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Cranthis
2012-10-13, 02:14 AM
Quick question me and a friend are debating about, for Steal Spell. He was asleep, so I just repeatedly touched him and took all of his spells (he was being an ass while he was conscious) but he says that, even though he is asleep, I actually have to attack him to take it, since he would be unwilling while conscious. I disagree. He is unconscious and has no ability to choose. Any help would be appreciated.
Medic!
2012-10-13, 02:15 AM
AFAIK unconcious always means willing
In D&D too *badum-psh*
Cranthis
2012-10-13, 02:16 AM
I have no idea what AFAIK is.
Also, do you have a source.
Medic!
2012-10-13, 02:20 AM
As Far As I Know (sorry, accronyms are AIDS)
From the Rules Compendium p.134 (under Targetting)
(because I can search it easier than my DMG PDF)
Willing Targets
Some spells are restricted
to willing
targets only. Declaring
yourself as a willing
target is something
that can be done at any
time, even if you’re fl atfooted
or it isn’t your
turn. Unconscious
creatures are considered
willing, but
a creature that
is conscious but
immobile or helpless—
such as one
who is bound, cowering,
grappling,
paralyzed, pinned,
or stunned—isn’t automatically
willing.
EDIT: On a side note, I absolutely love this idea.
Cranthis
2012-10-13, 02:31 AM
Can I find that anywhere else?
Medic!
2012-10-13, 02:37 AM
Target or Targets (for spells) from the SRD. (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/spellDescriptions.htm#targetorTargets)
Cranthis
2012-10-13, 02:42 AM
Thats for things with saves, not steal spell. I might need a little more verification.
IIRC Steal Spell doesn't grant a save, it only requires a Touch Attack.
So yes you do have to attack him.
The attack roll should be trivial though, and if you should miss - well he's still asleep.
I'm not sure if that would wake him up, or maybe trigger some other defence he may have ?
You can hit him to deal non-lethal damage
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