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Aldurin
2013-06-11, 01:30 PM
Keeping the sheet private does make sense, as the now-NPC Hagan may end up having a hand in the remaining player deaths depending on how reckless people are. And honestly what little Rizban explained makes me frightened to even shop at Hagan's. But then it sounds like I can get good deals on magic item trade-ins, so it's really a matter of "Do I go with my current suboptimal loot, or trade it in for something better that may or may not explode and kill me." It'll probably be taking the risk since it sounds like Ishmael is the only character close to figuring out that Hagan rigs everything to explode, so of course my character will have no clue.

Moranica
2013-06-11, 02:11 PM
I was one of the DMs and I also have not seen Hagan sheet I believe!

And you are welcome Bob! Its always good to know I ticked off a player... it has become a habit with Moranica's character. He hates half the NPCs he has to deal with on a daily basis! :D

You forgot to mention, that when I finally met a grumpy old kobold shaman, that I really liked, you killed him a couple of pages later. And somehow, the other person/gnome he really liked has become, through circumstance of course, his mortal enemy and nemesis.

I do believe you are slowly wrecking Scribly's emotional side and turning him into a monster. :smallbiggrin:

planswalker
2013-06-11, 07:03 PM
Keeping the sheet private does make sense, as the now-NPC Hagan may end up having a hand in the remaining player deaths depending on how reckless people are. And honestly what little Rizban explained makes me frightened to even shop at Hagan's. But then it sounds like I can get good deals on magic item trade-ins, so it's really a matter of "Do I go with my current suboptimal loot, or trade it in for something better that may or may not explode and kill me." It'll probably be taking the risk since it sounds like Ishmael is the only character close to figuring out that Hagan rigs everything to explode, so of course my character will have no clue.

best I know, most of the people that are still alive survived this long by NOT being reckless.

Also, feel free to do business in Hagan's shop safely. You'll only die a quick and painful death if you are stupid and try to attack or rob him. As long as you act like a civilized, law-abiding customer, you will have no problems.

bobthe6th
2013-06-11, 07:10 PM
That seems to be the rule in the city. Act like a sane, law abiding person with some spontaneous blindness in the upscale parts of the city, you live... but that is just boring.

planswalker
2013-06-11, 07:23 PM
... aren't you the one who suggested feeding people prestidigitated dry flour in that one (non-avb) sandbox game where we freed some slaves and needed to feed them?

bobthe6th
2013-06-11, 07:51 PM
...Says the dragonborn sorcerer that was making the moves on a walrus? Heavy, heavy wisdom damage none withstanding. I mean, we had the flour... would be a shame to see it go to waste. With prestidigitation and some water it would be like Kool-aid... flavored paste.

That is still probably the least serious party I have ever been in... including the game I played at 12-13 run by my sister, when the concept of spell slots or "limits" were kinda missing.

also, thank you for reminding me, this will be nearly a month waiting for me to post. :smallredface:

planswalker
2013-06-11, 08:03 PM
well, when a silverbrow human picks up amethyst dragin heritage, you know he's silly.

Rizban
2013-06-12, 12:22 PM
Best I know, I am the only one besides Rizban to have seen his sheet.

This is truth.

Hagan does have a few weaknesses, but he covers them well with his gear.

The sheet remains private mostly because I don't want to have to spot ban clone builds in future games or alter my standard rule set. Granted, the majority of his power came from the very nature of AVB and the way he approached it. Really, Hagan wouldn't be nearly so powerful in a different game. A semi-solo sandbox with other players dumping their gear on him and buying new gear from him provided a steady stream of gold and raw materials that were the core of his concept. Without that, he simply wouldn't have the resources available to become so insanely brutal in combat.


His second, but much, much slower source of income was simply buying +1 weapons at market price, breaking them down for their XP, making more +1 weapons, and selling them at half market price, later at 60% market price to a contracted buyer. Yes, Hagan had so many tricks in his build that he could actually make a profit doing this. By churning out 4 or 5 +1 weapons, he could make a few hundred gold each day.


On another note, Hagan used a combination of magics, psionics, and ingenuity to create a cell phone network. For only a few thousand gold, you too can own your very own cell phone, guaranteed to never explode, as he never added traps to those. The "phones" establish a telepathic connection to anyone else who has a phone and answers your call, allowing for bidirectional telepathic communication. The only downside is that it only works within the city and about a mile outside of the wall. It would have taken almost five times as much gold and experience to boost the range farther than that.

Moranica
2013-06-12, 01:32 PM
The phones are nice, but I dislike the slot their taking up. Also, switching phones to call another person is a bit of a hasle.

I want an earpiece, which easy adding of numbers.

Rizban
2013-07-23, 06:42 AM
Just to clarify, the phones can connect to anyone who wears one and is within a mile or so of the city walls. You just have to know the person to try to contact them.

Moranica
2013-07-23, 12:00 PM
Alright, I thought they were tuned to specific people. Shame I sold a couple then.

Also, welcome back! :smallbiggrin:

Rizban
2013-07-23, 12:11 PM
Well, each is tuned to its owner. Only the owner could use it. If you looted one, it would be obvious (to an expert) who it originally belonged to. Think of it as stealing someone's phone. It still has their number in it. You can, of course, put a different number in it, but it takes a specialist with the right crafting feat.

Moranica
2013-07-23, 12:31 PM
I see. I need lackeys now, to wear them. :smallbiggrin:

Monodominant
2013-07-23, 12:45 PM
Actually you are not using that tech Moranica, The ones the organisation currently has are simpler rings of communication.

Perhaps when you PC finds out about Rizbans invention you can help them bring in this new tech in their ranks!

Also, apologies for not having updated the thread... been very busy with work and stuff. Will update most likely tomorrow and then should be back on usual pace.

omnitricks
2013-07-23, 01:06 PM
Wait a sec...is this game back? o.0

Rizban
2013-07-23, 01:45 PM
No, it's not back on. There are just a few characters still going under the other DMs.

Moranica
2013-07-23, 02:23 PM
Aha, I thought so. Well, since I trust absolutely no one (except for a couple of dead guys), the communication problems suit me just fine. :smallbiggrin:

And no problem. I'll be catching up with Dreifus btw.

He's come up in my rl group now as well (which I DM). Playing kingmaker there and the group was looking for a new councilmember to fill in as grand magister. So the local guild had an odd member (Dreifus) to spare.

Several sessions later one of the player decided to switch to a caster himself, so Dreifus was brutily attacked randomly. Of course he escaped and joined up with the troll king to wage brutal war on their kingdom. He's fully turned nemesis now and has become quite powerful. They'll be facing him soon. :smallbiggrin: Or they'll fall for his cunning plan and walk into a tome of horrors kind of dungeon.