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Kitzo
2012-06-16, 03:03 PM
Hey, currently in a game my Troll has his buddies and I wanted to ask for some help building them, only nine levels to play with so it's a decent challenge, I have been trying to think of how I can make my cleric troll roll and my rouge troll, I'm currently thinking of a hoard theif, and shadow dancer mix, but I can't think of anything for these half dragon brutes besides the basics, I'm using the troll leveling bracket from SS and it limits me but makes them a tad tougher, and all of them are currently immune to negative levels and energy and ability damage/drain off of soul fire armor, could I get some help with these evil trolls? My other trolls are currently a black guard, necromancer, and a purple dragon knight adapted to shadow for the only half shadow dragon troll, I'd like all of my trolls to have half dragon but it's not needed if you can squeeze in the immunities to fire and acid, thanks in advance, nothing but book of nine swords is banned and the loth touched template because of a evil player we had, once again, thanks in advance!

moritheil
2012-06-16, 03:21 PM
Hey, currently in a game my Troll has his buddies and I wanted to ask for some help building them, only nine levels to play with so it's a decent challenge . . .

I'd like all of my trolls to have half dragon but it's not needed if you can squeeze in the immunities to fire and acid, thanks in advance, nothing but book of nine swords is banned and the loth touched template because of a evil player we had, once again, thanks in advance!

Trolls have 6 racial HD and LA+5 so they start at ECL 11. Do you mean this is a level 20 game? Being absolutely clear about that kind of thing will get you more responses.

I really don't even think immunity to fire and acid ought to be on your shopping list. Sure, regeneration is nice, but at level 20 a wizard or cleric isn't going to have to bother figuring out what you're immune to - you'll be hit with Plane Shift or Polymorph Any Object or twinned Enervation, or something. You mentioned Soulfire armor, and that's a start, but your main problem is abysmal saves, with no Diamond Mind to get around them, and a lack of any real natural defenses against combat options at this level.

Kitzo
2012-06-16, 11:07 PM
Well, the trolls that I want help with are Npc's... It's all about flavor here for y character and I enjoy the fact that I dropped 14ish levels and my saves are favorable even to troll, my whole build is centered upon being a undying creature, my goal is to become immune to everything, got my food taken care of, got my half dragon bought off, it's all or the giggles because I am currently the only character that makes my dm think of how to kill him, and my troll is going epic, and they are just to be part of the story for building, they don't need to be immune it was just for flavor, and save arn't a problem for a character that can't be targeted by single target spells via magic items... My will is going sky high from being forced to multi class to get into hide carved dragon for even more flavor, it ok to be silly, so long a it does something... My troll hits harder than a train currently having dealt over 800 damage on a Melee attack against a lich... It's all for flavor and I cant think of any thing flavorful for the cleric and rogue :) All I want is help for my silly npc's.*

Fable Wright
2012-06-16, 11:48 PM
The only logical evolution of this goal (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101587).

Urpriest
2012-06-17, 12:51 PM
If they're NPCs, then remember non-associated class levels. You can get three extra levels if six are something that a troll wouldn't obviously be good at, like a caster.

Morph Bark
2012-06-17, 12:57 PM
Feel free to become immune to fire, I still got my Searing Spells.