[3.5] Warforged Mom

[Biotroll]

Hello playground!
After long time I'm going to play again and I need your help with making a build. We are going to play in Eberron settings so I thought I give a try to warfoged when wild idea appeared.
I want to play a warforged with female personality who is fascinated by humans and their children and want to become the same as them. So she gets her own child (be it animal or construct or even plant :smalltongue:) she takes care of. But I also want to be somehow useful, so I seek the way to make my baby into a beast when situation arise.
Sources I can use are: SRD + completes + eberron setings related stuff + ToB. No psionics. We will start at lvl4 and should finish our campaign around level 15 or so. We will probably be rolling for stats (duh), one flaw and one trait allowed.
Honestly I don't know where to start with this build, I just had the idea of it and I hope somebody here could point me to some nice things as I haven't really read through all the books.
So can you help me playground? :smallbiggrin:

[VGLordR2]

You could have her take a class that grants either an animal companion or a familiar.

[Slipperychicken]

Warforged newborn, just popped out of the forge. It's stats are just like a regular warforged, only its mind is a childs. Take leadership. It's a Cohort now. Your followers are fully-formed warforged "babies". Your babies are now an army

Take that one online feat that gives you an animal companion (Wild Cohort, I think), or Obtain Familiar. That's your "baby". If you take Obtain Familiar, get a Beguiler Rat; those things are adorable, intelligent, and have continuous True Seeing.

[Waker]

Familiar: Sorcerer, Wizard, Hexblade or any other Arcane class combined with Obtain Familiar.
Animal Companion: Druid or Ranger. Or any character and take the Wild Cohort feat.
Homunculus: Artificer.
You might also be interested in Effigy Master (CArc).

[Arcanist]

You could have her take a class that grants either an animal companion or a familiar.

Well, You could just backstory fluff you way into saying that your a pregnant warforged Incarnum user (Incarnum is fluffed as using the souls of the born and the unborn for Necarnum)

However due to your inability to give birth you are constantly treated as pregnant... and thus you quest for a way to gain a human form so that you may finally free the soul that inhabits your form... Magic cannot free you and you do not wish to curse the child with flesh of iron... So you endlessly work towards gaining a human form...

You might adopt the Reforged class as a sign that you are working towards attaining humanity and have your DM change the capstone to that you finally gain the Incarnate Construct template (effectively treating the Reforged class as a simple one level dip) :smallsmile:

I honestly find the idea of a Warforged Mother... calming... I'm gonna go call my Mom now...

[Ravens_cry]

Adoption is an option.
It could even be a Warforged Scout who has the mindset of a child, and you both agree to take on the roll of Mother and Child.

[Invader]

You can look at the child template http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Child_%283.5e_Template%29

Or one of my favorite RP companions was a wyrmling or very young dragon. Not terribly over powered but walking around with a baby dragon can be so much RP fun if done correctly.

Plus if you're playing the mom angle, the dragon could always be trying to run off into a fight and you're always preoccupied with trying to protect it.

If your DM allows it that is.

[hoverfrog]

This would make a wonderful villain. A warforged abducting children through some misguided attempt to be more human herself The sort of villain that the PCs might have some sympathy for but still need to take down.

[Roguenewb]

This would make a wonderful villain. A warforged abducting children through some misguided attempt to be more human herself The sort of villain that the PCs might have some sympathy for but still need to take down.

It really would. Especially if she has caster levels and uses Illusions to kill the child's parents and then escort the child away. And, of course, she doesn't understand the needs of eating and sleeping and she wears the children to death. This tension is enough to break a good ole Warforged brain, and now she's more than a little unhinged.

[Crasical]

You can look at the child template http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Child_%283.5e_Template%29

Oh no, It's DanDwiki! :smalltongue:

[Invader]

Oh no, It's DanDwiki! :smalltongue:

:smallredface: Yeah I know but its not a terrible template and it fits lol

[Ravens_cry]

Oh no, It's DanDwiki! :smalltongue:
Pathfinder has its own version in the Young template (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/simple-template-young-cr-1), and frankly the Pathfinder version looks less messy.

[Frosty]

Warforged Druid for fun and profit. Robots in disguise!

[Arcanist]

Warforged Druid for fun and profit. Robots in disguise!

Transformers... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AIFoBRIny0)

[Biotroll]

Thanks for the ideas everyone. I like the one with Incarnum involved. :smalltongue: Incarnum won't fly at table this time though, so I will just have to somehow get it in backstory. There shouldn't be a problem with DM.

Anyway, since our party is going to be heavy melee (half-orc crusader, half-elf swordsage, human rogue, human cleric and me), I decided to go for bard. I would like to use spells, but I would like to take Reforged PrC too, wich means if I want some casting I will have to stick with Sublime Chord.

So, any advice on nice feats for this character? And if you know some nice beast for wild cohort, it would be great. I'm thinking of wolf so far because of trip and tracking by scent. Stats rolling went better then expected: 17, 16, 14, 13, 12, 12, so if numbers are needed, here they are.

EDIT: Just wild thought: Is there way to get Shambling Mound as companion? :smallbiggrin:

[Waker]

As far as I'm aware there is no way to get a Shambling Mound as a pet, though Druids can get a Plant Companion. It's written in Dragon 357. You take a base plant (stats listed in magazine) and grant it abilities as you level up.
If you are interested in a plant-based Warforged, Landforged Walker from Secrets of Xen'drik might also interest you.

[danzibr]

Adoption is an option.
It could even be a Warforged Scout who has the mindset of a child, and you both agree to take on the roll of Mother and Child.
I was also going to suggest Warforged Scout.

Do you want your baby to grow up? For my wife, we did a bit of homebrew and came up with her getting an animal companion (via Wild Cohort). She needed to be level 4 to actually get it and the campaign started at 1. Fortunately, it had 4 racial HD, so I reverse engineered it and it gained a level when she did (actually, mighta been 3). Doesn't exactly work for you since you're starting higher, but hey, it's an idea.

[Andorax]

I still think Artificer is your best route. Go with crafting Homunculi (you can have multiples of them, and can improve/upgrade them).

You'll have better synergy (fluff and mechanical) with your ability to repair and enhance yourself, create, repair, upgrade and enhance your children, etc.


If you have the source, another option to consider is out of Pathfinder #7: Edge of Anarchy. The Soulbound Doll is a type of sentient construct that possesses a fragment of a soul bound to it upon creation, and a partially-neutral alignment (the other part depending on the soul donor). Would make for very fitting (or creepy) "children".

[Arcanist]

Thanks for the ideas everyone. I like the one with Incarnum involved. :smalltongue: Incarnum won't fly at table this time though, so I will just have to somehow get it in backstory. There shouldn't be a problem with DM.

No problem, Incarnum is possible to use even if your not an Incarnate user (Just like Binder and I think Truenaming) Just ask your DM if you can take feats around it (Or take levels in Chameleon so you can change from an Incarnum user to a Binder to a Maneuver user to a True Namer)



Anyway, since our party is going to be heavy melee (half-orc crusader, half-elf swordsage, human rogue, human cleric and me), I decided to go for bard. I would like to use spells, but I would like to take Reforged PrC too, wich means if I want some casting I will have to stick with Sublime Chord.

Chameleon is pretty much Bard with better class features... Sounds like you are going to be surrounded by Humans that could make for some seriously great RP'ing if handled properly (Perhaps be jealous of there ability to reproduce)

Ah damn... I just realized something after I typed all that Chameleon crap :smallannoyed: ... Your a Warforged... Yeah, go Bard Sublime Chord :smallamused:


So, any advice on nice feats for this character? And if you know some nice beast for wild cohort, it would be great. I'm thinking of wolf so far because of trip and tracking by scent. Stats rolling went better then expected: 17, 16, 14, 13, 12, 12, so if numbers are needed, here they are.

I'm against the whole Wild Cohort idea because... Well have you ever seen a person actually treat a Dog like a human child? Yeah it freaks me the hell out :smallannoyed:

So far the way I'm looking at your character is Warforged Incarnate Construct Bard10/ Reforged3 /Sublime Chord4 Allowing you to cast 6th level spells... Hmm... Needs improvement... :smallconfused:

[nedz]

With 7 levels of Bard you would qualify for the Obtain Familiar feat [CArc]

[Biotroll]

Hi all again. Just wanted to thank you all for the ideas. :smallsmile:

We started playing some time ago and because DM was extra nice to me, reforged prestidge class now advances casting. :smalltongue: I'm now lvl6 wf bard and my final plan is to go: bard7/virtuoso3/sublime chord1/reforged 3/virtuoso3 which will get me lvl8 spells at my final level. Not the best thing around, but as only arcane caster in group, it just have to be enough. Also, reforged 3 will now give me incarnate construct template (though it will cost me some gold to do so) so good news here too.

I decided to go with wild cohort, and got my wolf who now serves as guard dog to our party (and keeps listening to me during the long nights when party rests and we are guarding them). I also got a pot with petunias to which I talk to too. :smallbiggrin: (Don't know why I brought it, but it seemed like good idea at time).

So all goes well after all.:smallsmile: Thank you again (and now I can let this thread rot without feeling of leaving something unfinished).

[Slipperychicken]

I decided to go with wild cohort, and got my wolf who now serves as guard dog to our party (and keeps listening to me during the long nights when party rests and we are guarding them). I also got a pot with petunias to which I talk to too. :smallbiggrin: (Don't know why I brought it, but it seemed like good idea at time).

So all goes well after all.:smallsmile: Thank you again (and now I can let this thread rot without feeling of leaving something unfinished).

Is that a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference? Those things can think, you know.

[Biotroll]

Is that a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference? Those things can think, you know.

Well, so far only DM seems to get it. :smalltongue: I wonder what will come out of it in the end.:smallbiggrin: Maybe I'll get scroll of awaken (and boost my umd) later in game.