OotS Style Art/Fanart Showcase V [Archive] - Giant in the Playground Forums

Crimmy

2012-07-27, 10:44 PM

It's not that I don't love you, it's just that the world and at least one ocean has decided it can never be. :smalltongue:

Oh, woe is me. I shall obtain the golden scale, the zora tunic AND the iron boots.

...
And maybe a laser or something. The monsters of the deep will continue to haunt me.

:smalltongue:

In any case:

Personally I still like your style more than my own. If you ever saw the process I undergo to draw anything, you'd run screaming into the night. The pure chaos hidden in any of my avatars under layers and layers of padding is maddening.

I used to do that in Inkscape, but then I took a Tablet to the MSPaint.
I like your style. Those guys with incredible armor, awesome shading and colors.

oh

OH DAAAAAAANG

Neku...
I'm not particularly fond of this one. The pose looks awkward, the arms, the feet...
And the body. I understand you like this slim style, but damn, that guy looks like he's thinner than his hands. And those are lines!

This one is either too long, or too thin. It doesn't do justice to Neku.

Also, the face is too cluttered. The eyes have too thick an outline.

Derjuin

2012-07-28, 12:48 AM

I'm gonna christen it!

*throws a thing at new thread*

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Fury.png

Ashen Lilies

2012-07-28, 01:46 AM

Daaaaaaaaaaamn.
(I would never have the patience to do wings like that.)

Terry576

2012-07-28, 02:45 AM

Neku...
I'm not particularly fond of this one. The pose looks awkward, the arms, the feet...
And the body. I understand you like this slim style, but damn, that guy looks like he's thinner than his hands. And those are lines!

This one is either too long, or too thin. It doesn't do justice to Neku.

Also, the face is too cluttered. The eyes have too thick an outline.

It's funny cause the reference image makes him thinner then his hands

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6a/Neku_Sakuraba.jpg/256px-Neku_Sakuraba.jpg

Tiffanie Lirle

2012-07-28, 06:57 AM

It's funny cause the reference image makes him thinner then his hands
Some styles just don't transition perfectly into the Oots style. It's not that it's a bad avatar. It just doesn't work as well as it does in it's original art style is all.

*throws a thing at new thread*
I applaud your dedication to making wings. I'd have given up and just drawn a helicopter or something instead. :smalltongue:

Anyways, got a pm request to remake an avatar. So -
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/kroogle1/Rogue.png

smuchmuch

2012-07-28, 08:50 AM

line weight a little more dynamic.

You can try varying line weigh to make thing look like hey are closer or more distant.
Using pathes as lines works well too. (In my opinion at least)

Doorhandle

2012-07-29, 10:46 PM

I'm gonna christen it!

*throws a thing at new thread*

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Fury.png

Nifty! ...what is it?

Crimmy

2012-07-30, 12:20 AM

Just finished this:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/Harnel-desert.png

It's Harnel's desert outfit.

Zombulian

2012-07-30, 01:07 AM

Hello fine ladytarists and mentletars, I was on my way back to the ol' scape of dem inks, when I realized that I could use some advice from you folks.
So I have a tablet, and I don't really have much practice with it, plus I don't like the sensitivity it's on, does anyone here know how to change it?
And another thing is, this character I have in my head that I want to make is a Gith, some of a Gith's most prominent features is the head shape, how would you guys recommend I draw the head of a Gith while sticking to OoTS style?

Crimmy

2012-07-30, 01:40 AM

To change the pressure sensitivity, it depends on the tablet, but one like mine (a Wacom Bamboo) usually has an installation process that puts some addresses in the home button, like "Configuration". In there, it's just a matter of playing with it until it does satisfy you.

As for the Gith, I can't find anything other than a normal humanoid (of course, excepting the nose and cheekbones). It's a normal humanoid, you could simply add the shape of cheekbones to the face, so it looks like it's really thin.
Other than that, I have nothing to suggest, unless we're talking a different thing I didn't find about.

Zombulian

2012-07-30, 02:28 AM

Gnomish Wanderer

2012-07-30, 02:40 AM

I think the less circular the head, the farther away it begins to drift from OotS style. I agree, but to bring focus to the shape through details like cheekbones or even shading, but don't actually change the head shape.

Ashen Lilies

2012-07-30, 10:45 AM

Just finished this:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/Harnel-desert.png

It's Harnel's desert outfit.

Maaaan, are you trying to replace me? Dammit, you're trying to replace me, aren't you!? :smallmad:

Crimmy

2012-07-30, 10:48 AM

I most certainly am NOT, you silly boy! I use SAI.

=)

It's just that it was easier to trace the original sketch I made in my notebook with SAI, than to re-do in Paint.

Derjuin

2012-07-30, 05:10 PM

Nifty! ...what is it?

It's a thing!

Some kind of demon thing. I dunno what, I just drew it.

Ashen Lilies

2012-08-05, 06:09 AM

My desert week avatar:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x280/kriskatarn/DjinnKris.png

I particularly like this one.

And the one I did for Kneenibble as well.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg140/Kneenibble/KneenibbleDesert2Color.png

Elder Tsofu

2012-08-06, 01:48 PM

Nice genie. ^^

Started for this for desert week, changed it to include KK when I saw his avatar and then it ended up too big for using. Drat. :smalltongue:

http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv173/Tsofu/KotomineDesert.png

Edit: Resize in GIMP2 made it almost passable as an avatar.

Dark Elf Bard

2012-08-09, 07:37 PM

Look! I made an avatar!

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj527/DarkElfBard/gnomespikechain.png

Crimmy

2012-08-11, 05:18 PM

So, to match my facebook image:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/musicallink-mid.png

Dark Elf Bard

2012-08-11, 05:20 PM

...why does the eye change colors?

Whaddya think of my avvie? Up there?

Crimmy

2012-08-11, 06:18 PM

The body has extreme length and flexibility. True, people can bend, but that one might be overbending.

The metal rivets on the leather armor look nice. The spiky whip (?) too. The bow might be occupying too much space, and is also placed in a weird spot, it should be directly in the back, and in there it looks like it's on the side. The mouth has a weird shape. The eyes are too bog, and too different sizes one from the other (the difference between the eyes is there, but it's not supposed to be too obvious)

The cape looks bad. Definitely. It needs to fall, not follow the body. Cloth will only follow the shape of the body when it's over it. The cape should bend with the body until there's no more body.

----
The eyes change colours because they're behind Link's hair.

Dark Elf Bard

2012-08-11, 06:35 PM

Hmmm... who's Link?

Also, shouldn't the eyes be cutoff, not changing colors?

smuchmuch

2012-08-11, 08:33 PM

Link is the herot from the series of game called 'Zelda'. you must probaly have heard from anme alone, else you cna alway google it.

As for the eyes showing from behing the slightly tranparent hairs, it's a stylistic choice that is sometime found in manga and animish inspired drawing, I think it's supposed to show the hair are very thin on the front or something like that.
(not a fan of it either, I have to say.)

As for you own avatar, he looks kind of .. noodly, even for a stick figure (character look very lanky with a feeling the limbs are kinda long), not nessecarily a bad thing though, just look different from usual OOts. (dod'nt know if it's menat as volontary choice)

He kinda look like a rockstar too. (Mick Jaeger was a drow, who knew :smalltongue:)

Crimmy

2012-08-11, 08:35 PM

Hmmm... who's Link?

Also, shouldn't the eyes be cutoff, not changing colors?

Like I said, it's so it fits my facebook image:
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/304790_10151005359303668_450439245_n.jpg

Also: No, because I want to emulate this style.

And that is Link, as well.

Cuthalion

2012-08-13, 11:40 AM

@Tsofu, Kris, and Derjuin.... Wow. Wowowowowowow. Every one of those is awesome.

Dark Elf Bard

2012-08-14, 05:47 PM

Gah. I need to figure out backgrounds.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj527/DarkElfBard/chainsawfirecleric.png

Grailkeeper

2012-08-14, 06:11 PM

Cheers that looks great. I wonder if you can change the cross style to one a bit like the one on the bottom here? http://redelf.narod.ru/pi/w40k/ia/chaplain_rosarius.jpg. If you can't its fine. I really appreciate it.

Dark Elf Bard

2012-08-14, 06:14 PM

Sorry, I don't think so. :frown:

Grailkeeper

2012-08-14, 06:16 PM

No problems. Thanks a million for the avatar- I'll thank you in my sig.

Cuthalion

2012-08-14, 06:36 PM

Gah. I need to figure out backgrounds.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj527/DarkElfBard/chainsawfirecleric.png

Backgrounds? You don't need a background. For an avatar, you just don't have a background and it works fine.

That avatar has massive eyes, the body's way thin, the gun's way big, and the eyes are too low.

smuchmuch

2012-08-15, 07:56 AM

The thin body is, i think, a stylistic choice by DEB, since all his avatars share it.

Ashen Lilies

2012-08-15, 08:45 AM

Just because it's a stylistic choice does not mean it's above reproach. :smallwink:

You can claim all you like that it only looks bad ON PURPOSE, but at the end of the day the fact is, it still looks bad. :smallamused:

Dark Elf Bard

2012-08-15, 10:16 AM

Gee, thanks.

Ashen Lilies

2012-08-15, 11:51 AM

Crimmy

2012-08-15, 01:44 PM

I meant that in general, not specifically referring to yours.

Though really, there's nothing wrong with having your avatars turn out like crap when you start out. The key, of course, is going from having your avatars looking like crap... to having your avatars not looking like crap! :smalltongue:

My first piece of advice: Listen to advice! :smallwink:

My second piece of advice: Learn the rules before you break them. Branching out and making 'stylistic choices' is all well and good (I would be a hypocrite to say otherwise), but it's better to start out with basics. Trazoi's guide, if you haven't already read it, is a decent starting point.

I cannot second this a third time for four times.

Yes, it's really the best way: Go with the rules, then start breaking them, little by little. I went with Lanky's Paint Avataring guide, following it. And then I started playing with things: Coloring, shading, sketchyness, scratchy outlines, "translucid" looks in Paint. It's all about learning and then de-learning.

Cuthalion

2012-08-15, 03:45 PM

I made a falchion angel. Just to see.
http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/r515/Puffinhelm/angel.png

Kymme

2012-08-16, 12:56 AM

Photobucket is back up!
Time for Avatars!
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/WindWarriorSmall.png
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/Kymme777resized.png
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/AvataristPortfolio/RequestbyShadowFireLance.png
So, thoughts?

Astrella

2012-08-16, 05:49 AM

http://i.imgur.com/URI8W.png

So, messing about with a new avatar, but the left sleeve is really bugging me for some reason. I was wondering if any of you could see anything wrong with it? I can't really place much beyond a feel that it looks unbalanced, but that might be because I haven't finished the avatar yet. >.>

Crimmy

2012-08-16, 09:49 AM

So, messing about with a new avatar, but the left sleeve is really bugging me for some reason. I was wondering if any of you could see anything wrong with it? I can't really place much beyond a feel that it looks unbalanced, but that might be because I haven't finished the avatar yet. >.>

First thing: Length of arms. The arms in OotS, much like real life, reach all the way to the hips. The hands then reach just below the crotch area. This one, from what I can see, has such short arms that it barely reaches to the hip/crotch area.

Maybe that's the thing?

Savannah

2012-08-16, 02:52 PM

Notice how the lines on the sleeve border align perfectly with the fingers, making them look like fringe rather than fingers. Make sure the fingers and border lines are off-set and, personally, I'd extend the arm so less of the hand is covered to make sure it looks like a hand. And as Crimmy said, I'd lengthen the arm and sleeve in general.

Gullara

2012-08-16, 09:29 PM

Maybe it's just me, but with the way the upper body and head appear to be facing, the arm almost looks like the arm is too far back.

Teutonic Knight

2012-08-17, 02:33 AM

Maaaaybe the curve at the top nearing the shoulder? Or maybe the way the arm curves in relation to how the sleeve curves nearing the armpit area?

Otherwise the rest of the avatar looks fine. :smallbiggrin:

Need to start normal avataring again.

Derjuin

2012-08-19, 05:27 PM

Just finished an avatar for a friend:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Kashi5.png

The tail is intentionally cut off, to show it extends past the edge.

Kymme

2012-08-19, 09:37 PM

Dark Elf Bard

2012-08-19, 09:44 PM

I got some new avatars!
My friend asked me to draw his new psion, and his astral construct.
Here they are!
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/AvataristPortfolio/XandersPsionShaper.png
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/AvataristPortfolio/AstralConstruct.png
So, thoughts? Opinions? Ways for me to improve?

Hmm, the ears should come from the front of the head, like a regular elven ear, but on both sides.

The eyes, I think just look wonky. A little wide.

Otherwise, very good! :smallsmile:

Crimmy

2012-08-19, 11:42 PM

Larger eyes, with that line thickness.
Longer ears, not larger, just more elongated to the sides.
That left foot (which is to our right side) looks weird.

Abscondcrow

2012-08-22, 04:01 AM

http://i50.tinypic.com/2m7u5ux.png

So I've recently really gotten into the anime "Bleach" which inspired me to try and "ootsify" Ichigo as a Shinigami. I'd like some CnC, please!

Kurien

2012-08-23, 12:28 PM

I haven't posted here in awhile, but lately I've been making OotS-style related art, so I wanted to show them here.

Here is the first one:

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1152/kogasatataral01.png

Second:

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/2606/alicemargatroidf01.png

Third:
*snip*

(Edit: As my take on The Succubus' character Elanna, this may be toeing the line on inappropriate images, so I removed it. I could ask the Mods about it.

Fourth:
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9293/kradenewl01.png

If they stretch anyone's screen then I will spoilerize them, but maybe not right away.

As you can see, my style diverges from The Giant's style a bit, particularly in the eye size, eyebrows, facial placement, expressions, and body shape.

Since I never use templates, the style of my avatars varies from piece to piece, it seems.

I have more in the works (more Touhou characters!), which I hope to complete in the following weeks. Next up is Shanghai and Hourai, but I will not be able to work on them until next week. Here is the rough version:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7893/shanghaihourairough.png

My second piece of advice: Learn the rules before you break them. Branching out and making 'stylistic choices' is all well and good (I would be a hypocrite to say otherwise), but it's better to start out with basics. Trazoi's guide, if you haven't already read it, is a decent starting point.

And I fifth this, although I have never used Inkscape, and therefore never had need of Trazoi's guide, although I remember reading it a long time ago.

@Cuthalion: If I may, I'm about to try to give some pointers on improving the wings. Think of wings like an extra pair of arms. Bat wings are a more visible example. In stick fiqures, they bend like normal stick limbs, and the "arm" and the "fingers" make up the frame of the wing which supports the skin covering. In bird wings, the flight feathers take the place of the fingers. Others than that, I would find references to help draw the wings.

@Kymme: I don't see anything wrong with the shape of the psion's left boot, but the legs in general could be *slightly* longer, and the foot slightly longer.

Also: Did you use MSPaint (and IrfanView or some other resizing program) to make the three other avatars (The knight, the TF2 Soldier, and Tiamat) you posted earlier? If so, then *right on* :cool: -- so few of us use MSPaint.

@Derjuin: I like that dragon, (is it a copper?) although if I drew a dragon the muzzle would be pointier like real life lizards.

@Abscondcrow: It looks like Ichigo is holding Zangetsu in the air behind his head. It should be lowered a bit so that it looks like it is resting on his (nonexistent) shoulder.

Either the legs are too short, or his belt is too low, resting on his upper legs.

His bestocking'd feet need a dark outline to stand out, and for your style the feet might look better if they are a bit longer.

Careful about widely varying line weights; the sleeves and hair have very thick outlines, while the sword has a thin outline.

Derjuin

2012-08-23, 01:30 PM

@Derjuin: I like that dragon, (is it a copper?) although if I drew a dragon the muzzle would be pointier like real life lizards.

Thanks! It sort of is - the request was pretty specific about shape and color. It's sort of in between bronze and copper. The muzzle was originally skinnier and pointy, but they asked me to change it to be flatter at the front and a bit thicker.

Crimmy

2012-08-23, 06:50 PM

OH DEAR GOD IT'S KURIEN the awesome.

Man, your paintatars are as good as always. I especially like the last one, it's quite dynamic. I had a small request for you: Would you, by any chance, still have that one paintatar I requested aeons ago? One dude with white hair, golden armor and a molten lava sword?

Mrgone

2012-08-25, 11:24 PM

k i'm new to this. i've only made 2 avatars so far and am looking for some advice. i see the things you guys post and its pretty sweet so im certain this is the right thread for the this post

http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r612/Mrgonethemaxx/ed1217a1.png

http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r612/Mrgonethemaxx/3ea5d8f1.png

these are my first two avatars and I've only been working with the program for a couple days. I'm using inkscape atm. thanks and any advice is good advice.
the mullet monk is for a friend of mine. i hope he digs it.

Made another. lol OoTS Cthulhu
http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r612/Mrgonethemaxx/4eb7a26c.png

Kurien

2012-08-29, 01:41 PM

Here is the completed Shanghai and Hourai, although I'm not satisfied with the colours:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6463/shanghaihourail01.png

And Mima ^_^ Edit: Now with her theme music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFmL_6xVpdY)! (And yes, I know I missed the ribbons in her hat :smallfrown:)

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8310/mimaf01.png

And I don't know what else to say. ^.^'

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Edit: And here is Flandre Scarlet, with appropriate theme music! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyC5eWJhCr8)

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3391/flandrescarletl01.png

Next up will probably be Yukari Yakumo.

Crimmy

2012-08-29, 03:02 PM

k i'm new to this.

That Cthluhu looks rocking. I like it. Maybe a thicker outline (just outline)?

Here is the completed Shanghai and Hourai, although I'm not satisfied with the colours:
And I don't know what else to say. ^.^'

SAY YOU ARE AWESOME... or, you know, just say... it was hard. Give us hope that we can be better!

Kurien

2012-08-29, 03:44 PM

SAY YOU ARE AWESOME... or, you know, just say... it was hard. Give us hope that we can be better!

:smallredface: Well, I can tell you that all of the OotSish art I posted recently are not based on my first attempt drawing the characters; it usually takes two or three tries before I get it right. And I can spend quite a while tweaking the colours and adding shading in the finishing stages. And it is rare when I'm about to upload the picture or have just uploaded it that I see nothing which needs to be fixed. >.<

@Mrgone: I would also lower the saturation value of the green colour on the Cthulhu. Unless you were going for a radioactive green colour.

Mrgone

2012-08-29, 05:15 PM

was just farting around experimenting. if i swap the colors around i'll probabbly go with an aqua. and maybe soften it up a little. lol he is kinda bright this way. lol he looks like a happy Cthulhu. lol

Kurien

2012-08-30, 06:25 PM

..Aaaaand presenting Yukari! :smallcool: Also: a link to one of her themes: Night Falls ~ Evening Star (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3xMfbu6MzU).

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/123/yukariyakumolr01.png

I think I may have gone overboard with her details. Also, the original was 790x790 pixels, so I took the liberty of resizing her slightly in case she stretched anyone's screen.

I think she has probably been the toughest Touhou character I've stickified so far, but some other ones may be harder (Byakuren? Mokou? Utsuho?).

The boundary could use some work. Does anyone else see a fault with the length of Yukari`s left arm?

@Crimmy: I want you to know that I oftentimes am impressed by your MSPaint work too, particularly your bold use of the airbrush tool, which I pretty much never touch. (I am thinking of your Aquatic Week avatars, some of your most recent.) Maybe a tablet gives finer control, but I find the airbrush`s freehandedness inconsistent and difficult to master. I really hope I don`t sound patronising or something, I do think your Paint skills are great. :smallsmile:

Lastly, I have a good reason to draw Reisen next! (In fact, I sketched her before Yukari, but I decided to do Yukari first.)

Crimmy

2012-08-30, 07:57 PM

@^: You're a monster! That level of details is incredible!

About the airbrush tool: It's all about experimenting. I looked into some photos of whales in the deep sea, and tried to mimick the bubbles + Light diffussion. Thanks, but I really must say that, with the proper colors and figure, it's not impossible to insert something made with the airb tool.

Speaking of which. I will soon upload a sketch that I plan to OotSify later on, and a Pirate version of Scarlet Knight.
Stay tuned!

Derjuin

2012-08-31, 01:40 AM

Did this last night while under the effects of sleep medicine (couldn't sleep for like 30+ hours @.@), I have no idea what it is:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Alienthing.png

This I did today, and it may turn into my first Nexus (FreeForm RP) character:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/drowladybig.png

Also this, a Paint avatar, for my good friend Lord Magtok:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/magtokavvie.png

:smallwink::smallbiggrin:

Crimmy

2012-08-31, 08:44 AM

Did this last night while under the effects of sleep medicine (couldn't sleep for like 30+ hours @.@), I have no idea what it is:

I want to work on that thing... I WANT TO

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These are all sketches for future drawings.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/P1010184.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/P1010185.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/P1010189.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/P1010190.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/P1010337.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/P1010349.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/P1010367.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/P1010368.jpg

And Scarlet Knight's Pirate version
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/Thecrimsonmage2/P1010375.jpg

Dark Elf Bard

2012-08-31, 09:58 AM

Kurien

2012-08-31, 10:13 AM

And Reisen Udongein Inaba:

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/5776/reisenudongeininabal01.png

I think she is missing something. Probably the insanity inducing waves she is known for. How would I draw those? :smallconfused:

I plan on making Hong Meiling next.

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Did this last night while under the effects of sleep medicine (couldn't sleep for like 30+ hours @.@), I have no idea what it is:

*snip*

This I did today, and it may turn into my first Nexus (FreeForm RP) character:

*snip*

Also this, a Paint avatar, for my good friend Lord Magtok:

*snip*

:smallwink::smallbiggrin:

I imagine the first one to be an eldritch guardian of some kind for a virtual world.

I know you didn't ask for a comment, but the second one, the drow... I think her cleavage seems a bit low on her torso.

The Paintatar made me smile.

I want to work on that thing... I WANT TO

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These are all sketches for future drawings.
*snip*

And Scarlet Knight's Pirate version
*snip*

These sketches are excellent, and they look fairly large. My sketches are always quite small; for instance, my largest sketch, Yukari, is about eight centimetres tall.

The demon one with the inverted cross forehead reminds me of that request you asked of me long ago as the alter ego of lava sword guy. His expression is sheer menace!

I don't recognize the singer... is he based on a real person?

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@DEB V: Thanks! Her hair is just like how it turned out in the original sketch. I guess I need more practice drawing believable hair. ^_^

Dark Elf Bard

2012-08-31, 10:58 AM

That's really cool. THe only thing is that the hair looks a little weird when it crosses. :S

Crimmy

2012-08-31, 06:02 PM

I think she is missing something. Probably the insanity inducing waves she is known for. How would I draw those? :smallconfused:

"Translucent" circles, and "light" rings. Like this:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmKUnHJSh7VteX55sXbFcww7-80--KzIH6HU9mpFFVGce3tZNLfg&t=1

or simply bullets that are very close one from the other:
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/071/2/e/reisen_udongein_inaba_by_nini_design-d4sitog.png

These sketches are excellent, and they look fairly large. My sketches are always quite small; for instance, my largest sketch, Yukari, is about eight centimetres tall.

The demon one with the inverted cross forehead reminds me of that request you asked of me long ago as the alter ego of lava sword guy. His expression is sheer menace!

I don't recognize the singer... is he based on a real person?

They look large, but that's my camera, really. The Singer (Freddie Mercury, but I failed at making him look like himself), and the guy with "bloody teeth" are the only large ones. The others are fairly small.

The demon: Yes, it actually took me some time to figure out a good enough expression. I really look forward to colouring that one.

Derjuin

2012-08-31, 10:56 PM

I want to work on that thing... I WANT TO

The medicine or the alien thingy? :smalltongue:

Wow.

Holy crap.

I WANTS it.

Thanks! Which one?

I imagine the first one to be an eldritch guardian of some kind for a virtual world.

I know you didn't ask for a comment, but the second one, the drow... I think her cleavage seems a bit low on her torso.

The Paintatar made me smile.

Aye, it did look a bit off. Here's an updated one:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Drowlady2.png

And her in ritual garb, doing something dancey for Lolth or something:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/PriestessGetupBig.png

Elder Tsofu

2012-09-01, 09:52 AM

*browses in after some gaming-related absence*

Hey, Kurien is back - and those new things are awesome! They've got a good flow in them, really lively. :smallbiggrin:

*Looks at other people*

Crimmy, Freddy is certainly looking good. ^^

Crimmy

2012-09-01, 11:17 AM

Kurien

2012-09-02, 04:32 PM

@^: You're a monster! That level of details is incredible!
I'm sorry if I didn't say anything sooner -- but thanks!

"Translucent" circles, and "light" rings. Like this:
*snip*
or simply bullets that are very close one from the other:
*snip*

I did think of elliptical light rings, however I think it's pretty difficult to get perfect irregularly oriented ellipsoid shapes in Paint, so I opted to not do that. I did think of having a red moon as a background, and to shroud Reisen in darkness with emphasis on her eyes. My attempt at drawing a moon in Paint could've gone better:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5492/redmoonl01.png

But in any case I decided to try it anyway:

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6991/reisenundongeininabalb0.png

What do you think? Glow effects are quite doable in Paint, but require a lot of work, so I didn't do that. I did try firing up Paint Tool SAI, but I don't really know how to use it. >.<'

They look large, but that's my camera, really. The Singer (Freddie Mercury, but I failed at making him look like himself), and the guy with "bloody teeth" are the only large ones. The others are fairly small.

The demon: Yes, it actually took me some time to figure out a good enough expression. I really look forward to colouring that one.

Ah, I see. When I saw the singer my first thought was Freddie Mercury, but I don't know him very well, so I thought he lacked a mustache.

Aye, it did look a bit off. Here's an updated one:
*snip*

That's better, but I think the cleavage could be just a smidgen higher...

And her in ritual garb, doing something dancey for Lolth or something:

*snip*

The legs turned out to be too short. That's a common problem when avataring, when you (And when I say "you" I'm not referring to Derjuin specificially) focus on the details on the upper body. Then you try to get the character to fit in a square, but realize that the upper body has taken up most of the space, so you end up squishing the legs to fit in the square instead of maybe having the legs extend past the boundaries of the avatar frame (be not visible). I know I made that mistake before in my early days of avataring.

*browses in after some gaming-related absence*

Hey, Kurien is back - and those new things are awesome! They've got a good flow in them, really lively. :smallbiggrin:

*Looks at other people*

Crimmy, Freddy is certainly looking good. ^^

In essence I never really left :smallredface:-- just underwent a period of extreme lurkerhood-- I still check the Arts and Crafts forum somewhat regularly. As for infrequent posting: can you tell that I lack confidence in my social skills, even on the Internet? Anyway, thanks for the compliment! I strive to please.

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And here we have Hong Meiling, with theme music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tax__hIPAF4):

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4485/hongmeilingl01.png

Edit: I focused so much on completing her I think I failed to notice glaring faults... Does anyone else think her right leg or right arm is too long? It's a fairly easy edit to do in MS Paint, but I won't change anything if no one sees anything wrong.

I'm probably going to take a break from avataring for a week or so, especially with school coming up in less than than two days (and also to rest my poor eyes T_T). But here is the next sketch I will do:

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1531/chenyakumorough.png

Can you tell who it is? :smalltongue:

Crimmy

2012-09-02, 05:55 PM

Kurien

2012-09-02, 06:26 PM

@Kurien: Look, here's the thing. Add a bit more brightness to the "eye color" (center, instead of the outline), but without it being red. That might work.

Also, do try a brighter color for the eye outline, but it still has to be a darker than the eye itself.

That moon is rocking, I don't know what you mean with "could have gone better".

I can't imagine Reisen's eyes to *not* be a vivid shade of crimson, if that's what you mean-- that's one of her defining characteristics in my mind. However, I realize now that more contrast was needed for the eyes to stand out:

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8964/reisenudongeininabafb03.png

Thanks. :smallsmile: I guess I'm just overly critical of myself, but I imagine what the moon *could* look like and my moon seems lesser in comparison. >.<

Derjuin

2012-09-04, 12:18 AM

I'm actually feeling motivated to draw stuff now that my video card is dying and won't let me play vidja games! :smallconfused::smallwink::smallbiggrin:

The lady, with a name now! (Crysowylth):

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Crysowylth.png

And something I did 'cause I wanted to try another dynamic pose:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Demonhunter.png

Elder Tsofu

2012-09-04, 02:30 AM

Gee, thanks Elder! That brings me back to... you mentioned you were going to work on something. And I got so afraid that you would make good on your work that I went bananas and started drawing like the world was ending.

Maybe I should threaten to draw something more often - it seem like a good way to motivate you. :-P
Nah, I will still draw something, but at the moment I'm playing a new long awaited video-game until I get tired of it so it will probably be a few weeks before that. :-)

In essence I never really left :smallredface:-- just underwent a period of extreme lurkerhood-- I still check the Arts and Crafts forum somewhat regularly. As for infrequent posting: can you tell that I lack confidence in my social skills, even on the Internet? Anyway, thanks for the compliment! I strive to please.

I see no lack here at least, but if you have you could just make your art talk for you. :smallsmile:

Terry576

2012-09-05, 06:29 PM

Kurien, do you mind if I resize the Kogasa you drew and use it as a new avatar?

I've been wanting her or Yoshika for a while, but I'm too lazy to request anything.

Kymme

2012-09-05, 07:24 PM

Wow. Everybody here has some impressive skills. I hope mine are up to snuff.
Anyways, here is an avatar for a friend of mine's druid character. His name is Sif.
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/SifoftheCowardWind-1.png
Feel free to give my critique, or any advice!

Kurien

2012-09-06, 06:38 PM

Kurien, do you mind if I resize the Kogasa you drew and use it as a new avatar?

I've been wanting her or Yoshika for a while, but I'm too lazy to request anything.

I didn't draw her as a request for anyone, so I don't mind if you use her. But here, I had already resized her:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9846/kogasatataras01.png

Wow. Everybody here has some impressive skills. I hope mine are up to snuff.
Anyways, here is an avatar for a friend of mine's druid character. His name is Sif. *snip*
Feel free to give my critique, or any advice!

Oh, I wouldn't want you to feel as though your art doesn't belong here because you are relatively inexperienced at avataring. Of course, this is where you receive critiques and discover new techniques to improve your art. I think you're quite proficient at picking suitable colours which are not oversaturated.

I do have some pointers for MSPaintery. You see how in my pictures the line width is greater than yours? By pressing CTRL & the plus sign key on the numberpad, you can increase the line width beyond the five sizes you can select on the toolbar. Each press of the key combination increases the line width by one pixel. Pressing CTRL & the minus sign key decreases the line width by one pixel.

I find this function very useful because I usually use larger "canvas" sizes-- this makes it easier to add precise detail. As Paint is limited to a standard pixel size, in smaller canvases, details may only be approximated.

Although there is something that can be said of pixel art and spriting. I am often impressed by spriters like Neorice who can take a detailed design and achieve an extreme abstraction of those details--and it's amazing how things can look good while fitting in a ~50 (?) or so pixel frame.

"Now you're thinking with pixels." :smallwink: *am stabbed*

Another thing I usually do is make the background the colour of the normal background for transparent avatars on the forums (R(240), G(231), B(211) for me). This is because when you resize things, the anti-aliasing will incorporate the colour of the portion of the avatar that will be transparent into the anti-alias effect. If the background is just white, then under zoomed-in scrutiny the anti-aliasing effect stands out on the forum background as a frost-like outline. (I hope I explained this clearly.)

@Derjuin: The second one is interesting. Her unusual stance resembles a rampant bird, such as a crane or eagle. Her weapons look rather impractical though.

Kymme

2012-09-06, 10:39 PM

Thanks for the tips, Kurien! When you make paint-tars, the more pixels, the smoother the line. I use the forum colors when I submit avatars for people, but I don't tend to do that any other times. I started making my avatars using the guide here on the forum, and I haven't really diverged much from the whole "150 pixel diameter head, 400 pixels to a side background" thing yet. I only really diverge when I scan in avatars and then color them in paint, like so.
Spoiler'd for size.
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/Hexblade.png
Also, my bro asked my to draw a Rage Walker for him, and here is what I came up with.
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/TheRagewalker.png

Draconi Redfir

2012-09-07, 04:55 AM

So I know this called a Showcase and all, but i have a bit of an odd question to ask.

Would anybody here be willing to create and OotS-style image of the character of a friend of mine, but not show it off to the rest of the world? I'm working on a bit of a surprise for them so I’m trying to avoid public postings of images I’ve acquired of said character to prevent said friend from finding out beforehand. Another issue is that it's kind of a long-term goal as I’ve run out of cash for the moment to commission images, so things have been going slow as I’m kinda looking for volunteers here. When it is eventually finished you will of course be properly credited and linked if you so desire.

If you are interested, either send me a PM or answer here, I’ll check back a few times for the next few days to see if anyone's up for it.

And simply because i don't want to post that alone and make this entire thing about me,

Did this last night while under the effects of sleep medicine (couldn't sleep for like 30+ hours @.@), I have no idea what it is:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Alienthing.png

It Kind of resembles a Naaru (http://www.wowwiki.com/Naaru) from the Warcraft serise, mostly in that it seems to be a floating crystalline creature that emits light.

Also, my bro asked my to draw a Rage Walker for him, and here is what I came up with.
[*snip*]

And THAT my friend is just plain Epic. Who needs to HOLD a weapon when you've got a whirring tornado of death you control with your mind?:smallbiggrin:

Akrim.elf

2012-09-11, 09:39 AM

little experiment for created "fat people" but i know, look realy weird...
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/Akrim13/g6205.png

Ninjaman

2012-09-11, 04:41 PM

Thought i needed a new avatar so i made one. Thoughts?
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g467/Ninjamanhammer/Assasinotheravatar.png

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g467/Ninjamanhammer/Assasinother.png

asdflove

2012-09-16, 07:57 PM

Kymme

2012-09-16, 08:15 PM

... Hi http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/260/7/3/alcina_is_a_paladin_by_asdflove-d5f1j98.png(I know the wings don't make sense with the cape. I couldn't figure it out. :smallannoyed:) :eek: What do you think?...
I know I'm not one to give advice, but I like it. My only complaints are that the arms are to short, and the eyes are either too high one the head, or the hair is really poofy.

asdflove

2012-09-16, 08:27 PM

I know I'm not one to give advice, but I like it. My only complaints are that the arms are to short, and the eyes are either too high one the head, or the hair is really poofy.

Arms are too short? Thanks for pointing that out. The hair is poofy, and it's supposed to be, but looking back at it, I may have put the eyes a bit too high. I was just way frustrated by the wings and the cape.

Is this better?

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/260/f/6/alcina_is_a_paladin_by_asdflove-d5f1j98.png

Kymme

2012-09-16, 08:52 PM

Arms are too short? Thanks for pointing that out. The hair is poofy, and it's supposed to be, but looking back at it, I may have put the eyes a bit too high. I was just way frustrated by the wings and the cape.

Is this better?

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/260/f/6/alcina_is_a_paladin_by_asdflove-d5f1j98.png

You're welcome, and yes, actually. Structurally, I see no huge errors, but is that a stripe on the cape? It looks a little more like a string. Perhaps the edges should go all the way out, and cut into the lines? I don't really know how to phrase that right.

Also, you were having trouble with the cape and wings? Could you elaborate?

asdflove

2012-09-16, 09:03 PM

You're welcome, and yes, actually. Structurally, I see no huge errors, but is that a stripe on the cape? It looks a little more like a string. Perhaps the edges should go all the way out, and cut into the lines? I don't really know how to phrase that right.

Also, you were having trouble with the cape and wings? Could you elaborate?

Yes it a stripe. I had it on top of the line, but in inkscape, I couldn't tell where it actually ended very well, so to play is safe I pulled it back a little bit...
And on the wings with the cape. looking at it, it just doesn't make sense. I want both there, but the cape can't really set on top of the wings, and I can't fathom how the wings would go through the cape, as I have it now.

Kymme

2012-09-16, 09:24 PM

Yes it a stripe. I had it on top of the line, but in inkscape, I couldn't tell where it actually ended very well, so to play is safe I pulled it back a little bit...
And on the wings with the cape. looking at it, it just doesn't make sense. I want both there, but the cape can't really set on top of the wings, and I can't fathom how the wings would go through the cape, as I have it now.

Thank you for explaining about the stripe. On the wings, if they come out from near the spine, then wouldn't it just make sense to have slits in the cape? We wouldn't be able to see them, so you wouldn't have to draw them.

Gnomish Wanderer

2012-09-17, 02:34 AM

I haven't avatar'd in ages and, as luck would have it, I am finally able to on a strange computer without access to my usual notes and references for proportions and the like. So I decided to just wing it and this is what came out.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh260/gnome_4ever/pirategnome-1.png
And bigger: http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh260/gnome_4ever/pirategnomebig.png
What do you think? I know I need to fix it when I get back to my usual laptop, just looking for input during the rough stages. :smallsmile:

Cuthalion

2012-09-17, 09:04 AM

The head is actually very much too big, I think, even for a gnome. the sword hilt is also kinda weird.

Dark Elf Bard

2012-09-17, 09:57 AM

Only problems I can see are the teeth and the wonky boobs.

Gullara

2012-09-17, 01:17 PM

@ Gnomish Wanderer:

I would disagree that the head size is a significant error. Perhaps a bit smaller, but it doesn't look bad at all.

The main thing I want to bring up is her right breast. It looks sort of flattened. I would take that line indicating the bottom curve of the breast and slide it to out left. One way to look at it is, do the bottom curve and visible cleavage together look like they're the shape of a breast? Right now they don't.

My only other nitpick is the hair looks too ridged. Otherwise, great avi. I like the smile and what you did with the teeth, and the clothing looks great.

EDIT: Oh, and I also recommend making the corners of each object curved. This is done by pressing a button in the same area as the button to put round caps on the ends of lines.

Ashen Lilies

2012-09-17, 02:23 PM

Cuthalion

2012-09-17, 03:30 PM

Welcome to the Dark Side. References are for the weak.

People actually have references and everything? Oh. Well, I'm a natural to the Dark Side, then.

asdflove

2012-09-17, 06:09 PM

Kymme

2012-09-17, 06:54 PM

http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/261/5/2/more_alcina_by_asdflove-d5f61ev.png

Now I'm just having fun with the character. I feel like I made her too tall in this one, what do you guys think?:smallfrown:

I like they dynamic posing, but her hands seem too small, and her eyebrows ought to be drawn over her hair. Keep it up though, you're getting better!

asdflove

2012-09-17, 07:02 PM

I like they dynamic posing, but her hands seem too small, and her eyebrows ought to be drawn over her hair. Keep it up though, you're getting better!

Is this better? http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/261/4/0/more_alcina_by_asdflove-d5f61ev.png

Oh and hows this? http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/261/1/1/shiri_by_asdflove-d5f6b5p.png

Kymme

2012-09-17, 08:11 PM

Is this better? http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/261/4/0/more_alcina_by_asdflove-d5f61ev.png

Oh and hows this? http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/261/1/1/shiri_by_asdflove-d5f6b5p.png

They're both good, but do you think that you might be able to reduce their size sometimes? they kinda fill up my whole screen, so I can't really evaluate them as a whole. Also, is that a genderbent Elan?

asdflove

2012-09-17, 08:23 PM

They're both good, but do you think that you might be able to reduce their size sometimes? they kinda fill up my whole screen, so I can't really evaluate them as a whole. Also, is that a genderbent Elan?

Sorry about the size, I just grab it from where I upload on deviant art. Maybe I should make use of my cluttered Photobucket account.

... No... It's not... :smallsigh: I even changed the original hair color to try and stop confusion. I was bored, and tried to design a child for Haley and Elan. I randomly decided she's be a bard like her dad, and be a Daddy's girl and try to copy him... I know it's silly. I was bored.

Here's my take on genderswap Elan- http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/GenderSwapElansmaller-1.png

Kymme

2012-09-17, 09:27 PM

Sorry about the size, I just grab it from where I upload on deviant art. Maybe I should make use of my cluttered Photobucket account.

... No... It's not... :smallsigh: I even changed the original hair color to try and stop confusion. I was bored, and tried to design a child for Haley and Elan. I randomly decided she's be a bard like her dad, and be a Daddy's girl and try to copy him... I know it's silly. I was bored.

Here's my take on genderswap Elan- *le snip*

Ha! That is actually cool! Sorry about the confusion. I should have known at the hair color. Hope you continue posting! :smallbiggrin:

asdflove

2012-09-17, 09:46 PM

Ha! That is actually cool! Sorry about the confusion. I should have known at the hair color. Hope you continue posting! :smallbiggrin:

I will OotS style is fun

Oh lookie here. More.

From left to right

Tristan- Human Fighter CG
Alex-High Elf Wizard- NG
Alcina-Half-Sylph Paladin.- LG Party leader
Shiri- Human Bard- CG
Jeremy- Human Rouge-CG
Nomka- Dwarf Cleric- LN
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/party%20smaller_zpsf82abab5.png

Sgt. Pepper

2012-09-21, 05:53 PM

A party drawing I was asked to make, and then asked to put up here:

http://i.imgur.com/UJhnS.png

Gullara

2012-09-22, 01:41 PM

You know, I keep telling myself I'm going to post here more often. *whaps self* I should do that.

@Sgt. Pepper: Those are pretty cool. I couldn't offer much more than small nitpicks here and there.

@asdflove: Hey there, asdflove, looks like you've got a good start on making oots style avis. I have two recommendations at this point. One would be to make the eyes smaller and for the difference in size to not be quite so large. And two is to have more consistant line width. Some variance is good, but it's not a good idea to have light weight that's so different. And as a rule of thumb, lines on the heavier side tend to look better in oots style.

And I have some new stuff of my own to show off. I actually haven't been avataring a whole lot lately, but I've got a few things.

A Pirate and Her Booty:
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4040/pirateandbootycomic.png
First of all, I made a short comic strip of mine and a friend's characters for pirate week. I reminded myself that these things take so much more effort than single avatars. It was fun, though, and I'm very happy with the result.
And yes, the title is a terrible joke. :smalltongue:

Pirate Brinika:
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/BrinikaPirate2.png
And here's a request for pirate week. She's a little goblin girl all dressed up as a pirate.

Pirates Misha and Mimi:
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/PiratesMisha2.png http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/PiratesMimi.png
These were fun to make. Two part avi with the nereid Misha and the pixie Mimi.

Julie:
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/JulieUpdated4.png
This is actually a redo of an earlier avi (http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/Julie2.png). I quickly learned that breasts are hard to draw if you want to put any effort into them.

Aconia and Scora:
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/Aconia.png http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/Scora.png
A couple of interesting, nonstandard dryad sisters.

Hana:
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/Hana.png
And last but not least, an adorable little dryad girl.

And that's all I have to show up. Comments and critiques are always appreciated.

Cuthalion

2012-09-22, 01:42 PM

Draconi Redfir

2012-09-22, 01:49 PM

Pirate Brinika:
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/BrinikaPirate2.png
And here's a request for pirate week. She's a little goblin girl all dressed up as a pirate.

As a Goblinoid in the Playground, i approve of this adorable Avatar.

Gullara

2012-09-22, 03:28 PM

I like that last one, though some of the eyes are a little funky.

Anyhow, I just made an avatar, since my pirate week ones didn't turn out. I like it quite a bit. Tell me what you think.
http://imageshack.us/a/img441/9761/path12290605.png

Some of the eyes are funky? I'm not sure I know exactly what you mean. Mind elaborating?

As for your avi. It's not bad, but could use a bit of polishing. The leg positioning is a bit awkward looking, and the arm length could use adjusting. His left arm looks like it's attached at the wrong place. I would recommend putting a fairly thin outline on the staff. Oh, and since the hair appears to be being blow back by wind, the cape hanging straight down looks odd.

As a Goblinoid in the Playground, i approve of this adorable Avatar.

Heh, thanks. I quite enjoyed drawing her. She's such a cute character overall.

Cuthalion

2012-09-22, 03:46 PM

A Rainy Knight

2012-09-22, 10:29 PM

You posted one minute before me. I had been talking to Sergeant Pepper. You're eyes are fine. Improvements have been made. Hes awkward pose and hair is due to his having just jumped to his current position. And here is the new version:
http://imageshack.us/a/img38/9213/wiza.png

This is just me eyeballing it so I'm not even sure if this would look better, but if you're going for a leaping effect, how about having his right leg (the one on our left) pointing further back and into the air as if he's just landing on his left foot?

Also, it's been forever since I did any serious avataring, so I gave it a try for old time's sake tonight. I know my shading's really haphazard and sloppy, but all things considered I think I managed to come out pretty well against my archenemy, anime hair:
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd267/A_Rainy_Knight/Nyarko_zps276ec2c9.png
Nyarlathotep from Nyarko-san.
(」・ω・)」Uu!
(／・ω・)／Nyaa!
(」・ω・)」Uu!
(／・ω・)／Nyaa!

Tiffanie Lirle

2012-09-23, 06:59 AM

This thread now contains 302% more color.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/kroogle1/PerfectWar_zpsa36a1c2a.png

flyingchicken

2012-09-23, 08:37 AM

What about less color and coherence?

http://i.imgur.com/x47l0s.jpg
thumb'd! (http://i.imgur.com/x47l0.png)

Crossposting from my usual haunt (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13942775#post13942775), because I think this partly counts as OotS-style art and OotS fanart; feel free to admonish me if otherwise!

Cuthalion

2012-09-23, 09:18 AM

AAAAAAAHHHHH! My eyes! That's beautiful!

flyingchicken

2012-09-23, 12:06 PM

^ I'll assume you mean my doodles even though I strongly suspect you mean Tiffanie Lirle's psychedelic art because it'd make me feel better about myself :smalltongue:

Elan painted:
http://i.imgur.com/vplOOs.png
790px × 960px (http://i.imgur.com/vplOO.png)

Haley now:
http://i.imgur.com/iH90Ls.png
531px × 604px (http://i.imgur.com/iH90L.png)

Kymme

2012-09-23, 07:35 PM

Wow. I love your takes on Elan and Haley, they look pretty sweet.

Also, I recently took a request for Ziegander, the King of Fighter Fixes, that I am really proud of. Tell me what you think!
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/AvataristPortfolio/RequestbyZiegander_zps8ee01fce.png

Cuthalion

2012-09-23, 08:44 PM

Kymme, you know, you don't have to put backgrounds. You can just not have anything in the background and it'll work perfectly. Mine is like that.
@V:Good point. Okay.

Derjuin

2012-09-23, 09:19 PM

Kymme, you know, you don't have to put backgrounds. You can just not have anything in the background and it'll work perfectly. Mine is like that.

Based on the way it looks blown up, I'd say it was made in Paint, which does require a tan background to match Forum colors. Otherwise it'll have a white block as its background, since there's no transparency in Paint.

Cuthalion

2012-09-23, 09:38 PM

So I made two members of the Redfir clan for Draconi Redfir:
http://imageshack.us/a/img40/5933/kihy.png and http://imageshack.us/a/img856/3232/kahe.png
I like the first one better, but they're definitely better than many avatars I've made in the past.

Zefir

2012-09-24, 02:15 AM

Hi,
Here is something I made for a project of mine. Hope you like it.

http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae257/Goldmann-andreas/rect8390_zps0c2862e1.png

Kymme

2012-09-24, 07:23 AM

Based on the way it looks blown up, I'd say it was made in Paint, which does require a tan background to match Forum colors. Otherwise it'll have a white block as its background, since there's no transparency in Paint.

Yes, I do make my avatars in paint, so they need the forum colors as a background.

asdflove

2012-09-25, 07:03 PM

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/party2smaller.png

Hello people of OOTS style thread, did a anything interesting happen when I popped over to the pony thread?

Cuthalion

2012-09-25, 07:32 PM

Paaaiiiiinnnnnn... That's not how you hold a violin. :smallbiggrin: Also, the smile lines are too thin.

asdflove

2012-09-25, 07:51 PM

Paaaiiiiinnnnnn... That's not how you hold a violin. :smallbiggrin: Also, the smile lines are too thin.

I guessed. I really have no idea:smalltongue:. The smile lines are too thin?... They look fine to me... :smalleek:

Cuthalion

2012-09-25, 08:10 PM

There should generally be consistent line width. And I probably wouldn't care if I didn't play violin. :smallsmile:
Like this:
http://takelessons.com/uploads/Service/public_category_header_violin.png

asdflove

2012-09-25, 08:42 PM

There should generally be consistent line width. And I probably wouldn't care if I didn't play violin. :smallsmile:
Like this:
http://takelessons.com/uploads/Service/public_category_header_violin.png

Okay, I never did anything with stringed instruments. My Middle School kept the Band and Orchestra separate, so I hardly even saw them, let alone someone playing them. I was Clarinet...

Savannah

2012-09-25, 08:58 PM

When in doubt, google image search is your friend :smallwink: I've gotten so many random reference pictures from there...

Ashen Lilies

2012-09-26, 01:06 AM

Why does she have her finger around one of the pegs? I'm pretty sure that's not how you hold it, unless you're tuning it, and that's a really strange way to go about it. :smalltongue:

(Also her chin is not resting on/gripping the violin. >.>)

Korney

2012-09-26, 01:53 AM

asdflove

2012-09-26, 03:29 PM

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/Marissasmaller-1.png

Kymme

2012-09-26, 06:39 PM

*snip*
Pretty cool! I like the posing, but I can't tell if the lines of her magic are black, or just dark red. Also, her shoes don't really look like shoes.

asdflove

2012-09-26, 07:47 PM

Pretty cool! I like the posing, but I can't tell if the lines of her magic are black, or just dark red. Also, her shoes don't really look like shoes.

Outlines are black, and I was going for a ballet flats like thing, instead of the boots we always see in the comic.

Kymme

2012-09-26, 09:31 PM

Outlines are black, and I was going for a ballet flats like thing, instead of the boots we always see in the comic.

Okay then. I see it now. BTW, what is her name? Surely a lovely lady like that would have a name.

asdflove

2012-09-26, 10:08 PM

Okay then. I see it now. BTW, what is her name? Surely a lovely lady like that would have a name.

She has her real name, and the name she made up for herself.
Her real name is Marissa.
The name she made up is Areyil (Air-yil)

Gullara

2012-09-27, 12:41 AM

asdflove

2012-09-27, 03:13 PM

@asdflove: Not a bad avi. I do have a few recommendations, however.

For one thing, the hair looks like it's intended to match her head facing forward. I would recommend making it so it doesn't cover so much of the left side of her face.

The dress looks a bit stiff. Perhaps have it flow with the motion of the picture more. (In the same direction of the magic and hair.)

The shoes look a bit big and clunky for what you're trying to draw. I recommend making them smaller, or perhaps not drawing shoes at all. Leaving out the shoes can often look better than including them, and I think this would be such a case.

The magic effect looks messy. Fewer and smoother curves in it might help. I'm not very fond of just using transparent blobs of colour for magic effects myself. There are just so many better ways to do it that look better in the end. For something like that... I'd have to experiment, but some kind of gradient transitioning into transparency with a bit of blur might look good. I'd definitely ditch the outlines in that case, too.

And lastly, I'd lower the breasts a bit. Just so they don't look like they're sticking out from just below her neck.

Hair is supposed to be like it is. All intentional there.

Hair isn't really flowing, just hanging there. There wasn't even much to the dress to make flow, I like how it is really.

It bugs me for some reason when they don't have shoes, but I may make them smaller.

... Isn't this order of the stick style? In the comic, magic is just curvy transparent blobs of magic. Just look, for example, Tsukiko's magic, in comic 518 (Which happens to be the one I'm currently re-reading right now out of boredom.)

And more art-http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/ootsponieshumanizedsmaller-1.png

mistformsquirrl

2012-09-29, 11:00 AM

Made an avatar for myself. My second attempt ever >.> Supposed to be a Monk/Crusader religious fanatic character I worked up for a future campaign.

Tiffanie Lirle

2012-09-29, 11:52 AM

Run animation? Run animation.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/kroogle1/Run-1.gif

The .gif version is a lot more choppy than the .swf. But I can't embed flashes on GITP. So this is the best you get. :smalltongue:

.Swf version (http://www.swfcabin.com/open/1348932099)

Promise

2012-10-02, 10:43 AM

Like you said, it's pretty choppy, but that can't really be helped if you can't put up the .Swf (The link doesn't work for me, so I can't view it here or there)

However I can point out Four things.

One: You need to look into something called easing. The slow beginning and end of a movement. Even a very swift or repetitive, seemingly monotonous movement begins slowly and ends (then repeats) slowly.

Two: The right arm is going back with the right leg and the left arm is going back with the left leg. It's much easier to see if you play it slowly, but it is there, and kind of annoys my eyes. However, I look at lots of animations so I'm just being fussy :smallbiggrin:

Three: The hair seems to wave back and forth randomly, it should, infact, move forwards and up a moment after the foot leaves the ground and start moving down once he is at the apex of each "leap", which brings me to the next, and last, thing.

Four: The legs seem to simply be moving back and forth. When someone/thing runs, he, she or it is actually performing many tiny, rappid jumps. Between each stride, your little avvy should rise up a tiny bit, when neither foot is on the ground.

I hope some of this helps, and that I'm not coming off as an ass, I just wanna help :smallredface:

On to my question, is it okay if I put up avvies here and ask how to improve them? I know most people give advice here, but I want to put it up with the specific purpose of getting help.

Cuthalion

2012-10-02, 11:44 AM

On to my question, is it okay if I put up avvies here and ask how to improve them? I know most people give advice here, but I want to put it up with the specific purpose of getting help.

Absolutely. That's basically the point. Go ahead.
Also, Tiffanie, the belt looks like it's around the legs, because it's way too low. The legs don't start right below the belt.
As for me, I made an avatar for someone, and I'm not perfectly satisfied with it. Can any of you see anything?
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/9366/herd.png

Savannah

2012-10-02, 12:28 PM

Three thoughts, Cuthalion:

1) The black outline of her head is visible through her hair. I would add more hair or remove that part of the outline.

2) The mouth is way too small. I'm horrible at open-mouthed smiles, so I'm not the best source of advice, but it should be way bigger with relatively few lines, so there's lots of white teeth showing.

3) Your boots are way too thin -- OotS-style shoes are either really clunky or nonexistent.

Felyndiira

2012-10-06, 05:52 AM

http://i46.tinypic.com/2m7tfsi.png

Kymme

2012-10-06, 03:09 PM

http://i46.tinypic.com/2m7tfsi.png

Woah. That, there, is cool looking. But I have a critique:
It seems like the lines are all blurry, and the fingers have a shape that just doesn't seem right.

asdflove

2012-10-06, 03:56 PM

Expoted this one a little bigger than usual...
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/childhood.png

Teutonic Knight

2012-10-06, 05:40 PM

The blurry lines have been Felyndiira's thing since as long as I can remember.

Also, for those of you that do colored eyes, can you show/tell me how you make them so that it doesn't look weird? Like width of stroke for eyes compared to stroke width used for the rest of the body? Does it have something to do with the size of the colored eyes?

Gullara

2012-10-06, 08:15 PM

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/NadiaUpdated2.png

I draw the eyes at 0.9 pixels, the head at 1.7 pixels, and most other parts of the avi at 1.4 pixels. The eye size pretty much hasn't changed since I copied Rich's eyes when I first started avataring.

AsteriskAmp

2012-10-06, 08:34 PM

After a long hiatus due to university making me start to partially dread drawing with technical drawing courses I'm now trying to start back by mainly doing the most work-related thing I can think of to make myself set time apart.

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee492/araveugnitsuga1/Adalhard/IlyaComposite.png

mistformsquirrl

2012-10-06, 10:14 PM

<o.o> That... is faboo.

Promise

2012-10-09, 11:07 AM

asdflove: I see that and the only thing I think is, "Baby Haley? Baby Haley.. Baby Haley! Hey! Hey! Haley! Baby Haley!
'kay?

araveugnitsuga: Woooow, you're talented. Who'd have thought someone could make an "oots" style group of characters that I'd actually want to print and hang up on my wall? Jeepers creepers. Did you make those characters in your sig as well? For the banner? If so: You sir. Yes. It doesn't need to make sense. :smallannoyed:

So here's my first attempt at making an avatar for myself (which I'm putting up, the others were eyerape, so I didn't want to post them). I'm not sure if I particularly like this "style" yet (as in, as few black outlines as I can manage without it looking crappy). Mostly because I wouldn't be able to make it look.. I don't know, angry? Or evil? As the coloured outlines look so "happy". If anyone knows how to do it that way in more unhappy tones, I'd be very very appreciative of some tips.

http://i46.tinypic.com/t7nb45.png

PLEASE crit me, don't hold back. I've been on the internet for seven years now, I'm not going to get upset.

Elder Tsofu

2012-10-09, 02:17 PM

PLEASE crit me, don't hold back. I've been on the internet for seven years now, I'm not going to get upset.

Are you going for "No outlines" or just not black ones? If it is the latter you could use a darker shade than now to make them more distinct?
The legs and shields positioning could perhaps use a little work... The shield seem like a perfect circle, if you just skew it slightly to become a ellipse it would probably give a less flat impression.
I'm not certain what his stance is, is he crouching/jumping/running/stretching towards some foe/hindrance slightly above him? Or maybe even falling backwards while taking a swipe at the foe while going down? ...The last seem most likely ow when I think of it. If you tilt the body just slightly more backwards it would increase that impression.

Regarding the body, he seems to have too much torso compared to legs, making it a bit unbalanced. Compared to the head though the torso is not unreasonable (although perhaps slightly wide), so I'd suggest making the legs slightly longer if possible. The three heads high rule of thumb is useful although I prefer my legs slightly longer than that.

But overall I'd say it's certainly a competent attempt. :smallsmile:

---

Nice one Araveugenitsuga, I'd lower the child slightly though since the boots don't hit the floor compared to the adults (although I suppose they might be holding him into the air by the shoulders :smallwink:).

CountD

2012-10-09, 06:04 PM

So I'm actually working on a Fan Comic for fun in Inkscape, and I figured I'd share one of the models I've made for it.

http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/855/baneu.png

Our primary antagonist is more or less a parody of Bane as portrayed in The Dark Knight Rises. Isn't he adorable?

asdflove

2012-10-09, 06:05 PM

asdflove: I see that and the only thing I think is, "Baby Haley? Baby Haley.. Baby Haley! Hey! Hey! Haley! Baby Haley!
'kay?

Haley's daughter actually. Her name is Shiri.

Also, this here is partially OotS style art. (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/283/f/3/happy_b_day_qwerty_by_asdflove-d5hf9g0.png)

AsteriskAmp

2012-10-10, 10:46 AM

araveugnitsuga: Woooow, you're talented. Who'd have thought someone could make an "oots" style group of characters that I'd actually want to print and hang up on my wall? Jeepers creepers. Did you make those characters in your sig as well? For the banner? If so: You sir. Yes. It doesn't need to make sense. :smallannoyed:Thanks. They aren't made for the banner so much as the banner being about what they were made for.

They can be found in full size and correct scale here. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13506282&postcount=1423)

So here's my first attempt at making an avatar for myself (which I'm putting up, the others were eyerape, so I didn't want to post them). I'm not sure if I particularly like this "style" yet (as in, as few black outlines as I can manage without it looking crappy). Mostly because I wouldn't be able to make it look.. I don't know, angry? Or evil? As the coloured outlines look so "happy". If anyone knows how to do it that way in more unhappy tones, I'd be very very appreciative of some tips.

http://i46.tinypic.com/t7nb45.png

PLEASE crit me, don't hold back. I've been on the internet for seven years now, I'm not going to get upset.You might want to darken the outlines slightly or use more saturated colours for them in relation to the fill. Using more saturated colours in general tends to take away the "happy" atmosphere into something slightly more aggressive, the use of darker hues also would help with that.

I heartily second the use of an ellipse for the shield instead of a circle for adding a perception of depth.

Apart from what Tsofu already said, I'd suggest making the shirt's neck more visible considering the current chest area showing appears to be intentional but not very clear and use of curvature in the body to better simulate the body movement.

Nice one Araveugenitsuga, I'd lower the child slightly though since the boots don't hit the floor compared to the adults (although I suppose they might be holding him into the air by the shoulders :smallwink:).Thanks. I mainly did this with a height mark on the back, so I didn't really notice the discrepancy in feet height until you pointed it out, going to lower the boots to the ground to make it make sense.

Felyndiira

2012-10-10, 05:53 PM

So here's my first attempt at making an avatar for myself (which I'm putting up, the others were eyerape, so I didn't want to post them). I'm not sure if I particularly like this "style" yet (as in, as few black outlines as I can manage without it looking crappy). Mostly because I wouldn't be able to make it look.. I don't know, angry? Or evil? As the coloured outlines look so "happy". If anyone knows how to do it that way in more unhappy tones, I'd be very very appreciative of some tips.

http://i46.tinypic.com/t7nb45.png

PLEASE crit me, don't hold back. I've been on the internet for seven years now, I'm not going to get upset.
I don't know how much value my opinion has, but I'll give this a shot.

Even if you do decide to use colored outlines (it's actually quite tricky to pull off), having darker outlines are a must. If you look at drawings using more conceptualized styles (anime art on deviantart, for example), a lot of them depend on either heavy contrast or a light boundary to divide between a foreground object and the ambiance; with something as abstract as OotS style, you really need a darker border on, say, the head to make it meld well with the sidebar color (following suit on the rest of the avatar for consistency).

Right now, the trail on the sword clashes a bit with the rest of the avatar; the trails do not seem to follow any natural path that a sword attack would follow (right now, it gives the impression that the sword started in a horizontal position and is simultaneously swung and pivoted at the same time; it also seems like the character is trying to hit with the flat of his blade). If you just wanted to indicate motion and want to keep the avatar relatively simple, I would shorten the trail by quite a bit; instead of making it a full arc, make it either a few lines following the blade or a relatively linear, shorter trail to indicate a downward swing of the blade.

If you were going for full depth and trying to portray a horizontal swipe, I would use this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0861.html) OotS comic as a guideline. Basically, the trailing effect should follow the logical path of the blade rather than just an arc that ends at the blade's location. It might help to place copies of the sword at various points of the swing to act as a guide for how to draw the sword trails.

We might be able to point you to a few better examples of a specific pose or motion if you could tell us how you envisioned the character's pose.

And definitely, an oval shape for the shield. The character seems to be facing a threat to the viewer's right, so it's appropriate if the shield is also pointed in that direction rather than at the character's side.

For the looking evil part, it may sound a bit cliche, but on that avatar, changing the character's expression to an extreme grin, as well as adding the "shocked" lines to the eyes, is probably your best bet for a character in combat. Other ways to indicate evil would be blood (invokes images of a blood knight), demon imagery, skulls, dark or pallid color schemes, or physical distortion (scars, poxes, hunchback, and other things that move the character towards the uncanny valley).

Also, for those of you that do colored eyes, can you show/tell me how you make them so that it doesn't look weird? Like width of stroke for eyes compared to stroke width used for the rest of the body? Does it have something to do with the size of the colored eyes?
I usually use 2px for the eyes and 4px for the rest of the body (although I also draw my avatars using a 300x300 canvas). My 2px is with a 50% blurred edge, though, so it might translate a little differently on inkscape.

After a long hiatus due to university making me start to partially dread drawing with technical drawing courses I'm now trying to start back by mainly doing the most work-related thing I can think of to make myself set time apart.
*steals August's talent with weird alien device*

asdflove

2012-10-10, 06:53 PM

New Avatar? New avatar. http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/Elainesvg.png

Promise

2012-10-11, 06:36 AM

I've worked on everything mentioned (I think) except the pose and trail.

http://i47.tinypic.com/14sgvtf.png

I also tried to tweak the swords angle a bit, to make it look more as if the sword is being swiped passed his head, I don't think it looks right. I actually think it looks worse, so I guess I'll have to fix that.

Here's basically the "arc" I wanted it to appear as if the sword was following, from an almost sheathed position, to past the head. Basically imagine if someone was trying to cut an arrow out of the air with a sword. (Unlikely, but there you go.)

http://i49.tinypic.com/1z4a0w9.png

As for the pose, he's meant to be falling back on one foot while pushing forwards with the other. Think of if he was actually blocking instead of swinging, and his opponent was pushing down on his sword, almost like a one legged crouch.

CapedLuigiYoshi

2012-10-11, 10:51 PM

So I sort of made a thing that wasn't an avatar for once.

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/9467/ootsserperiorlamia.png

Any thoughts?

Cuthalion

2012-10-11, 10:54 PM

Does it have any arms?

CapedLuigiYoshi

2012-10-11, 10:56 PM

Yes, they're right in front of her, hands together. A bit hard to tell with the colored stroke look, I guess. Darnit.

Cuthalion

2012-10-12, 10:11 AM

Oooh.... they're way too high up. I think lowering would make them not look like a necklace.

CapedLuigiYoshi

2012-10-12, 11:32 AM

Okay... any better now, maybe?

http://imageshack.us/a/img198/9467/ootsserperiorlamia.png

...To be honest, it'd probably be better if I could think of a different position for the arms to be in.

Savannah

2012-10-12, 03:04 PM

Cuthalion

2012-10-12, 09:00 PM

Cape, with Oots-style, you might want to move the head and arms down closer to the top of the apparel.
Also, I know this isn't Oots-style, but what do you think about my avatar?

CapedLuigiYoshi

2012-10-12, 09:09 PM

I think part of the problem is those green things on her outfit. Are they supposed to be sleeves? If so, her arms should come out from under them, not go over them. If they're not sleeves, I'm not sure what they are, and they look quite uncomfortable in their current position.

Well, the outfit is based on a certain Pokemon (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Serperior). I originally planned for then to be shoulder... things, but I wasn't sure how to fit it snugly by the head and look good. I wasn't too happy with them either, to be honest.

Also, you have the most natural cleavage I've seen on an OotS-style avatar -- I like it.

Thanks. :smallsmile:

Cape, with Oots-style, you might want to move the head and arms down closer to the top of the apparel.

I'd rather move the apparel up, if I can manage to figure out how to make it look good.

Also, I know this isn't Oots-style, but what do you think about my avatar?

Looks really nice, yeah.

Savannah

2012-10-12, 09:52 PM

Well, the outfit is based on a certain Pokemon (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Serperior). I originally planned for then to be shoulder... things, but I wasn't sure how to fit it snugly by the head and look good. I wasn't too happy with them either, to be honest.

I would try treating them as large off-the-shoulder sleeves (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6c/Princess_aurora21.jpg) and just have her arms coming out from underneath (and slightly visible on top).

CapedLuigiYoshi

2012-10-12, 10:06 PM

Hmm... i think I've got some form of progress there.

http://imageshack.us/a/img197/9467/ootsserperiorlamia.png

Alternatively, I made an armless version for comparison.

http://imageshack.us/a/img24/830/ootsserperiorlamiaarmle.png

Cuthalion

2012-10-12, 11:18 PM

Much better. By the way, my avatar took forever to make. Inkscape is not the fastest program ever. For making machines.

CapedLuigiYoshi

2012-10-12, 11:47 PM

Yeah, when enough gets put together in the same place, the program can get a bit slow...

Anything else you think I should touch up?

Cuthalion

2012-10-13, 08:44 AM

The hair looks sorta like it stops as shorter-long hair and then randomly continues again. Doesn't flow.

Gullara

2012-10-13, 10:44 AM

I have to disagree with Cuthalion. I think the overall look of the hair is great. What I would recommend, however, it to make it some the hair doesn't perfectly match the top of the head. Hair is going to stick up off a person's head a bit, even when it's sitting flat.

CapedLuigiYoshi

2012-10-13, 04:05 PM

Adjusted the hair upward and a bit outward. Hopefully it looks like it has the proper volume now.

http://imageshack.us/a/img525/9467/ootsserperiorlamia.png

CountD

2012-10-13, 07:03 PM

The antagonists of my under-construction fancomic.

http://i.imgur.com/71U8n.png

Strike me with your lightning bolts of arcane knowledge of artistry!

Cuthalion

2012-10-14, 09:27 AM

The lines are too thin. Their sword should go down at an angle, rather than straight out.

Zefir

2012-10-14, 12:15 PM

Adjusted the hair upward and a bit outward. Hopefully it looks like it has the proper volume now.

http://imageshack.us/a/img525/9467/ootsserperiorlamia.png

I have to say I really like this picture, even the first version was great in my opinion. I only wondered how the arms would look like if you make them black instead of the current color.

CapedLuigiYoshi

2012-10-14, 02:48 PM

I have to say I really like this picture, even the first version was great in my opinion. I only wondered how the arms would look like if you make them black instead of the current color.

...Okay, I tried that earlier, but... I honestly think it looks worse. Too mismatched with the look of the rest of the picture.

I have considered making the two arms slightly different shades, though.

Astrella

2012-10-15, 12:28 PM

Okies folks, I'm in need of a bit of help. Working on a new project for someone and I really want to get the base shape right. It's going to be an assassin with sickle and chain with pose based on this (http://bag-of-bones666.deviantart.com/art/Kohaku-BW-167301239).

I'm pretty sure I have to reposition the facial features a bit; but there's other stuff off about it and the whole avi just doesn't seem to tie together into the pose well. Any suggestions, hints, tips?

http://i.imgur.com/zUIea.png

Tiffanie Lirle

2012-10-15, 01:46 PM

Too mismatched with the look of the rest of the picture.
Incredibly biased personal preference incoming: Have you tried making a version with only black lines?

Colored outlines are fantastic in moderation, e.g. on eyes, or on fine details. But in 9/10 cases having a full color outline looks incredibly mismatched in general.

Especially if you use a black outline on the eyes and the mouth while everything else is colored.

Any suggestions, hints, tips?
Anatomy has always been a weak point for me, no matter what style, but I'm sure his feet are too tiny. You also could to curve the sides of his torso slightly to the side so it looks like he's bending into the kneel.

As for the pose, I feel that it will tie itself together once you have some details and clothes on him that define the body and the way it's facing. On personal preference, I'd also move the eyes/mouth just a touch closer to the middle of his head. So he isn't looking too strongly off to the side.

That's all I can think of for now. *shrugs*

smuchmuch

2012-10-15, 01:55 PM

I believe this is the kind of situation where you can allow yourself to deviate from the original style a bit and, as tiphany said, curve the torso a bit

CapedLuigiYoshi

2012-10-15, 03:37 PM

Incredibly biased personal preference incoming: Have you tried making a version with only black lines?

Colored outlines are fantastic in moderation, e.g. on eyes, or on fine details. But in 9/10 cases having a full color outline looks incredibly mismatched in general.

Especially if you use a black outline on the eyes and the mouth while everything else is colored.

Well, technically the mouth was using a dark brown outline, but I understand what you're saying. How's this, then?

http://imageshack.us/a/img337/2781/ootsserperiorlamiablack.png

Elder Tsofu

2012-10-15, 04:07 PM

I'd say that it is one of the nine cases. :smallsmile:

Gullara

2012-10-15, 06:02 PM

Well, technically the mouth was using a dark brown outline, but I understand what you're saying. How's this, then?

http://imageshack.us/a/img337/2781/ootsserperiorlamiablack.png

I actually prefer this version with the black outlines. Maybe it's just personal opinion, but I think black outlines generally look better.

Cuthalion

2012-10-15, 07:10 PM

I, too, approve of this one more.

CapedLuigiYoshi

2012-10-15, 09:06 PM

Alright, thanks.

So, I recolored the lines in the hair and extended the tail a bit to be more accurate to the source. I think this'll be the final version.

http://imageshack.us/a/img821/2781/ootsserperiorlamiablack.png

And another armless version just because.
http://imageshack.us/a/img203/3883/ootsserperiorlamiaarmbl.png

Tiffanie Lirle

2012-10-16, 09:44 AM

How's this, then?

As everyone else above me has said, it's great.

I hope I haven't scared you or anyone else away from colored lines completely. Just remember to use everything in moderation is all I'm saying. :smalltongue:

Edit- Something of my own. This is the first Oots style image I've made using what I've learned from Ooze. So this is pretty much all brush and no line tools. Although 1 or 2 bits or recycled from elsewhere.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/kroogle1/Machiatta2-2.png

Also, I hate how I spent like an hour carefully shading everything and you can only see like 15% of it at most. :smallyuk:

Draconi Redfir

2012-10-17, 10:53 PM

WOW that's pretty. i dunno what's going on but man is it pretty:smallbiggrin:

Derjuin

2012-10-17, 11:26 PM

My computer pretty much hated me for making this, until I closed Inkscape and it got to cool off :smalltongue:. (swear I need to replace my video card and RAM DX)

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/faeriedragon.png

asdflove

2012-10-22, 06:45 PM

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/Linvena_zps75c9521d.png
It's simply been too long since I posted here.

Kurien

2012-10-27, 11:13 AM

Ccheeeeeeennnn!
As promised, an MSPaintatar resized in Irfanview.

http://imageshack.us/a/img713/3047/chenyakumol01.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img405/7294/chenyakumos01.png

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After years of sticking to what I knew, I have begun experimenting with paint.NET, adding effects to my last piece: The Phantom Ensemble, Prismriver Sisters. I think the glow effect adds a bit of an ethereal touch. It is worth noting that 95% of the linework was still done in MSPaint.

They're not complete, however--the eyes are not how I want them to be; I'm still debating whether to make them solid black, or apply a shimmering/glowing effect. I wonder if Kid Kris, the other person I know who uses paint.NET, would know how to add the glow effect? Lastly, maybe they'd look more ghostly if I adjust the colours to something more bluish.

I'm still very new to this program, I need to wrap my head around layers...

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/2181/prismriversistersfs01.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/6856/prismriversistersf01.png

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In other words, I noticed the discussion about coloured vs. black lines. As you can see, I follow to the coloured line method, mainly because it helps distinguish between the outlines of different parts of the image.

Finally, considering the ten multiquote limit, I want to compliment everybody on their admirable work. :smallsmile:

@V: Who? What? :smallconfused: Yeah, I think Miss Lirle's last image is pretty sweet, too. Her use of the rain effect and extreme foreground added a three-dimensional touch. And Derjuin's faerie dragon? How did she get the excellent irregular gradient effect? ... ... Unless you were talking about me... in which case :smallredface: :smallbiggrin:

The rock band d2b you posted a while ago has a boatload more class than these simple poltergeist players.

Elder Tsofu

2012-10-27, 02:25 PM

Gorgeous.
Just gorgeous. :smallbiggrin:

@^: You don't have to try so hard to deflect praise. Thanks for the compliment though. :smallwink:

asdflove

2012-10-29, 03:09 PM

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/violet-1.png

What do you think?

They're not complete, however--the eyes are not how I want them to be; I'm still debating whether to make them solid black, or apply a shimmering/glowing effect. I wonder if Kid Kris, the other person I know who uses paint.NET, would know how to add the glow effect? Lastly, maybe they'd look more ghostly if I adjust the colours to something more bluish.

I'm still very new to this program, I need to wrap my head around layers...

Glow effect in Paint.net? Well um, When Not working in Inkscape, I use paint.net, so I might as well tell you what I do for glow effects. it's simple. I do the exact same shape (or whatever the heck you may be trying to make glow. It works for most things) usually with a copy-paste into new layer,then brighten the colors a bit, and apply a blur. I typically use a Gaussian blur. I hope that helps. :smallbiggrin:

Kymme

2012-10-29, 06:03 PM

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/violet-1.png

What do you think?

*snip'd*

I love what you've done with her* hair. It has a lot of detail, and the shape is very cool looking. The colors of the first avatar also seem very fitting, and mesh well. In the time that you have been posting, your avatars have gotten a lot better! Keep up the good work!

*Saying "her" because I am not sure if they are different people or just the same person in vampire/not vampire mode

Also, I have a new creating I would like to show you all! Spoilered, of course.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/TheFive.png
I'm the dude on the far left.

asdflove

2012-10-29, 09:51 PM

I love what you've done with her* hair. It has a lot of detail, and the shape is very cool looking. The colors of the first avatar also seem very fitting, and mesh well. In the time that you have been posting, your avatars have gotten a lot better! Keep up the good work!

*Saying "her" because I am not sure if they are different people or just the same person in vampire/not vampire mode
*snip*

It's the same girl. She'll be in my fan comic. (Image link in my signature if you're blind) This one was actually kinda hard. Messing up a curl is harder than you think it would be. :smallannoyed: But the end result was worth it if I do say so myself. Is it weird that the purple in her hair and shoe are based on a completely different character and I just picked colors that looked good with it? ...
How long has it been since my first post here?... Hmm... Well Thank you.:smallsmile:

*Found my first post here.
...

Barley over a month ago... Feels like longer.

Elder Tsofu

2012-10-30, 01:14 AM

I'm not a particular fan of the hair to be honest, it is too clunky and before you said they were curls I didn't see what it was that you wanted to achieve.
Mind you, I agree that curls are hard. ^^
Attempt by me at curls below:
http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv173/Tsofu/PrincessWaltz/120x120/Angela120.png

One thing that might make it easier to see that the curls are curling is to add a slightly different shade to the "outside" and "inside" of the curl. Nothing extreme mind you, just a hint which you don't really notice before you're looking for it.

Alexander leah

2012-10-30, 09:23 AM

need some feedback, i'm trying to draw a noble coat, this is my first attempt

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1900775/rect11783.png

Ashen Lilies

2012-10-30, 09:58 AM

After years of sticking to what I knew, I have begun experimenting with paint.NET, adding effects to my last piece: The Phantom Ensemble, Prismriver Sisters. I think the glow effect adds a bit of an ethereal touch. It is worth noting that 95% of the linework was still done in MSPaint.

They're not complete, however--the eyes are not how I want them to be; I'm still debating whether to make them solid black, or apply a shimmering/glowing effect. I wonder if Kid Kris, the other person I know who uses paint.NET, would know how to add the glow effect? Lastly, maybe they'd look more ghostly if I adjust the colours to something more bluish.

I'm still very new to this program, I need to wrap my head around layers...

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/2181/prismriversistersfs01.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/6856/prismriversistersf01.png

Depends on the type of glow you want, really. I would suggest experimenting until you find stuff that works. For a 'radiant' glow, like say, a lightsaber, I suggest making a white shape on a separate layer, blurring it, and on a layer above that, add an overlay of the color you want. The intensity of the blur adjusts the intensity of the glow. You probably want to do this all in a separate image, flatten it, and then copy-paste it into your avatar, so you don't tint everything the color. I can't seem to get this to work anymore. :smallconfused:

For a more shimmering effect, I use exactly what you've done there, which is colored clouds. For flavor I might add some transparencies and dents.

See also:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x280/kriskatarn/DjinnKris.pnghttp://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x280/kriskatarn/AiyesLarge.pnghttp://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x280/kriskatarn/JazirianGBedBig.png

If you troll around the forums (http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/forum/18-tutorials-publishing-only/), you can find quite a few neat effects to add to avatars (hidden amongst all the crap, of course) or just plain useful techniques and leaps in intuition/thinking that will help you in general.

On the subject of plug-ins, I would definitely recommend Align Objects (http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/4193-align-object-plugin-updated-06172007/) as being insanely useful, as well as Outline from BoltBait (http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/8318-boltbaits-plugin-pack-updated-december-12-2011/)'s pack. The rest of BoltBait's is pretty good in terms of miscellaneous effects as well as pyrochild (http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/7291-pyrochild-plugins-2012-9-16/)'s.

Good luck! :smallsmile:

asdflove

2012-10-30, 09:00 PM

So many fancomic villains, so little time.
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/Natalie-1.png

Everything about her design is set, except her eyes. I don't know whether to keep the red eyes or not. What do you think?

Tiffanie Lirle

2012-10-31, 02:30 PM

I don't know whether to keep the red eyes or not. What do you think?
I think they're, along with the mouth, way too big. *Shrugs*

Also, evil character with red eyes? Boooring. :smalltongue:

asdflove

2012-11-02, 09:01 PM

Finally made a god (Er- Goddess) for Nomka, but What should she be god of????
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/Henia.png
She's either TN or LN

Oh and there's this-
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/Shirisquestionsmaller.png

Put in Spoiler just in case anyone who reads my fan comic is here. It has some spoilers for later stuff in it.

Kurien

2012-11-03, 04:42 PM

*snip*

What do you think?

Glow effect in Paint.net? Well um, When Not working in Inkscape, I use paint.net, so I might as well tell you what I do for glow effects. it's simple. I do the exact same shape (or whatever the heck you may be trying to make glow. It works for most things) usually with a copy-paste into new layer,then brighten the colors a bit, and apply a blur. I typically use a Gaussian blur. I hope that helps. :smallbiggrin:

Thanks, duly noted. Also, I like the character; the curls and hair colour made me think it was Rarity for a second. Do her living and vampire forms differ in alignment?

Also, I have a new creating I would like to show you all! Spoilered, of course.

*snip*
I'm the dude on the far left.
Your developing style reminds me of Terry576; tall and thin. I like your characters's emblem best, but the middle character has the coolest weapon.

need some feedback, i'm trying to draw a noble coat, this is my first attempt

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1900775/rect11783.png

It's not bad of an attempt. It seems the legs need to be longer to have proper proportion with the torso. The shoulders, where the arm attaches to the torso, could be lower/closer together. Also, rounded ends on the lines is generally considered better than square ends. I can't tell you how to do change that though, because I don't use Inkscape.

Depends on the type of glow you want, really. I would suggest experimenting until you find stuff that works. For a 'radiant' glow, like say, a lightsaber, I suggest making a white shape on a separate layer, blurring it, and on a layer above that, add an overlay of the color you want. The intensity of the blur adjusts the intensity of the glow. You probably want to do this all in a separate image, flatten it, and then copy-paste it into your avatar, so you don't tint everything the color. I can't seem to get this to work anymore. :smallconfused:

For a more shimmering effect, I use exactly what you've done there, which is colored clouds. For flavor I might add some transparencies and dents.

See also:
*snippity snip*

If you troll around the forums (http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/forum/18-tutorials-publishing-only/), you can find quite a few neat effects to add to avatars (hidden amongst all the crap, of course) or just plain useful techniques and leaps in intuition/thinking that will help you in general.

On the subject of plug-ins, I would definitely recommend Align Objects (http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/4193-align-object-plugin-updated-06172007/) as being insanely useful, as well as Outline from BoltBait (http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/8318-boltbaits-plugin-pack-updated-december-12-2011/)'s pack. The rest of BoltBait's is pretty good in terms of miscellaneous effects as well as pyrochild (http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/7291-pyrochild-plugins-2012-9-16/)'s.

Good luck! :smallsmile:

Thanks Kid Kris, I had taken a look at the PDN forums before I read your suggestion, but knowing that you got something out of them, I'll continue looking. I've bookmarked the links, and will definitely look at the plugins.

Also, I'm still unsure how you get the antialiased effect for your avatars without the antialias effect leaving noticeable white lines after the bucket tool. So far I've stuck to non-antialiased lines.

Finally made a god (Er- Goddess) for Nomka, but What should she be god of????
*snip*
She's either TN or LN
Oh and there's this-
*snip*
Put in Spoiler just in case anyone who reads my fan comic is here. It has some spoilers for later stuff in it.

My first thought was the goddess of the feeling of deja vu. I don't know why that's the first thing that came to mind :smallconfused:. Maybe the goddess of berry harvest? Goddess of hope?

And finally, I have a new creation, made pretty much completely in PDN.
Marisa Likes Her Mushrooms.

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/9845/marisabrewings01.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img832/8013/marisabrewingl01.png

I'm still very new to PDN, but I've gained a bit of experience doing this piece. It took forever to do and I still consider it a crude attempt at art, however. Being still new to layers, I may have gone overboard with them. There's more than 20.

See if you can identify the part where I thought "Screw it, I don't know how to make this look right." :smalltongue:

Edit @vv: Yup, I'll want to redo the skirt later.

Tiffanie Lirle

2012-11-03, 05:11 PM

Being still new to layers, I may have gone overboard with them. There's more than 20.
Nah, don't worry.

10-15 layers is about the average amount I use for a standard, boring, non-shiny avy. The image at the very top of this page has around 45 layers in all. *shrugs*

New request I just made. For references sake, it has 17 visible layers, and 7 sub layers inside of movie clips for the boots, wings and eyes. For a total of 24 layers.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/kroogle1/WhiteKnight.png

So 20 is pretty reasonable. :smalltongue:

Elder Tsofu

2012-11-03, 05:41 PM

Nah, don't worry, 20 is pretty reasonable. :smalltongue:

I agree with that. Although it depend on what you call a layer, Inkscape as an example has layers within layers. :smallwink:

Was it the skirt/apron? Still pretty.

asdflove

2012-11-04, 01:35 PM

Thanks, duly noted. Also, I like the character; the curls and hair colour made me think it was Rarity for a second. Do her living and vampire forms differ in alignment?
*Snip*
I hope I helped. Rarity? Lol. I have done her humanized in OotS style. (Though I don't remember if I posted it here...) Yeah, She went from TN to NE.

EDIT:
Well I did post her here after all.

And more art-http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/ootsponieshumanizedsmaller-1.png

*Snip* My first thought was the goddess of the feeling of deja vu. I don't know why that's the first thing that came to mind :smallconfused:. Maybe the goddess of berry harvest? Goddess of hope?
*Snip*
Goddess of Deja Vu? That is a strange idea. Hope... I like that. :smallsmile:
Goddess of hope it is.

Ashen Lilies

2012-11-05, 08:38 AM

Kurien: I typically flatten the lineart to one layer, make a duplicate layer of it, then use the paint bucket on the bottom layer with the tolerance set to 70% (as opposed to the default 50%).

If the lineart is really complicated or you have glow effects and you don't feel like flattening it, just make a new layer underneath everything and use the paintbrush. This is what I used to do most of the time before I learned the upper, more convenient method from Qwernt.

Or you could do the thing I do now where you duplicate every individual layer of line art and then merge *those* so you have one layer of complete line art but retain your individual layers of line art in progress.

Cuthalion

2012-11-05, 09:38 AM

I've been experimenting with shading recently. Feedback?
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2599/tmntu.png

Derjuin

2012-11-05, 09:14 PM

Thing I did last night, while trying to think of a character concept for a D&D game:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/g3254.png

It's a dragonkin cleric, focused on smashing faces.

Kymme

2012-11-05, 10:58 PM

Thing I did last night, while trying to think of a character concept for a D&D game:

*snip*

It's a dragonkin cleric, focused on smashing faces.
That looks really cool, Derjuin. I really like the design of the armor and weapon, but I have one problem with it. The boots seem a bit wonky, like they are missing some lines somewhere. But other than that, I like it!

Also, I have a new avatar that I'd like to show everyone!
He is a Legend character of mine, a quick warrior who can wield a huge weapon with ease.
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/TheBladebearer.png

Derjuin

2012-11-05, 11:08 PM

Aaaaaaaand another:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/worgenmage.png

That looks really cool, Derjuin. I really like the design of the armor and weapon, but I have one problem with it. The boots seem a bit wonky, like they are missing some lines somewhere. But other than that, I like it!

Also, I have a new avatar that I'd like to show everyone!
He is a Legend character of mine, a quick warrior who can wield a huge weapon with ease.
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/TheBladebearer.png

Thanks!

The way the weapon breaks out of the panel is nicely done - gives the impression that it is unusually huge :smalltongue:

Kurien

2012-11-10, 12:16 PM

Nah, don't worry.

10-15 layers is about the average amount I use for a standard, boring, non-shiny avy. The image at the very top of this page has around 45 layers in all. *shrugs*

Then I haven't delved the depths of insanity yet...

New request I just made. For references sake, it has 17 visible layers, and 7 sub layers inside of movie clips for the boots, wings and eyes. For a total of 24 layers.

*snip*

So 20 is pretty reasonable. :smalltongue:

I like it. How long did it take you to complete it?

I agree with that. Although it depend on what you call a layer, Inkscape as an example has layers within layers. :smallwink:

Was it the skirt/apron? Still pretty.

Thanks! :smallsmile:

Kurien: I typically flatten the lineart to one layer, make a duplicate layer of it, then use the paint bucket on the bottom layer with the tolerance set to 70% (as opposed to the default 50%).

If the lineart is really complicated or you have glow effects and you don't feel like flattening it, just make a new layer underneath everything and use the paintbrush. This is what I used to do most of the time before I learned the upper, more convenient method from Qwernt.

Or you could do the thing I do now where you duplicate every individual layer of line art and then merge *those* so you have one layer of complete line art but retain your individual layers of line art in progress.

Thanks, that's helpful to consider! I now follow your last tip, duplicating each layer before merging them so that I have a backup in case I need to change something later. My latest work has something like 35 layers doing that.

I've been experimenting with shading recently. Feedback?
*snip*

I thought the spiked chain could have larger links, and the spikes restricted to the last four or five. An art style which follows by the Giant's example is maybe not the most suitable for employing shading techniques.

Thing I did last night, while trying to think of a character concept for a D&D game:
*snip*
It's a dragonkin cleric, focused on smashing faces.

Aaaaaaaand another:
*snip*

On the first one, are the dragon heads with orange horns part of his helmet, or his pauldrons? Right now they look too high up, as though they would be on the side of the neck on a non-OotS person.

What species is the second character?

Also, I have a new avatar that I'd like to show everyone!
He is a Legend character of mine, a quick warrior who can wield a huge weapon with ease.
*snip*

Coincidentally, my latest pic has a similar pose to this.

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I like the interesting effects you can make in PDN. :smallbiggrin: As a break from Touhou characters, I drew something entirely different (well almost, he is still a character from a game produced in Japan :smallamused:)

http://imageshack.us/a/img571/4849/berserkformeasuras01.png
I hope Domochevsky doesn't mind it's influenced by his style...

Elder Tsofu

2012-11-10, 03:57 PM

Just stop being awesome with special effects already! :smallbiggrin:
Nicely done, although I feel that it might be slightly too much 3D effect on the giant arms to fit in with the still quite 2D figure. But it does put emphasis on the arms as something above the ordinary and out of this world which I think fits the spirit of the drawing. I'm a bit divided on the matter.

I also sat down and actually drew something, I thought I'd test out my new stationary computer instead of the netbook and perhaps be able to use a bit more special effects than usual. I did and was able to (my netbook would have melted from the strain) but I ended up scrapping them all after realizing why I stopped using special effects in the first place.
And whew, I'm totally out of shape... I must workout and regain some artistic muscles. ^^

Edit: Realized it might be a slight spoiler since it is based on a scene in episode 8 of the sound-novel Umineko no Naku Koro ni. You have been warned.
http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv173/Tsofu/TricknTreat2BP.png

I also recorded the session but I'm unsure if I'm going to do anything with it since it is a bit anticlimactic to reach the end and just scrap what you worked with during 2/3'ds of the video. :smalltongue:

Teutonic Knight

2012-11-10, 09:43 PM

Still don't know how you people can do such fancy art in OotS style. Fancy poses and layering work and other stuff I can't do. :smalltongue:

All I have to show for recent stuff is my comic's new title art; for those of you that haven't already seen it, I blacked out certain characters because they haven't been introduced yet, and since my comic is still a work in progress.
http://i.imgur.com/XZuYy.png

Also happy with my new title logo for "Tales of Revelia". For those of you that saw the old one, this one is so much better.

Elder Tsofu

2012-11-11, 04:06 AM

They look taller, willowy like teenagers. ^^

Teutonic Knight

2012-11-11, 04:41 AM

Only in this image. And don't underestimate teenagers. They can save the world. :smallbiggrin:

smuchmuch

2012-11-11, 05:33 AM

They look taller, willowy like teenagers. ^^

(Well that would fit the "JRPG" theme of his comic. I mean you've ever seen JRPG protagonist that look older than 20 ? It's like they all die or retire at 25)

Kymme

2012-11-11, 12:36 PM

As it turns out, I have quite a few pics that I have been storing for some time.
Here is one of them!

I present to you, The Faceless One
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/TheFacelessOne.png

Elder Tsofu

2012-11-11, 01:48 PM

(Well that would fit the "JRPG" theme of his comic. I mean you've ever seen JRPG protagonist that look older than 20 ? It's like they all die or retire at 25)

Point taken. And the JRPG protagonist industry takes youth unemployment seriously.

asdflove

2012-11-12, 06:48 AM

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/Adventuretime.png
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/NatalieandNathanal.png

:smallbiggrin:

Derjuin

2012-11-13, 06:35 AM

So I decided to sit down and write up a setting I've been kicking around for a bit, when the Inkscape Bug bit me. They're not finished yet, but I also decided to draw some images to go along with the inevitable homebrew posts.

Here are the first four, showing off some of the races:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Humans.png

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Gnomes.png

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Elves.png

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Goblins.png

Alexander leah

2012-11-13, 08:43 PM

working on my next avatar, it will be kirito from sword art online anime

concept
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8f4crYgu11rc8vc4o1_1280.jpg

http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o685/Alex_Perduca/kiritooo.png

Doorhandle

2012-11-14, 09:02 PM

(Well that would fit the "JRPG" theme of his comic. I mean you've ever seen JRPG protagonist that look older than 20 ? It's like they all die or retire at 25)

...Considering how much loot is granted for their efforts, plus the mental trauma and serious internal injuries gained from adventuring, compounded by the fact that nothing will be more awesome than killing what is basically a god (very common in both western and eastern RPGS), and I think it's safe to say that yes, they do retire after that point.
...Hmm. I think you could get a campagin out of that.

That looks really cool, Derjuin. I really like the design of the armor and weapon, but I have one problem with it. The boots seem a bit wonky, like they are missing some lines somewhere. But other than that, I like it!

Also, I have a new avatar that I'd like to show everyone!
He is a Legend character of mine, a quick warrior who can wield a huge weapon with ease.
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/TheBladebearer.png

I like it. It helps it looks like he's about to dash off into the sunset with it. :smallsmile:

Although the hand holding the sword look a little borked, it really needs a thumb of some sort.

Alexander leah

2012-11-17, 09:59 AM

finished
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1900775/kirito%20finito.png

Crimmy

2012-11-17, 09:47 PM

I don't like it. Kirito isn't smug, he's a good guy. Maybe remove the brows.

Also: The legs look awkward. Maybe you should leave one going diagonally, and one going straight down.
The head looks funky. Work on the hair, I think that's the source of the problem.
The body is too wide, Kirito is a thin guy, so naturally, he wouldn't have the body of Roy (who's a big, black dude with a huge, wide body to go with it), but a thinner frame.

I'm not a fan of squared ends, so the mouth, brows, and hands kinda don't appeal to me (Though the brows don't appeal to me either way). You could try to put round ends to those.

The shape of the coat looks weird on both. You should give it more weight, since it's leather (or something of the sort).

The swords have outlines that are too thin. Maybe give them a wider outline?

Teutonic Knight

2012-11-18, 10:16 PM

Yeah, give it the flat brow :smallannoyed: instead of the angry pointed brow :smallmad:

And work on getting consistent with line thickness. Even if you have two different thicknesses in your piece, I believe it's ok if it's organized. Like, outline, hair, limbs and clothes, thickness A, details on clothes and custom designs, thickness two.

Also, try not to make things big and shrink them down to fit your avatar, that's usually where the difference in line thickness comes from. You can see it in the swords.

Thormag

2012-11-21, 08:38 PM

Agreed with the people above me. Also, try if you can, to avoid making him looking so... stiff. You could look at action poses (google a pose if you need a reference) to make the avatar look a bit more dynamic rather than a guy sticking his head out of a cut-out board.

asdflove

2012-11-27, 06:17 PM

Spoilering this one because I exported too big.
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/spirits.png
This one I exported ages ago for my BBBFF, and found it in my system while uploading the other 2 to photo bucket, and I figured I'd put it here too. I know its way big.
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/Genie.png
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/OOTSHP.png

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/OOTSHP2.png
Last but not least Zaenn

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/Zaenn.png

Kymme

2012-11-29, 10:21 PM

asdflove, I love those avatars. Really cool.

I haven't been taking many avatar requests, but I have recently started up again, and here is the result:
Spoilered for size.
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/RequestbyMauganRa2.png

Astrella

2012-12-09, 11:56 AM

So, it's my brother's birthday and he's a huge Jimi Hendrix fan so I figured I'd make him an avatar:

http://i.imgur.com/EgU0v.png

Elder Tsofu

2012-12-09, 12:39 PM

Looks great! I like the use of subdued colours.

Thormag

2012-12-09, 01:41 PM

So, it's my brother's birthday and he's a huge Jimi Hendrix fan so I figured I'd make him an avatar:

*beautiful image*

It looks amazing except for one tiny detail: it doesn't feel like Hendrix without his iconic mustache.

EDIT: His hair should be a bit darker too. :smalltongue:

Astrella

2012-12-09, 02:57 PM

Looks great! I like the use of subdued colours.

Thank you! :smallsmile:

It looks amazing except for one tiny detail: it doesn't feel like Hendrix without his iconic mustache.

EDIT: His hair should be a bit darker too. :smalltongue:

Completely forgot about that. >.> I believe the reference picture had him without mustache. :smalltongue: I'll try and see if I can rectify that.

Edit:

http://i.imgur.com/g3gei.png

Gullara

2012-12-09, 11:37 PM

Nice. That's really awesome. What more can I say?

asdflove

2012-12-18, 08:22 PM

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/asdfcute/Christmasavibigger_zps3f34fe7d.png
Merry Christmas

Derjuin

2012-12-19, 12:58 AM

Been a while since I've done anything and posted it here. Here's something I doodled up 'cause I was bored:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/malara2_zps59147737.png

Gullara

2012-12-19, 01:27 AM

Christmas avatars, eh? I've got a few of those this year. I call it my "Sexy Christmas" series.

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/IrenaGift3.png http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/FettinaGift2.png http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/AdirGift.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/JustinianGift.png http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/MishaGift4.png http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/oots12321/RissGift2.png

>.>
<.<

Astrella

2012-12-19, 05:33 AM

@asdflove: Maybe make the nodes on the fluff on the outfit rounded ones so it looks a bit less jagged? Nice for the rest.

@Derjuin: Awesome! Existing character or something you came up with yourself?

@Gulaghar: I quite like the wreathed horns.

Derjuin

2012-12-19, 07:07 PM

@Derjuin: Awesome! Existing character or something you came up with yourself?

Thanks! She's an original character, an NPC for a game world in D&D I'm attempting to work on between holiday stuff and work.

Here's another:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc273/xilobucket/Vasunarr_zpsaef01e59.png

Kurien

2012-12-23, 04:05 PM

I had an interesting concept, which I just had to try.

http://imageshack.us/a/img9/2370/kinopheliell02.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img138/4075/kinopheliels01.png

This nameless creature is practicing her archery skills. Supposedly she can see out her mask. :smalltongue::smallconfused: I sketched her out beforehand in a non-stickfigure style, and then stickified the concept. Of course, there were some details I had to omit from an avatar sized image, such as her quiver, snake companion,the fact that her lips are blue, arm wrappings, and so forth. As a sort of stealthy scout/hunter, she would apply camouflaging paint and wear camouflaged armour to improve her stealth.

I hope Serps doesn't mind if I make this my avatar for a bit.

Actually, I would like some suggestions/opinions on how to improve it, other than the bit I noticed about the extra outline making her right hand appear too thick.

Here's something I doodled up 'cause I was bored:

*Sardonic smile* I could never say the same about my avatars. Each one is a focused effort, requiring some days of planning, multiple drafts... Although I am a perfectionist, some time ago I learned to tolerate imperfect art. If I hadn't I would never even post my stuff here.

I like the space katana. It looks like an extremely deadly cutter.

Gnomish Wanderer

2012-12-23, 04:12 PM

*amazing avatar*

The jealousy, it consumes me.

Gullara

2012-12-23, 10:25 PM

Wooooow, that is an absolutely fantastic avi. I really can't think of a way to improve it aside from that arm... Just well done.

Kymme

2012-12-24, 11:33 AM

I only just got involved in a skype game with a few of my friends, and they asked me to draw all of our characters in our "Battle Ready" poses.
Here it is!
spoilered for size
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Kymme777/Adventurers_zpsfa5a066d.png

Also, Happy Holidays, everyone!

Kurien

2012-12-24, 03:35 PM

Gnomish, Gulaghar: thank you for liking her. :smallredface:

I did try to fix the outlines, but I haven't uploaded the result.

I wonder if it's too late to add her to my entries in the Unofficial Best Avatarist thread?

@Kymme: I like how you attempted to draw the black haired one at a three quarters back/profile view. I always avoid that pose, as I think it doesn't work well with spherical heads. I say this with no sarcasm: thumbs up for trying something different!

@V: Hmm, like this?

http://imageshack.us/a/img542/1899/kinopheliels03.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img832/7981/kinopheliell03.png

I think I have sort of experimented with more hand shaped hands, but I'm more comfortable with the standard "trident" style stick figure hands.

Astrella

2012-12-24, 08:33 PM

@Kurien; hmm, have you tried experimenting with different hand shapes? I've been recently trying to use more realistic looking hands and I'm liking it a lot more than the standard trident like ones.

Kurien

2012-12-31, 04:01 PM

Yuyuko Saigyouji:

http://imageshack.us/a/img705/5716/yuyukosaigyoujil01.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img716/6075/yuyukosaigyoujis01.png

Something feels off about this one...

Gnomish Wanderer

2012-12-31, 07:44 PM

I might need to redo the inner sun, it's not coming out the way I want it to. How does this look?
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh260/gnome_4ever/Tribal2big_zps718c8b22.png
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh260/gnome_4ever/Tribal2_zps5dfc4880.png

Kurien

2012-12-31, 07:59 PM

Since the sun is directly behind her, more realistic shadows would be cast over her entire front, not just her left side, and be quite dark. Just her outer edges would be lit. The cliff face, which also faces away from the sun, should also be deep in shadow.

Her eyes seem a bit high, like a male stick figure. I'd do away with the blurred lighting and stick with a more cel-shaded look.

Hope that helps.

Gnomish Wanderer

2012-12-31, 08:20 PM

Yeah, I know she should be silhouetted, but I didn't want to ruin the details. Would it help if you imagine the stylized sun as a magic effect? :smalltongue:

As for the cliff face, it's the color of the board so it'll look like a cliff face jutting out of the avatar space. I agree with you about the eyes, I ended up raising them up a bit to fit the mask and couldn't get it to look quite right.

Are the light effects too messy? How would one make an OotS-drawing more cell-shaded?

I should also work on the staff, probably, the lighting didn't work on such a thin space.

Kurien

2012-12-31, 09:22 PM

Yeah, I know she should be silhouetted, but I didn't want to ruin the details. Would it help if you imagine the stylized sun as a magic effect? :smalltongue:

I would say light dynamics stay the same regardless of the source. I don't know how to explain this, but sometimes suggesting details with simple highlights achieves a good aesthetic effect.

As for the cliff face, it's the color of the board so it'll look like a cliff face jutting out of the avatar space. I agree with you about the eyes, I ended up raising them up a bit to fit the mask and couldn't get it to look quite right.

Ah, I see what you were going for now.

Are the light effects too messy? How would one make an OotS-drawing more cell-shaded?

I should also work on the staff, probably, the lighting didn't work on such a thin space.

The cel shaded look consists of shades in discrete blocks of colour. Simply reduce the blurred effect of the yellow light on the char's right side.

Kurien

2013-01-01, 10:22 AM

Aya Shameimaru:

http://imageshack.us/a/img209/4285/ayashameimarus01.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/4624/ayashameimarul01.png

A somewhat rushed piece. I experimented a bit, particularly with the hair and the pose. This is my first attempt at drawing a stick figure from a posterior angle. I'm not sure how well it worked. Any opinions on what could be been done differently? :smallconfused:

Hmm, I think Aya's head is turned at a rather uncomfortable angle in this piece.

Gnomish: This is just personal preference, but I would at least move the linework of High Priestess Gnomish above the yellow blurry light. I think that is what is making the piece appear a bit messy.

Gnomish Wanderer

2013-01-01, 10:29 AM

It's very good! Maybe try shifting the eyes and mouth right a bit, that might detract from the 'head on wrong' type look. Also for some reason the legs confuse me but I do not know why. Regardless, very nice job.

In regards to the High Priestess/Shaman/Whatevz, I tried working on it last night and I think my problem was in part too judicial use of the blur effect altogether. Thanks for the great advice.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh260/gnome_4ever/Tribal3big_zps8d1a2c0c.png

Cuthalion

2013-01-01, 10:39 AM

I must say it looks fantastic, my dear Gnomish, but try shading the left side of her face a little less, perhaps? I really like the rest, especially the sun. Also, I'm so glad you're back!

Zefir

2013-01-01, 10:51 AM

Yuyuko Saigyouji:
*snip*

*snip*
Something feels off about this one...

It's wonderfull I think.

The only thing that would count as beeing off woulf be the body. It feels like it's to small for the big head and the long feets.

Elder Tsofu

2013-01-01, 11:46 AM

Kurien:
I'd say that I feel her legs position is at least as painful as the position of her head. :smallsmile:
To be frank I don't mind the head, it looks fine as it is more or less.

From what I see she is flying/leaping into the hole in the air (I assume some sort of portal) while looking back over her shoulder at the ones she is leaving back in the dust. (Could be falling out of it too, but the scarf indicates a movement into the picture)
...
...
Well I think the best and easiest way to explain it is that if I look only at her from waist down it looks like she is jumping out of the hole (or rather jumping by it horizontally since we see her shoes directly from the side), and if I look at her from waist up she is obviously jumping into the hole. It is when I try to look at the whole picture it gets awkward since it makes me feel her hips were sewn on back-to-front.

If you changed the position of the feet slightly so that the one at the bottom (with the shorter leg) is above the other one I think it would flow better with the rest of the body. Just a minor edit by drawing the longer leg beneath the shorter legs shoe, and perhaps altering the longer legs shoe slightly so the shorter legs shoe covers it.
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If you'd like to stay with the crossed legs I'd say that you probably have to redraw one of the shoes so we at least see a bit of the sole on the long legs shoe and thus have the heel pointing toward the viewer.
Done right I think this would make the better picture. :smallsmile:

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Really nice work on both of the pieces though, especially Yuyuko Saigyouji which I can't imagine what you feel is of with. :smallcool:
GW:s drawing is really nice too, especially since you reduced the blurr. Why not reduce it even further (like all together) and go for a more ...stylized... look since you already have a very stylized background and sun?

Kurien

2013-01-02, 02:29 PM

Elder Tsofu: Haha, I did say I rushed it somewhat. Here I see the difference in artist intent and viewer interpretation. What you think is a portal is simply supposed to be a "3D" comic panel of her surroundings, in attempt to imitate the same kind of panels artists like you and Kid Kris use. I suppose it would be clearer if the frame was black and crossed like normal OotS. Aya is simply swooping through the sky. :smallsmile::smallconfused:

I didn't stop to scrutinize the correctness of the piece until it was finished. Now that I look at it though, I can see that the lower body and upper body are twisted in very different directions, which looks weird. I've redone some sketching of Aya, and I think I'd prefer the lower body more congruously oriented to the upper. That means the underside of the skirt shouldn't be visible, the legs should point away to the right. I also changed how she holds the tengu camera...

Here, I'll edit this post to include a photo of the sketch, as soon as I have time.

Edit:
http://imageshack.us/a/img197/4291/ayashameimarupen2.png
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Zefir: Thank you kind sir. I think the body seems a bit short due to my unskilled attempt at foreshortening.

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Gnomish: I like to think that the object behind her is some sort of solar elemental, or magic construct powered by the elemental plane of Light. Super effective against vampires :belkar:

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Next OotS style pieces I will make will feature characters from IN and PoFV. Oh, and the nameless ophidimorph.