those. Cat Warlords, Cat Samurai, and hopefully Cat Ninja!

Probably no cat ninja. The rats and rabbits pretty much have a monopoly on highly effective stealth, though cats are better than either wolves or dogs.

It looks like it is going to be an awesome game, once it finally gets out.

[Amiel]

It depends on how anthropomorphic you want them to be; they can run the gamut from having nearly all humanoid features to possessing only a humanoid body.

[Roland St. Jude]

Sheriff: Maybe stop talking about porn?

Also, I got yer catfolk right here! (http://onlytheblogknowsbrooklyn.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5fb353ef0111689189e8970c-popup)

EDIT: I first tried to post this back when things were trending in a very porn-tangent direction. :smallsigh:

[Honest Tiefling]

Personally, if I were to design catfolk or tweak them for a campaign, I'm going to lean to more bestial for rule of cool factor. I like monstrous races to play something not-human, so a human with funky ears is just unappealing. If I want a human, there's human and several races which often seem like different flavors of human if not handled right.

However, I think the most important factor to consider is the origin of the race. If the catfolk are cursed humans, then being more human is alright. If they are a unique race, I'd lean more to big n' beastly.

I find the lack of pants a bit off-putting, since it sorta makes the art tackier, makes the characters seem like idiots with poor hygiene, and most importantly, raises questions regarding what gear can be worn and the cost of armor.

[Boci]

Also, I got yer catfolk, right here. (http://onlytheblogknowsbrooklyn.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5fb353ef0111689189e8970c-popup)

Doesn't work for me. I only get this:

403: Forbidden

This error message is generated when the web server is trying to access a file that does not exist or has been configured incorrectly

{Right you are. I've fixed it now, I think}

[Blisstake]

The Bestiary 3 pic (http://roleplayerschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/FGG-RE-Guide-to-Catfolk.jpg) is kinda meh.

This has probably been said, but that isn't even close to what the catfolk artwork looks like in Bestiary 3.

Edit: That's a third-party book by someone or other about catfolk.

[DigoDragon]

What the?!?!? Is that a Cheshire Catfolk? It's friggin' PURPLE, for cryin' out loud!

I know isn't it great! I love purple! :smallbiggrin:
But seriously, Its a bit odd how that girl can bend like a rubber band.

[NotScaryBats]

My cats move just like that. They are lithe and their spines are quite flexible. I have a cat that frequently sleeps with her legs to the right and her front paws up and to the left, with her spine curved to boot. Try to do that yourself -- as a relaxing pose -- and you realize just how much more flexible a cat is than a person.

I think it follows that a catfolk would have that feline grace and flexibility. That particular picture is perfectly slinky and feline for me; I was impressed and think it is my new go-to.

[Knaight]

My cats move just like that. They are lithe and their spines are quite flexible. I have a cat that frequently sleeps with her legs to the right and her front paws up and to the left, with her spine curved to boot. Try to do that yourself -- as a relaxing pose -- and you realize just how much more flexible a cat is than a person.

There are a great many poses that a full on contortionist would damage their spine doing, that cats can and will take for relaxation purposes. The spine is part of this, the semi-disconnected skull another part, so on and so forth.

[Solaris]

I know isn't it great! I love purple! :smallbiggrin:
But seriously, Its a bit odd how that girl can bend like a rubber band.

I'm with psiclone on this. Cats are more like a liquid than a solid, and it stands that catfolk would then be about as flexible.
Of course, I also chuckle at the image of a big scary kzinti-looking thing taking off at light speed when you enter the room, tail high in the air, or walking up to you and pushing you down the stairs just because.

[dsmiles]

Cats are more like a liquid than a solid, and it stands that catfolk would then be about as flexible.

Indeed.
http://i.imgur.com/j9vAH.jpg

[mrzomby]

Some more pics I like:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs17/f/2007/129/9/9/Sexy_leopard_girl_by_Kiken_Girl.jpg
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/016/b/6/commission___leopard_girl_by_lavender_ice-d4mk2eu.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/145/1/d/miia__white_tiger_girl_by_kawa_v-d3h7vl8.jpg

moar like "i like cat girls humanoid enough to have nice ***ies, but animal enough to not wear that much clothing"

[Solaris]

Indeed.
http://i.imgur.com/j9vAH.jpg
That poster illustrates it quite excellently.


moar like "i like cat girls humanoid enough to have nice ***ies, but animal enough to not wear that much clothing"

Alternatively, he prefers them to be humanoid enough to not seem more like an animal than a person. Honestly, the line between a 'monster' race and a 'normal' race really does seem to include having a human-like face and body type.
And I assure you, it doesn't take being semi-animal to run around half-nekkid. Just ask my co-workers.

[Seerow]

What's really fun is to go through this thread and take note of the number of female 'catfolk' pictures vs the number of male 'catfolk' pictures.

Makes you think....

[dsmiles]

Makes you think....
...that they're WAY easier to find on the interwebz. :smallwink:

[BlueEyes]

moar like "i like cat girls humanoid enough to have nice ***ies, but animal enough to not wear that much clothing"
I don't quite understand what you're trying to say. :smallconfused:

[TheOOB]

I actually like the 3.5 catfolk, ala Minatures Handbook and Races of the Wild. The actually look like a wizard or some bored god mixed some cat in with a human, rather than being all one with a few traits of another. The more furry ones(for lack of a better word), either look too bestial and rough, traits I'd normally associate with lycanthropes or monsters, or they look like supermodels with fur.

I can also see them looking like Final Fantasy mithra, mostly because I could see a wizard doing that.

[Solaris]

What's really fun is to go through this thread and take note of the number of female 'catfolk' pictures vs the number of male 'catfolk' pictures.

Makes you think....

I have no idea what you're talking about, and what you're insinuating is preposterous.

[Knaight]

What's really fun is to go through this thread and take note of the number of female 'catfolk' pictures vs the number of male 'catfolk' pictures.

Makes you think....

With a lot of the more feline ones, it's not like we can actually tell anyways. Some of them have been certainly female, but with the possible exception of the Rakshasha none of them are certainly male.

[Morph Bark]

What's really fun is to go through this thread and take note of the number of female 'catfolk' pictures vs the number of male 'catfolk' pictures.

Makes you think....

Feline and rabbit beast-people have become associated with sexy things in our society, which invariable ends up skewing their portrayal towards the female sex. Other beast-people portrayals are more balanced, though wolves (or werewolves at least) and bears might be skewed towards males.

It's like a "power vs sexy" balance. If the race can maul your face off with ease, there are more males, or they are at least male-dominant. If they are sexy, there are more females. If they are balanced or neither is heavily associated with them (not more than with humans at least), there is a sex balance.

As in, a balance between the sexes. Not the other thing. :smallredface:

[Yora]

Cat people...cat people...purr like cat, talk like people...

I don't like antromorphic animals.

However, the closest thing I do like are Cathar from Knights of the Old Republic and the Ferai-Hybrid from Primal. Unfortunately Primal is so obscure there are barely any screenshots.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/comics/totj/cathar.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78679/1870134-sylvar_super.jpg

http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/09/3/5/3/74075412844101568.jpg

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/011/3/9/rhonun_tor___cathar_jedi_by_sephirothowns-d4lzpau.jpg

http://oi39.tinypic.com/24l5vee.jpg

I found one really good cathar picture, but I am not sure if they are actually wearing only loincloths on their homeworld, so I didn't klick that link.

http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/884290/article_post_width_open-uri20120222-27128-1098k96

http://www.3dtotal.com/team/interviews/primal/primal%20images/Jen-Ferai.jpg

http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/884339/article_post_width_open-uri20120222-27128-xlclu3

http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/884291/article_post_width_open-uri20120222-27128-1bpqk8q

http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2003/ps2/primal/0324/p_screen002.jpg

Both I heavily canibalized and mixed with a good deal of Qunari for a homebrew fantasy race. :smallbiggrin:


Indeed.
http://i.imgur.com/j9vAH.jpg

http://www.owned.lv/images/x3x752b18d86ab61bb87124e2341709b3ba.jpg

Though I particularly liked the coment on this one:
"Wrong. Just open the drawer. The cat will enter the drawer and assume the optimal folding position all by itself." :smallbiggrin:

[Doorhandle]

So true about the self-folding thing. :smallbiggrin:

I personally prefer my catfolk on the more humanlikeside but I can understand why you might want to avoid it.

[DigoDragon]

I'm with psiclone on this. Cats are more like a liquid than a solid, and it stands that catfolk would then be about as flexible.

I guess I just haven't had the pleasure of seeing very flexible cats in action. For example, my roommate's cat just tends to bulldoze his way through everything with the grace of a bull.

But I suppose there's some merit in picturing catfolk being this flexible.

[Hunter Noventa]

I don't get what half of you are talking about, so here's a picture of the catfolk I'm playing in my current campaign.

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/056/9/1/022510__eve_blade_commission_by_crybringer.jpg

[Misery Esquire]

I don't get what half of you are talking about, so here's a picture of the catfolk I'm playing in my current campaign.

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/056/9/1/022510__eve_blade_commission_by_crybringer.jpg

AND THE CLOTHES COME RIGHT OFF

/tvsalesman

Khajiit has no time for these "catfolk." Khajiit thinks that everyone's cats should be whichever sort of cat they wish to be.

[Greyfeld85]

I used the top picture for a character once. The second picture is from the same website. The last picture kinda gives an idea of the sort of clothing a fur-covered race might typically wear.

http://sadpanda.us/images/485990-RJIPJ0W.jpg
http://primordiax.com/img/races/catfolk.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/kolidascope/images/5/5d/Cat-Folk.jpg

[averagejoe]

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2185/2346628993_dab4ca8b1b_z.jpg?zz=1

This is what I think of when I think of catfolk. I mean, I've never seen this guy before, but this is amazing. Everything I thought I knew about catfolk has been turned upside down!


I dig those. Cat Warlords, Cat Samurai, and hopefully Cat Ninja!

They have a word for cat ninjas. They're called, "Cats."

[Doorhandle]

This is what I think of when I think of catfolk. I mean, I've never seen this guy before, but this is amazing. Everything I thought I knew about catfolk has been turned upside down!



Well, I don't know about catfolk, but that about sums up tibbits and the "cat-burgler" class for me.

[Hanuman]

I have some gripes about the whole furry thing, honestly I'd hope anyone going for an animalism connection to get away from cartoons, synthetic suits and trendy subculture and reside on the older more primal side of the spectrum.

In terms of what art style I like? Face it, catfolk are monsterous humanoids and should be drawn as such. Yes they do have feelings but trying really hard to personify their expressions into human terms would be more of a "human stuck in werecat body" theme more than an actual fusion of both trends. Cats as animals simply do not facially express like humans, so it's really unnerving when they do... which could work if you're going for that.

[Grail]

I've never liked the idea of catfolk, cat people, cat men, whatever... but if they have to exist, it'd be good if they had a different name, something unique and original and not totally boring and lame.

Onto pictures...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Smeghead/1-13l.jpg

sorry, had to do it.

SLA Industries had a race of feline-like creatures known as Wraith Raiders... they were always pretty cool, I think because they were only feline-like, rather than being actual felines, came from a frozen planet, had a coolish (no pun) culture and it was SLA Industries! :smallbiggrin:

http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/assets/39006/WraithRaider.png

[Hanuman]

Well, are we talking housecatfolk or are we talking bigcatfolk?

[Morph Bark]

I don't get what half of you are talking about, so here's a picture of the catfolk I'm playing in my current campaign.

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/056/9/1/022510__eve_blade_commission_by_crybringer.jpg

While I like the picture, I always found it rather odd that some people put hair like that on a catfolk. Not so much as the length (although that is a bit awkward on some catfolk too), but moreso the different hair colour.

Also, it seems like that picture is less of a catfolk and more like a raccoonfolk with that tail. :smalltongue:

[FrodoGoofball]

While I like the picture, I always found it rather odd that some people put hair like that on a catfolk. Not so much as the length (although that is a bit awkward on some catfolk too), but moreso the different hair colour.

Also, it seems like that picture is less of a catfolk and more like a raccoonfolk with that tail. :smalltongue:
That thought occurred to me as well, but horses' manes can be a different color than their fur (http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com/horse-forums/weird-interesting-colored-horses-279079.html) as can a lion's (http://michaelfairchild.com/safari/).

These are ferals (http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/?p=2883) - sort of a halfling variant of catpeople (the large figure is a mimian in disguise; the nearest relatives of mimians that I know of an image of out of costume are the Nal'sarkoth clan (http://wiki.drowtales.com/index.php/Val%27Nal%27Sarkoth).)

[Zombulian]

I agree with the whole Miniatures Handbook look of cat-folk. If you want more people-lookin characters, go for a shifter to get the big-cat look, if you want a more house-cat look go for a Tibbit. If you want more beastly, were-tiger/whatever or a Rakshasa.
Lastly, this (http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1936)

[BlueEyes]

Face it, catfolk are monsterous humanoids and should be drawn as such.
No, they're not. Both 3.5 and PF catfolk are humanoids. :smallconfused:

[Lord Raziere]

While I like the picture, I always found it rather odd that some people put hair like that on a catfolk. Not so much as the length (although that is a bit awkward on some catfolk too), but moreso the different hair colour.

Also, it seems like that picture is less of a catfolk and more like a raccoonfolk with that tail. :smalltongue:

Me, I call em Top-Hairs- they're catfolk with a strange sense of fashion, and decided to grow out the hair on their head while keep shedding the rest of their fur, while dying the head-hair a different color, in a weird subculture thats oddly very popular among catfolk, who are called Top-Hairs.

other catfolk of course find them strange, as they think to themselves: "Why don't they die the rest of their body too?" they think the Top-Hairs like we think of people with full body tattoos.

[lunar2]

well, don't have a picture, but i've always pictured catfolk as being (mostly) bipedal (walk on two legs, run on two or four, crouch when not moving), with humanoid bodies, a tail, and claws on the hands and feet. they have cat heads, and 4 small to medium breasts. while i understand that cats don't typically have breasts unless pregnant or nursing, humans do, so the compromise would be to have permanent breasts, but make them slightly on the small side. no Top-Hairs, but some would have a mane, or a strip of long fur down the back, that would typically be a few shades darker than the rest of the fur. as for clothing, little to none. catfolk native to colder climates simply grow heavier fur than those in warmer climates, so only adventuring catfolk and hairless breeds would ever need significant amounts of clothing.

[Zombulian]

well, don't have a picture, but i've always pictured catfolk as being (mostly) bipedal (walk on two legs, run on two or four, crouch when not moving), with humanoid bodies, a tail, and claws on the hands and feet. they have cat heads, and 4 small to medium breasts. while i understand that cats don't typically have breasts unless pregnant or nursing, humans do, so the compromise would be to have permanent breasts, but make them slightly on the small side. no Top-Hairs, but some would have a mane, or a strip of long fur down the back, that would typically be a few shades darker than the rest of the fur. as for clothing, little to none. catfolk native to colder climates simply grow heavier fur than those in warmer climates, so only adventuring catfolk and hairless breeds would ever need significant amounts of clothing.

Dear GOD that would be terrifying.
:smalleek:

[Lord Torath]

I guess just a bipedal version of their animal counterpart, but with hands and opposable thumbs. Ideally I wouldn't want boobs on the female version, just because it's kind of stupid and serves no purpose other than to appeal to some nerd's fantasy.

http://wizards.com/dnd/images/art_preview/20080423_114844_456vbn_0.jpg

Are Rakshasa supposed to have their hands on the wrong arms? This guy's got his right hand on his left arm, and vice-versa.

[Zombulian]

Are Rakshasa supposed to have their hands on the wrong arms? This guy's got his right hand on his left arm, and vice-versa.

Yea that's one of their telling features.

[Rallicus]

Are Rakshasa supposed to have their hands on the wrong arms? This guy's got his right hand on his left arm, and vice-versa.

Sort of.

From Wikipedia: "Their hands also look disturbing to most humans, as their palms are where the back of the hands would be in humans."

[Hanuman]

Oh you're right, they are humanoids... I was thinking Gnolls must be mHumans but nope, they are humanoid as well.

What exactly is the difference between Humanoid and mHumanoid anyway? Extra limbs + DV?

[Solaris]

Oh you're right, they are humanoids... I was thinking Gnolls must be mHumans but nope, they are humanoid as well.

What exactly is the difference between Humanoid and mHumanoid anyway? Extra limbs + DV?

Pfft, consistency in D&D.

[lunar2]

Dear GOD that would be terrifying.
:smalleek:

well, there are hairless cats, so why not hairless catfolk? the main difference is just that they'd wear more clothes.

[Zombulian]

well, there are hairless cats, so why not hairless catfolk? the main difference is just that they'd wear more clothes.

Well hairless cats are terrifying, so a person-sized hairless cat would be kinda horrifying.

[Lord Raziere]

Well hairless cats are terrifying, so a person-sized hairless cat would be kinda horrifying.

I'm pretty sure such Catfolk would say the same for hairless baboons. :smalltongue:

[Zombulian]

I'm pretty sure such Catfolk would say the same for hairless baboons. :smalltongue:

I'm sure a hairless baboon would be terrifying as well. The only reason they are terrifying to me is because the norm for cats and baboons in my mind are with fur. A hairless chimp may not seem as disturbing to me because a large portion of them is hairless.

[Lord Raziere]

Wow. you either so missed the point of that, or you don't know that humans DNA only differs from baboons by only 2% :smalltongue: Hint, Hint.

[pres_man]

Has anyone posted ...
http://www.larryniven.net/kzin/images/kzin_seductress.jpg
Kzin? (http://www.larryniven.net/kzin/gallery.shtml)

[Grail]

Kzin?

That one on the right looks like he is wearing a watermelon hat.

[Admiral Squish]

Personally I'm a big fan of non-humanoids. I love to think about how things would be different with a different body, a different mind. Essentially, anything you could accomplish with makeup and costume hair is too tame for me, unless they have some other significant difference from humans in mind, or some strange ability.

[Hanuman]

Pfft, consistency in D&D.

dire = big + spikes

[Necroticplague]

dire = big + spikes

Which seems rather odd, considering that spikes only really serve a purpose on smaller prey animals so that they don't look good to eat/kill whatever eats them. Hunters, like wolfs, have no real reason to grow spikes as they get bigger.

[DigoDragon]

That one on the right looks like he is wearing a watermelon hat.

The best defense is a good offense snack?


The majority of catfolk write-ups that I see out there put the cat advantage at either strength or agility. Has anyone a fav catfolk depiction that gives them some advantage that's outside this norm?

Example, in my D&D campaign, one of the races is cat-like, but their advantages are centered around intelligence and crafting, making them the best known tinkerers and inventors. Since the world is still heavily relying on magic, such science is generally laughed at (especially if it backfires).
Artwise, this is how I draw them (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/353/5/8/an_end_to_wars_by_digoraccoon-d3580yl.jpg).

[Yora]

http://oddanimals.com/images/lime-cat.jpg

Did I explain the joke? :smallredface:

[ShadowFighter15]

I forgot about this image I found on Deviant Art ages ago - it's of a Shifter airship captain but the design could work for any sort of humanoid feline, like a rakshasa-spawn tiefling. That and she has one badass coat.:smallamused:

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs31/f/2008/223/3/f/Shifter_Sketches_by_JRinaldi.jpg

Deviant Art Page (http://jrinaldi.deviantart.com/art/Shifter-Sketches-94475786)



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Smeghead/1-13l.jpg

Cat: Uh-oh; better make myself look big!

[hamishspence]

Which seems rather odd, considering that spikes only really serve a purpose on smaller prey animals so that they don't look good to eat/kill whatever eats them. Hunters, like wolfs, have no real reason to grow spikes as they get bigger.

This is D&D. Here, there's Always A Bigger Fish, and everything, even hunters, can expect to be preyed on by things like dragons.

[vegetalss4]

Wow. you either so missed the point of that, or you don't know that humans DNA only differs from baboons by only 2% :smalltongue: Hint, Hint.

It's 9%.
Also we mainly use different parts of the DNA so it is some very significant 9%.
Not that Cat-folk and actual Cats would be likely to be closer in relation.

[Zombulian]

Wow. you either so missed the point of that, or you don't know that humans DNA only differs from baboons by only 2% :smalltongue: Hint, Hint.

It was more I chose to ignore your point because it was dumb.

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/23/129087884818567868.jpg

[Lord Raziere]

It was more I chose to ignore your point because it was dumb.



I am in awe of your clear mastery of manners and politeness, to receive such high praise accompanied by a fox sticking out its tongue, I am SO HONORED.
and your various points and evidence against my my own, clearly this is a well thought out argument that persuades me to change my ways forever good sir, truly there has never been a longer, more complex and intelligent argument against my own, you outdo yourself sir, bravo….brav-O…*slow, sarcastic clapping*

[Larkas]

I can't believe this hasn't been brought up. THESE are the catfolk I grew up with:

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=188204

And this girl is the one to blame for all the sexualized cat girls:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110915133217/thundercats/images/4/41/Thumbnail.jpg

She carries her own pole, for crying out loud!

Personally, I also like their new look:

http://georgibomb.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/thundercats3.jpg

And she looks even better:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110827140614/thundercats/images/thumb/e/ed/Cheetara_4311.JPG/413px-Cheetara_4311.JPG

Now, on topic, while I see the logic of anthro animals being statted as Monstrous Humanoids, that is not actually what happens in the game. Most anthros are Humanoids, such as Lizardfolk, Troglodyte, Gnolls, etc. Monstrous Humanoids are a category reserved for Humanoids with bizarre powers or making, such as the Medusa, Centaurs, Minotaurs and Goliaths. They are to Humanoids what Magical Beasts are to Animals. So a bipedal tiger should be as much a Humanoid as an almost-human girl with cat ears.

From the topic, I specially liked these pieces of art:

http://fc06.deviantart.net/images/i/2003/46/1/8/Spirit_Hunter.jpg

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/4cxbd.jpg

But I also like less "feral" catfolk, like the one from Bestiary 3 (http://www.rolroyce.com/img/DDP/Razas/FelidoPF.jpg). They CERTAINLY wouldn't be the same race, though. Even among the ferals, a "house-catfolk" would certainly not be the same as a "tigerfolk". Think Human/Elven dichotomy.

Lastly, a contribution:

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/241/1/e/white_tiger_by_ladylionink-d48aju6.jpg

Not particularly well done, but I like the Indian thematic.

[Crazyfailure13]

This is my ideal Catfolk:
http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~tome/hack/mia01.JPG

[Lord Raziere]

Uuuuh…..thats a rabbitfolk :smallconfused:

[Doorhandle]

I can't believe this hasn't been brought up. THESE are the catfolk I grew up with:

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=188204

And this girl is the one to blame for all the sexualized cat girls:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110915133217/thundercats/images/4/41/Thumbnail.jpg

She carries her own pole, for crying out loud!

Personally, I also like their new look:

http://georgibomb.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/thundercats3.jpg

And she looks even better:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110827140614/thundercats/images/thumb/e/ed/Cheetara_4311.JPG/413px-Cheetara_4311.JPG

Now, on topic, while I see the logic of anthro animals being statted as Monstrous Humanoids, that is not actually what happens in the game. Most anthros are Humanoids, such as Lizardfolk, Troglodyte, Gnolls, etc. Monstrous Humanoids are a category reserved for Humanoids with bizarre powers or making, such as the Medusa, Centaurs, Minotaurs and Goliaths. They are to Humanoids what Magical Beasts are to Animals. So a bipedal tiger should be as much a Humanoid as an almost-human girl with cat ears.

From the topic, I specially liked these pieces of art:

http://fc06.deviantart.net/images/i/2003/46/1/8/Spirit_Hunter.jpg

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv111/dsmiles76/4cxbd.jpg

But I also like less "feral" catfolk, like the one from Bestiary 3 (http://www.rolroyce.com/img/DDP/Razas/FelidoPF.jpg). They CERTAINLY wouldn't be the same race, though. Even among the ferals, a "house-catfolk" would certainly not be the same as a "tigerfolk". Think Human/Elven dichotomy.

Lastly, a contribution:

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/241/1/e/white_tiger_by_ladylionink-d48aju6.jpg

Not particularly well done, but I like the Indian thematic.
With you on the bestiary 3 one.

[RedWarlock]

I usually go for heavier-built catfolk, more based on lions and tigers than housecats or cheetahs. It really depends on what concept of race they fit, since the usual slim type is too much like an elf plus, it's all dex, high senses, maybe some sneakyness, but generally in the same conceptual space as woodsy elves. Pushing towards a heavier build is less used space, depending on if orcs are playable, since they share the same big feral brute warrior type (aka proud warrior race), often.

In my own custom setting, my orcs actually are catfolk of the big-cat variety, though more akin to thundercats in how they resemble them (slitted pupils, pointed ears, minor claws, minor fur and/or skin markings, flat feet) plus traditional orcish lower-jaw tusks, (though the Berserker class they favor make the big-cat nature express more fully, akin to PF racial favored class benefits). In-setting, they used to worship a CG lioness sun-goddess, before she was murdered and her portfolio taken by her former concubine-husband, Gruumsh (originally a tiger-god), who since he lost an eye when it happened has been descending into evil (currently on the CN-leaning-on-CE range), though either as a result of seeking revenge for her murder, or as a result of having committed it, nobody is sure which.

[Larkas]

Another good one:

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/200/d/8/alpha_luna_by_felsus-d3hu4px.jpg
(I think she's supposed to be a wolf girl, though... Anyways, it is well drawn and colored enough to warrant an honorable mention.)

@RedWarlock: That is indeed a problem. When I do use catfolk in a game, they are from a completely different part of the world, and don't usually see the "regular" races all the time. The niche for dexterous and graceful creatures is generally taken by the elves, it doesn't make much sense to have two races doing the same thing. Fluff can do a lot in respect to that, though: Bestiary 3's catfolk could easily be the dexterous and graceful characters normally seen (or yet, unseen) in cities robbing people's houses, while elves could still live in the woods and be graceful there. It could work, it's just something I never used.

I liked your take on orcs/strong catfolk, though.

[Amiel]

Hands down (IMO), this is the most ideal catfolk;
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/jophielalicia/Art/Catlord.jpg

[Larkas]

Hands down (IMO), this is the most ideal catfolk;
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/jophielalicia/Art/Catlord.jpg

Beautiful piece, but all I see is an elf :smallbiggrin: Where is it from, anyways? The style is very reminiscent of Planescape's art, which is an auto-win in my book.

[horngeek]

I personally prefer my catfolk on the more humanlikeside but I can understand why you might want to avoid it.

Yeah, my ideal catfolk varies between japanese-style neko (human, but with cat ears and tail. Might have a cat's flexibility, though), and-


I don't get what half of you are talking about, so here's a picture of the catfolk I'm playing in my current campaign.

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/056/9/1/022510__eve_blade_commission_by_crybringer.jpg

This is my other 'like it'. Default form (I'll get to that a bit later) is humanlike, with cat ears and a cat tail, and a lot more fur than a human. In fact, I might use that exact picture for a character portrait sometime...

As for why I said 'default'- in the case of something like D&D 4e Shifters, their shifted/combat form is a lot closer to a cat, especially in the face area.

[Gnorman]

Beautiful piece, but all I see is an elf :smallbiggrin: Where is it from, anyways? The style is very reminiscent of Planescape's art, which is an auto-win in my book.

That's because it is FROM Planescape.

[Larkas]

That's because it is FROM Planescape.

Ooooooh, now it all makes sense. Which book, if you don't mind me asking?

[Gnorman]

Ooooooh, now it all makes sense. Which book, if you don't mind me asking?

Monstrous Compendium Appendix I, if memory serves.

[Yora]

It's a cat lord, some kind of animal spirit.

[Sutremaine]

And she looks even better:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110827140614/thundercats/images/thumb/e/ed/Cheetara_4311.JPG/413px-Cheetara_4311.JPG
She should get together with this (http://images.wikia.com/bleach/en/images/9/9a/Grimmjow_Resurreccion.jpg) guy. They could discuss outrageous fashions and swap haircare tips.

Back on topic, I prefer catfolk to look mostly like the Rakshasa picture, having entirely catlike faces and just enough changes to their body structure to stand upright. I also prefer it when both sexes look roughly similar. Yes, there can be that degree of dimorphism in individuals. It shouldn't apply to the whole species. It'd be like all male humans looking like Danny Trejo and all female humans looking like Summer Glau.

[dsmiles]

all female humans looking like Summer Glau.I could live with that. :smallwink:

[Chambers]

When I think Catfolk, I think this.
Edit: Image won't be linked. Finding another.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l241/RC-Kelu/1191726873265.jpg

I don't like catfolk in my D&D games, probably because of how I think of them. Other people do, though, and that's fine for their games.

I suppose my ideal catfolk would be the Shifter race. They're bestial humanoids that, to me, are more than "I'm a cat-person!", and I think they fit better in the game (at least my vision of the game).

[Lord Torath]

The majority of catfolk write-ups that I see out there put the cat advantage at either strength or agility. Has anyone a fav catfolk depiction that gives them some advantage that's outside this norm?
Palladium's Robotech II: The Sentinels had Cat People who were psychic. The Male Garudens (sp) had different powers available to them than the Females, and the females were more likely to fly into a murderous rage. But I don't recall if they were any stronger or more agile than humans. I do remember that they couldn't breathe oxygen, and had to always wear a breather.

Here's some fan art (http://www.ottershome.net/art/javril.gif)

[Lord Torath]

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