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daelrog
2012-07-11, 10:25 PM
Right, post your character's background and all, save for the character sheet.

Some House Rules
When to Roll Dice
I prefer to avoid rolls unless needs be. These are situations you should roll the dice.

-Combat
-Trying to do something that is being challenged
For example: Your character is in a fiddle playing challenge. Also it could be trying to get the cute guy to pay attention to you over his girlfriend or buddies. In the first case, it would be you rolling against the other fiddler, in the latter it wouldn't be the target, but those around them in contest.
-Something that puts into play the targets sixth sense of danger
For example: "Hey babe, why don't we head back to my place?" "Can you hold onto this package for me, I'll step out only for a minute." "Trust me."
-When something is challenging for your character
-Because you just want to for the fun of it.

When you don't need to
-Simple tasks in the realm of your characters potential
For example: Our computer experts really don't need to roll unless they're hacking into something highly secured. Erica really doesn't need to roll many finance rolls.
-Casual actions that don't put the person in danger
For example: Simply talking to someone at the bar (they're not in danger until you actually try to leave with them, right?), asking a small favor from a friend, saying hello.


Combat
My goal for combat is one post, one turn. Here's how combat will work for this game.

Wits+alertness for initiative.

Doesn't matter what order you post your combat for one turn, so long as each roll is clearly marked.

1) Brawl or Melee or Firearms + Dexterity* to hit. You need at least one success. Any additional successes automaticaly count as damage.
2) Strength: All successes count towards damage.
3) Steamina for soak: If you are being attacked my multiple people, roll a separate soak for each attacker.
4)Dodge+ Dexterity*

*Dexterity must be split between the attack and dodge roll. You can't use your full dexterity for both.

Wound penalties count as normal, only ignored if your characters spends a willpower point or frenzies.


One exception I can see to the attack roll is sniping. If a character is trying to shoot a target from far away and has the time to calculate the shot, it's perception, not dexterity.

Two Abilities at Once
On a rare occassion a character may be trying to do something which really requires more than one ability. For example a gymnastics routine is both performance and athletics. Writing a business letter could be finances and expression depending on the nature of the paper. In this case, the player can choose between two options.

Roll them separately and they will be averaged out.
Average the rating of the two abilities and roll it together. Round up since I'm a nice ST.

Controlling NPCs
For the most part, I will control NPCs including allies and retainers. If it's something small like asking your ghoul to check out the back of the warehouse, we can assume they'll do it. Same with if you ask your friend to meet you after they get off work.

The reason for this is twofold. The first is to create a small bit of uncertainty. Why is your ghoul late? Will your contact sell you out? Is your friend going to accept you? The second reason is for the potential for conflict. Friends argue, companions disagree. This isn't going to happen every time (it would make the backgrounds pretty silly to take), but it's a possibility now and then.


Character Deaths
It's possible. There are antagonists out there that I've designed with varying levels of power and influence. There are neutral players out there who could turn into antagonists too. Also, the oWoD series has a pretty brutal combat system.

That being said I promise not to be gunning for your characters. With what I have set up so far, I'm guessing between 0-1 characters will bite the dust. So be rest assured that odds are your character will persevere, but know that final death is possible. It should make your successes more rewarding because of it.

Team killing
This is a tricky one. Vampire is a game that depending on the circumstances, can lead to one player's character killing another. Kindred politics puts one against the other. Ideological differences go to the extreme. One kindred hurts another's loved one. There's not enough money/turf/power to go around.

This is partly mitigated due to the group we have where I don't see immediate conflict. If there had been a Setite and a Giovanni, or a priest and an infernalist to be, or something else, I'd see it more likely.

If two or more players agree that their characters are deadly rivals, it can be laid out in the OOC first. Players can agree whether they'll try to ruin each other but not kill each other (I want to gloat and prove my superiority, not give him an easy death!), to straight up duel, or whatever.

Basically, be gentemen and ladies about it in the OOC. Make it a part of the story. No hard feelings. I don't see it happening any time soon or at all, but there's my house rules for those who care.

Absences and Posting Rate
Life gets busy. Internet problems arise. Writer's block kicks in. It'll happen to me and all of you. That's all cool. I do expect people to post most days on most weeks. Consistently only once or twice a week is not going to cut it. For extended absences, just give a quick shout out in the OOC. Don't have to say why.

No Color Dialogue
In games where I'm not ST, I generally do color dialogue since that's what's asked. That's fine. In my games I say no. There are two reasons.

First, I disagree with the notion of color adding to one's character. Royal blue does not describe someone in a way that dark red does not. Yes, color does evoke emotion, but it's different depending on the person observing.

Secondly, I don't like the idea of dialogue being highlighted. Dialogue is very, very important, but I don't think it's any more important than a character's internal observations, from their actions, from other descriptions. I don't want colored, spoken words detracting from the rest of the posts.

Bowing Out
Sometimes you have to drop out of one or all your games due to time constraints. Sometimes you just aren't enjoying the game. If you plan to leave, I'd appreciate it if you let me know. Don't need a reason. Won't be offended if there's a post the following day asking for a new VtM game in the recruitment thread. For one, we do have an alternate right now. Two, I'm more than willing to let a character exit how you want them too (within reason).

A Few Changes to Which Attributes You Use
In the rules system, I believe it's dexterity+alertness for initiative. I prefer wits+alertness because that just makes more sense to me.

Occasionally I may put up other examples as they come along.

EDIT: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqEW3hRChGdDdGM1T1NGdHpoaWtXS1l3ZTB2RVc2V 1E#gid=0

Thundercracker
2012-07-11, 10:41 PM
Erica Lee:
Erica Lee, along with her parents, emigrated from Beijing as a child, and grew up in an Asian household as an only child. Her parents made her practice violin endlessly, and though she disliked playing, after 9 years of lessons, she became quite adept at the instrument. She was also a member of choir all through high school. A studious child, she has worn glasses since the age of 9 and contacts since age 14, ever since being hospitalized for a week after a venomous snakebite earned while playing in her backyard. The daughter of an engineer, Erica showed natural talent with numbers and computers, even among her friends, and was class president and a star of the debate team for her freshman and sophomore years in high school.

During her junior year, she came home from school one day to find two FBI agents sitting at her kitchen table. Erica was arrested for credit card fraud after purchasing over $100,000 worth of merchandise by mail order over 9 months, selling to students in her district and neighboring districts. For her crimes, she received 250 hours of community service and 2 years’ probation as a minor, a slap on the wrist. The punishment and disapproval from her parents was severe, but the consequences from her classmates were far worse. Part of the reason why her sentence was so light was because she implicated several others who were doing the same thing as her, though to a much lesser extent. She became known as a snitch, a rat, and many students were fined by the police and punished by their parents once they found out and confessed. The student body made Erica’s life a living hell for the next two years, and she was subjected to taunts, threats, and outright physical violence. On probation, Erica didn’t want to risk jail time, and refused to fight back, while the school administration conveniently looked the other way.

After graduating high school, her criminal record as a minor was wiped clean and she attended Columbia University, where she majored in Finance and Computer Engineering. While at school, she ironically secured a summer intern position at Visa, tracking down perpetrators of identity theft through their paper trail. Upon graduation (a year early), she went to work full time for the SEC as a consultant. There, she found a niche in the forensic accounting department, tracking down individuals committing financial crimes, rather than simple credit card fraud and identity theft. During her tenure at the SEC, she was aggressively courted by both Drexel and JP Morgan, and ultimately settled on JP Morgan due to the scandal still surrounding Drexel and their former star trader, Michael Milken. At JP Morgan, she joined FX trading desk, and used her knowledge of programming to propose integration of automated settlement, a proposal which was accepted, helping to speed transactions. This helped her catch the eye of an exeutive director, who then shifted her responsibilities to assist in the development of computerized arbitrage algorithms to take advantage of turmoil in the currency markets stemming from the collapsing Soviet Union. After only a few months at JP, she has already managed to pay off the remainder of her school loans and begun the process of amassing a financial nest egg.

With her personal life settled, Erica had intended on setting her family affairs in order.* (Un)fortunately for Erica, she had been under surveillance by more than the FBI since high school. Upon hearing of her exploits, and move from Visa to the SEC to JP Morgan, an acquaintance of one of her colleagues requested a face to face meeting with her. The Kindred have great knowledge of history, politics, enemies, and things unknown by mortal men, but none had the ability to unite the shadowy world of finance with the budding industry of integrated electronics like Erica Lee, and Clan Ventrue needed to have an agent in this new arena. Fully expecting another job offer, Erica Lee had no idea the meeting would be the last of her mortal life.

*When Erica was growing up, her uncle (father’s brother) moved to Sao Paolo and started a business trading raw materials. He moved his wife and young daughter from Shanghai (where he had moved to from Beijing), and his wife took charge of his accounting books. Several years down the road, the wife and the company’s lawyer, a local Brazilian, gave him some papers to sign, and, as he had done so many times over the years, he signed without reading. Unfortunately for Erica’s uncle, the papers gave sole ownership of the company to his wife and the company’s lawyer, with whom she was having an affair. Erica’s uncle was then served with divorce papers.
Having lost both his family and his business, and, now being threatened by the local mafia, Erica’s uncle was prepared to murder his wife and her lover, then turn his rifle on his daughter and himself, but Erica’s father was able to talk him out of the deed, convincing him to return to China and start over. Erica’s uncle maintained his contacts in Brazil, and began importing/exporting raw materials between Shanghai and Sao Paulo anew. He even got himself a new, young, wife, one with no ambition aside from raising children. He used to see his first daughter from time to time, but the child’s mind has been poisoned by Erica’s former aunt and she hates her birth father. On her final trip to Beijing, she went so far as to push her father’s pregnant wife down a flight of stairs (declaring that her father’s money should pass to her, and only her). After that day, Erica’s uncle shipped her back to Sao Paolo and cut off all contact with his first daughter. Unable to do anything at the time, Erica has never forgiven her aunt-by-blood or her new husband for what they did, and yearns to see the day her aunt, her cousin, and her aunt’s husband live in abject poverty. She also blames the mafia organization in Sao Paolo, which she is almost certain the lawyer is part of, and wishes to see them disbanded and destroyed.

Appearance:Erica is about 5’4” and 120 lbs, with a small nose and cream colored skin. Her straight black hair is kept about shoulder length, and if she is working, she will have it tied in a simple ponytail or clipped to one side. Her clothing is fit for the corporate world, pressed slacks and light colored blouse. When not working for extended periods, she will tend to dye either the tips of her hair bright green or red, or eschew the tips to paint a bright stripe along one side of her head. Her clothing changes as well, depending on the venue and ambient temperature, but typically she will wear jeans and a fitted shirt.
Driving goals:Originally, my character was simply working hard to please her parents. Never one for following the rules, this turned into an advantage when she needed to think outside the box. Just before Embrace, my character is on a single-minded mission to gain enough independence to support her parents financially, then gain enough influence to take down her aunt, uncle, cousin, and possibly an organized crime syndicate in sao paolo, brazil.

Personality:Thanks to her parents, Erica is an extremely hard worker and tends to focus on a single task until it is completed. She holds herself to a very high standard, and expects her friends and loved ones to meet equally high standards. She loves her parents very much, and will struggle greatly with how to handle becoming a vampire. She knows her parents want nothing but the best for her, but she will not be able to reveal her condition to them, which will be difficult as she has never kept anything from them in the past. They also long for a grandson (as evidenced by increasing references to Erica’s lack of boyfriend) and the full implications of her inability to carry on the family line will hit Erica like a freight train sooner rather than later (but not immediately). Ultimately, she may decide to fake her own death, but that would be devastating to her parents. In the short term, she may simply delay, putting the day of reckoning off to sometime in the future.
Edit: And Daelrog, thanks much for accepting my character.

Dark Seeker
2012-07-12, 12:00 AM
Glad I was accepted. A big hello to everyone!

Rick Valentino

Some would say that being a cop was always in Rick Valentino's blood. His dad was one, and Rick knew from an early age he was going to follow into that line of work. He joined the academy right out of college as an idealist, convinced he could change the world. And indeed, for the first few years he was regarded as a rising star.

All of this came to an end when Rick caught his partner Steve taking bribes to avoid arresting drug dealers. He threatened to report him to internal affairs, only to have Steve laugh it off. He quickly learned why. Internal affairs did nothing, and indeed the very fact that Rick had snitched destroyed his reputation in the department.

Despairing, he went to his father, his idol, only to have the man tell him that that's just the way things work in Havensworth . "The sooner you realize that son, the better off you'll be."

Hearing these words destroyed Rick's faith in everything he had ever known. He quit the department and severed ties with his family. Five years later, he makes his living as a private investigator, but is steadily losing his affection for this work as well, as the majority of his cases are frivolous affairs that he takes for the money.

Appearance
, Rick's of average height with a solid build. Never the most attractive guy in the bar, he nonetheless attracts some stares, though anyone who tries to hit on him tends to wind up disappointed when they actually talk to him. He has brown hair and hazel eyes.

Personality and Goals
Above all else, Rick wants to find something to believe in, without having to sacrifice his morals. This idealism is both a blessing and a curse. Certainly it assists the former police officer in not compromising his morals. But by the same token, he can be stubborn and uncompromising, and he has a tendency to look down on those who don't live up to his high standards. As a result, he has few friends.

Rick is a lapsed Catholic who goes to church only on the holidays. He's right of center politically, and his office proudly contains a picture he took shaking hands with former President Reagan. A patriot, he believes America is the greatest country on earth.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-12, 01:09 AM
Claire Russo checking in

Background:
Claire Russo would like to tell you she is just an ordinary girl. That would be something of a lie. The daughter of a Seattle banker she was brought up in the sweet spot of the upper middle class, not deprived but not spoiled. Her parents were (and are) loving caring people who encouraged their daughter to be whatever she wanted to be. She however chose to become a geek.

Breaking sterotypes Claire never had too much interest in the typical girly things (though she does not dislike them) but always loved math and anything electronic she could find. As a teen she was the only one she knew to actually own a personal computer, which she'd taken to upgrading herself before entering college. A course which she pursued academically

Though not hurting for options Claire decided remain relatively close to home attended college in at the Havensworth College just outside of the city of the same name. Here she earned a BSc in Computer Science then enrolled in the post-graduate studies where she is currently working on her doctorate.

That covers what most people know about Claire. Fewer know that while certainly earnest in her academic studies of computers, she also dabbles in the darker side of computer science. While more mischievous then malicious Claire has a good understanding of the principles of hacking and is an associate in a loose (and deliberately nameless) group of hackers who communicate through a private BBS system. She uses the name Lady Black Box (or variations like LBB) in this capacity, causing much speculation among her friends as to if she is really female.

At present Claire is between part-time jobs, but thanks to her father's financial acumen can live a thrifty lifestyle through several funds. At present she has elected focus on finishing her studies, but considers herself well supplied for fund. Recently experienced heard an odd story from a friend over Usenet that he'd discovered several bank accounts whose users were over 150 years old. When he later disappeared she decided to ask a few questions herself.

Description:
Still young at 25 and 5'2" and 104 lbs Claire has maintains a mildly athletic build. Of Italian-American extraction she has a faintly Mediterranean appearance. Her brown wavy hair is of moderate length, hanging to just past her shoulders but she generally pulls it up into a pony tail, finding that simpler then styling every day. Dresses in clothes based more around comfort then style but has no real favorites, but the most common ensemble would be shorts and a tank top which she will wear around her apartment. Wears glasses and fairly minimal make-up. The overall effect is generally considered somewhere between brainy and girl-next-door.

Her parents raised Claire as a secular-athiest though she has drifted into being more agnostic over the years. She is left leaning politically and mostly in 'liberated' social views, but is no activist. Publicly has no problems with authority, but privately finds it fun to tweak the staid institutions she feels have grown fat and decadent in the 80s, hence her "hobby" activities. Not anti-social, but only has a few friends by choice and prefers to talk more seriously thus does not go in much for small talk. While she doesn't put much personal stock in her looks she is confident in them so feels no need to dress them up.

Strawberries
2012-07-12, 02:17 AM
Amy 'Evaz' Everett

BACKGROUND
At a first glance, Amy Everett is just one of the faceless, under-qualified, minimum-wage grunts that make up most of the lower-middle class of any decently size city. She was born in Havensworth 23 years ago, and has never left the state in her entire life. Her family cannot be defined upper-class by any stretch of imagination: her father, John, is a bartender, and her mother, Sarah, a waitress. Her parents met on their job, and went on to marry and have two children: Amy herself and a younger sister, Mary.

Formal education was never very high on the Everetts’ list of priorities: they were much more concerned with making ends meet. As such, Amy just completed the compulsory education, and left school when she was 17, getting a minimum-wage job in retail, as a clerk store in a small shop that sells food, household items and beer. She left home, too, four years ago, moving in a small one-room apartment in the most rundown neighborhood she could find.

However, there is one thing Amy is good at. If she had excelled at something in her school years, this had been computer science – as a sort of rebellion against the depressing destiny that life seemed to have decided for her, she taught herself a lot about computer securities and information networks: she has become a fairly known name in the computer geek under-community, under the nickname “Evaz”.

Amy may not be educated, but she’s smart… and she loves knowing things she shouldn’t. Her boss, for instance? He has some shady deals on the side. Amy knows this because she started monitoring the stores CCTV once that she was bored. Oh, and the nice lady that comes by in the morning, every morning, to buy milk and bread? Apparently, she’s blackmailing someone…her lover, Amy supposes. It does explain the large sum of money that mysteriously finds its way on her account every month. Amy’s not planning to use these information any time soon, because she can’t work up the courage to, but it gives her a thrill of power. She doesn’t do it for the potential money she may hope to earn, just for the satisfaction she feels when she manages to uncover something: being one step ahead the other people is a feeling she has very rarely experienced in her life.

CONTACTS
Most of Amy’s contacts are online. Of those, of particular note would be ProphetFreak. Yeah, the nickname is a bit... quaint, if Amy ha to be completely honest with herself, but he is the go-to person for most of your legal and less-than-legal needs. Amy doesn't know his real name (or face, for that matters), but she has spoken to him online and on the phone. She is at least pretty sure he is a man.

One of the few people she knows face-to-face which could be a good source of information is James Goldsmith. Jim, as he prefers to be called, is a cop. He is a client in the shop where Amy works, and they have, with time, developed a passing acquaintance - and maybe a distant friendship of some sort. Jim may not look like much: just a typical middle aged cop, but he is the sort of person who knows things. Amy has had that distinct impression every time she has talked to him: that the man has himself an extraordinary network of information, and an ear on the ground for most of the things happening in the city.

She has recently come in contact, online, with a certain “Mike”, that contacted her and seems very interested in her. He seems like a clever, funny and unconventional young man, and Amy is wondering if she should meet him in real life as he has requested. She is inclined to say “yes”. After all, what does she have to lose?

APPEARANCE

She’s never been anything special to look at. Short-ish and plain, with straight brown hair that reach her shoulders and brown eyes, she’s the kind of person you don’t turn around to look at a second time. She has never worried too much about her appearance, either. She honestly can’t see the point in that.

PERSONALITY
She is accustomed to make the most with the hand life has dealt her, even though she knows it’s not a very nice hand. A bit cynical, and a bit fatalist, she is prone to black humor and pessimism. Her parents are very religious, but she’s never believed in God, not since she was a very small child. And she doesn’t really care enough about politics to identify with any party, but most of her ideas are close to the leftwing area.

GOALS
Amy feels like she’s adrift, somehow. Probably, if you asked her about her goals, she wouldn’t know what to answer. This is partly because she’s still young, and partly because she knows most of life’s doors are closed for her: no instruction and no money usually don’t bring you very far in life. She knows she’d like to amount to a little more than an anonymous clerk. She just hasn’t figured out how to do it, yet.

Worlok
2012-07-12, 10:43 AM
Reposting. Thanks for having me, by the way. :smallbiggrin:

The middle child of seven, Faruq ibn Khaled ibn Mohammed al-Assad was born on February 7th, 1971, in Edinburgh, Scotland, first of his family to be born outside of the Arab World. While his early life was less than spectacular, mainly being your typical immigrant childhood in Europe during the '70s - if somewhat heavily involved with drugs and petty crime from very early on - much of his path was laid out for him from day one. This was partially due to the nature of the family business - in which Faruq, of course, was expected to become involved - and partially due to the nature of the family itself.

When asked about his beginnings, Faruq is quick to recall a certain relative, whom his father and older brothers (he does not, in fact, have older sisters) refer(ed) to as "Uncle Ahmad" in hushed and reverant tones and who was the one to pull the proverbial strings necessary to allow the family to move to the Islands at all. This man, a brother of his father's father, far as he's aware, came to visit every once in a blue moon, and whenever he would, he would carry with him a crate of bottles filled with a most mysterious, reddish drink, which the men of the family would consume in something of a celebration, particularly Khaled, Faruq's father, being known to act more readily at ease than ever else on such occasions. Furthermore, recurring topics in such instances would be the state of business, Ahmad being not only part of the family, but also Khaled's and his adult sons' boss, and the numerous blights and misfortunes they wished upon a man they called Haqim and all his henchmen.

Faruq inferred that they were among the reasons for the move that saw him born a Scottish citizen, yet he did not care much for such things (and it's not like he would have been told if he'd bothered), being content with living his life and enjoying the odd fill of weed here and there (meaning too much, too often) - until his eighteenth birthday came, once again and with a certain air of inevitability to it bringing the presence of Ahmad about. While they had rarely interacted much beyond the very basics of familial hospitality, Faruq finding his uncle a most sinister and creepy sort - even through his father's repeated insistations that he was the furthest from a bad man you could be in the whole world - he was on that day taken aside by the latter, and made an offer of some import: Slacker, stoner, criminal and disappointment that he was, and knowingly, for he would never hear the end of it despite most of those goings-on not having come about by his own choice, he was nonetheless a family member, and would as such be expected to act like one, namely in getting his act together and thereafter working for Uncle Ahmad. As it stood, the newly-adult had the kind of subterfuge his sponsorous relative had been looking for, and certainly the kind of background to allow him to be useful to them all (thereby suggestively winking at the door to Faruq's room, in which the very had previously been hitting the pipe). He would, if he wanted to be of worth, therefore share his uncle's drink for the first time that night, and start an apprenticeship under one of the elder's business partners. When initally he was reluctant still, Faruq was informed that that would, in his case, entail living in America (and that the drink was "non-alcoholic and mainly just a symbol of allegiance, so don't you worry about that, my boy"), and sung the praise of the USA, where apparently everything was that much bigger and the chances limitless and everywhere. And all he had to do was shake on it and make his father proud...

The official family business is transportation, specifically transportation of heavy or fragile or otherwise rather demanding sorts of machinery (and, for some reason, also extensive amounts of mass-produced little trinkets the likes of which you can find on any reasonably sorted flea market), and more specifically yet a sizeable company based out of Edinburgh that goes by the name of "Al-Assad and Flockton Transportation Co." (or "AFCo" for short) - The inofficial side of it being the carefully pre-packaged masses of hashish stored in the interior of sound and speaker systems and smuggled from the heartland of Arabia towards the West Coast of America. The actual chain of supply distribution is still not known to Faruq entirely, other than that it involves ships crossing the Pacific Ocean and exchanging what lies in their cargo bays out on blue water and far from sight, and he is not yet so high on the ladder as to draw much in the way of benefits or know about what other venues of profit the company entertains: Rather, his appointment is to supervise things in and around the city of Havensworth, not overspend his (sizeable, if quite modest) allowance, distribute payments and bribes and learn the ways of the trade from Charles Flockton, a British-American who is both the business partner I have talked about and, unbeknownst to Faruq, involved with the human-trafficking part of the darker side. What this concretely means for Faruq is a standing order to infiltrate local scenes, make friends and partners, network, and assure the flawless continuation of the money-making process, as well as run errands as needed, for while the city is a vital part of the chain, so to speak, Havensworth itself remains nigh-completely un-tapped by AFCo, who have so far been confined to the hinterlands as well as the areas further inland and are yet to muscle in on the town-level drug market for good.
Description and character traits, ideals, goals, personality:

Other than a noted preference for long white hoodies, Faruq's sense of style is not markedly different from your average teenage slacker-type. He goes with what works or looks cool to him, however, in a move rather atypical of Arabs abroad, he has made efforts to let his hair grow out and received an impressive mane in return. He is less attractive than he thinks he is, if still arguably a handsome sort underneath the ravishes of his hobby and unhealthy lifestyle, and his low stress resistance has left him somewhat pale and thin-skinned recently. Having been your standard chav way back in Edinburgh, he tends towards a rather thuggish, don't-mess-with-me attitude which some would consider typical of young males in his demographic - when he's out and about, that is, and not "on duty", as it were. A little smarter than his looks would indicate, and while tougher than that, not a good fighter by any means, however, he tries to keep out of genuine trouble, and has always tried.

Seems skinny at first glance, used to aspire to Olympic swimmerdom when younger, can be described as wiry, or rattily tough. Likes to refer to himself as "The Ferret", which has not, so far, caught on. Habitual wearer of sunglasses, smokes "mere" tobacco on occasion, mainly when invited or having five bucks and some time to kill, not a devout muslim (he does like his vodka-mixes way too much for that), quiet guy when not trying to get his way or convince somebody of things. Thinks of himself as a liberal, harbors some leftist tendencies, is far more conservative in some ways than he likes to admit. Shaves, still sports a diehard goatie-pattern stubble though. Tends towards arrogance he mistakes for "actively-projected confidence", and occasionally does poorly at taking a joke. Happy to aid in the shipment and trade of green undercover because he's a fan of the plant and considers providing it outright heroism. Does not intend to be considered a failure by his old man until the end of his days. Would like to be powerful and successful, while investing the least possible amount of work.

Dislikes men wearing jewelry, people yelling when indoors, sudden fast and unheralded movement, the smell of vanilla, people who mouth dislike of him, bright light, and those that brag about their knowledge of computers.

Likes various sorts of music, his coffee with milk and sugar, tight-fitting dress on women, the taste of vanilla, the idea of one day owning a muscle car, the sound of rain, and movies featuring excessive violence.

Afraid of big dogs, his uncle on his worst days, Flockton on his best, and real-life excessive violence.
Recent goings-on:

Still up to his old shenanigans, yet without much in the way of a social network to draw upon (other than see below), he improves his in- and outcome by personally dealing on the side and otherwise making himself known throughout the nightlife of Havensworth. Still being merely twenty years of age (official paperwork, including his fancy British passport, doctored and "cooked" with some amount of mastery, says twenty-three), he's in the dying throes of adolescence, puberty even, and the kind of guy to occasionally sit inside for days, look at the rain outside his (company-owned) one-room appartment, nurse his bong (called "Faith", originally named after a porn starlet he was fond of, later "re-fluffed" into being a pun about how "my Faith is my pillar and keeps me going, you know?") and ponder the various more-or-less imaginary indignities and troubles life has piled upon him. Not much of a reader, but with a strong and enduring love of over-the-top action flicks, he would at times bide his days and nights away on seventy-two-hour movie binges, and on whims and chances strike out to hit up parties he'd heard about or peddle his wares (both the legal and illegal kind, namely trinkets and weed) in the streets of the city, all the while trying to find his way in life.

As for working alongside Flockton, he's creeped out by the man as much as before by his uncle, all the more since he once spied a photograph in the American's private rooms depicting Flockton, Ahmad, and a third, far older man, smiling and posing in front of then-barren fields. Apparently, neither his uncle nor his new boss had aged notably since it was taken, which seemed all the more interesting considering the photograph was apparently dated 1913. He never saw Flockton eat or partake of the shippings, and could swear at times that the man didn't breathe. When asked about it, he would only ever urge secrecy and change topic, or grin to himself and imply his charge was mistaken. At times, however, he would make comments along the lines of "Noone told you, then? Doesn't surprise me in the least. You will find out in time. Just don't mention this. Ever. To anyone. Understood?" Given the guy's reputation for being merciless against those who'd cross him, he tended to understand.

This went on until not too recently, when upon a cold night his uncle called, having made an agreement of some kind with "certain elements of my acquaintance". It was time, Ahmad declared, for his nephew to be let in on a secret, and if he could please move his sorry ass to Seattle, where Flockton would await him in a hotel room come (then-)next Thursday, ready to "officially promote" him to the inner ranks of AFCo politics...
Allies:

His family in Edinburgh: Still likes to keep in touch, occasionally lets them know how he is doing when he finds the time and inclination. Particularly his older brothers work in functions much similar to his own, if higher up the ladder and in Europe, not America. They rarely talk, and Faruq only met the oldest, Hussain, since his travel across the pond.

Uncle Ahmad: Gets his own entry, despite being family. Well-connected criminal of some importance, likes to keep his secrets in the family for fear of betrayal, made an exception for Flockton, who's family in a way. Out of his nephews, most fond of Faruq, readily citing the latter reminds him of himself on his more talkative days. More fond still of his niece, the youngest al-Assad child, Aaliyah. Witty guy, if intimidating. "Probably" older than he looks. Possibly Flockton's sire.

Charles Flockton: British-American entrepeneur of a most questionable kind, still influential though. Shareholder and co-founder of AFCo. Involved with its most unsavory workings, allegedly also owner and sometimes supplier of brothels all over the states. Always in suits, likes to wear neckties, shares Farug's fondness of shades. Thinks precious little of Faruq, as far as he lets on, despite being in charge of training him, considers "Maddie's boy" to be the kind of guy to profit of his powerful relatives and then fail to do his work. Possibly Ahmad's childe, potentially soon Faruq's sire.

Steve: Corrupt member of the Havensworth police force, Faruq having been advised to call him over "that one house for sale in Wyoming" when (potentially) in trouble with the law. They get along well enough, far as Faruq can tell, but he did not so far have to call in the favor.

Isaac: Something of a friend of Faruq's. Technically low-ranking company subcontractor. Remnant of when the company's "agents" successfully ran afoul of a resident gang. Hulking African-American with a bit of a track record, friendly enough when you know him, officially manager of the small chain of electronic supply stores the AFCo maintains as fronts. Due to his gang relations and the nature in which the conflict that won him over was resolved, able to call upon what he calls the "clean-up crew" of Havensworth area thugs. However, only Flockton actually has the authority to make him do so.
And the questionnaire:


Define Faruq's style of subterfuge. I don't want to know just that's he's sneaky, but how as well.
Well, it's not so much being sneaky as being deceitful and hard to get a hold of, really. You know this one guy who likes to claim he knows a guy who can score drugs? Faruq is the guy that guy you know likes to claim he knows, but it's unlikely that you know Faruq, or that Faruq knows you. He doesn't so much try not to be seen as to make sure he's only seen by the right people or those he wants to see. He isn't exactly elusive by nature, instead he eludes for a living. This dude that doesn't stick out, but seems to always stick around somehow, and yet when you're looking for him, he can't seem to be found. The guy you need a month's worth of information gathering to meet once, but only a second's worth of looking promising to be met by repeatedly. He would, for example, ask people for their number, say he'll be calling them, actually call them - anonymously - and only agree to another meeting for which he dictates the terms.

People underestimate a stoner, people need their dealer, he just is himself, and thus he thrives off certain someones being dumb, and other someones being smarter, all is well. Or at least that's how he sees it, and the way he likes to see himself.

Ultimately, The Ferret is someone who does his darndest to be the last person anyone would suspect. This one individual noone recalls inviting, yet everyone was expecting to be invited, anyhow. One of those quiet types nobody ever thought to be capable of the things he does. The unassuming dude in the concealing clothes that approaches lone drunk people in dark alleyways and asks them whether they need a fix, only to then convince them they need a fix, and milk them for all it's worth, never to be seen again unless an ongoing business relationship is established. That kind of guy, but likely a little more friendly and well-meaning in character than my descriptions would evoke. Does that work?


How does the "farret" get along with the ladies?
Arguably rather well, though probably nowhere near sex-god-tier. When hit on or approached, he's likely to respond in kind, though as the middle child of seven (five of the other six being guys of about his age, and arguably more "manly" as well as certainly more extroverted than him to a man) he is rather used to being overlooked, meaning that when he does receive female attention, he's likely to ride it out, being as loud, alert, active and in-your-face about it as possible. He's given to a certain degree of machismo, meaning he will typically act as if it's the most natural thing in the world for all the girls in the vicinity to unconditionally be all over him (especially when they aren't), or, otherwise, try to play everything absolutely cool, acting as unaffected and "well above it all" as he can. Then again, he's also been known to be rather outgoing and over-the-top flirtatious at times. And occasionally undergoes long episodes of crippling arkwardness as well, especially when in a rain-watching mood for long enough. In the end, though, he's simply a moderately attractive, debatably self-centered guy with a mood-swing-dependent attitude meaning it varies immensely from day to day and from context to context.

Then, of course, there's the saddening fact that having easy access to illegal drugs tends to make you quite popular in certain circles, and as that has been a long-standing thing with him, he's used to the idea of having interest in him faked to attain a goal other than to have him respond in kind, even and especially in terms of "personal relations". He's also well aware that being stoned can make one horny. In conclusion, he is'nt "roofying date-rapist" levels of pathetic, nor "drug-shilling junkie pimp" levels of scum, actually having a notable and outspoken dislike of folks like that, but he's not above using the means he has at hand to attain the ends he has on his mind, provided, of course, they are urgent enough, and certainly wouldn't turn down opportunities that arise. Actually, "opportunist" describes the character quite well overall, in this regard as well as in others, I'd say. :smallredface:


What's his stance on murder?
Morally reprehensible, hard to pull off without it coming around to make things difficult for everyone, a rather severe harshing of his mellow and not useful in the least. As a general rule of thumb, that is. He will of course act tough at times and pose around a lot, but that's mainly chest-thumping meant to intimidate. "Will threaten murder when really irate, will not go through on it unless desperate, did not, so far, have to go through on it, knock on wood" likely sums it up. He's your typical small-scale crook at heart, much talk and little to back it up, key being that he actually knows that much. The Ferret won't threaten a guy who's three times his size and mass, and he won't switch the blade he carries around on some dude without provocation, but he will try to establish that he is not to be trifled with, and isn't afraid to use (threats of) violence where he does not have much to fear or finds himself at the end of his rope. All told, however, he's wont to try and weasel his way out of a problematic situation by other means first.


How does he rationale a life of crime?
By order of importance: Ease of gain, familial obligations, this being a decent life all things considered (/ he gets free ganjah and coin to spare), bare necessity. It's the family business, it's profitable, they have a good thing going and there's really not much else for him to do. Before Ahmad "roped" him into doing this, his days consisted of roaming the schemes of Edinburgh with a bunch of losers and thugs, robbing convenience stores where convenient, only going to school to shill weed in the restrooms, at least by the end of his stay, and generally being a layabout who could already visualise himself growing old on welfare in boredom and misery. Now, he has something of a goal, something resembling an opportunity, he gets to visit America, makes a pretty penny with the work he loves, and doesn't actually have to do much other than hang out and talk with people every now and then. Plus, he gets to act all serious and dangerous at times, and can imagine himself as some sort of mafia boss or big, bad spymaster, which is a plus.


What would his price be to betray his family?
He'd likely be the last one to admit it, but he loves them lots. He used to be kind of a disappointment to them, and they still ended up giving him another chance, one laden with great responsibilities at that, so he would have to be hard-pressed to readily and willingly betray their trust in him. Which is as much a matter of honor as well as gratitude, really. They're distant, not dysfunctional, and some of Ahmad's Ian-Starshine-approach to secret-keeping carried over to Faruq. Which of course doesn't mean he's suddenly and magically better at fulfilling expectations, but it is a driving goal of his to not remain(/become) a (greater/total) disappointment. Which naturally includes being true to them to the fullest of his ability. (As a sidenote, the bit with the drink Ahmad distributed at family get-togethers was meant to kind of imply there were ghoulings to reinforce family ties in some cases - which I understand to be heavily blooddrinking-based - so there is the possibility that failure in upholding this ideal will turn out to be a really unwise move. But such is, of course, up to you as the storyteller. :smallsmile:)


What sort of power is he looking for, or does he just want power in general and will figure out the specifics later?
The latter, primarily. He'd like to be a sort of "alpha male", as the term is commonly understood, and has the kind of aspirations someone who dearly enjoys the notion of maybe one day owning a personal musclecar might be expected to have, but mostly, he just wants more of all the good stuff in life, and he wants it to be where he wants it, when he wants it, all the time, the earlier, the better.


I take it you are looking for an Assamite character?
Was thinking Ventrue, actually. Just in this case, several Arabic / Muslim ones who probably had their ways and beliefs shaped by exposure to them - I had considered something of an ongoing "be migrant, get embraced abroad" theme for these folks. The "human trafficking" bit about Flockton, and the whole "world spanning crime business" angle just screamed "potential cornerstone to a shadow society of progressively inhumane bloodsuckers" to me, even if good ol' Faruq is a bit of an unusual specimen, which I'll be the first to admit. Though, to be fair, I have been thinking about this for some time, and figure Assamite would also make some sense, maybe as antitribu viziers, what with the "hashashin" theme (:smalltongue:) and the fact that the clan kind of does control the Peninsula and thereabouts...

dancrilis
2012-07-12, 01:07 PM
Danielle -
Background:

Born one of a pair of twins to a French woman named Melissa living in Havensworth where she worked as a post-doctoral botanist Danielle never knew her father or even her mothers extended family.

Her mother while caring and kind to her children was focused on her career more then her daughters leaving the two to be raised by babysitters and neighbours, this left both girls a bit at odds with one another for attention especially as few could tell them apart.

Where her sister Katrina throw herself into the social scene at school Danielle focused on more athletic pursuits, despite this (or because of it) they were very good friends and woe to those that tried to cross either one of them as both always had the others back.

This changed shortly after their thirteenth birthday Katrina became insular and sullen as puberty hit her harder then Danielle and she started suffering from nightmares, around this time their mother decided it would do the girls good to go on a camping trip, where they got to know her a good bit better over the week, she told them about their father she didn't have a lot to say other then to describe him, about his animal magnetism and charm, and how she had met him in a town near where they were camped, she mentioned how her parents had abandoned her after she got pregnant, how she wished she had been there more for them growing up but wanted to ensure that whatever they did she could support them, it was a lovely holiday occasionally split by the girls arguing and stormed off before forgetting about it later when they calmed down.

Unfortunately after one of these fights Katrina was never seen again.

Danielle and her mother were devastated, the police preformed a wide hunt and turned up nothing, locals were accounted for and the area that they were staying was not frequently travelled.

After the initial search and an investigation the remaining family members became the top subjects and after this was slipped to the media things got very bad for them locally, Danielle was tormented at school accused of being a murderer and worse Melissa retreated into her work in theory to secure a future for her remaining daughter really Danielle felt it was so she wouldn't have to be reminded of Katrina ever time she saw her, and through it all the worst of it was wondering what had happened to Katrina, Danielle was sure she was alive she felt it.

Danielle dealt with the grief at school by being quick to strike out when needed and took up martial arts to assist with this, the girls at school learned to steer clear as did most of the boys, she was not strong but she was skilled and that counted for a lot when it came to ruining a start footballer's reputation as a tough guy in front of his bitch of a girlfriend before hitting her a solid slap for saying something dumb, she also learned to play the piano to but her feelings to music and started picking up some more languages, but always focused on trying to find new ways to find her sister.

Now at seventeen she is considering a university course in Criminal Investigations, she feels her sister is out there somewhere and intends to locate her no matter what and bring her back home.

Appearance:

Danielle is a tall slight girl of about 5' 8'' and weighing about 115 pounds, her body is honed through constant exercises to ensure she can protect herself, she has long blond hair kept in a ponytail (and occasionally pigtails as she and her sister used to like to wear their hair when she is feeling nostalgic).

Despite the work she has done to ensure she can protect herself her muscle mass has not come in yet leaving her somewhat slighter then she might otherwise be, but most agree that this takes very little away from her appearance.


Personality:

Danielle is somewhat stubborn, when everyone else has given up on Katrina she still clings on and is working towards a plan to find her.
She likes to socialise providing but will not be insulted when it comes to her sister and has learned that the perfect comeback might be nice to have most people that would start on a topic like that deserve a sharp kick to the head to knock some sense into them.


Activities:

Danielle's likes compete with others in some martial arts competitions finding them a good way to ensure she is in fit condition, she finds music to be a more personal experience but has started occasionally playing in a club on quite nights to make some money, other then this she pays close attention to the news for missing people report and helps where she can donating time and money to organisations and searching personally when possible.
She has also found that she can get some occasional work in the the court house as a translator but this is infrequent.


Q&A:

Who does your character care about most?
She would automatically say her sister, however in truth her mother might be the correct answer.

Where would they be the year 2000?
Likely finishing up a Phd in Criminology, and moving to become detective.

Where would they be today?
With new technology and methods she would be still hopeful of finding her sister throughout the years, but it would have moved on to finding other people also to help the families, she would also likely have followed her mothers footsteps into academia.

What's one really redeeming quality about this person?
They are utterly devoted to a noble goal while not being blind to the suffering of others.

What's one thing (or three things) which makes this character flawed?
She is overly emotional around the topic of her sister and can't accept that she is gone, while a good driving force she could hurt someone if she doesn't get an handle on herself, and this could really mess with her life.

What's something your character is good at, that isn't necessarily going to serve them well now that they're a vampire?
She is good outdoors, which will likely not be to useful as a vampire. Also her fighting ability while solid for someone her age would not hold up against a supernatural treat.

What are your character's political and religious beliefs?
She has no particular strong beliefs on either, her grandparents were apparently religious but they abandoned her mother and politics seems to be almost the art of not getting things done.

If your character was at a grocery store and a pair of robbers came in with guns out, what would they do?
She would hide, if she could get close enough and she thought they might actually hurt someone she would act to try to take them down.


Danielle at 14 shortly after returning from her summer holidays:

Danielle had hoped that this year would be better at school, after her sister went missing many of Katrina's friends had turned on her after the media painted her as a potential culprit, and in fairness it had died down somewhat, there were still jeers occasionally but most people were moving on with their lives ... unlike her, and unlike Natalie.

Natalie was a troublesome girl her family were poor and religious American to the core, and she had always resented the rich kids from an unmarried mother and of European decent, and that one of them was a suspected murderer and still walking free offended her greatly.

A heavyset girl she was a target for some abuse in the school also and when she saw Danielle crying in the toilets one day when they seemed to be alone she began to take out her own issues on her, asking if she finally felt guilt regret at what she had done how, how it felt to have killed her own sister, Danielle moved to leave after wiping the tears away in anger but Natalie grabbed her and held her face to a mirror, 'Every day, you will see her every day until you die. And then you will burn, both you and your whore of a mother for your sins'.

At this Danielle snapped beating the other girl bloody, the beating - you couldn't call it a fight was only ended when a teacher pulled Danielle off her after an other girl entered and then ran to get help.

Danielle would have been expelled baring three elements, her mother had always paid the full voluntary contribution that the school asked for and agreed to get Danielle into anger management courses and likely most importantly another girl who had been in a stall and overheard the entire thing spoke on Danielle's behalf.

Most left Danielle alone after that, some after hearing the full story of the insults she had taken even warmed to her a bit, others just steered clear or ensured that they kept there taunts to a certain level, Natalie for one never bothered her again.

Additional:
What drives her other than her sister?
She does care deeply for her mother and wants to see her happy, she also wants a good education, she doesn't give boys (or girls for that matter) much thought at the moment but she is looking forward to finding out a bit more about herself in college, and making a life for herself.

What gets her through the minor stuff?
She does like exercising and playing her music (and occasionally composing), she also occasionally she just cries or has a heart to heart with her mother if she is around.

Does she like to read?
She was never a big reader preferring action, but does make a point of reading the local broadsheet daily.

What kind of music does she listen to?
She does quite like the classical music and would normally listen to it, but when exercising she normally listens to Bon Jovi or Meatloaf as solid pieces to work out to, she is also a big fan of Frank Sinatra and his daughter Nancy Sinatra.

Thanks for having me.

JonRG
2012-07-12, 06:13 PM
Hey guys! *waves from sidelines*

Remember: Good luck, have fun, and don't die. :smallbiggrin:

daelrog
2012-07-12, 07:32 PM
All right, everyone's here! I'll get the last two preludes up within the next hour or two.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-12, 07:55 PM
Remember: Good luck, have fun, and don't die. :smallbiggrin:

Well that at last one will probably be hard to avoid.

Worlok
2012-07-12, 11:13 PM
Thanks, Nyarai. *waves back* :smallwink:

Anyone else feeling like this is off to an awesome start? :smallbiggrin:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-13, 12:06 AM
I can agree to that I think.

Thundercracker
2012-07-13, 12:07 AM
Thanks, Nyarai. *waves back* :smallwink:

Anyone else feeling like this is off to an awesome start? :smallbiggrin:

Anyone else having trouble accessing giantitp? I'm having to bounce off a server in the US.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-13, 12:11 AM
Anyone else having trouble accessing giantitp? I'm having to bounce off a server in the US.

No more then usual it normally is pretty hiccupy around these hours for me.

Worlok
2012-07-13, 01:22 AM
Same here. I recently learned that it's sort of an issue with the forums being basically rather small for just how much goes on in them, and so the bandwidth ends up being overworked and overcrowded on occasion. Perfectly normal, and typically temporary. :smallsmile:

Strawberries
2012-07-13, 01:36 AM
Hey guys! *waves from sidelines*

Hey, Nyarai! *wave back*


Remember: Good luck, have fun, and don't die. :smallbiggrin:


You mean: 'Don't die too soon' or 'Don't die twice'? :smallwink:

Worlok
2012-07-13, 02:12 AM
So... Remember how I pointed out Faruq's a little more conservative about things than he cares to admit? My last post is that in action. :smalleek: Also, I'm likely going to have to roll to bluff, as it were, sometime soon.

daelrog
2012-07-13, 03:40 AM
So... Remember how I pointed out Faruq's a little more conservative about things than he cares to admit? My last post is that in action. :smalleek: Also, I'm likely going to have to roll to bluff, as it were, sometime soon.

Whatever do you mean? Nothing but good old casual fun going on the Weiman and Kirsch.

Strawberries
2012-07-13, 03:45 AM
Ahem...which reminds me: is it okay if we look at each other's preludes or we may spoil something for ourselves? I'm usually good at keeping IC and OOC knowledge separated, but if there's something really big, then I don't want to know.

If it's okay, could we have a post here linking at all the IC threads? That would be nifty. :smallsmile:

Worlok
2012-07-13, 03:46 AM
Whatever do you mean? Nothing but good old casual fun going on the Weiman and Kirsch.
Cool you're cool about it, boss. Just wanted to defuse the potential payload on that. :smallredface:

daelrog
2012-07-13, 07:15 AM
@Strawberries: You can if you want. I don't mind either way.

@Worlok: Potential payload?

Strawberries
2012-07-13, 07:32 AM
@Strawberries: You can if you want. I don't mind either way.

Excellent! So, let's see.... *Stalks ST post history*

We have:

+ Amy's prelude (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249267)
+ Erica's prelude (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249272)
+ Danielle's prelude (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249355)
+ Claire's prelude (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249268)
+ Rick's prelude (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249270)
and
+ Faruq's prelude (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249352). Am I missing someone else?

Wow, seems like I have a lot to read. :smalltongue:

JonRG
2012-07-13, 11:37 AM
Wow, seems like I have a lot to read. :smalltongue:

It's so worth it though. :smallwink:

Strawberries
2012-07-13, 11:43 AM
It's so worth it though. :smallwink:

I saw. Excellent writing so far, guys and gals.
And now you're making me all self-conscious about my writing skills. :smalltongue:

Thundercracker
2012-07-13, 12:10 PM
I saw. Excellent writing so far, guys and gals.
And now you're making me all self-conscious about my writing skills. :smalltongue:

Seriously... you guys are freakin' good.

Worlok
2012-07-13, 12:38 PM
@Worlok: Potential payload?
Nevermind. I'm simply so conditioned to expect even a harmless mention of political subjects made in good fun going ballistic with people hissing and spitting that I get extra-paranoid about making sure that it's not gonna happen. :smallsmile:

'nother thing though: The Forum acts like Faruq's Prelude got ten supplies so far, the last one from dael, as in, shows a "Replies" entry of 10 and a "Last Reply: daelrog" in the relevant columns when looking at the thread. That means that apparently, it didn't register my last post, even though it's there when I open the thread. Anyone else having this kind of problem or not receiving the things I write?

Dark Seeker
2012-07-13, 01:23 PM
That's happened to me before as well. I think it's just one of the forum's quirks.

And I agree. Everyone's stories have been really interesting so far. :)

JonRG
2012-07-13, 03:35 PM
FYI, Strawberries, the link to Danielle's Prelude is just another link to Erica's Prelude.

Strawberries
2012-07-13, 03:51 PM
FYI, Strawberries, the link to Danielle's Prelude is just another link to Erica's Prelude.

Ops...fixed.


Anyone else having this kind of problem or not receiving the things I write?

Yes, that happens to me too, sometimes. Just say ooc that you've posted and it should be fine. :smallsmile:

Worlok
2012-07-13, 04:03 PM
That's happened to me before as well. I think it's just one of the forum's quirks.

And I agree. Everyone's stories have been really interesting so far. :)
Alright. Just reposted my last entry in my Prelude. It simply wouldn't stop bugging me. Other than that, good to know that I am not the only one whom that problem jumps at times. :smallsmile: Say, though, in-character-wise, do you have an idea for Rick's former partner Steve's family name? Just so we're all on the same side, seeing how I kinda nicked him from your backstory. :smallwink:

And yes, great stories all around. A pleasure rolling with y'all. :smallbiggrin:

Dark Seeker
2012-07-13, 04:35 PM
I was thinking Steven Lincoln, personally. But eh,he's more your character then mine now. Whatever you pick is fine. :)

Worlok
2012-07-13, 04:37 PM
Steven Lincoln sounds perfect. Steven J. Lincoln, Havensworth Police Department. Seem alright? :smallbiggrin:

daelrog
2012-07-14, 10:18 AM
Spoiler Alert! I'm listing out everyone status right now, mostly for my amusemet.

Amy: Embraced. Surrounded by mirrors looking at her bugly new face with her sire being less than helpful.

Claire: Embraced. Just drained her first victim and is naked in the middle of an open field. How like a Gangrel she is already.

Danielle: Being assaulted by a creepy boy with a chloroform rag who used to go to her high school.

Erika: Watching soft porn on a TV and being questioned on whether she believes in monsters, and if she'll play along to a strange psychological exercise by a man who seems otherwise well in control.

Faruq: In an office with one really sexy, crazy lady. Missing a little blood already. About to do something stupid brilliant.

Rick: Battered, dying of internal injuries due to whatever-the-hell monster Harry is. Discussing his morales with a man he's never met, deciding if he's willing to live alongside monsters or die now.

Oh, and Dark Seeker, you really should have named your character something that start with a "B". Just saying...:smalltongue:

JonRG
2012-07-14, 01:37 PM
Oh, and Dark Seeker, you really should have named your character something that start with a "B". Just saying...:smalltongue:

That's easy. Just start calling him Brick. :smalltongue:

Worlok
2012-07-14, 11:46 PM
Something stupid accomplished. Bring it on. :smallwink: :smalltongue:

Strawberries
2012-07-15, 12:15 AM
Something stupid accomplished. Bring it on. :smallwink: :smalltongue:

:smalltongue:

Amy really wouldn't disdain a hug right now...or at the very least, her sire raising his eyes to look at her. Way to give her body image issues, Mike. :smalltongue:

Also, daelrog, for our little list, we have

-the smell of paint
-full lenght mirrors
-Madonna's "justify my love" (I checked, it was a top radio hit in 1991), or Madonna's songs in general.
-lime curtains, or the colour lime in general

Not bad, for a couple posts'work :smallwink:

daelrog
2012-07-15, 12:17 AM
@Worlok: Faruq has about five seconds before thigns really turn ugly. He has the letter opener stuck on the wall, the door, the floor to drop to and beg for mercy, of whatever Mr. Clever can up with.

@Strawberries: Good thing that none of those will pop ever ever.:smallamused:

Strawberries
2012-07-15, 12:20 AM
@Strawberries: Good thing that none of those will pop ever ever.:smallamused:

Yeah, I believe you :smalltongue:.

Oh,also, I forgot to ask (and forgot to address it IC, which was quite bad of me)...how hungry is Amy?

daelrog
2012-07-15, 12:33 AM
Just put your blood poitns in my last post. I hadd forgotten to mention it because Amy's actually pretty well fed at the moment.

Strawberries
2012-07-15, 01:09 AM
He didn't flinch when she touched him, but he didn't return the gesture. In truth it was his own shame keeping him from doing so, but his weakness was no comfort to Amy. So much for mr Perfect.



Men. All the same, can't cope with their own messes. :smalltongue:

And Amy is a bit lost and afraid at the moment ( I figure everyone would be) but she'll revert to a deadpan snarker in no time. :smallwink: She needs just a little time to adjust.

Dark Seeker
2012-07-15, 01:13 AM
I think Amy's taking turning into a hideous monster about as well as can be expected. :smallbiggrin:

daelrog
2012-07-15, 01:48 AM
There were three main things that dictated one's embrace.

-Clan
-Mentor background
-Generation

So Erica of the six probably has the most going for her. High generation, high mentor, being of Ventrue. Leads to a right formal embrace (though that depends much about her reaction).

Danielle on the other hand... let's just say things are about to get a lot more interesting for her.

Strawberries
2012-07-15, 02:36 AM
I think Amy's taking turning into a hideous monster about as well as can be expected. :smallbiggrin:

Pretty much, that was what I was aiming for as well. I figured noone would be perfectly fine with it from the beginning...



Danielle on the other hand... let's just say things are about to get a lot more interesting for her.
I'd say :smalltongue:

On a related note, I'm really enjoying all the preludes so far :smallsmile:

Edit: oh,also, if the reason why she yelled at Mike isn't clear because I failed to convey it, I can explain it ooc

Worlok
2012-07-15, 03:43 AM
Faruq has about five seconds before thigns really turn ugly. He has the letter opener stuck on the wall, the door, the floor to drop to and beg for mercy, of whatever Mr. Clever can up with.
Man. Had I known about that five-seconds-frame when I started typing (Almost four fricking hours ago. Curse distractions! :smalleek:), I would have tried to make it shorter. :smallfrown: Anyhow, Faruq didn't so much come up with something as grow even more desperate and go full insane. Let's see what will happen next. :smallbiggrin:

dancrilis
2012-07-15, 05:22 AM
Pft.
Mentor, Hmph. Generation, heh. Clan, ha ... a vampire needs not these things.


... hopefully.

Strawberries
2012-07-15, 05:29 AM
Pft.
Mentor, Hmph. Generation, heh. Clan, ha ... a vampire needs not these things.


... hopefully.

Caitiff, I presume? :smalltongue:

dancrilis
2012-07-15, 05:43 AM
Caitiff, I presume? :smalltongue:

Possibly, but perhaps I am making a more general statement :smallsmile:.

daelrog
2012-07-15, 06:49 AM
Man. Had I known about that five-seconds-frame when I started typing (Almost four fricking hours ago. Curse distractions! :smalleek:), I would have tried to make it shorter. :smallfrown: Anyhow, Faruq didn't so much come up with something as grow even more desperate and go full insane. Let's see what will happen next. :smallbiggrin:

Don't worry. I'll be flexible with things. Now let me check out your prelude thread to see what I have to work with...:smallcool:

Strawberries
2012-07-16, 06:16 AM
Aaaand....done with Amy's prelude, I think, unless daelrog wants to add one last post. :smalltongue: I had a lot of fun: thanks, ST! :smallbiggrin:

daelrog
2012-07-16, 06:36 AM
Nope, I think we're good. 3.5 are done, 2.5 to go! Faruq just needs to feed and have a phone conversation, and Danielle needs to get a little explanation of how the way things are.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-16, 10:36 AM
Pft.
Mentor, Hmph. Generation, heh. Clan, ha ... a vampire needs not these things.


... hopefully.

True when done properly.

I once was in a fairly high power game where high gen was expected so the ST gave normal gen extra points and built a blood mage with Principal Focus of Vitae Infusion who went around with some 30 blood points on his person at all times. Course this was a LARP where we had so much freedom to use and abuse rituals between games it wasn't even funny.

Still would not be an unreasonable starting position if the ST allows more then the baseline rituals in the game (because just one is sillllllllly) and you buy points in Herd.

daelrog
2012-07-16, 10:36 PM
All right, as we near the end of the preludes (I'm hoping to have the last two wrapped up in a day or two), we'll move onto the main thread. We'll meet each other, the Prince, and some of the other NPCs. After that, I'm going to open up the world a lot more to all of you. Some of you, given your Clans, will be expected to do tasks for your superiors, while others are pretty much told to follow the laws and have at it. Each of those with tasks will have freedom to how they go about it. Technically they can snub their elders, but... that will probably cause more problems than it's worth, probably.

As for the PCs interacting with each other, that's up to you guys. Know, that once the preludes are over, my posting rate's going to not be as much as it's been (I've had a lot of free time recently, and I know how important it is to get the start moving quickly), so interacting with each other will also help with letting you be as active as you want.

The overarching theme and goal for once you see the Prince and leave is to establish yourself in the city, and to become accepted by the other kindred. Gain wealth, do favors, eliminate an a common enemy, show a particular niche, earn respect, win against the odds. The manner and way which you do so is entirely up to you.

Oh, and to keep your humanity while you're doing it.:smallamused:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-16, 11:17 PM
I know I for one have been quite impressed with the all the work you've done on these preludes daelrog. Its been a great time so far.

Dark Seeker
2012-07-16, 11:47 PM
I definitely agree with that. It's been great reading all the different scenes. :smallbiggrin:

dancrilis
2012-07-17, 01:42 AM
Yea incredibly well put together.

Strawberries
2012-07-17, 02:00 AM
I join the unanimous chorus of praises. :smalltongue:

I must admit, the character that entertained me the most was Worlok's, for sheer craziness value. Worlok, I'm sad that you didn't decide to play a Malkavian: you would have pulled it off beautifully. :smalltongue:

Thundercracker
2012-07-17, 07:03 AM
Yup, we've got a really strong group here. Especially ST Daelrog. That's a lot of posting in a very short time.

daelrog
2012-07-17, 07:37 AM
To respond to your PM Strawberries, and to address everyone, it's perfectly fine and normal if you want to switch your nature or demeanor during the story as you find out more about your character. You often find out things aobut them you didn't know, and it chances how you see them. Not only this, but it is more than acceptable for characters to change over the course of the game.

So Strawberries, that's no problem at all if that's what you feel.

Strawberries
2012-07-17, 07:52 AM
So Strawberries, that's no problem at all if that's what you feel.

Fantastic, thanks!:smallbiggrin: (and done)

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-17, 10:15 AM
@daelrog:
Speaking of Nature and Demeanor it occurred to me I never asked how flexible you are on using Nature to reclaim Willpower?

Does it have to be a "big" event for the character or if our characters have some free time can we go off and regain a point with some low level Nature affirming activity done for a few hours?

Worlok
2012-07-17, 11:18 AM
I must admit, the character that entertained me the most was Worlok's, for sheer craziness value. Worlok, I'm sad that you didn't decide to play a Malkavian: you would have pulled it off beautifully. :smalltongue:
Haha, thanks! :smallredface: I had actually tried to keep it at least semi-sane, but then my guy is basically an ad-hoc-Brujah when he's off his... medication for a while. So, who knows, maybe he ends up running with the malkie-crowd? :smallwink:

But to add my own to the chorus: I, too, enjoyed what we got so far. Can't wait for the coterie assembling, actually. :smallamused:

EDIT: Also, a belated welcome to my thread, Thunder. :smallbiggrin:

daelrog
2012-07-17, 09:45 PM
I'm going to play willpower by ear. Having no Ravnos in the party makes it a bit less of a valuable currency as it would be otherwise. I would say time, being true to your character's nature despite a situation, being in your character's element, a particularly clever post, things like that will regain willpower. I may change this to make it easier or tougher depending how the game goes.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-17, 10:58 PM
Okay, I ask because I'm decided to make Claire not giving into Frenzy (again) something of a goal for her so loosely planning to spend Will on ensuring at least one round of control or so. Need to economize properly and all.

(Related question the one a night rule? I've always played with it but it is technically optional)

daelrog
2012-07-17, 11:01 PM
Remind me what the one night rule is?

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-17, 11:48 PM
Remind me what the one night rule is?

You get one Willpower restored every night when you wake up. To represent the restoration through resting and natural recovery and so forth.

Probably the simplest way to keep people from ever having to worry about running out.

(Reference, VtM core rulebook revised, pg 137 last bullet point on the page)

Thundercracker
2012-07-18, 12:19 AM
Haha, thanks! :smallredface: I had actually tried to keep it at least semi-sane, but then my guy is basically an ad-hoc-Brujah when he's off his... medication for a while. So, who knows, maybe he ends up running w)th the malkie-crowd? :smallwink:

But to add my own to the chorus: I, too, enjoyed what we got so far. Can't wait for the coterie assembling, actually. :smallamused:

EDIT: Also, a belated welcome to my thread, Thunder. :smallbiggrin:

Belated thanks. FYI, I may be out of commission for the next 18 hours or so.

daelrog
2012-07-18, 12:24 AM
Yes, one point of willpower a night in addition to the other things I mentioned above is fine.

Strawberries
2012-07-18, 09:06 AM
Oh, I was meaning to post this and kept forgetting. From back in the recruitment thread:


As far as Faruq is concerned, chances are that some of the others did at least see him every so often
[...]
same does, however, also go for dodgy convenience scores, grocery shops, burger joints [...]

Worlok, I'll hold you to that: you won't recognize Amy, probably, given her... uhm... extensive makeover :smalltongue:, but the girl is very observant. She will remember having seen you, if you're still alright with it. :smallsmile:

The shop where she (used to) work has no name, but is at the corner between Maple Avenue and Maxfield Road. :smallwink:
Yes, the city has just acquired two named streets. So sue me. :smalltongue:

Worlok
2012-07-18, 10:02 AM
She will remember having seen you, if you're still alright with it. :smallsmile:
Of course. :smallsmile: That's why I checked your backstories and edited mine once or twice, actually:

Throwaway mention of grocery stores: Chance Amy sorta recognises him. :smallsmile:

Throwaway mention of some of AFCo's bank accounts being quite dated: Chance that Claire recalls his name from paperwork. :smallcool:

Having Steve Lincoln as a listed Contact: Chance for interesting run-ins with Rick. :smalltongue:

He is, after all, supposed to be this guy whom half the city sort of think they've met before. :smallbiggrin:

And ultimately: "Wear a veil and say you're Muslim" might be good advice for fledgling Nosferatu, don't you think? :smallwink:

Strawberries
2012-07-18, 10:19 AM
And ultimately: "Wear a veil and say you're Muslim" might be good advice for fledgling Nosferatu, don't you think? :smallwink:

Ahahahah.... :smallbiggrin: see, I didn't think about that. Why didn't I think about that?

I'll stick with Obfuscate, I think... but that could really be an awesome idea. Feel free to propose it IC, should the occasion ever arise. :smallwink:

Worlok
2012-07-18, 10:31 AM
Feel free to propose it IC, should the occasion ever arise. :smallwink:
You just know something's gonna go horribly wrong. :smalltongue: (But, big secret? Been planning on that since Berlin. :smallbiggrin:)

dancrilis
2012-07-18, 01:09 PM
Well I doubt that Danielle would know any of you, she might have met Rick when involved in missing person groups if he was hired as a investigator, Amy might have served her something, Faruq may have sold drugs outside her school, and Claire may have attended a Piano bar where she played.

But it is unlikely that she would remember the individual faces and names unless she had a particular reason to, she for example didn't remember the name of a kid in her school when he was standing right in front of her talking to her, or the name of a girl she beat up a few years ago.

Thinking about it this might make her somewhat of a jerk as she could remember them if she tried, and she likely would remember then if they were missing people instead of right in front of her.

Any of you who feel that you want to know her feel free, just don't expect her to remember you.

Strawberries
2012-07-18, 02:09 PM
Well I doubt that Danielle would know any of you, [...]
Amy might have served her something

Uhm... I don't see it as very plausible, but just because the shop where Amy works is supposed to be in a bad neighborhood... not the place someone would go out of their way to visit.
With Faruq,it made more sense, but just because the guy is, well, a stoner, among other things. :smalltongue: Him being around that sort of neighborhood makes a lot more sense in my mind. :smallwink:

dancrilis
2012-07-18, 03:25 PM
Fair enough but she has worked with missing person groups and wouldn't the type to be afraid of the bad part of town for canvassing or asking questions, but yea it would be rare enough.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-18, 05:37 PM
Well if Heavensworth is defined as a city it is not like anyone one has to know one another.

(Though I figure Evaz and Lady Black Box know each other by reputation, since a big thing in the 80s would be local BBSs. Like run of out of a guy house so everybody just had to make local calls local. So can't be that many hackers even for a West Coast town. Though I'm planning to play it that Claire wouldn't know Amy so Strawberry if you want to play this angle give me a namedrop or one of us should bring up computers.)

Strawberries
2012-07-18, 05:52 PM
Well if Heavensworth is defined as a city anyone one has to know one another.

Uhm... I'm not really sure of what you mean. Or better said, I think you mean the opposite of what I understood from this sentence. Could you please rephrase so I can understand better? :smallsmile:


Though I'm planning to play it that Claire wouldn't know Amy so Strawberry if you want to play this angle give me a namedrop or one of us should bring up computers.)


Yeah, I'm on board with Claire and Amy not knowing each other in real life, but having often dealt with each other on the web.
Well, I'm pretty sure computers will be mentioned at a certain point...:smalltongue:. And also, I don't know if you've read my prelude, but the Nosferatu pretty much all call her 'Evaz'. Her sire has been the only one to use 'Amy', and very rarely. So, namedrop is probably a go, too. :smallbiggrin:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-18, 06:16 PM
Uhm... I'm not really sure of what you mean. Or better said, I think you mean the opposite of what I understood from this sentence. Could you please rephrase so I can understand better? :smallsmile:

You ever do this thing where your brain runs faster then your typing and you cut off half a sentence because your brain was already past it and writing the end of the sentence

So corrected it should read: Well if Heavensworth is defined as a city it is not like anyone one has to know one another.


Yeah, I'm on board with Claire and Amy not knowing each other in real life, but having often dealt with each other on the web.
Well, I'm pretty sure computers will be mentioned at a certain point...:smalltongue:. And also, I don't know if you've read my prelude, but the Nosferatu pretty much all call her 'Evaz'. Her sire has been the only one to use 'Amy', and very rarely. So, namedrop is probably a go, too. :smallbiggrin:


I have seen that, so I'll just play things as they happen. I'm just leaving open that they might keep it for in-clan use and minimizing assumptions.

Strawberries
2012-07-18, 06:31 PM
You ever do this thing where your brain runs faster then your typing and you cut off half a sentence because your brain was already past it and writing the end of the sentence

Pretty much all the time. :smalltongue: I know exactly how you feel.


So corrected it should read: Well if Heavensworth is defined as a city it is not like anyone one has to know one another.

That's what I had understood... But it never hurts to ask. :smallwink:



I have seen that, so I'll just play things as they happen. I'm just leaving open that they might keep it for in-clan use and minimizing assumptions.

Oh, that could be a possibility I haven't thought of. Alright, we'll play it by ear :smallsmile:

Thundercracker
2012-07-19, 09:12 AM
By the by, greatest line of the game so far imo:


Or else, the Hamas are the bravest retards on this planet.

had me literally lol'ing.

Worlok
2012-07-19, 09:45 AM
By the by, greatest line of the game so far imo:


Or else, the Hamas are the bravest retards on this planet.

had me literally lol'ing.
Grea... Greatest in the GAME??? :smalleek: Hot-damn, you flatter me. :smallredface: Thanks a lot. Always happy to entertain. :smallsmile:

Thundercracker
2012-07-19, 10:03 AM
What does Josef Kirsch look like (hair/eye color)? I couldn't find it in his description, just that he was over 6' tall.

Thundercracker
2012-07-19, 10:05 AM
Grea... Greatest in the GAME??? :smalleek: Hot-damn, you flatter me. :smallredface: Thanks a lot. Always happy to entertain. :smallsmile:

Lots of great lines from everyone, but this one actually made me laugh. :)

daelrog
2012-07-19, 09:19 PM
Good question Thunder. He appears in his mid-forties to fifties. Dark ahir with some hints of grey. Clean shaven. Light grey eyes. He stands up perfectly straight. Well proportioned. The kind of man who has probably grown more handsome as he's gotten older. No glasses.

As my signature suggests, I'll have limited internet for the next few days. We'll take as long as needs be to finish up Faruq. I'll try to start working on the entrance to see the Prince. What I'll probably do is split it up into a few big sections, cause there's going to be a lot. Most the city's kindred will be present, there's a lot to describe in the scenery, not to mention the whole process of the Prince listing off the six traditions, and Danielle's trial of being an unliving embodiment of being at least one broken tradition.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-20, 05:12 PM
I must say I'm looking forward to this Prince.

I mean a Nos is running the city. I figure he's either got to be so vain with Mask he makes the Ventrue and Toreador go "Dude too far..." or a massive troll that makes everyone meet in something sewer/dungeon like so he can laugh while all the 'civilized" clans struggle to not get gunk on their thousand dollar suits.

(At least that's what I'd do...)

dancrilis
2012-07-20, 06:07 PM
I think it would depend on how secure he feels in his power, making people meet in the sewers might make people more likely to oppose him, and using Mask of a Thousand Faces might make him look weak and isolate his own clan.

Also he might not like the the idea of living in the sewers when he can have a penthouse, and he might not like the idea of risking a botch/failure every scene and looking bad.

But we will see, hopefully Danielle will be able to avoid getting herself killed.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-20, 06:41 PM
Oh he can have a penthouse, but what Prince merges the main Elysium with their Haven? Maybe if this was a Dark Ages game sure (Elysiums don't grow on trees) and it was a rather nice castle, but modern spaces suitable for social gatherings aren't terribly good to live in.

Actually piecing together things, given a recent elevation the premiere Elysium probably is a hold over from our dead Ventrue.

Thundercracker
2012-07-20, 08:49 PM
I'm just looking forward to meeting the other characters.

*pokes worlok*
Faruq's move. Then Josef can answer he them questions three.

Daelrog, going forward, does it make sense to handle private interactions with npc's via pm? For example, if Erica wants to ask Josef what he thinks about Faruq, Worlok might not want to be privy to that info ooc. That can get confusing for you though, so I understand if we want to lump them all into one thread. What's usually standard in PbP?

Worlok
2012-07-20, 09:24 PM
Typically "posting it and telling the other guy not to read it", which I'd be okay with and adhere to. :smallcool:

Now, to actually post. :smallbiggrin:

EDIT: Posted now. :smallsmile:

Strawberries
2012-07-20, 11:29 PM
I mean a Nos is running the city. I figure he's either got to be so vain with Mask he makes the Ventrue and Toreador go "Dude too far..." or a massive troll that makes everyone meet in something sewer/dungeon like so he can laugh while all the 'civilized" clans struggle to not get gunk on their thousand dollar suits.


I admit, that made me laugh a lot. But I think Dancrilis is right, if the guy goes around under Mask all of the time, he would probably lose all respect from his own clan... I know he would lose Amy's respect, for one. :smalltongue:

Also,I have to say, when I initially crafted Amy as a vampire, I had a very different mental picture of her sire/mentor: I was imagining someone a tad more aloof, a tad more old and a lot more confident in himself. But I love how Mike turned out: the guy is sweet (am I allowed to use the adjective 'sweet' when talking about a Nosferatu? :smalltongue:), and I kinda like the dynamics between them so far: Amy has to reassure him almost as much as he has to reassure her. That's something I would never have thought on my own, but it's really interesting. Thanks, daelrog! :smallsmile:

daelrog
2012-07-21, 05:40 AM
Interesting guesses everyone has.

As for private stuff, if everyone's cool with it, I'd prefer to simply spoiler the message. Maybe put bold letters stating who is the intended PCs/NPCs meant for it.

daelrog
2012-07-22, 12:13 AM
The IC thread.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250280

Dark Seeker
2012-07-22, 01:26 AM
Because I've forgotten, how big is Havensworth, population wise? Something like 400k?

daelrog
2012-07-22, 01:28 AM
Probably about half a million total.

Strawberries
2012-07-23, 02:26 AM
Also, screw it, tempted to blow Presence for a first impression now. Should I, folks, what say you? :smallbiggrin:


Save it for the Prince? :smalltongue::smallwink:

daelrog
2012-07-23, 02:33 AM
Save it for the Prince? :smalltongue::smallwink:

Yes, let's start using disciplines on the most powerful kindred in the city, in front of most of other kindred who reside there. That won't backfire.:smalltongue:

Strawberries
2012-07-23, 02:35 AM
That won't backfire.:smalltongue:

Never said it wouldn't :smalltongue::smallbiggrin:.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-23, 02:41 AM
I personally totally support Faruq trying out some Presence in Elysium on the Prince with Primogen present.

It will be glorious.

Strawberries
2012-07-23, 02:44 AM
I personally totally support Faruq trying out some Presence in Elysium on the Prince with Primogen present.

It will be glorious.

Oh, me too.... I'll just conveniently be on the other side of the room, far, far away from him when that happens, 'kay? Not for any particular reason, mind, just to...admire the decor. :smalltongue:

Worlok
2012-07-23, 03:25 AM
Yes, let's start using disciplines on the most powerful kindred in the city, in front of most of other kindred who reside there. That won't backfire.:smalltongue:
Here's what I'm getting, man: Faruq doesn't have the slightest idea of what he can do, superpowers-wise, nor how to do it. His best bet in this is a sudden, instinctive grasp, and that's gonna happen once the important stuff is on the line. Even a Prince will have to understand a neonate that has not been given any other advice than "Be quiet, mind your manners, be polite, leave a good impression!" trying to work with the tools he's been given, especially when he just found out he has them that very same instant and thinks they can help him accomplish that. Also, I mean, the dude has been acting remarkably calm and patient up until here, now, hasn't he? :smallamused:

Strawberries
2012-07-23, 03:34 AM
Ops... sorry Soras, we posted togheter. Amending my IC post accordingly in a moment.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-23, 03:36 AM
Worlok I think IC it makes perfect sense for Faruq to try it. It totally matches his worming, not quite sensible, game playing style.


Ops... sorry Soras, we posted togheter. Amending my IC post accordingly in a moment.

I had that happen to me earlier too. Preview button seems to be our friend for this game.

daelrog
2012-07-23, 03:39 AM
No worries, no one's getting killed in Elysium tonight unless they straight up attack someone.

Strawberries
2012-07-23, 03:44 AM
IC post amended. And yes, jokes aside, if the use of Disciplines is instinctual, I quite agree that what Worlok said makes sense.

Personally, I'm fluffing Amy's disciplines half and half: I'd like the more advanced used of Obfuscate (Mask of a Thousand faces, namely), to be taught, because it makes more sense in my mind. The basic obfuscate and especially her...other discipline (which I'm keeping as a surprise :smallwink:) should instead be instinctual. I'm not going to use them on the Prince, though, you can rest easy... unless of very specifical triggers. :smalltongue:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-23, 04:58 AM
I know I've never seen a hard rule on Disciplines and learning them myself. And not like a single rule makes all that much sense for everyone. The physical three of course work fine, but its a little hard to justify Thaum as some kind of innate skill for a fledgling. Though at the same time sheer convenience demands some sensibility be sacked.

Thundercracker
2012-07-23, 05:16 AM
Personally I think unconscious use of presence in this case is fitting, but once we "get the hang" of using disciplines, they shouldn't accidentally activate.

Why don't we do it on a case-by-case basis until it's no longer relevant? It's not like we're going to be sans disciplines for very long. Daelrog will have final say over everything anyway.

Strawberries
2012-07-23, 09:38 AM
Why don't we do it on a case-by-case basis until it's no longer relevant? It's not like we're going to be sans disciplines for very long. Daelrog will have final say over everything anyway.

Absolutely seconded. :smallsmile: It's just fun to debate the theory of the thing. :smallwink:

Strawberries
2012-07-23, 05:09 PM
*reads over Worlock's post*


This thought reassured him some, seeing how maybe he'd finally get a chance to plead his case in front of a jury these vampire kindred would respect. Their all's cases, come to think of it. Other than Ricky Bogarto over there, he was the only rooster in the yard here, after all.

:smallconfused: I'm not actually sure of wht you mean here...wait.

Wait, wait, wait. Is Faruq implying that he's got to take responsibility for the girls, being male and all? Because, oooh boy. If you pull something like that in the open with Amy, she is going to be seriously pissed off, I'm warning you. :smalltongue:

Worlok
2012-07-23, 05:10 PM
Not so much that as he believes to be the only one who's actually on top of things and has seen through the vampire's illusions. But machismo does factor into it, yes. Quite strongly so, in fact. I already warned y'all back in chargen, though. :smalltongue:

Strawberries
2012-07-23, 05:18 PM
But machismo does factor into it, yes. Quite strongly, so, in fact. I already warned you on chargen, though. :smalltongue:

Tought so. :smallbiggrin: I don't have a problem with it, Amy most probably will. She's lived alone and dealt with crap alone since she was 17, after all, last thing she needs is a 'manly' man that thinks he has to protect her.

Just as a fair warning. :smalltongue:

Dark Seeker
2012-07-23, 05:20 PM
We're going to need to start a count to see how many kindred Faraq causes to frenzy.:smallwink:

Worlok
2012-07-23, 05:22 PM
Tought so. :smallbiggrin: I don't have a problem with it, Amy most probably will. She's lived alone and dealt with crap alone since she was 17, after all, last thing she needs is a 'manly' man that thinks he has to protect her.

Just as a fair warning. :smalltongue:
So noted, and appreciated, yes. :smalltongue: Though in case it would assure her any, it is not so much "protecting" as "trying to act like a boss in front of a given number of girls in order to shock and awe try and impress them". :smallbiggrin:

Strawberries
2012-07-23, 05:24 PM
We're going to need to start a count to see how many kindred Faraq causes to frenzy.:smallwink:

:smalltongue:

Thought, cometo think about it, Amy may not be included in his definition of "girl". Which would actually come as a relief. :smallwink:


So noted, and appreciated, yes. :smalltongue: Though in case it would assure her any, it is not so much "protecting" as "trying to act like a boss in front of a given number of girls in order to shock and awe try and impress them". :smallbiggrin:

For some characters, high school never ends. :smalltongue:

Now that I think about it, how old is Faruq, again?

Worlok
2012-07-23, 05:28 PM
:smalltongue:

Thought, cometo think about it, Amy may not be included in his definition of "girl". Which would actually come as a relief. :smallwink:
Not yet, or rather, not yet in his definition of "attractive girl", which kind of is what makes the "boss"-sense tingle, here. :smalltongue:


For some characters, high school never ends. :smalltongue:

Now that I think about it, how old is Faruq, again?
Twenty. With a fake passport that says twenty-three. :smallcool:

Also, Dark Seeker, I'd hope there's no actual need for that. :smallwink:

JonRG
2012-07-23, 05:38 PM
We're going to need to start a count to see how many kindred Faraq causes to frenzy.:smallwink:

He could already be up to 1 with his sire, though she may just have maintained her holding pattern of rampant stupidity. :smalltongue:

dancrilis
2012-07-24, 02:25 AM
He could already be up to 1 with his sire, though she may just have maintained her holding pattern of rampant stupidity. :smalltongue:

Don't know about that, she tried to make it alright for him and he kept trying to cause her issues, I am pretty sure if she had her way she would not have embraced him.
She kind of got dealt a bad hand.

daelrog
2012-07-24, 05:33 AM
Don't know about that, she tried to make it alright for him and he kept trying to cause her issues, I am pretty sure if she had her way she would not have embraced him.
She kind of got dealt a bad hand.

And I think my last post proves you correct dancrilis. Very tough business for a kindred who's responsibility recklessly wants her dead. We'll have to see how things play out this night, and the coming nights.

Worlok
2012-07-24, 07:07 PM
Say, from fledgling ST to acting STs: Daelrog, dancrilis, how do you intend to handle experience gain in your games, like, Kiev and this one? I'm kinda going to run one later, and seeing how I'm a little stumped and we're currently in the phase between updates on both of them, I thought I'd ask you now - 'cause I really would like to know how you work over such matters online, seeing how the "Storytellers should award about (as many) for attendance and participation" clause and other such things are kinda hard to implement and all. :smallredface:

Sorry if this comes off as off-topic or rude, not gonna threadjack or anything. Just thought the frame kinda fitting for it.

daelrog
2012-07-24, 10:21 PM
No, that's a fair question. I'll be giving a modest amount of XP after the night is concluded. I'll give XP in small doses (most of the time between 3-7 exp). If we get to a point where everyone has established themselves, threats have been dealt with, etc, everyone will get a bit larger amount of exp, and some freebies to spend.

Backgrounds will be earned (and lost) through roleplay and/or freebies in between time skips.

I'm also considering giving a few people merits and flaws based on tonight. I may give freebies or extra experience to those who gianed flaws as all of them were based on good roleplaying, or things I pushed onto the character.

Worlok
2012-07-25, 07:15 AM
Sounds good. Not too much, and not too little, and the kind of standard you would need in PbP. Alright, I think I'll take some notes from that. Thanks. :smallbiggrin:

Strawberries
2012-07-25, 07:40 AM
Does Faruq's count as "reasonably high perception"?

I think everything about Faruq counts as "reasonably high" (http://instantrimshot.com/).

I know. I'm ashamed of myself for the cheap joke. I'll go hide in a corner for a while, now. :smalltongue:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-25, 08:14 AM
I interpreted "reasonably high" as being 4 Dots in Perception personally.

JonRG
2012-07-25, 10:06 AM
I think reasonably high would be 3 dots, but that's just me.

Strawberries
2012-07-25, 10:19 AM
Well, Daelrog did say "notably high"... :smalltongue:

Amy is at four dots, just FYI, but ultimately, it is Daelrog's call. :smallwink:

JonRG
2012-07-25, 11:48 AM
Oh, well, notably high is definitely 4+. :smalltongue:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-25, 03:09 PM
An argument could also be made for something like a Perception+Empathy (reading people afterall) since its reading people, just wouldn't be automatic. I may have Claire start doing some of those.

Worlok
2012-07-25, 07:05 PM
I think everything about Faruq counts as "reasonably high".

I know. I'm ashamed of myself for the cheap joke. I'll go hide in a corner for a while, now. :smalltongue:
No need for that. It goes to show that he has everyone exactly where he wants them :smallwink: Also, I enjoyed the laugh. :smallbiggrin:


Oh, well, notably high is definitely 4+.
Got it backwards there: 4+ is definitely notably high. :smalltongue:

Also, a question to our esteemed ST: Do our characters actually know the (precise) date and time? I don't think it's been mentioned so far, but it would be good to have a rough idea of the day on which they were embraced. Mainly asking because I kinda imagine Faruq as the type to occasionally watch the news, and you can always make interesting references out of those when in... historical settings like this one. :smallconfused:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-25, 07:51 PM
I'm not aware of closer then the month thought I've kinda inferred it to be early in September myself.

daelrog
2012-07-25, 07:58 PM
If I'm correct, Danielle is close to graduating high school, making it Spring. Let's say it is April 11, a Wednesday.

Yes, I meant 4 dots of perception when I said notably high. Pick and choose a couple for three dots. Two dots or one and you see a bunch of scary people.:smallamused:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-25, 08:36 PM
Its spring afterall?

Umm can I enact a plan to weasel a doctorate for Claire afterall.

Thundercracker
2012-07-25, 08:39 PM
I was under the impression it was February, but April is fine too.

Worlok
2012-07-25, 09:25 PM
Long as it ain't October. Anyhow, good to know, that is. :smallsmile:

JonRG
2012-07-25, 10:21 PM
Its spring afterall?

Umm can I enact a plan to weasel a doctorate for Claire afterall.

If Claire's at the end of her post-graduate education, she should be fully in the dissertation phase. All she'd need to do is submit her dissertation and defend it. :smallwink:

Thundercracker
2012-07-25, 10:49 PM
confusion reigns in TC's brains.

the boy is henry sanderson, tremere?
the goldmouth fatty is sean loveless of torreador?
gaunt n' greasy is cassidy of clan malkavian?

daelrog
2012-07-25, 10:50 PM
confusion reigns in TC's brains.

the boy is henry sanderson, tremere?
the goldmouth fatty is sean loveless of torreador?
gaunt n' greasy is cassidy of clan malkavian?

That is correct.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-25, 10:57 PM
Heh daelrog that turn of events was great by the way. I suppose depending on what Rogan does Claire will have something to put against him


If Claire's at the end of her post-graduate education, she should be fully in the dissertation phase. All she'd need to do is submit her dissertation and defend it. :smallwink:

Oh yes and I've given the matter some thought too.

She's in the middle of writing an OS to demonstrate several coding philosophies as a sort of hands-on practical thesis. With accompanying papers and such. Since Doctorates are supposed to advance their fields it seemed a good idea for Comp Sci.

I can slide that between "in progress" and "final debugging" easily enough though. This greatly simplifies matters since she doesn't have to maintain the illusion of being a student for nearly as long.

daelrog
2012-07-25, 11:15 PM
Well, I figured there were at least four Promogen and several others who wanted it. However, Rogan was the most likely to threaten and bluster the most for it.


Now that we're under way a bit, I'll share with you all some of the thoughts behind the preludes. More than anything, my inspiration for most characters was "how can we make this a little harder?"

For example, I wasn't going to give Faruq the benefit of having his close allies be his Clan. Way too easy. After reading up a bit I saw that Clan Assamite and Ventrue do have a heated rivalry since the Dark Ages, though it's mostly subsided by now, seemed too good an opportunity to pass up.

Also for Amy, her whole internet date was too good to pass up. I already had Claire doing the whole meeting a stranger and gettign abducted, so Amy got a bit more history. As for Mike having no confidence... well, how many Nosferatu who overuse mask of a thousand faces are?

Claire was pretty straightforward to do. It took me by surprise when Claire started to dig Rogan, but then again Rogan is sort of a tall, dark, powerful, and handsome man.

Danielle was the only one without the mentor background, so she automatically got the Jackal prelude. Someone's sire was getting killed.

Erica was my attempt to make at least one polite embrace. Her generation, her clan, her dots in mentor, even her backgroudn suggested that unlike the others, no torture, no violence, no abductions.

And then there was Rick. I wanted someone to run afoul of Harry O'Fallen. And come on, who doesn't want to mess with the good guy in the oWoD? However, Rick did handle the whole thing well considering, and as a Tremere, he did get some of the same benefits that Erica did.

JonRG
2012-07-25, 11:43 PM
She's in the middle of writing an OS to demonstrate several coding philosophies as a sort of hands-on practical thesis. With accompanying papers and such. Since Doctorates are supposed to advance their fields it seemed a good idea for Comp Sci.

That's... not really what doctoral dissertations are about. One doesn't just advance the field, but contributes to the sum of its knowledge. As written, Claire's just demonstrating mastery of extant theories and eating up a lot of time with this monumental coding effort.

If you're looking for some ideas, hit this page (http://www.cs.unc.edu/Publications/Dissertations.html) and search for 1990. :smallwink:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-26, 12:31 AM
That's... not really what doctoral dissertations are about. One doesn't just advance the field, but contributes to the sum of its knowledge. As written, Claire's just demonstrating mastery of extant theories and eating up a lot of time with this monumental coding effort.

If you're looking for some ideas, hit this page (http://www.cs.unc.edu/Publications/Dissertations.html) and search for 1990. :smallwink:

Not when its meant as an argument for how a monolithic kernel structure can be coded to be more efficient and flexible with regards to upgrades and modifications.

IE advancing coding concepts that can be used to make computers run better because their OS is designed to be less ponderous.

Thank you for the link though.

daelrog
2012-07-26, 12:50 AM
Worlok, if you want to overhear Quenton's whisper, roll for it.

Perception + Alertness, difficulty 7.

One success he knows Quenton said something.
Two successes knows Quenton is talking about Faruq.
Three or more he hears it.

Worlok
2012-07-26, 01:13 AM
Huh. A botch. Wat do?

dancrilis
2012-07-26, 02:02 AM
1 success it looks like to me.

Strawberries
2012-07-26, 02:24 AM
Also for Amy, her whole internet date was too good to pass up. I already had Claire doing the whole meeting a stranger and gettign abducted, so Amy got a bit more history.

The internet date was there precisely for that reason, so that I expected. I didn't expect the dead reporter, though.


As for Mike having no confidence... well, how many Nosferatu who overuse mask of a thousand faces are?

Didn't think her sire would be the kind to overuse it, and I already know Amy will be very different in this regard. Well, I've found one of Amy's goals in the story, it seems. Convincing her sire to grow a spine. :smalltongue:

daelrog
2012-07-26, 02:40 AM
The internet date was there precisely for that reason, so that I expected. I didn't expect the dead reporter, though.



Didn't think her sire would be the kind to overuse it, and I already know Amy will be very different in this regard. Well, I've found one of Amy's goals in the story, it seems. Convincing her sire to grow a spine. :smalltongue:

The dead reporter? Oh yeah, we couldn't let the date go well, could we?:smallbiggrin:


So this trial should be a good chance for everyone to take notes. Let's see how the Primogen feel about it.

Rogan: "I'm a big, tough Gangrel who's all about strength. This girl's weak and a liability."

Hayden: "My childer's dead because of Al and this girl. They both can be damned."

Henry: "Why should we be burdened with this problem? Let others handle it and wipe our hands clean?"

Sean: "Ooh, this is terribly fun!"

Josef: No opinion given yet.

Cassidy: *Stares*

EDIT: And yeah, I think I saw the rolls you had. Didn't you have a 7, 9, and 1, and a couple small nubmers that weren't 1? That would be one success. So all he knows is that Quenton is whispering stuff to his childer, which seems natural enough.

Strawberries
2012-07-26, 03:33 AM
“Are we allowed to say something?” Because she has something to say, make no mistake about it. If she’s holding her tongue is just because she’s afraid of putting Mike into troubles.

Sorry, I realised I didn't make my IC post very clear. This last question is whispered to Mike, too, not said aloud.

daelrog
2012-07-26, 03:40 AM
I figured as much. You ninja'd me, but I edited a response in to my last post.

Strawberries
2012-07-26, 04:47 AM
And on that cliffhanger, I'll have to leave for today. I've been working for longer than is healthy, and do desperately need some shut-eye. Hope to catch y'all soon enough to continue, though. :smallredface:

Sleep well! And just so you know, if you're about to do something completely brave and foolish, Amy will have your back. It seems we have two honorary Brujah when they make us lose our temper :smalltongue:smallwink:

JonRG
2012-07-26, 10:13 AM
@Worlok: Nines Rodriguez would approve. d(^_^)z

He's the guy at the beginning of VtM Bloodlines who shouts "This is bull****!" when Prince LaCroix is about to sentence your character to death.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/146/8/f/nines_rodriguez_by_malkavian_primogen-d48d2td.jpg

Badass.

Strawberries
2012-07-26, 10:32 AM
@Worlok: Nines Rodriguez would approve. d(^_^)z


Just Worlock? :smallmad: Amy is more or less saying the same thing, you know? :smalltongue:

Granted, just under her breath at the moment, but give her another five minutes of this, and she's definitely not going to hold her tongue anymore. :smallwink:

JonRG
2012-07-26, 11:22 AM
Just Worlock? :smallmad:

Sorry, gotta brashly interrupt the Prince to get on Nines' level.

But Amy's cool too. Here, have a Damsel. :smallbiggrin:

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2007/345/6/8/Damsel_by_Ashka_marauder.jpg

Strawberries
2012-07-26, 11:30 AM
Sorry, gotta brashly interrupt the Prince to get on Nines' level.

I know, I know. I was kidding. :smalltongue:


But Amy's cool too. Here, have a Damsel.

Cool, thanks! :smallcool:

Strawberries
2012-07-26, 10:03 PM
Aww, that's a nay on Worlok's rolls, I suppose? Because I really really would have enjoyed seeing that intimidation roll work. That would have been EPIC.

Worlok
2012-07-26, 10:08 PM
Dang, man. Lost his tongue and had his double-ten discarded. Shame about the roll result, I guess. The long-ass speech is mainly due to his speaking very rapidly, just to clear this up, like basically "You have ten seconds to finish a rehearsed presentation that was supposed to have five minutes more to be given"-style. But I guess that's kinda redundant info, now. Not yet exactly sure what to do after this, at any rate. :smallconfused:

At least, I guess Senor Rodriguez did righteously guide my crazy-hand. That's something, there.

JonRG
2012-07-26, 10:11 PM
Aww, that's a nay on Worlok's rolls, I suppose? Because I really really would have enjoyed seeing that intimidation roll work. That would have been EPIC.

With that many successes, I'd have expected something to happen.

Ah well. Good on the Prince for keeping the peace. As we all know, assault and mutilation of a newbie is a great way to keep the troops on point. :smallamused:

daelrog
2012-07-26, 10:16 PM
Well, I think the rolls were sadly reversed of what would have helped Faruq. He wasn't going to intimidate Flat Face with anything short of an assault rifle. A kindred who specializes in beating the crap out of people isn't going to be intimidated by a newly embraced kindred. That, and Flat Face is more of a doer, not a thinker.

Sadly, the roll of making the Prince reconsider, since Jean does seem to be in a listening mood, wasn't enough.

Strawberries
2012-07-26, 10:24 PM
Sadly, the roll of making the Prince reconsider, since Jean does seem to be in a listening mood, wasn't enough.

Oh, in that case, Amy should probably have rolled sonething, then. I didn't think about it mainly because of being unfamiliar with the system, but she was going to make a plea...

JonRG
2012-07-26, 10:32 PM
If Faruq was trying to Intimidate the entire room (which was no doubt the source of the address), might not other Kindred have been affected by his splendid results? Heck, even the Prince could have been impressed and backed off a bit. If nothing else, it'd at least be comforting to watch Melanie shrink down in her seat, terror written across her prim, little face.

daelrog
2012-07-26, 10:43 PM
Does it make any sense though? This is why I put roleplaying above the dice rolls 9 out of 10 times.

A person, just embraced, tried to intimidate, lie to, and coerce a Nosferatu over 500 years old. He's trying to, unarmed, backing away, and talking a million words a minute, stop a bloodthirsty brute who's not even listening.

And for your OOC knowlede, Melanie is right afraid of Faruq. She thinks he'll get them both killed, however she's had intensive training not to show emotion when she chooses so. Those kindred in the room who are reading auras can see past the calm act though.

EDIT: And for storytelling sake, I think this is doing a lot more for Faruq's character, learning his limits, being vicitmized, starting from rock bottom, is a lot more rewarding than "Oh he rolled well, Faruq intimidates the bruiser twice his size and cows the Prince." Personally, I can cheer for Faruq as he picks himself back up. I can't cheer for the character who rolled well with X dots in manipulation and Y dots in intimidation, and who learns the lesson that he can make kindred several times more powerful than himself cower in fear.

Strawberries
2012-07-26, 10:54 PM
Does it make any sense though? This is why I put roleplaying above the dice rolls 9 out of 10 times.

Personally, my point still kind of stands. I feel Amy's actions could have had a chance to work... So probably, a roll was required. Next time please someone tell me OOC.


If nothing else, it'd at least be comforting to watch Melanie shrink down in her seat, terror written across her prim, little face.

:smallamused:

Though, I would also have enjoyed Amy managing to save his ass... which would have left him indebted with her and, by extension, with the Nosferatu. That would have been a good source of amusement.

Edit: Also, the prince wouldn't necessarly have to be intimidated. Amused would have worked rather well, too

daelrog
2012-07-26, 11:06 PM
Personally, my point still kind of stands. I feel Amy's actions could have had a chance to work... So probably, a roll was required. Next time please someone tell me OOC.

I will take that into account next time.

Strawberries
2012-07-26, 11:12 PM
I will take that into account next time.

Okay, what about a compromise, here? I'll roll, and if for some miracle I suceed, I'll post IC making a very last attempt, and we can say that Flat Face didn't manage to do that much damage before the Prince stops him. I ask because I think the situation is otherwise going to get a bit difficult for Worlok, in a way that would compromise us having fun all together.

Worlok
2012-07-26, 11:17 PM
Don't you worry about it, Strawbs. If nothing else, it's a challenge. I can make the guy soldier on... without his tongue... for a little while. Not happy about it, but by this point, everyone who already posted after me would have to edit their posts to accomodate her succeeding, and I don't like causing trouble for people.

But thank you for the effort. And you too, Nyarai. :smallsmile:

Also, no worries, Dark. Not taken personally at all. OOC, that is. :smalltongue:

Strawberries
2012-07-26, 11:23 PM
But thank you for the effort. :smallsmile:

Don't thank me, it's a way to get you under my evil influence :smalltongue:

Or, as I could say exaggerating my Italian accent "So you will owe me a...favor, si? For next time we do business together" :smalltongue:

Kidding, Amy is a good girl. She's doing it because she thinks it's right.

I on the other hand... :smalltongue:

daelrog
2012-07-26, 11:28 PM
Okay, what about a compromise, here? I'll roll, and if for some miracle I suceed, I'll post IC making a very last attempt, and we can say that Flat Face didn't manage to do that much damage before the Prince stops him. I ask because I think the situation is otherwise going to get a bit difficult for Worlok, in a way that would compromise us having fun all together.

As Worlok said, I don't think it's too big of a deal. Worlok's shown to be a great roleplayer, and is willing to make choices detrimental to his character because that's what Faruq's nature is. I think the scene fits perfectly the two genres I put forward for the game: horror and humanity/lackthereof.

I like Faruq as a character a lot, but I think at the heart of my appreciation of Faruq is that he suffers consequences for his actions as well. I look forward to seeing Faruq grow from his second horrific ordeal of the night. Whatever direction he takes is up to Worlok and it'll be interesting to see.

Thundercracker
2012-07-26, 11:37 PM
Never a dull day @ clan Ventrue. We'll have to wait and see what Kirsch has in store for you. Then there's Melanie... oh we've got a wonderful inter-family dynamic going on already. :p

dancrilis
2012-07-27, 12:05 AM
Well I am not a rules lawyer* ... but for the hell of it ignoring everything else (as listed by daelrog) the rolls do seem to be handled correctly per the rulebook.

On page 118 the final paragraph of appearance before the dots are described indicates that any social dice pool is limited to the characters appearance rating, for both the first meeting and also meetings where appearance is important.
This certainly seemed like a situation where first impressions count, and also where appearances would be reviewed as important - particularly for new kindred (not so much for the elders).

This leaves Faruq with somewhere less then 6 dice total (and likely more to be 2 or 3).
If we call it appearance three and take from the front of the dice rolls, he got 2, 9, 5 in a contested intimidate roll with the willpower of his target or the strength+intimidate (bonuses for potence) of whoever might be affected (as determined by daelrog).
And 6,4,2 for the presence roll (which would not generate a success).

Amy similarly had 0 dice to grab the attention of the room and rolled 0 dice for this.

Rules wise this seems fine to me.

*I used to be a Rules Lawyer I just grow out of it - kindof ... maybe ... fine, fine I have relapses ok ... happy now.

daelrog
2012-07-27, 12:11 AM
As soon as Danielle accepts the Traditions (or not???), people can feel free to mingle for a bit. With the end of the trial that ends of 'plot' I had to get you all embraced, and get you to meet each other.

All of the kindred in the room and the ghouls in the back are free game (and each other of course) of who to approach. There are also servants moving around too.

As for how you want your character's story to go, I'll leave a lot of freedom to you. If you have questions/concerns/ideas you want to work out with me, feel free to PM me.

Strawberries
2012-07-27, 12:22 AM
I'm the last person that can argue about the rules, since this is my first game and all, so this is not me arguing, it's just asking clarification for something that seems very strange to me. So I can know for next time I'm in a similar situation.



Amy similarly had 0 dice to grab the attention of the room

Amy was trying to gain the attention of the prince, who is a nosferatu. Does trying to make a good first impression on a Nosferatu really depend on an appearance roll? Because that is... odd.

Also, yup, I've got ideas for Amy. :smallamused:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-07-27, 12:41 AM
Frankly you can't rules lawyer this system in general anyways as most of the rules are quite intentionally vague and/or loose. And more then a little throwaway its repeated clearly that the ST is the only real arbiter. Especially of actual possibilities. It's written from an anti-rules lawyer basis.

Otherwise to go with an entirely different example, Claire could pick up a pistol and shoot out the rope of the noose releasing her buddy, from a mile away. What's that she has no clear line of sight and not nearly the skill or a weapon with the range.... nonsense she just spends Willpower to gain an automatic success. Ahahah the plot is derailed!

And to be utterly fair... Intimidation when actually rolled is a resisted roll anyways two successes don't guarantee a damn thing here in the first place.

Dark Seeker
2012-07-27, 12:45 AM
I'm honestly not sure what I'd like to have planned for Rick. He's already somewhat different then how I first envisioned him.

Eh, we'll see how it goes. I think for right now he'll be busy ingratiating himself in his own clan. :smalltongue:

daelrog
2012-07-27, 12:51 AM
I'm honestly not sure what I'd like to have planned for Rick. He's already somewhat different then how I first envisioned him.

Eh, we'll see how it goes. I think for right now he'll be busy ingratiating himself in his own clan. :smalltongue:

That's perfectly normal. Rick's still got a few introductions to be had, and to get shown the ropes. I have a few NPCs in the city too that may give Rick some direction as well.

Worlok
2012-07-27, 04:09 PM
And back to our theme of Faruq tripping balls when he's feeling pain, disappointment, and rage all at once. This should not happen so often as to become a theme. :smalltongue:

From here on out, probably some saner writing. Mainly him coming to terms with things, and finally learning to play along.

Until then, may Nines Rodriguez draw joy from my mastery of the crazy-hand.

Thank you, everyone and everybody. :smallbiggrin:

Strawberries
2012-07-28, 08:20 AM
And back to our theme of Faruq tripping balls when he's feeling pain, disappointment, and rage all at once. This should not happen so often as to become a theme. :smalltongue:

Well, I just wanted to say... your IC post rocked. Kudos to you. :smallsmile:

Worlok
2012-07-28, 03:21 PM
Well, I just wanted to say... your IC post rocked. Kudos to you. :smallsmile:
Haha, thanks. :smallsmile: It's surprisingly difficult to write the guy. Seeing how he actually was supposed to be kind of a simpleton. :smallbiggrin:

daelrog
2012-07-30, 08:04 PM
Right, few days breather. Ready to get back into the swing of the game.

JonRG
2012-07-31, 09:39 AM
@Thundy: Assuming Sean is Caucasian, he would be a "wigga" not an "oreo." I think he's black though, since he and Rogan were banking together. :smalltongue:

http://i.imgur.com/jp4Wd.jpg

Thundercracker
2012-07-31, 09:50 AM
Erica doesn't know the difference. :)

Strawberries
2012-07-31, 09:57 AM
Erica doesn't know the difference. :)

I don't either, actually... oh well. Google is my friend. :smallsmile:

JonRG
2012-07-31, 10:26 AM
Wigga = White person acting black
Oreo = Black person acting white

Both are pretty offensive, as they imply that being articulate/well-mannered or like a thug are fundamental aspects of being white and black respectively.

Strawberries
2012-07-31, 10:51 AM
Thanks!



Both are pretty offensive, as they imply that being articulate/well-mannered or like a thug are fundamental aspects of being white and black respectively.

And no worries, I didn't plan to go around here using them :smalltongue:.

daelrog
2012-07-31, 07:30 PM
It's hard to tell what exactly Sean used to be, though it was most likely light skinned. He is now sort of greyish.

Strawberries
2012-08-01, 01:54 AM
Can I just have a moment of sillyness OOC? Then I promise I'll return serious. :smalltongue:



So since you don't want to say with the family, looks like you got your choice between the Noseratu Flats, or whatever random storage shed we find on the way."

YAY! Come in the Nosferatu flats, dancrilis! So Amy and Danielle can have a proper girl slumber party. With pink fluffy pijamas and all the works. :smallwink:

EDIT:yes, that IS a disturbing image. :smalltongue:

dancrilis
2012-08-01, 02:43 PM
So Amy and Danielle can have a proper girl slumber party. With pink fluffy pijamas and all the works. :smallwink:

Funnily Danielle would likely look perfectly at home in that situation normally, thought she might feel a bit out of place.

Strawberries
2012-08-03, 03:57 AM
Funnily Danielle would likely look perfectly at home in that situation normally, thought she might feel a bit out of place.

First order of business: buy pink pijamas for Amy. :smalltongue:.

And I have a thing lately where my posts don't update the thread subscriptions...I don't know if it's just me or is happening to everyone :smallconfused: So, here's to let you all know that I've posted IC. Please go check it out even if the thread doesn't show as updated? :smallsmile:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-08-03, 08:03 AM
That's a reasonably normal board error around here actually.

Strawberries
2012-08-03, 10:00 AM
That's a reasonably normal board error around here actually.

Yup, I usually expect it when I get a server error when trying to post. It's just that lately it has been happening even without any error message. Weird.



So do vampires cry tears, blood, or not at all?

Excellent question. :smalltongue: I was about to ask the same in the prelude, then realised Amy wouldn't cry, out of sheer stubborness. :smallwink:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-08-03, 04:18 PM
I've come across some off hand remark in books that vamps don't have any body fluids except blood. Including say occasionally sweating blood in times of stress, and other more squicky things that can happen while Masquerading.

Then again I can't recall where so its not one of the big rules. I once ran across a note that blood was supposed to have to be like still-body-temperature fresh to be any good for vamps. Never stopped my play group from serving it socially or the occasional raider of medical supplies character.

Of course we are all so fresh we could in theory still have a lot of water in us. Also of course its a detail easily changed.

Thundercracker
2012-08-03, 07:21 PM
Yeah, could go either way. By expending blood, vampires can definitely produce sweat, body odor, etc, that's in the rules. I was just wondering if they sweat/cry blood if they don't expend the blood points to make themselves appear more human. Right now I'm assuming no because I can't find anything in the book about it, and vampires have no need to sweat.

daelrog
2012-08-03, 08:08 PM
My houserule on tears is... I leave it to each individual player. As there are a few things that make sense from normal appearing tears, to blood tears, to no tears, I think any of those, or something similar is acceptable.

Strawberries
2012-08-04, 01:08 AM
My houserule on tears is... I leave it to each individual player. As there are a few things that make sense from normal appearing tears, to blood tears, to no tears, I think any of those, or something similar is acceptable.

Okay, then. :smallbiggrin: For Amy, I'll go with the "no tears" approach. We'll say her tear ducts have been too ruined by the post-Embrace transformation to still work. :smallwink:

dancrilis
2012-08-04, 03:04 AM
I think I will go with no tears for Danielle, no more cathartic release for her from that.

Worlok
2012-08-04, 04:14 AM
While Faruq would obviously never cry, I think I'll wait for an occasion and then see what would seem appropriate, material-wise. :smallbiggrin:

JonRG
2012-08-04, 02:37 PM
http://www.poundland.co.uk/images/374/original/j&j-shampoo.jpg

:smalltongue:

Strawberries
2012-08-04, 03:51 PM
:smalltongue:

:smallbiggrin:

Strawberries
2012-08-05, 10:48 AM
Okay, so, little question. If instead of 'off his rocker' I had written that Cassidy was "out like a balcony" like it was my original intention (to indicate that he is crazy), would anyone have understood me or is that an incomprehensible translation of a slang expression that is only typically Italian?

JonRG
2012-08-05, 05:56 PM
Okay, so, little question. If instead of 'off his rocker' I had written that Cassidy was "out like a balcony" like it was my original intention (to indicate that he is crazy), would anyone have understood me or is that an incomprehensible translation of a slang expression that is only typically Italian?

Without seeing "off his rocker" before it, I would have assumed "out like a balcony" mean "to be flamboyantly homosexual" or something of that nature. :smallbiggrin:

Soras Teva Gee
2012-08-05, 05:58 PM
I would have gone with something involving unconsciousness myself

Strawberries
2012-08-05, 06:09 PM
I would have gone with something involving unconsciousness myself
:smalleek:


Without seeing "off his rocker" before it, I would have assumed "out like a balcony" mean "to be flamboyantly homosexual" or something of that nature. :smallbiggrin:
:eek:

See? That's why you should NEVER translate slang without checking first! (If I keep telling myself that, maybe sometimes I'll actually start doing that) :smalltongue:
Just for clarification: it comes from the Italian expression "He's out of his mind" (which I believe exists in English as well), which we shorten in "He's out" and then with a colorful simile attached "out like a balcony".... I had forgotten that in English "to be out" means something else entirely! :smallredface:

JonRG
2012-08-07, 12:31 AM
If you find yourself becoming lost, as I sometimes do, with respect to various NPCs entering and exiting the scene, here's a handy spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqEW3hRChGdDdGM1T1NGdHpoaWtXS1l3ZTB2RVc2V 1E) to help keep them all straight. :smallsmile:

I made this for my own ease of reference, and figured that it could be useful to you guys too. Enjoy and edit it as you see fit.

Dark Seeker
2012-08-07, 12:49 AM
Wow, thanks so much Nyarai! I'll be making good use of this.:smallbiggrin:

Strawberries
2012-08-07, 01:28 AM
Thanks, Nyarai! :smallbiggrin:

EDIT: I added in the other two harpies and the other two creepy ghouls, whose names we still don't know, plus a couple of physical description you had missed. I hope it's alright.

Thundercracker
2012-08-07, 06:59 AM
Heheheh, much more comprehensive than mine :)

JonRG
2012-08-07, 11:01 AM
Thanks, Nyarai! :smallbiggrin:

EDIT: I added in the other two harpies and the other two creepy ghouls, whose names we still don't know, plus a couple of physical description you had missed. I hope it's alright.

Of course. That's what it's there for. I only put down named NPCs, hence why the nameless harpies/ghouls didn't make the list. Also I combed for descriptions of Hayden and Al to no avail. Glad you found them. :smallbiggrin:

Strawberries
2012-08-07, 12:49 PM
Of course. That's what it's there for. I only put down named NPCs, hence why the nameless harpies/ghouls didn't make the list. Also I combed for descriptions of Hayden and Al to no avail. Glad you found them. :smallbiggrin:

I see... :smallredface: But the creepy ghouls were too good to not be in there.
Also, are we sure that Harry O'Fallen is a Nosferatu? :smallconfused: I was thinking "not a vampire at all", actually...

JonRG
2012-08-07, 01:04 PM
Right you are. He's now an Independent Agent of Unknown Race (plus a little idle speculation thrown in, free of charge :smallwink:). Didn't exactly read in depth the first time around. Flat teeth and all that. :smalltongue: Just saw the gross face, the illusions (which I pegged as Mask of 1K Faces and Chimerstry), and figured that about did it.

Not to mention, Henry probably wouldn't refer to a Nosferatu as foul right in front of the Prince. :smallbiggrin:

Strawberries
2012-08-07, 03:15 PM
I edited a bit Slick and Rogan's descriptions. I'm having entirely too much fun with this.:smallredface:

Plus:


I say Fae because he's A) a Celt who B) likes illusions, plus it would C) make me giggle for that creepy mofo to be, of all things, a faerie. XD

Your speculation makes me laugh a lot.

Thundercracker
2012-08-08, 06:05 AM
I kinda didn't want to leave, but there's no way my character would have stuck around and chatted in the room with all the corpses. :(

Strawberries
2012-08-08, 06:28 AM
I kinda didn't want to leave, but there's no way my character would have stuck around and chatted in the room with all the corpses. :(

*pat pat*. I think we should be almost done here anyway. Probably. You left, Rick left, Faruq is more or less leaving... only Amy, Danielle and Claire around at the moment. And unless something else happens, Amy just wants to introduce Danielle to the freak show respectable members of the Nosferatu clan, and then she'd really like to go somewhere private and start asking the important questions. :smallwink:

Also, about the corpses: you underestimated the wonders of selective perception... basically, "try very hard not to look at them or think about them - you have a lot of other things to worry about at the moment". Which is more or less what Amy is doing. :smallwink:

JonRG
2012-08-08, 10:11 PM
Got bored this afternoon and added pictures to the spreadsheet (with one obvious exception) for the more visually inclined folks among us. :smallbiggrin:

daelrog
2012-08-08, 10:32 PM
Hmm... interesting interpretations. Most were very impressive. I would give Cassidy Victor's picture though, and Josef doesn't look as old as he acts. I was particular happy with the Nosferatu, except for Slick who's way uglier than THAT pretty boy you used.:smalltongue:

Oh, and only other edit I made is that Trent is actually a Tremere.

There are 10 kindred the gang has yet to meet.

Now for my turn, to do the PCs.

Amy:xykon:
Claire:xykon:
Danielle:xykon:
Erica:xykon:
Faruq:xykon:
Rick:xykon:

And... done.


EDIT: Also, an update. For those who peaked into Erica's spoiler, Thundercracker has 9 exp points to spend. So will everyone else once they've concluded the night, so you can all think on how best to use them or save them. I decided to give a few extra points cause of how fun the preludes were. Although normally I'll ask for experience to be used on things you've actually used recently, I'll be pretty open this time. Think of these experience points as the characters settling into their undead bodies.

Keep in mind it's experience and not freebies.


As for my thoughts on where to next, I figure the next night will be full of a lot as everyone sires lie to the characters to suit their own purposes show them the way things work. After another full night or two, we may start moving time a bit more, jump a few weeks in game time.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-08-08, 10:50 PM
I've personally got Rogan in my head as being black black (screw vampy paleness) but on balance that is some excellent work.

daelrog
2012-08-08, 11:02 PM
I agree about Rogan, but it's pretty darn close otherwise. Some of the characters were really, really spot on.

At first I was like "Al doesn't look so casual." Then I was like, wait a second, that's exactly how she'd look if she was though. Henry and Hayden were both great. The Quenton picture was even better than I imagined in my head. Cassidy's ghouls made me smile. I actually watched some Burn Notice for awhile (before I move out of country), and yes, that's a good picture for the mystery ghoul.

Strawberries
2012-08-08, 11:18 PM
Wow, impressive work, Nyarai. And I'll comment a bit more in-depth when I'm not from a phone anymore :smalltongue:

JonRG
2012-08-09, 12:09 AM
I agree about Rogan, but it's pretty darn close otherwise. Some of the characters were really, really spot on.

Cassidy's ghouls made me smile. I actually watched some Burn Notice for awhile (before I move out of country), and yes, that's a good picture for the mystery ghoul.

Unfortunately, deviantart is pretty stingy when it comes to quality pictures of menfolk. Usually the rule is Male/Well-Drawn/Wearing a Shirt [choose two], which for some folks isn't a problem, but for others...

Rogan was a problem because it's very hard to search for, let alone find, good pictures of minorities sometimes. (The word "Black" produced a lot of emo stuff and African produced a lot of badly drawn stuff). I agree with you guys about Rogan. Hopefully this picture of Samuel L Motha****in' Jackson I just found will fit the bill better. (And failing that, Samuel L Motha****in' Jackson!)

http://i.imgur.com/gH9uS.png

And yeah, suit/aviators/stubble is a HARD combo to find. I was about to go with a suitless dude before I thought to look for Mike Westen.

I'll give Cassidy Victor's picture, but I have no idea what Victor looks like, aside from being kinda big (and smelling like piss and sawdust).

Edit: Switched the two of them as a stop-gap measure. :smalltongue:

Edit ^2: That's (http://i.imgur.com/GPi6Y.jpg?1)our Hitler Victor!

Kirsch was actually shopped to greyness, so lemme see if I can whip out the original. :smallbiggrin:

Edit: Tada! (Completely different, and better, picture. XD)

http://i.imgur.com/l0F4h.jpg

dancrilis
2012-08-09, 02:00 AM
Very nice, I added in the two fully dead kindred, left the pictures out as I am not great at finding appropriate ones.

Dark Seeker
2012-08-09, 02:08 AM
Wonderful work everyone. :smallbiggrin:

JonRG
2012-08-09, 02:17 AM
Very nice, I added in the two fully dead kindred, left the pictures out as I am not great at finding appropriate ones.

Initially, I figured that it'd be better to leave the dead off, since, yanno, it's not like they're going to be walking onto the scene any time soon. But then again again, I did have a "Who the hell was Brett?" moment while reading the IC thread, so that's good info to have.

I'll find pictures of those fine darlings tomorrow, though I might just re appropriate Cassidy's old pic for Billy. :3

Edit: Sleep? Was ist das? Pics are there. New one for Billy too.

Thundercracker
2012-08-09, 09:14 AM
Daelrog, are you planning to skip forward at all?

Strawberries
2012-08-09, 10:32 AM
Okay, back to a computer, even if it's not my beloved laptop.

Thoughts: I love the look of the new Cassidy. :smalltongue: I don't know why, but Henry Sanderson had brown hair in my mind, Mike is SPOT ON and so is Flat Face, the creepy ghouls are... very creepy, so kudos, and Brent... reminds me of Charming from Shrek. I don't know if that's good or bad. :smalltongue:

DO THE PCs NEXT!!!! :smallbiggrin::smallcool:

Also, @TC:


Daelrog, are you planning to skip forward at all?

I think you may have missed an edit:



As for my thoughts on where to next, I figure the next night will be full of a lot as everyone sires lie to the characters to suit their own purposes show them the way things work. After another full night or two, we may start moving time a bit more, jump a few weeks in game time.

:smallsmile:

Thundercracker
2012-08-09, 10:51 AM
Edits coming after posts are tough to catch, thanks. I'm actually glad we're not skipping just yet.

Strawberries
2012-08-09, 10:54 AM
Edits coming after posts are tough to catch, thanks. I'm actually glad we're not skipping just yet.

Same for me. I have to yell at humbly talk with my sire like a proper, respectful childe some more. :smalltongue:

EDIT: Also, Daelrog, out of curiosity, are you still plannong of giving out personalised merits/flaws/backgrounds after tonight?

JonRG
2012-08-09, 12:37 PM
DO THE PCs NEXT!!!! :smallbiggrin::smallcool:
Your wish is my command, oh she of the seeded fruit. (@Soras + dancrillis: Just holler if the pictures don't match your thoughts. I just had zero data to go off of aside from "mid-to-late twenties" and "teenager." Finding lovely women on dA is like shooting fish in a barrel made of fish. :smallbiggrin:)

Amy
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs39/i/2008/322/1/c/Nosferatu_self_portrait_by_Rhynn.png

Claire
http://i.imgur.com/uOHsL.jpg

Danielle
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/206/b/0/misfit_by_fragmented___-d41nwoq.jpg

Erica
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/043/6/7/asian_girl_by_agnidevi-d39f67i.jpg

Faruq
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/331/5/9/moey_by_c3r3v4nt35-d4hi9ej.jpg

Rick
http://th09.deviantart.net/fs46/PRE/f/2009/208/9/d/9d75bc6e94837c9dab7f3b14f8d5c4e9.jpg

Strawberries
2012-08-09, 01:49 PM
Amy
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs39/i/2008/322/1/c/Nosferatu_self_portrait_by_Rhynn.png


Aww... she's way, way prettier than how I imagined her... but that picture is ADORABLE! :smallbiggrin:

dancrilis
2012-08-09, 01:58 PM
dancrillis: Just holler if the pictures don't match your thoughts.

Danielle
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs44/f/2009/081/6/4/Where_is_my_mind__by_charlie140588.jpg


Wow I am really torn.
On one hand excellent work, the eyes and face capture how I could see the character looking pretty perfectly, the expression of defiant boredom fits Danielle really well, and the eyes are fantastic.

On the other hand I had initially listed long blonde hair capable of a pony tail or pig tails, and without the colour and length it just seems like something is missing.

Ah ... and now I look like I am complaining about nothing.

Dark Seeker
2012-08-09, 02:30 PM
Nyarai, I LOVE that picture of Rick. You did a better job finding an illustration for him then I ever could. I pictured him a little gruffer, but this works out amazingly. Thanks. :smallbiggrin:

Strawberries
2012-08-09, 02:34 PM
On the other hand I had initially listed long blonde hair capable of a pony tail or pig tails, and without the colour and length it just seems like something is missing.


The lenght could still be right, I think. That sort of hair is easy enough to pull into a ponytail or pigtail. I should know, I have straight hair like that and wore them at that lenght for years.

If it helps, I too think that the eyes and the expression are spot-on. :smallbiggrin:

JonRG
2012-08-09, 04:02 PM
Wow I am really torn.
On one hand excellent work, the eyes and face capture how I could see the character looking pretty perfectly, the expression of defiant boredom fits Danielle really well, and the eyes are fantastic.

On the other hand I had initially listed long blonde hair capable of a pony tail or pig tails, and without the colour and length it just seems like something is missing.

Ah ... and now I look like I am complaining about nothing.

It's not nothing! The little details are important sometimes. :smalltongue:

Defiant, bored teen with long blond hair. Time to acquisition... about 30-90 seconds.

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/206/b/0/misfit_by_fragmented___-d41nwoq.jpg

I told you guys. Fish in a barrel. :smallbiggrin:

EDIT: Oho! A palette swapped challenger approaches!

http://i.imgur.com/M63Rp.png

Sadly can't go any lighter on the shade, because then it gets all washed out and gross. Also, as someone with hair a bit shorter than hers, I could totally do pigtails (if I could find a second hair tie :smallyuk:).

dancrilis
2012-08-10, 12:18 AM
Defiant, bored teen with long blond hair. Time to acquisition... about 30-90 seconds.

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/206/b/0/misfit_by_fragmented___-d41nwoq.jpg

Fantastic, I choose this one.

Thanks Nyarai.

daelrog
2012-08-10, 12:30 AM
Daelrog, are you planning to skip forward at all?

I think we're close to being done with the night. Faruq needs to get dropped off where Flockton is. Danielle and Amy are heading towards the Nosferatu place. Rick has a conversation to finish.

As for skipping forward, I think the next night will be covered in dpeth, maybe the night after that depending. Afterwards, we may skip a month or so.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-08-11, 01:03 AM
Welcome everyone who's read the IC thread to a minor recurring element I just made up thinking about it. Claire will occasionally have some trippy dreams. Can vamps dream? Well she does (and hey I didn't take it but there is a nightmare's flaw so there) and they are trippy loosely made statements on the struggles she's repressing.

Though this will only be an occaisonal thing Worlok's got the permanent tripping all kinds of locked down.

Also

@Picture: Claire has brown hair (and on the darker end of that spectrum) not blonde. If I wrote that in game somewhere I really was tripping but it is in my description

Strawberries
2012-08-11, 01:21 AM
Can vamps dream? Well she does (and hey I didn't take it but there is a nightmare's flaw so there)

That's exactly my thought on the question of dreaming: yes, vampires should be able to dream, otherwise the nightmare flaw wouldn't be out there.


@Picture: Claire has brown hair (and on the darker end of that spectrum) not blonde. If I wrote that in game somewhere I really was tripping but it is in my description


Soras, did you say anywhere what your bestial feature was? I was curious (and you frenzied, so I guessed you should have one) but couldn't find a description anywhere.
Or is Claire (and us with her) still unaware of it?

Soras Teva Gee
2012-08-11, 01:52 AM
Oh she has one I've been mentioning since it happened... namely Claire's clothes fit just fine.

Her mind simply no longer allows her to feel comfortable in them, because animals don't wear them. Chosen to directly relate to the circumstances of her embrace and first frenzy. Everything she wears will feel uncomfortable and may occasionally lead to some occasional social lapses but for an unstatted one I figured I'd could go low key and vagueish. While on the other hand the sort forced behavior she showed in the embrace to match Rogan is now a part of her thinking more permanently she just hasn't realized it yet.

(Incidentally that whole embrace actually came about by accident on the meta level. I was not originally writing Claire as getting interested in Rogan romantically, but attempting to match his casual nudism along with some rebirth and naturalistic symbolism. But our good ST went another way and I decided it made sense for Claire too.)

She isn't aware of it yet though I'm planning to make her realize it at some point. Hence the a deliberate contrasting in the crazy forest dream she's having.

Strawberries
2012-08-11, 03:30 AM
(Incidentally that whole embrace actually came about by accident on the meta level. I was not originally writing Claire as getting interested in Rogan romantically.

I had found that a little strange, actually! :smallamused:


Her mind simply no longer allows her to feel comfortable in them, because animals don't wear them.

Okay, so that means that so far, we have:

-A stoner Ventrue
-A nudist Gangrel
-A Nosferatu that's weirded out by Mask of a Thousand face.
-A Caitiff with anger management issues

And while the other two seem more normal, so far, I've got no doubt that we're off to a interesting coterie. :smallbiggrin:

Thundercracker
2012-08-11, 10:00 AM
Your wish is my command, oh she of the seeded fruit. (@Soras + dancrillis: Just holler if the pictures don't match your thoughts. I just had zero data to go off of aside from "mid-to-late twenties" and "teenager." Finding lovely women on dA is like shooting fish in a barrel made of fish. :smallbiggrin:)

Erica
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/043/6/7/asian_girl_by_agnidevi-d39f67i.jpg


Pretty close to what I had pictured too, except Erica would be a bit older. This could very easily be a portrait of her when she graduated high school.

Strawberries
2012-08-11, 11:21 AM
Strawberries: Well Amy could likely find Danielle tonight if she wanted, or tomorrow would be grand, as potentially having a higher humanity then the others they might very well be the first to wake up.

Probably tomorrow evening will be better, but just because we'll end up blocking the other players otherwise. (Unless Daelrog decides to go ahead with them and leave us the time to wrap up things between us) :smallsmile:

Either way, I'll make a token attempt for Amy to find you tonight. No way in hell that she is going to leave you all alone, or worse with Flat Face, as she thinks you are :smalltongue:

JonRG
2012-08-11, 11:42 AM
Pretty close to what I had pictured too, except Erica would be a bit older. This could very easily be a portrait of her when she graduated high school.

So more like this?

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/242/d/3/sherlley_by_tjota-d48aqb0.png

(According to dA, nearly all Chinese women either wear a qipao or go au naturel. :smalltongue:)


@Picture: Claire has brown hair (and on the darker end of that spectrum) not blonde. If I wrote that in game somewhere I really was tripping but it is in my description

You didn't. I just couldn't recall Claire ever being described anywhere. From the top!

http://i.imgur.com/2KtkC.jpg

(Had to search for werewolves to cut down on the number of waifs mugging demurely for the camera. :smallbiggrin:)

Thundercracker
2012-08-11, 08:54 PM
Given the choice I'd say stick with the first one. I had a look through D.A. too and yeah, looks like everyone sticks to very similar themes.

Strawberries
2012-08-11, 11:58 PM
"There's a lot of good things, Evaz. I was born at the turn of the century, even fought in World War I. "

Psst, daelrog... unless Mike hasn't lied to Amy about being born in 1922, I think you may have a typo there... it should be World War II. I'll hold up answering IC just in case it isn't a typo (I guess high-school level of education would be enough for her to remember the dates of the two world wars... so if that's really what he said, she's got to call him out on it)

Soras Teva Gee
2012-08-12, 05:51 PM
So after shooting way to many fish in a barrel made of fish where the water is also fish I finally found a picture for Claire I can get behind.

http://i.imgur.com/uOHsL.jpg

(Fun fact I nabbed this out of an advertisement and had to finagle a larger picture out by getting lucky on file names... then had to edit it to a showable size myself)

Strawberries
2012-08-13, 06:18 AM
I edited Nyarai's spreadsheet...because I have mentioned Duke in a recent post and I realised that somebody could go "huh?", since he's mentioned just in the beginning of my prelude.

So, i proudly present you the entries for Duke, owner of a shabby diner in the outhwest part of town, and Elizabeth, disembodied voice and general pain in the ass at the Nosferatu flats. No pictures, though. I'm no good at finding pictures.

daelrog
2012-08-13, 08:43 PM
I edited Nyarai's spreadsheet...because I have mentioned Duke in a recent post and I realised that somebody could go "huh?", since he's mentioned just in the beginning of my prelude.

So, i proudly present you the entries for Duke, owner of a shabby diner in the outhwest part of town, and Elizabeth, disembodied voice and general pain in the ass at the Nosferatu flats. No pictures, though. I'm no good at finding pictures.

And no one knows what Elizabeth looks like, yet.:smallamused:

JonRG
2012-08-13, 09:31 PM
And no one knows what Elizabeth looks like, yet.:smallamused:

False. :smallamused:

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs26/f/2008/085/d/2/d214bd7d7eb47f6b.jpg

Duke's got a pic though. :smalltongue:

Strawberries
2012-08-14, 05:13 AM
False.

Come on... pink?? :smalleek:


Duke's got a pic though. :smalltongue:

Iiinteresting. I had visualized him in my mind as a old Clint Eastwood :smalltongue:

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af331/strawberries1984/Miscellanea/Immagine1.jpg

JonRG
2012-08-14, 09:33 AM
Come on... pink?? :smalleek:

Do you have any idea how few images there were for a disembodied voice? :smallyuk:

Strawberries
2012-08-14, 12:10 PM
Do you have any idea how few images there were for a disembodied voice? :smallyuk:

http://blog.lynda.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Audio_soundwave.jpg

Found it!

:smalltongue:

daelrog
2012-08-18, 12:04 AM
We have a bit of a pause right now as we wait for Worlok. I'm going to go on a short vacation for 2-3 days. If I don't see a response by then, I'll move ahead. I think I only need one more post for Faruq anyways. Byron will answer all (or most) his questions, Flockton will rush Faruq in, telling him to save it for the next night, then we're done.

For the rest of you, nine experience points. Don't need to PM me. If you can make a quick note somewhere on your sheet what you did, it'll all be good.

Check this post for updates, I'll edit it in as I review every character. Note that you cannot combine freebies and experience points. Like experience, you can save freebies. They will be less commong than experience, but they will pop up from time to time.

Amy: +1 willpower
Claire: Useful Knowledge merit
Danielle: Hunted flaw, she gains 4 freebie points.
Erica: Protege merit
Faruq: Botched Presentation and Sire's Resentment, he gains 2 freebie points.
Rick: Lucky merit

Strawberries
2012-08-18, 03:46 AM
Have a nice trip!

By the way, sheet updated. :smallsmile:

dancrilis
2012-08-18, 07:05 AM
Sheet updated, enjoy the trip.

Worlok
2012-08-18, 04:49 PM
Anyone else just noticed this? I got this while reading up on what you guys had written while I was away, specifically Strawberries' post.

And basically... Change the letters in Clint Eastwood's name around a little:

C L I N T E A S T W O O D

O L D W E S T A C T I O N

The man actually had his genre for a name. Damn. :smalleek:

Also, yeah, sorry for dropping out there for so long, and have a nice trip, dael. :smallsmile:

Strawberries
2012-08-19, 06:08 AM
So... Can someone refresh my memory on what was out in popular culture in America in 1992 (in terms of vampire lore, of course)? A lot of Draculas were out, and of course Nosferatu was, as well (but I don't know how well-known it could be). It's a bit too soon for Buffy, isn't it? And what about other films or books that a girl who is not too refined and who has never been too interested in the subject may know?

Thundercracker
2012-08-19, 10:13 AM
Vampires have been part of popular culture for hundreds of years. Lost boys and Fright Night came out in the mid-late 80's. Bram Stoker's Dracula came out in 1992. There's a decent list of vampire movies here: http://www.imdb.com/list/F1w6m2-kN9k/