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Sunken Valley
2012-09-11, 03:51 PM
I wish to do this.

Obviously she is a straight wizard. I'm not building her as a Unicorn so Human or Elf as race.

What would she specialise in? Universalist Wizards are rubbish in Pathfinder.

What are her feats? Improved familiar for sure but what else?

GreenZ
2012-09-11, 04:24 PM
The Teleportation (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/arcane-schools/paizo---arcane-schools/classic-arcane-schools/conjuration/teleportation) school provides the easy 'spammable' teleporting that she does.

As for opposition schools, likely Necromancy and Illusion. She never uses any kind of Necromantic type spell nor seems to ever use any Illusion spells either. Also, she seems to favor Abjuration, Teleportation, and Transmutation spells over Evocation, Divination, and Enchantment spells.

As far as gear, carry around a Pathfinder Chronicles (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/goods-and-services/books-paper-writing-supplies#TOC-Book-Pathfinder-Chronicle) for every type of knowledge and an Arcane Family Workbook (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/goods-and-services/books-paper-writing-supplies#TOC-Arcane-Family-Workbook) which gives you a bonus for referencing the books while making a knowledge or Spellcraft check (Depending on the exact book in question.)

As far as feats, likely Metamagic or knowledge related feats as Twilight never extends too far beyond these areas of expertise. Definitely Improved Familiar for a Psudodragon or such (Spike) but I don't have any particular suggestions beyond not specializing in any single school/spell/tactic. Twilight is a jack of all trades master of a bit of everything in terms of magic.

Tvtyrant
2012-09-11, 04:25 PM
I actually think she is best made using a Psion with Overchannel, since she can use the spells she knows at will (IE none Vancian) and has been shown to overexert herself using magic (IE none Vancian).

I think Pathfinder has a Psion equivalent, so I would look into that.

If she is a wizard she needs continuous items of Telekinesis, otherwise the wizard won't be much like her at all.

haplessvictim
2012-09-11, 04:26 PM
Dodging your original question, why not go full pony?

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Ponyfinder
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/traditional-game-ponyfinder.html

zimmerwald1915
2012-09-11, 05:55 PM
Spells to have, with descriptions and in-universe names from mlpwiki (http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Twilight_Sparkle):

Gust of Wind: used to make the wind blow through river reeds (no.16)
Disguise Other: enables the growth of facial hair (no.25), attempts to make cutie marks appear on Apple Bloom's flank
Animate Objects: move her plow (come to life spell) [problem: not on sorcerer/wizard list. Self-researched?]
Polymorph Any Object: attempts to turn rocks into formal attire [possibly not fully known yet, as attempt was unsuccessful]...changes an apple into a cart [or maybe she does know it. Who knows?]
Fly: allows non-Pegasus ponies to walk on clouds and possess temporary wings
Locate Object: senses gems
Shatter: hatches a dragon from its egg
Polymorph: [changes] mice into horses [because changing a mouse into a horse is easier than changing an apple into a cart? RPGs are weird.]
Share Memory: returns her friends to normal after being corrupted by Discord (memory spell)
Unnatural Lust: makes an object wanted by anyone who lays eyes on it (want it need it spell)
???: a spell from the Star Swirl the Bearded wing allowing her to travel back in time [problem: not a spell she knows, and possibly Epic/Mythic (Pathfinder's name for Epic). High UMD?]
Forcecage: surrounds the library with a force field...The same force field, but smaller, is used in MMMystery on the Friendship Express to protect the cake
Battering Blast: shoots concussive blasts from her horn
Dispel Magic: undoes a changeling's disguise spell
Mass Suggestion: casts a spell on the parasprites in Swarm of the Century so they won't eat food
Limited Wish: fix everything (failsafe spell)
Teleport: teleport other beings...able to teleport herself and three other individuals a considerable distance to safety, with great effort
Resilient Sphere: envelop her and others around her with a magic bubble [similar to forcecage, but smaller area]
Mage Hand & Telekinesis: levitates the ursa minor...effortlessly harvests an entire apple orchard at once...repairs a breached hydroelectric dam

Conjuration (teleportation) school power: ability to teleport

Spontaneous telekinesis without magic items can be achieved by either the feat tree Spell Focus: Transmutation - Spell Specialization (telekinesis) - Greater Spell Specialization (telekinesis) or the feat tree Heighten Spell - Preferred Spell (telekinesis) [with Preferred Spell (mage hand) for low levels]. Or perhaps both, so she can have Mage Hand as her preferred spell and telekinesis as her specialized spell. This allows for spontaneous high-level and low-level telekinesis.

tl;dr - Twilight Sparkle can be modeled as a neutral good or lawful good teleportation-subschool Conjurer opposing...well, it's Pathfinder, it doesn't matter...she doesn't use Necromancy and her Enchantment spells tend to backfire or not work as intended, so probably those...hmm, maybe Twilight's an optimizer...with a bonded creature and with the following feats if an elf:
1 HD - Heighten Spell
3 HD - Reach Spell (since Twilight's spells don't follow D&D's ranges, let's make them variable)
5 HD - Enlarge Spell (continuing that theme, let's make those ranges extra-long)
Wizard 5 - Fast Study
7 HD - Improved Familiar (faerie dragon [only if NG]/pseudodragon - before this she should have an owl familiar)
9 HD - Preferred Spell (telekinesis)
Wizard 10 - Opposition Research

And with the following feats if a human:
Human - Spell Focus (transmutation)
1 HD - Heighten Spell
3 HD - Reach Spell (since Twilight's spells don't follow D&D's ranges, let's make them variable)
5 HD - Enlarge Spell (continuing that theme, let's make those ranges extra-long)
Wizard 5 - Fast Study
7 HD - Improved Familiar (faerie dragon [only if NG]/pseudodragon - before this she should have an owl familiar)
9 HD - Preferred Spell (telekinesis)
Wizard 10 - Opposition Research.

Huh. I kinda want to play this character now, complete with perform (song).

ShneekeyTheLost
2012-09-11, 06:02 PM
Oh, MLP reference. Whew. I saw Twilight and Sparkle, and was afraid I was going to have to break out the flamethrower to get rid of the faux-vampires...

Crasical
2012-09-11, 06:12 PM
Oh, MLP reference. Whew. I saw Twilight and Sparkle, and was afraid I was going to have to break out the flamethrower to get rid of the faux-vampires...

... Because it's so much worse to be a fan of Twilight than My Little Pony...?:smallconfused:

zimmerwald1915
2012-09-11, 06:13 PM
... Because it's so much worse to be a fan of Twilight than My Little Pony...?:smallconfused:
You seem confused. I love and tolerate that about you.

Saidoro
2012-09-11, 06:28 PM
Mage hand is a cantrip so it can be cast at-will. Choosing it as a preferred spell is a waste of a feat. You don't need spell mastery for it either, you can just leave it prepared. opposition research might be a good use for that level 10 slot, spell mastery is pretty pointless in most campaigns. Quicken spell would give the ability to cast multiple spells at once a la boast busted. Spell perfection (Telekinesis) would be a good level 15 feat pick if you get that far. Fast study would be a good pick for the level 5 wizard slot over Spell mastery.

zimmerwald1915
2012-09-11, 06:34 PM
Mage hand is a cantrip so it can be cast at-will. Choosing it as a preferred spell is a waste of a feat.
Ah, you're right, my mistake. Bump up Preferred Spell to her ninth-level feat, then, and remove Spell Specialization and its cousin.


You don't need spell mastery for it either, you can just leave it prepared.
Yeah, I just came off taking an LSAT practice test, my mind's a bit frazzled.


opposition research might be a good use for that level 10 slot, spell mastery is pretty pointless in most campaigns.
Hmm, a way for Twilight to get those Enchantment spells after all? I like it.


Quicken spell would give the ability to cast multiple spells at once a la boast busted.
Many spells at once can be explained by different durations, but sure, why not, Quicken's a good feat.


Spell perfection (Telekinesis) would be a good level 15 feat pick if you get that far.
The build doesn't quite come into its own until level 5 spells are available, so high level play is not out of the question.


Fast study would be a good pick for the level 5 wizard slot over Spell mastery.
Perhaps. I actually caught my mistake with Spell Mastery and replaced them with the range-modifying metamagics because MLP spells don't have the same range qualifications as D&D spells, but with the eviction of Spell Specialization etc. from the list there are some slots available.

EDIT: I managed to work in Fast Study and Opposition Research to both builds by removing Spell Specialization and Greater Spell Specialization. Quicken Spell, however, will have to wait until level 11.

danzibr
2012-09-11, 07:51 PM
Oh, MLP reference. Whew. I saw Twilight and Sparkle, and was afraid I was going to have to break out the flamethrower to get rid of the faux-vampires...

... Because it's so much worse to be a fan of Twilight than My Little Pony...?:smallconfused:
It'd actually be cool to see what the Twilight sparkle would do. Constantly under the effects of Glitterdust?

Tvtyrant
2012-09-11, 08:43 PM
It'd actually be cool to see what the Twilight sparkle would do. Constantly under the effects of Glitterdust?

Wouldn't that blind you and keep you from becoming invisible? I think it would more sense if you had a glitterdust aura which blinds and makes visible everything in the areas threatened by it.

zimmerwald1915
2012-09-11, 09:59 PM
Why wouldn't it simply Dazzle everyone that looks at you? So not only does the effect look dumb, it actually imposes a really sub-par condition. :smallamused:

grarrrg
2012-09-11, 10:17 PM
Wouldn't that blind you and keep you from becoming invisible? I think it would more sense if you had a glitterdust aura which blinds and makes visible everything in the areas threatened by it.

First off, I blame the Wife.
It is her fault I know anything about this at all...

It would not be a Glitterdust aura, well, it would probably LOOK similar, but the effect is completely different.

It would instead be more like Eagle's Splendor (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/e/eagle-s-splendor), Adoration (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/adoration), and/or Honeyed Tongue (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/h/honeyed-tongue). And it only functions in direct Sunlight.

The Twilight Fairies "vampires" Sparkle in order to be attractive to humans, so that the humans become "mesmerized by their glorious beauty" or something, so that the fairy "vampire" can bite them.

Arcanist
2012-09-11, 10:33 PM
Spells to have, with descriptions and in-universe names from mlpwiki (http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Twilight_Sparkle):


???: a spell from the Star Swirl the Bearded wing allowing her to travel back in time [problem: not a spell she knows, and possibly Epic/Mythic (Pathfinder's name for Epic). High UMD?]

Debatably the single most broken spell in all of D&D (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/pg/20030409b)

See "Spell Component Pouch tricks"

grarrrg
2012-09-11, 10:58 PM
Debatably the single most broken spell in all of D&D (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/pg/20030409b)


Maybe not a good idea....
"In the case that a traveler meets himself, the two travelers instantly lose control and attack each other with every ability and item at their disposal. "

HEY SELF! I came back to warn you ***....DIE!!!!

Tvtyrant
2012-09-12, 12:14 AM
First off, I blame the Wife.
It is her fault I know anything about this at all...

It would not be a Glitterdust aura, well, it would probably LOOK similar, but the effect is completely different.

It would instead be more like Eagle's Splendor (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/e/eagle-s-splendor), Adoration (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/adoration), and/or Honeyed Tongue (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/h/honeyed-tongue). And it only functions in direct Sunlight.

The Twilight Fairies "vampires" Sparkle in order to be attractive to humans, so that the humans become "mesmerized by their glorious beauty" or something, so that the fairy "vampire" can bite them.

I am hardly in a place to judge others. :smallsmile: Although I have to wonder if she made you read them, or if she just told you about them?

Maybe have it act like a Suggestion spell? That would follow the "fall in love with their magical awesomeness" pretty well.

grarrrg
2012-09-12, 07:21 AM
I am hardly in a place to judge others. :smallsmile: Although I have to wonder if she made you read them, or if she just told you about them?

Maybe have it act like a Suggestion spell? That would follow the "fall in love with their magical awesomeness" pretty well.

Thankfully (?) I didn't have to read the books, just go to the Movies when they were in the theater...
When I brought up valid objections to plot points/holes she explained the books were more in depth and such.

Arbane
2012-09-12, 11:19 AM
When I brought up valid objections to plot points/holes she explained the books were more in depth and such.

Wait, you had to watch the movie WITHOUT RiffTrax? You poor, poor soul. :smallbiggrin:

If you want a good (and FUNNY) analysis of the series, check out Mark Reads Twilight (so you don't have to) (http://markreads.net/reviews/2010/11/complete-mark-reads-twilight-archive/).