Elder_Kin
2012-09-15, 08:57 PM
I've searched my butt off trying to find something like this on the Internet.
I love the flavor of the Ur-Priest, they are the ultimate anti-theist. They know gods are real for sure, but they don't really like them. It's rough getting into the class though. Sure you can do it as an evil cleric with the trickery domain, but why waste your first five levels? Fortunately there are classes like the Human paragon that let you pick your skills (it might even advance the casting faster :smallcool:). But then the number of spells you have blows. Sure at level 15 you've got 9th level spells, but you're cast 17 fewer spells per day than a cleric of equal level (55 vs 38) and you're behind in cumulative spell level (142 vs 133). Well I found a solution. The Mystic from Dragon Magazine 274.
Now the Mystic to most spell casting classes is terrible. It's a 10 lvl prestige class with relatively easy entry requirements. It seems good at first, on odd numbered levels you get 2 extra spells per day of any level you can cast (though you can only add one to your highest level) and on even numbered levels you get 3 (you can only add one extra spell per day at your highest level). But there's no casting progression. So say you're a 10th level wizard and you take the PrC or even 15th level, it doesn't advance your casting, only number of spells per day. So you're stuck with a bunch of 5th or 8th level spells. Not terrible but not worth the effort. The Ur-priest doesn't have this problem because casting progression ends at lvl 15. So now you've got 5 levels of Mystic to take, that's 12 extra spells per-day. If you've got a cheesy DM and take paragon and he or she says it retroactively increases your progression that's an extra 17 spells per day, 7 of which can be 9th level. You'd actually be out casting an equal leveled cleric for 9th level spells. It's only 1 but it's better than what you had before.
I love the flavor of the Ur-Priest, they are the ultimate anti-theist. They know gods are real for sure, but they don't really like them. It's rough getting into the class though. Sure you can do it as an evil cleric with the trickery domain, but why waste your first five levels? Fortunately there are classes like the Human paragon that let you pick your skills (it might even advance the casting faster :smallcool:). But then the number of spells you have blows. Sure at level 15 you've got 9th level spells, but you're cast 17 fewer spells per day than a cleric of equal level (55 vs 38) and you're behind in cumulative spell level (142 vs 133). Well I found a solution. The Mystic from Dragon Magazine 274.
Now the Mystic to most spell casting classes is terrible. It's a 10 lvl prestige class with relatively easy entry requirements. It seems good at first, on odd numbered levels you get 2 extra spells per day of any level you can cast (though you can only add one to your highest level) and on even numbered levels you get 3 (you can only add one extra spell per day at your highest level). But there's no casting progression. So say you're a 10th level wizard and you take the PrC or even 15th level, it doesn't advance your casting, only number of spells per day. So you're stuck with a bunch of 5th or 8th level spells. Not terrible but not worth the effort. The Ur-priest doesn't have this problem because casting progression ends at lvl 15. So now you've got 5 levels of Mystic to take, that's 12 extra spells per-day. If you've got a cheesy DM and take paragon and he or she says it retroactively increases your progression that's an extra 17 spells per day, 7 of which can be 9th level. You'd actually be out casting an equal leveled cleric for 9th level spells. It's only 1 but it's better than what you had before.