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[demigodus]

I was thinking of making a character who just stands and laughs at spells bounce off of him, by getting insane save bonus (Paladin of Slaughter 2 + Black Guard 2 + Hexblade 2 = 3x cha to saves), and having both mattle and evasion (Hexblade 3 + Rogue 2). This way, if a spell offers a save, the character just shrugs it off.

To make this work though, there are a few more things I need, and I'm not sure how many of them exist in the system. The things I'm mostly looking for are:

a) a way to force all spells to have saves. I remember reading a similar feat somewhere, just not sure where. For the record, the DM allows Sword and Sorcery books, so may have been one of those

b) a way to not fail saves on a natural one. There is steadfast determination for fort, but that leaves me with the ability to fail will and reflex saves on a bad day

c) a way to force spell casters to target me. Anything that draws spells towards me is a good thing in this case.

Does anyone know of any ways to make these happen?

[eggs]

a) a way to force all spells to have saves.
Divine spells only, but Exemplars of Evil's Divine Denial feat does that.


b) a way to not fail saves on a natural one.
Pride Domain forces a reroll on a 1, which is close enough for most purposes. Or Imbue Healing: Luck, but that's less reliable.

[Zetapup]

I suppose another option for b would be the feat Dumb Luck, which lets you once per day as an immediate action treat a natural 1 on a save as a natural 20. It's... not a very good feat, especially given the requirements, but I figure it's nice to know extra options.

[Kelb_Panthera]

You can negate natural ones on a reflex save by gaining the withstand class feature. You always make a concentration check instead of a reflex save and you don't autofail skill checks on a one. Kensai grants it, and I'd swear I've seen it on at least one other PrC as well.

[TuggyNE]

and you don't autofail skill checks on a one.

To clarify: the quoted text is not a benefit of the class feature in question, but is simply the usual rule for all skill checks, no matter who's making them.

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[Amidus Drexel]

The Steadfast Determination feat lets you not autofail Fort saves on a natural 1. (It also lets you use your constitution on will saves, although I don't think that's as important to you as a paladin; as there is a feat that lets you use charisma instead of wisdom on will saves. Force of Personality (I think))

[demigodus]

Divine spells only, but Exemplars of Evil's Divine Denial feat does that.

Pride Domain forces a reroll on a 1, which is close enough for most purposes. Or Imbue Healing: Luck, but that's less reliable.

Well, these should help. Now I just need something against no-save arcane spells, and spells only affect me 0.25% of the time. Or 0% for fort saves. (I was thinking of taking luck feats, but that seems like an inefficient waste of feats).


You can negate natural ones on a reflex save by gaining the withstand class feature. You always make a concentration check instead of a reflex save and you don't autofail skill checks on a one. Kensai grants it, and I'd swear I've seen it on at least one other PrC as well.

Sadly this would require me to revamp the character. The build focuses on buffing up saves: my concentration wouldn't be too high.

Though I suppose I could go Necropolitan + Marshal 1 + warblade to get double my cha to concentration, and make concentration checks in place of saves. Than I just need a way to get more swift actions (I'm thinking Ruby Knight Vindicator, but I would still need to spend class levels on evasion and mattle).

[Madara]

ways to get mettle


Hexblade 3
Pious Templar 1, ecl 6, Complete divine
Vigilante 9, ecl 14, Complete Adventurer
Witch Slayer 2, ecl 7, Tome of Magic
Sohei
Crusader 13, Tome of Battle
Deneith Warden 5, ecl 9, Eberron: Dragonmarked
Master Specialist (abjuration) 7, ecl 10, Complete Mage - works for all saves, see text
Argent Fist 8, ecl 13, Faiths of Eberron
Hellreaver 4, ecl 9, Fiendish Codex II
Kinslayer 1, ecl ?, Drow of the Underdark

ways to get evasion



Astral Dancer 2 (4), ecl 7 (9), Planar Handbook - first value in zero-G, bracket value in normal circumstances
Chameleon 3, ecl 8, Races of Destiny, see text
Cipher Adept 2, ecl 9, Planar Handbook
Combat Medic 4, ecl 9, Heroes of Battle
Dungeon Delver 4, ecl 11, Complete Adventurer
Loredelver 3, ecl 10, Races of Destiny
Monk 2
Ninja 12
Ranger 9
Rogue 2
Scout 5
Shadow Scout, OA
Shadowdancer 2
Survivor 2, ecl 3, Savage Species
Extreme Explorer 2, ecl 6, Eberron Campaign Setting
Initiate of the Draconic Mysteries 1, ecl 6, Draconomicon
Master Thrower 2, ecl 7 (CW)
Great Raptor Mask, soulmeld, Magic of Incarnum
Impulse Boots, soulmeld, Magic of Incarnum
Riding Bracers, soulmeld, Magic of Incarnum, for your mount
Combat Medic 4, ecl 9, Heroes of Battle
Swordsage 9, Tome of Battle
Master Specialist (abjuration) 7, ecl 10, Complete Mage - works for all saves, see text
Lurk 9, Complete Psionic
Aglarondan Griffonrider 2, ecl 9, FR: Unapproachable East - only while mounted

Ring of Evasion, ring, DMG, works in armour

Thought I might mention Slippery Mind

Rogue 10
Shadowdancer 7, ecl 14
Spymaster 4, ecl 9, Complete Adventurer
Spirit Shaman 5, Complete Divine
Contemplative 2, ecl 12, Complete Divine
Spirit Shaman 5, Complete Divine, "follow the guide"
Lurk 15, Complete Psionic
Mountebank 7, ecl 12, Complete Scoundrel
Binder 9, Tome of Magic
Witch Slayer 4, ecl 9, Tome of Magic
Dragon Descendant 4, ecl 9, Dragon Magic
Ninja Spy 9, ecl 16, Oriental Adventures
Yakuza 10, ecl 17, Oriental Adventures
Zhentarim Spy 4, ecl 10(9?), FR: Player's Guide to Faerun
Night Mask Deathbringer 6, ecl 11, FR: Champions of Ruin
Eldeen Ranger (Gatekeeper) 5, ECL 10, Eberron campaign Setting
Silver Key 8, ecl 11, Eberron: Dragonmarked
Gatekeeper Mystagogue 6, ecl 11, Player's Guide to Eberron
Deepwarden 5, ecl 10, Races of Stone, "Stubborn Mind"

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