Geomancer: infinite spells per day?

[Pinkie Pyro]

one of the geomancer's class feats, "spell versatility" allows the character to select any of the ways to cast a spell from his other spell casting classes, and mash them together as much as he wants. IE: you could cast arcane spells as divine, with no chance of arcane spell failure.

however, using this class, 3 levels of wizard, 3 levels of cleric, and 1 level of warlock, you can cast all spells from either wizard of cleric as warlock invocations, and with divine spells no spell failure to be able to cast any number of spells per day, while wearing full sets of the best armor, without penalty.

and, even if it wouldn't, for some reason, substituting 1 level of sorcerer for warlock would allow you to cast all your known wizzard spells spontaneously.

my question is: can anyone find a reason this wouldn't work? besides the DM calling BS?

[Urpriest]

Warlocks aren't spellcasters, so this doesn't work. The Sorceror example doesn't work either, since you explicitly prepare your spells as the original class.

[Pinkie Pyro]

Warlocks aren't spellcasters, so this doesn't work. The Sorceror example doesn't work either, since you explicitly prepare your spells as the original class.

does it ever explicitly state warlocks aren't spellcasters? nor that their invokations count as "spells", at least on some level?

the geomancer class does not state that the parameters for your spellcasting have to come from a spellcasting class, so even if warlocks don't count as spellcasters, if their invokations count as spells, it still should work.

but yeah, completely missed the "prepares spells the same way" bit. sorcerer doesn't work. oops.

[Urpriest]

does it ever explicitly state warlocks aren't spellcasters? nor that their invokations count as "spells", at least on some level?

the geomancer class does not state that the parameters for your spellcasting have to come from a spellcasting class, so even if warlocks don't count as spellcasters, if their invokations count as spells, it still should work.

but yeah, completely missed the "prepares spells the same way" bit. sorcerer doesn't work. oops.

It never states that they are spellcasters, and their invocations are explicitly not spells, since they are explicitly SLAs.

[BowStreetRunner]

Complete Arcane, which introduced the Warlock class, covers this many different times throughout the sections dealing with Warlocks.

"A warlock does not prepare or cast spells as other wielders of arcane magic do...A warlock’s invocations are spell-like abilities...spell-like abilities are not actually spells...A warlock cannot qualify for prestige classes with spellcasting level requirements, as he never actually learns to cast spells."

[Pinkie Pyro]

well, thanks for clearing that up, then.

[Malroth]

Yeah i'm fairly certian if Geomancers could Dip Warlock for infinite spells there'd be dozens of builds using that trick all over the forum. However a spellcaster that knows Energy transformation field could dip warlock 1 to cast a single spell an infinite number of times at a given location.