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AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-18, 11:19 PM
All,

First time poster, long time lurker. . .:smallcool:

So, my Lvl 7 Wiz5/MasterSpecialist 2, with a Abjuration specialization, but a prediliction for fire evocations, is likely to come into a substantial chunk of change in the very near future. He's PrCing into Initiate of the 7fold Veil next level. I'm looking for equipment suggestions. He currently is fairly gear poor and spell rich. Assuming everything progresses like it should, he's about to get 83,333 gp. Honestly I'm at a loss to spend it, and figured the GITP community might have some suggestions. Currently the only really piece of gear he's got is the Boots of Big Stepping, and a Handy Haversack. This is what I've got thus far picked out in order of desirability [in case the party doesn't get the appraised amount for the collector's pieces]

Headband of Intellect +6 36,000 gp (Raises from 21 to 27)
Boccob's Blessed book: (12,500 gp)
Scroll: Wall of Fire 700gp
Scroll: Fly 375 GP
Scroll: Mirror Image 150 gp
Scroll: Greater Invis, 700GP
Light Warhorse 150gp
Scroll: Polymorph 700gp
Scroll: Black Tentacles 700 GP
Heward's Fortifying Bedroll 3,000 gp
Rod of Ropes 4,000 gp
Scroll: Minor Creation 700 GP
Scroll: Heart of Earth: 1050 gp
Ring of Featherfall 2200gp
Scroll: Phantom Steed 375gp
Artificer's Monocle 1500gp
Eyes of the eagle 2500gp
Hand of the Mage 900 gp (See creative uses of cantrips)
Scroll: Haste 375 gp

Even with this profligate use of funds, I've still got 15208gp to spend. Suggestions?

If there's really fantastic gear worth giving up chunks of the above, I'll consider it. Also, if you have a suggestion for reordering the list for priority, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks all,





I'll also take

Biffoniacus_Furiou
2012-06-18, 11:51 PM
A wizard can also add a spell to her book whenever she encounters one on a magic scroll or in another wizard’s spellbook... In most cases, wizards charge a fee for the privilege of copying spells from their spellbooks. This fee is usually equal to the spell’s level × 50 gp. (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#headbandofIntellect)

Never buy scrolls unless you absolutely have to. The designers intended for wizards to acquire new spells for the above cost, not by overpaying for scrolls. You could even role-play out getting spells for free by making an equal trade to a neighborly wizard of one of your spells for one of his. You could even set up a mutually beneficial spell-sharing network that involves a circle of wizards scribing their chosen spell on a few pages separate from their spellbook, and then rotating those pages to a new person each day until everyone has learned each spell.



Get a Circlet of Rapid Casting (MIC), it's 15k gp and you definitely won't regret it. You can get an Enhancement bonus to Intelligence added onto any head-slot item for the same cost as buying a separate Headband of Intellect per MIC p234.

Why don't you have any (lesser) metamagic rods on that list?

killianh
2012-06-19, 12:59 AM
why not save up your money for something like vest of the archmagi at 200000gp?

Little Brother
2012-06-19, 01:55 AM
Nice guy method: Ioun Stone(Orange Prism, IIRC, +1CL), that one ring that boosts CL, and the like. Nifty things. Just equip yourself as you would a higher-level version of yourself. Scrolls are bad, though. You're a wizard, you can cast them anyways.

Mean guy: Don't use scrolls. Use 1-use Wondrous Items. The only ones you should be buying at this point are the stupid-good high-level spells(Simulacrum, Ice Assassin, CL 16+ Shapechange, Wish, etc), anyways.

Or, you could get a couple items(Multicharge, if cheaper) of Embrace/Shun, nab Southern Magician, Touchstone: Catalogues of Creation(DLCS sun domain), and DMM on whatever MM you want. Nightsticks are good, too. Alternatively, do you have Uncanny Forethought? If not, Shuffle to that and Versatile Caster. Fifth level spells are good.

Ice Assassin(One-use item) a Revered Elder Phaerimm or Black Ethergaunt, which can shuffle for you. You can set up a Simulacrum factory, too. You can pump out 17th level casters that way, thanks to the Ethergaunt having 16 HD. Hordes of Efreet, too. I also recommend an item of Genesis, just because having a demiplane is something every wizard should do. Seriously, giving that level of money to a low-level character is...Ugh, can break a MONK. Far too much you can do. WBL is the single most broken thing in the game. If you can't break the game into a million pieces, you aren't trying.

TuggyNE
2012-06-19, 04:14 AM
Rod of Ropes 4,000 gp
...
Ring of Featherfall 2200gp

I'm a little curious why you're considering these; the ring, in particular, seems like you're using an item to compensate for not preparing feather fall, but are you really that hard up for level slots?

Kerilstrasz
2012-06-19, 05:13 AM
You could get a collection of eternal wands(MIC)..
you can get Et.Wands with Spell Lvls 0-3 ...
they fire 2wice per day and recharge every day...
why prepare a M.armor every day "incase" you get into a fight and not free that slot for smthing else and have it on your wand 2wice per day each day ?
same goes for all other "i should have it prepared in case i need it" spells like detect magic, or mount or ... anything(?) :P

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 09:16 AM
A wizard can also add a spell to her book whenever she encounters one on a magic scroll or in another wizard’s spellbook... In most cases, wizards charge a fee for the privilege of copying spells from their spellbooks. This fee is usually equal to the spell’s level × 50 gp.[/URL]

. . .

Get a Circlet of Rapid Casting (MIC), it's 15k gp and you definitely won't regret it. You can get an Enhancement bonus to Intelligence added onto any head-slot item for the same cost as buying a separate Headband of Intellect per MIC p234.

Why don't you have any (lesser) metamagic rods on that list?

Excellent points. I some how missed the section in the MIC about adding enhancement bonuses onto other items like the Circlet. The circlet is really cool, within the budget, and something I could see the character purchasing. As far as spell costs, thus far the DM's been pretty focused on having new spells come through scrolls vs. other Arcane casters.(maybe as a balancing mechanism? We've got everything from a Tier 4 up to me at Tier 1 as far as PCs) I will use the SRD to negotiate with him though. I appreciate it!

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 09:30 AM
Nice guy method: Ioun Stone(Orange Prism, IIRC, +1CL), that one ring that boosts CL, and the like. Nifty things. Just equip yourself as you would a higher-level version of yourself. Scrolls are bad, though. You're a wizard, you can cast them anyways.


I'm leaving off the 'mean' (read awesome), because frankly I am already concerned about killing the party if the DM feels he needs to toss something CR ungodly to counter my wizard. Does the +1CL increase also the spells known, or merely the DCs? Apologies for the dumb question, but I'm away from books.

If it's spells known, absolutely it's worth chopping off another 15k of the items I'm interested in (any suggestions?)

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 09:35 AM
I'm a little curious why you're considering these; the ring, in particular, seems like you're using an item to compensate for not preparing feather fall, but are you really that hard up for level slots?

The only reason I was thinking about the ring was so if I got dispelled while I was flying, I wouldn't have to burn the action to cast featherfall when I could be abjuring, evocating or transmuting.

The Rod of Ropes was added merely because it's a heck of an item for relatively cheap, and I've always wanted to play with it. If you've got suggestions for what to do with the 4k instead, let me know

Little Brother
2012-06-19, 09:40 AM
I'm leaving off the 'mean' (read awesome), because frankly I am already concerned about killing the party if the DM feels he needs to toss something CR ungodly to counter my wizard. Does the +1CL increase also the spells known, or merely the DCs? Apologies for the dumb question, but I'm away from books. Thank you. Sadly, no. No new spells because of the Ioun stone.

Is your build nailed down?

And, actually I lied. You do want scrolls(Cuz they're cheap), IF you have a simulacrum Lilitu/Ethergaunts(Using the factory method).

If it's spells known, absolutely it's worth chopping off another 15k of the items I'm interested in (any suggestions?)Cut the scrolls, Ring of Featherfall, and basically everything but the Book and the +6 int item. All the others aren't really worth it

Eldariel
2012-06-19, 09:42 AM
I'm leaving off the 'mean' (read awesome), because frankly I am already concerned about killing the party if the DM feels he needs to toss something CR ungodly to counter my wizard. Does the +1CL increase also the spells known, or merely the DCs? Apologies for the dumb question, but I'm away from books.

If it's spells known, absolutely it's worth chopping off another 15k of the items I'm interested in (any suggestions?)

Neither. It increases your caster level; that is, your effective level for all the level-based variables of your spells (same as Master Specialist's ability to increase caster level of your spells from the specialized school really).

That is, any effects in the spell (Dispel check, grapple-bonus for Black Tentacles, damage dice, HD cap for Polymorph, etc.), distance, number of targets and such are counted as for a Wizard of one level higher, and they're harder to dispel (again, +1 to difficulty class of dispelling).


I'd probably get two Fortifying Bedrolls myself; those are just bloody convenient. Need two due to the 48h cooldown.

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 09:44 AM
You could get a collection of eternal wands(MIC)..
you can get Et.Wands with Spell Lvls 0-3 ...
they fire 2wice per day and recharge every day...
why prepare a M.armor every day "incase" you get into a fight and not free that slot for smthing else and have it on your wand 2wice per day each day ?
same goes for all other "i should have it prepared in case i need it" spells like detect magic, or mount or ... anything(?) :P

Wands are cheap. . . Mage armor (got it), any other eternal wands? I've read the Dictum Mortuum handbook. I do have a refluffed raven familiar (extremely minor fire imp with no benefit over what the raven gives) so I've got a familiar who can UMD.

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 09:47 AM
Thank you. Sadly, no. No new spells because of the Ioun stone.

Is your build nailed down?

And, actually I lied. You do want scrolls(Cuz they're cheap), IF you have a simulacrum Lilitu/Ethergaunts(Using the factory method).
Cut the scrolls, Ring of Featherfall, and basically everything but the Book and the +6 int item. All the others aren't really worth it

The build is currently being played, so it's pretty nailed down unless there's any particular reason not to take Initiate of the 7fold Veil next level. Respectfully, I'm going to avoid the potential for DMG to the head by not simulacraing at ECL 7. I do appreciate the optimizing advice however (I'm an optimizer at heart)

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 09:49 AM
Neither. It increases your caster level; that is, your effective level for all the level-based variables of your spells (same as Master Specialist's ability to increase caster level of your spells from the specialized school really).

That is, any effects in the spell (Dispel check, grapple-bonus for Black Tentacles, damage dice, HD cap for Polymorph, etc.), distance, number of targets and such are counted as for a Wizard of one level higher, and they're harder to dispel (again, +1 to difficulty class of dispelling).


I'd probably get two Fortifying Bedrolls myself; those are just bloody convenient. Need two due to the 48h cooldown.

Hmmm. . . I think that's a worthy cause. . . what would you chop to get the additional 15k?

Eldariel
2012-06-19, 09:49 AM
The build is currently being played, so it's pretty nailed down unless there's any particular reason not to take Initiate of the 7fold Veil next level. Respectfully, I'm going to avoid the potential for DMG to the head by not simulacraing at ECL 7. I do appreciate the optimizing advice however (I'm an optimizer at heart)

Is there a reason you're Wizard 5/Master Specialist 2 instead of Wizard 3/Master Specialist 4? 'cause I always use the latter for Initiate builds. Are you perchance running Spontaneous Divination, or?

Kazyan
2012-06-19, 09:49 AM
I'm leaving off the 'mean' (read awesome), because frankly I am already concerned about killing the party if the DM feels he needs to toss something CR ungodly to counter my wizard. Does the +1CL increase also the spells known, or merely the DCs? Apologies for the dumb question, but I'm away from books.

No DC or spells; just the stuff in spell descriptons that are dependent on your level.

If you're asking this question, you're probably in a group that would be upturned by LB's level of optimization, so don't start a Solar Simulacrum Simulacrum factory run by Solar Simulacra.

Edit: Swordsages, man.

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 09:52 AM
Is there a reason you're Wizard 5/Master Specialist 2 instead of Wizard 3/Master Specialist 4? 'cause I always use the latter for Initiate builds. Are you perchance running Spontaneous Divination, or?

I'm a pretty new player, and didn't get my optimization-fu running until I was already wizard 5. I am unfamiliar with Spontaneous Divination. . . however upon looking it up, that would've been awesome, but I took Extend metamagic instead.

Maybe next time.

Eldariel
2012-06-19, 09:54 AM
Hmmm. . . I think that's a worthy cause. . . what would you chop to get the additional 15k?

The Ring and the Rod can fly. That's 6.6k. Eyes of the Eagle shouldn't be necessary, that's 2.5k more. The rest has to come from your Headband (you could degrade to +4 Headband) or Blessed Book.

Might be you'd want to wait on the Ioun Stone and just get Circlet of Rapid Casting instead though. Alternatively, go with +4 Headband and Ioun Stone; dropping the stuff that's highly unnecessary you can probably save up enough for the Circlet anyways. You really want a Circlet, btw. 3 Quickened level 2 spells daily is pretty awesome.

maysarahs
2012-06-19, 10:32 AM
I don't see any pearls of power on your list, and I'm sure to get at least a few of those on any wizard I play.

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 10:47 AM
The Ring and the Rod can fly. That's 6.6k. Eyes of the Eagle shouldn't be necessary, that's 2.5k more. The rest has to come from your Headband (you could degrade to +4 Headband) or Blessed Book.

Might be you'd want to wait on the Ioun Stone and just get Circlet of Rapid Casting instead though. Alternatively, go with +4 Headband and Ioun Stone; dropping the stuff that's highly unnecessary you can probably save up enough for the Circlet anyways. You really want a Circlet, btw. 3 Quickened level 2 spells daily is pretty awesome.

The circlet is happening, you're right on the awesomeness. So with a Headband+4 grafted onto the circlet, we're talking a savings of 5k. . . for roughly 20k to play with.

or should I go +6 grafted onto the circlet, burning the remainder of the free cash? It would eliminate any potentiality for wand purchases/pearls of power.

I normally have enough slots daily (particularly after the boost to intelligence).

Eldariel
2012-06-19, 10:52 AM
The circlet is happening, you're right on the awesomeness. So with a Headband+4 grafted onto the circlet, we're talking a savings of 5k. . . for roughly 20k to play with.

or should I go +6 grafted onto the circlet, burning the remainder of the free cash? It would eliminate any potentiality for wand purchases/pearls of power.

I normally have enough slots daily (particularly after the boost to intelligence).

All the small stuff like Fortifying Bedroll, Artificer's Monocle, Hand of the Magi, etc. are reasonably useful in the end. With two Fortifying Bedrolls you suddenly are operational for 23 hours a day. Monocle is something the party should buy together since you'll all be using it tho.

You could indeed go with...just about Headband, Circlet and Ioun Stone and call it a day but I'd rather cut some of those and use the cut parts to make the smaller purchases. And cutting on the Headband is the easiest. Though that'd save you trouble thinking what to get at least; you'd only have 2k to spend on trivialities at that point.

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 10:58 AM
I don't see any pearls of power on your list, and I'm sure to get at least a few of those on any wizard I play.

Pearls are awesome, but I rarely run out of spells. I'm not sure they're the most potent of the options.

I do like the Bedroll x2 idea posted above, and so the list as it currently stands is

Circlet of Rapid Casting + Headband+4= 31,000 gp (Raises from 21 to 25)[5k gp added to surplus]
Boccob's Blessed book: (12,500 gp)
Scroll: Wall of Fire 700gp
Scroll: Fly 375 GP
Scroll: Mirror Image 150 gp
Scroll: Greater Invis, 700GP
Light Warhorse 150gp
Scroll: Polymorph 700gp
Scroll: Black Tentacles 700 GP
Heward's Fortifying Bedroll x2 6,000 gp
Rod of Ropes 4,000 gp
Scroll: Minor Creation 700 GP
Scroll: Heart of Earth: 1050 gp
Ring of Featherfall 2200gp
Scroll: Phantom Steed 375gp
Artificer's Monocle 1500gp
Eyes of the eagle 2500gp
Hand of the Mage 900 gp (See creative uses of cantrips)
Scroll: Haste 375 gp

21208gp to spend.

Little Brother
2012-06-19, 11:00 AM
No DC or spells; just the stuff in spell descriptons that are dependent on your level.

If you're asking this question, you're probably in a group that would be upturned by LB's level of optimization, so don't start a Solar Simulacrum Simulacrum factory run by Solar Simulacra.

Edit: Swordsages, man.For the record? I prefer Mephits, Efreet, and Ethergaunts. That's just me, though. Ethergaunts can pump out other things, like Ice Assassins, Efreet are Efreet, and Mephits work indefinitely, in case the DM is enforcing XP or whatever for the simulacra.

I'm a pretty new player, and didn't get my optimization-fu running until I was already wizard 5. I am unfamiliar with Spontaneous Divination. . . however upon looking it up, that would've been awesome, but I took Extend metamagic instead.

Maybe next time.Rebuilding. I recommend it. PHBII is your friend.

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 11:04 AM
For the record? I prefer Mephits, Efreet, and Ethergaunts. That's just me, though. Ethergaunts can pump out other things, like Ice Assassins, Efreet are Efreet, and Mephits work indefinitely, in case the DM is enforcing XP or whatever for the simulacra.

You all are terrifying, in the best of all possible ways. :smallbiggrin:

Little Brother
2012-06-19, 11:11 AM
You all are terrifying, in the best of all possible ways. :smallbiggrin:Thank you. May I sig this?

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 11:14 AM
Absolutely!

Kazyan
2012-06-19, 11:28 AM
For the record? I prefer Mephits, Efreet, and Ethergaunts. That's just me, though. Ethergaunts can pump out other things, like Ice Assassins, Efreet are Efreet, and Mephits work indefinitely, in case the DM is enforcing XP or whatever for the simulacra.

Mnh, yes. Mind if I use a variant of your strategy? Long story short, I have a cheese-op game on hold where the CR 40+ BBEG just started killing gods or whatever and we failed to kill him with the resources of a metropolis, but what I /do/ have is 60,000+ gold and a ritual to time travel back a century.

Heh. Imagine his face when, suddenly, planetars, millions of them.

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 11:29 AM
So,

Still have 1/4 of the wealth to spend. I didn't expect quite the level of frugality on the boards here.

No Solar factories, no super shenanigans.

I'm keeping the scrolls in, just in case I can't find a willing arcane caster. Any other suggestions? For that matter, is the priority top to bottom how you all would work it?

Circlet of Rapid Casting + Headband+4= 31,000 gp (Raises from 21 to 25)[5k gp added to surplus]
Boccob's Blessed book: (12,500 gp)
Scroll: Wall of Fire 700gp
Scroll: Fly 375 GP
Scroll: Mirror Image 150 gp
Scroll: Greater Invis, 700GP
Light Warhorse 150gp
Scroll: Polymorph 700gp
Scroll: Black Tentacles 700 GP
Heward's Fortifying Bedroll x2 6,000 gp
Rod of Ropes 4,000 gp
Scroll: Minor Creation 700 GP
Scroll: Heart of Earth: 1050 gp
Ring of Featherfall 2200gp
Scroll: Phantom Steed 375gp
Artificer's Monocle 1500gp
Eyes of the eagle 2500gp
Hand of the Mage 900 gp (See creative uses of cantrips)
Scroll: Haste 375 gp

21208gp to spend.

Eldariel
2012-06-19, 11:57 AM
Pearls are awesome, but I rarely run out of spells. I'm not sure they're the most potent of the options.

I do like the Bedroll x2 idea posted above, and so the list as it currently stands is

Circlet of Rapid Casting + Headband+4= 31,000 gp (Raises from 21 to 25)[5k gp added to surplus]
Boccob's Blessed book: (12,500 gp)
Scroll: Wall of Fire 700gp
Scroll: Fly 375 GP
Scroll: Mirror Image 150 gp
Scroll: Greater Invis, 700GP
Light Warhorse 150gp
Scroll: Polymorph 700gp
Scroll: Black Tentacles 700 GP
Heward's Fortifying Bedroll x2 6,000 gp
Rod of Ropes 4,000 gp
Scroll: Minor Creation 700 GP
Scroll: Heart of Earth: 1050 gp
Ring of Featherfall 2200gp
Scroll: Phantom Steed 375gp
Artificer's Monocle 1500gp
Eyes of the eagle 2500gp
Hand of the Mage 900 gp (See creative uses of cantrips)
Scroll: Haste 375 gp

21208gp to spend.

I think you might want to consider cutting Blessed Book for the Ioun Stone. It's useful but right now you're still raising your plain numbers so it might be worth more. If not, just go back to Headband +6. I still don't think the very occasional Feather Fall you need to cast is worth the 2k the ring costs you. Rod's fine if you can't find anything better though.

EDIT: Oh yeah, Con-boost items are usually nice-to-have just in case. Some AOEs and effects might catch you and having the HP to survive is generally preferable. Something to look into, I guess. Dex also of course.

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 01:01 PM
I think I agree. Ioun Stone it is.


Circlet of Rapid Casting + Headband+4= 31,000 gp (Raises from 21 to 25)[5k gp added to surplus]
Ioun Stone Orange +1 CL 30,000gp
Scroll: Wall of Fire 700gp
Scroll: Fly 375 GP
Scroll: Mirror Image 150 gp
Scroll: Greater Invis, 700GP
Light Warhorse 150gp
Scroll: Polymorph 700gp
Scroll: Black Tentacles 700 GP
Heward's Fortifying Bedroll x2 6,000 gp
Rod of Ropes 4,000 gp
Scroll: Minor Creation 700 GP
Scroll: Heart of Earth: 1050 gp
Ring of Featherfall 2200gp
Scroll: Phantom Steed 375gp
Hand of the Mage 900 gp (See creative uses of cantrips)
Scroll: Haste 375 gp

3,705 gp remaining. . .

Biffoniacus_Furiou
2012-06-19, 01:12 PM
Cast Mount, preferably with a Lesser Rod of Extend, and you're better off without the liability of a horse. Get an Eternal Wand of Phantom Steed if you want a warhorse.

Keep the Blessed Book, the sooner you get it the better it is. Without it, all those scrolls you have listed will cost you an extra 3,600 gp for scribing costs, but the Blessed Book reduces that to only 1,000 gp.

Consider a Ring of Arcane Might instead of the Ioun Stone, it's 10k cheaper. If you apply the table for Estimating Magic Item Gold Piece Values (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/creatingMagicItems.htm) to the Ioun Stone, particularly the No Space Limitation, you can halve its cost by making it occupy for example a face/goggles slot. You could also add it to an existing slotted item for +50% of the halved cost (DMG p282), or 22,500 gp. For example, an Orange Prism Ring of Arcane Might would have a total cost of 42,500 gp, and it would add +2 to your arcane caster level. Throw on a (Ring of) Sustenance effect while you're at it for another 3,750 gp, and maybe also the (Ring of) Feather Falling for 3,300 gp.


Circlet of Rapid Casting + Intellect +2= 19,000 gp (Raises from 21 to 23)
Boccob's Blessed book: (12,500 gp)
Ring of Arcane Might 20,000 gp
Orange Prism Ioun Stone (slot: face) 15,000 gp
Scroll: Wall of Fire 700gp
Scroll: Fly 375 GP
Scroll: Mirror Image 150 gp
Scroll: Greater Invis, 700GP
Light Warhorse 150gp
Scroll: Polymorph 700gp
Scroll: Black Tentacles 700 GP
Heward's Fortifying Bedroll 3,000 gp
Rod of Ropes 4,000 gp
Scroll: Minor Creation 700 GP
Scroll: Heart of Earth: 1050 gp
Ring of Featherfall 2200gp
Scroll: Phantom Steed 375gp
Artificer's Monocle 1500gp
Eyes of the eagle 2500gp
Hand of the Mage 900 gp (See creative uses of cantrips)
Scroll: Haste 375 gp
Scribing costs, 10 pages 1,000 gp

208gp remaining.

Slipperychicken
2012-06-19, 01:55 PM
Isn't casting Feather Fall an Immediate action anyway? So unless you absolutely, desperately need next rounds' Swift action, you should be fine. It's only a level 1 slot, too, so you can get away with preparing it once, maybe twice if you're going to Mount Dispel-Slip'n'Slide. Most of the time, your Phantom Steed will be fine, since people will probably shoot at the rider, thinking you took Mounted Combat. If your DM hates you and people are constantly shooting your Phantom Steed out from under you, you can cast Overland Flight and be done with it.

Also, I've been hearing that Secret Page is a RAW-legit way to create (illusory) spellbook pages, since it's the spell Blessed Book is based on. A Dispel will ruin your day, but it's great for making backup spellbooks in your backstory to keep in a safe place, since it's so cheap and quick. Maybe cast Magic Aura so people think it's a real spellbook.

AWiz_Abroad
2012-06-19, 02:22 PM
@ SlipperyChicken:

Hmm. You are right. . . and lvl 1 slots will soon become less useful.

Secret Page can create spellbooks. . . hmmm. My character does have a family with an inn, and is working on a stronghold with the rest of the party. Multiple copies would be handy. Particurally if they were protected by a dispel magic.

@Biff: As far as the ring/slotted Ioun stone goes, I do like your solution. Does 23 Int get me a 4th lvl bonus spell. That was the rationale for the headband enchancement.

Also good catch on the scribing costs. I had forgotten about them.

Andorax
2012-06-19, 03:28 PM
Personally, I thought it would be obvious (it was to me), but I've not yet seen it suggested.

Given the prestige class you're heading towards, have you considered actually picking up any of the Seven Veils themselves (Item set, chapter 6 of the MIC)? It might not be the most powerful selection, but it certainly seems thematically appropriate.

Wavelab
2012-06-19, 04:08 PM
I personally have this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187851) page bookmarked and open every time I create a character. It gives you a lot of advice.

One item that stands out from all the rest is a custom continuous item of Favor of the Martyr. It amounts up to a cost of 128 000 GP. This might be a little over the price range but saving up for it will be worth it. The spell is in Spell Compendium, you should look it up.

Orran
2012-06-19, 04:35 PM
Greater ring of Counterspells in the DMG 2 is very good, although it is 30k IIRC. Allows you to redirect or counter a spell cast within 30ft of you once per day as an immeadiate action.

EDIT: My bad, got confused with ring of spell-battle, which is what I just described and is in MIC I believe.

Little Brother
2012-06-19, 05:11 PM
Mnh, yes. Mind if I use a variant of your strategy? Long story short, I have a cheese-op game on hold where the CR 40+ BBEG just started killing gods or whatever and we failed to kill him with the resources of a metropolis, but what I /do/ have is 60,000+ gold and a ritual to time travel back a century.

Heh. Imagine his face when, suddenly, planetars, millions of them.Not at all. It actually isn't mine. A friend of mine recently got Demonweb Pits and told me about the Mephits. Also, why Planetars? You can get much better, like Black Ethergaunts.

Eldariel
2012-06-19, 05:25 PM
I personally have this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187851) page bookmarked and open every time I create a character. It gives you a lot of advice.

One item that stands out from all the rest is a custom continuous item of Favor of the Martyr. It amounts up to a cost of 128 000 GP. This might be a little over the price range but saving up for it will be worth it. The spell is in Spell Compendium, you should look it up.

It's a Custom Item tho so you really should make sure with your DM that it's ok.

Kazyan
2012-06-19, 05:30 PM
Not at all. It actually isn't mine. A friend of mine recently got Demonweb Pits and told me about the Mephits. Also, why Planetars? You can get much better, like Black Ethergaunts.

1) It won't make the DM cry -too- hard, 2) because my character is guaranteed to know about Planetars on account of firsthand experience, and 3) it was something off the top of my head.

Or maybe I'll just go with something really silly and tableflippy. Bust out a Simulacrum Solar in the present, get it to True Resurrection that Paragon Cat we blasted, go back in time, slap on an Exalted-fiendly template that will make it an Outsider, and then copy it. For 100 years. And I'll still have a single wish dispenser at the end of it all.