[PF] Draw an alchemical item as a free action

[Larpus]

Is there any item, feat or whatever that allows you to draw an alchemical item, potion or wand as a free action?

Quickdraw (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/quick-draw-combat---final) is sadly out.

Closest I could find is the Handy Haversack (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/bag-handy-haversack) which at least makes the whole ordeal not provoke attacks of opportunity.

[doko239]

Adventurer's Sash. Move action to open the flaps on the sash's pockets, but once they're open it's a free action to retrieve whatever's inside.

[Jack Zander]

Why can't you use quickdraw?

[Kane0]

Wrist Sheaths can hold Wands.

[Keneth]

Adventurer's Sash. Move action to open the flaps on the sash's pockets, but once they're open it's a free action to retrieve whatever's inside. That's arguable since it doesn't actually say so anywhere. It's just assumed because it makes items presumably easily accessible. A GM may rule otherwise.


Why can't you use quickdraw? Because the Pathfinder Quickdraw feat explicitly says you can't.


Wrist Sheaths can hold Wands. But it's still a move action to retrieve an item from it, or a swift action if the sheath is spring loaded.

[Jack Zander]

Because the Pathfinder Quickdraw feat explicitly says you can't.

ALL MY RAGE! :smallfurious:

[Larpus]

ALL MY RAGE! :smallfurious:
My thoughts exactly.

Well, I'll pass the Adventurer's Sash by the DM and see what he thinks.

Thanks for the info.

[doko239]

That's arguable since it doesn't actually say so anywhere. It's just assumed because it makes items presumably easily accessible. A GM may rule otherwise.

The big argument in favor of that interpretation is that there's no other reason for it to cost 20gp. If opening the flaps doesn't provide some benefit, then it becomes a refluffed backpack at 10x the cost.

[Keneth]

The big argument in favor of that interpretation is that there's no other reason for it to cost 20gp. If opening the flaps doesn't provide some benefit, then it becomes a refluffed backpack at 10x the cost. That would be implying that the devs went about making items and pricing them logically (here's a hint: nope). :smallbiggrin: A spring loaded wrist sheath mentioned above takes a swift action to activate and it's likely just a flick of the wrist, so why would taking an item from a bandoleer be a free action when you have to actually reach for it and take it out?

[ThiagoMartell]

I'd just houserule Pathfinder Quick Draw to work on alchemical items.

[doko239]

That would be implying that the devs went about making items and pricing them logically (here's a hint: nope). :smallbiggrin: A spring loaded wrist sheath mentioned above takes a swift action to activate and it's likely just a flick of the wrist, so why would taking an item from a bandoleer be a free action when you have to actually reach for it and take it out?

For the same reason that drawing and nocking an arrow is a free action; because it's deemed part of another action (i.e. firing said arrow).

I don't know why the wrist sheath is a swift rather than a free action (especially since it's possible to get to the point of drawing a weapon from a regular sheath as a free action) but that's sort of irrelevant. As it is, there's no reason for the Adventurer's Sash to exist if it doesn't do what I'm describing.

Also, it works that way in PFS, so that interpretation must be supported by Paizo on SOME level.

[BlueEyes]

I'd just houserule Pathfinder Quick Draw to work on alchemical items.
And allow the abuse?! :smalleek: