An interesting character

[Cranthis]

So, basically, I want to use at least 2 or 3 templates that have 0 LA, and would stack with each other.

If this works well, I am going to use it as my next character. Should my duskblade (Half-vampire named Nathair Nimhe) die, which I doubt, or when we have a new campaign.

[Zombulian]

Arctic Wild Spark. +2 con -2 wis +2 str -2 int. Dragon Magazine 306. Also you get a few nifty SLA's.

Edit: Shove Unseelie Fey on there too if you yknow... don't have integrity.

[Cranthis]

I can't find this Arctic Wild Spark

[The Bandicoot]

I can't find this Arctic Wild Spark

I believe each word is a seperate template. So Arctic, Wild, and Spark

[Cranthis]

I believe each word is a seperate template. So Arctic, Wild, and Spark
Then I will search for each!

[Zombulian]

Then I will search for each!

As I said, they are in Dragon Mag 306. In the Racial Variants section.

[Cranthis]

I can not access Dragon Mag. I'm allowed to use material from it, but I can never get to it. But while those are interesting, they don't fit what I would do.

[TuggyNE]

I believe each word is a seperate template. So Arctic, Wild, and Spark

IIRC Arctic isn't actually a template, but a group of broadly similar variant races (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/environmentalRacialVariants.htm#arcticRaces) (e.g. Arctic Goblin, Arctic Elf, etc).

[Zombulian]

IIRC Arctic isn't actually a template, but a group of broadly similar variant races (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/environmentalRacialVariants.htm#arcticRaces) (e.g. Arctic Goblin, Arctic Elf, etc).

Arctic or "Ice Dweller" IS in fact a template. In Dragon Magazine. 306... I feel I have said this before.

Edit: Also kinda hard for me to help... when you haven't told me what you would do...

[TuggyNE]

Arctic or "Ice Dweller" IS in fact a template. In Dragon Magazine. 306... I feel I have said this before.

Ah, my mistake. I'm not too familiar with DrMag stuff.

[Gnorman]

Dragonborn Water Orc for a nifty +4 to Strength and Constitution (but a -2 to everything else). Makes for a great martial character right off the bat.

If you're able to somehow argue that "lesser tiefling" is not a race but a template that could be added, you could have a net total of:

+4 Strength, +4 Constitution, -2 Wisdom, -4 Charisma.

Plus, you're a fiendish dragon orc. What's not to love? Oh, the fact that you'd have to refluff dragonborn pretty heavily. But that's not that hard: maybe Tiamat took a page from her rival's handbook?

The aasimar version would have: +4 Strength, +4 Constitution, -2 Dexterity, -2 Intelligence. Would make for a decent paladin-type, and you could easily explain the ancestry as Bahamut marking or blessing your "dragonbirth".

[Cranthis]

Any suggestions for a not martial character?

[Gnorman]

Harder to do, because there aren't any legitimate LA 0 templates that increase mental statistics and are not from Dragon / third party materials. At least, that I know of.

Necropolitan lesser tiefling grey elf? Penalties to strength and charisma, bonuses to dexterity and intelligence, no Constitution? Necropolitan's not really LA 0, though.

[Cranthis]

If the third party source is a published one, I can probably use it. I can also use DragonMagazine, I just have a hard time accessing it.

[Diovid]

Unseelie Fey + Magic-Blooded + Venerable Age + a race with a charisma boost.

[Namfuak]

Unseelie Fey + Magic-Blooded + Venerable Age + a race with a charisma boost.

Star elf comes to mind, if you want to take advantage of elf racial variant wizard options.

[Cranthis]

That could work, as I know a few ways to be venerable age, but still retain physical stats, and don't need to die

[Darius Kane]

Huh... So this days "cheesy" means "interesting"?

[Diovid]

Star elf comes to mind, if you want to take advantage of elf racial variant wizard options.
Lesser Aasimar and Spellscale are also good choices.

[Urpriest]

If you're able to somehow argue that "lesser tiefling" is not a race but a template that could be added, you could have a net total of:


Is there a way to argue that? I can't think of anything that might work. After all, tieflings are explicitly humans with fiendish ancestry, as there exist other fiendish planetouched descended from the other races. So it's not a fluff argument.

[Gnorman]

Is there a way to argue that? I can't think of anything that might work. After all, tieflings are explicitly humans with fiendish ancestry, as there exist other fiendish planetouched descended from the other races. So it's not a fluff argument.

They do exist, yes, but are generally campaign-specific.

I was just thinking of some way to craft a race-stacking argument - like a tiefling orc, or a tiefling elf, or a tiefling elf.

The counterargument would be yours - fey'ri, tanarruk, maeluth, et cetera.

But depending on the level of cheese allowed, it's a (remote) possibility.

[Zombulian]

Let me direct you to a friend (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=6992.0) of mine.

[Snowbluff]

Is there a way to argue that? I can't think of anything that might work. After all, tieflings are explicitly humans with fiendish ancestry, as there exist other fiendish planetouched descended from the other races. So it's not a fluff argument.

Except that Half-Orcs are Human too. Like, Homo-Sapiens, since they can mate with Humans.

Dragonborn Mongrelfolk. Add silly templates to taste. Achieve massive Con.

[Urpriest]

Except that Half-Orcs are Human too. Like, Homo-Sapiens, since they can mate with Humans.

Dragonborn Mongrelfolk. Add silly templates to taste. Achieve massive Con.

D&D race and species are entirely different concepts.

[Snowbluff]

D&D race and species are entirely different concepts.

Except that Tiefling-ism is hereditary. Things fall apart there.

[Zombulian]

Except that Half-Orcs are Human too. Like, Homo-Sapiens, since they can mate with Humans.

Dragonborn Mongrelfolk. Add silly templates to taste. Achieve massive Con.

Dragonborn Obese Arctic Lesser Ooze Paragenasi.
Play a Totemist. Slap on a Basilisk Mask and turn people to stone all the time. Then use a Yrthak mask to blow em to bits with sonic damage. Do whatever you want with the rest of the build, character, and flavor ideas.

[Gnorman]

Dragonborn Obese Arctic Lesser Ooze Paragenasi.
Play a Totemist. Slap on a Basilisk Mask and turn people to stone all the time. Then use a Yrthak mask to blow em to bits with sonic damage. Do whatever you want with the rest of the build, character, and flavor ideas.

Trying to imagine this enormous, blubbery, slimy mess of a character concept makes me giggle.

It's awesome, but it makes me giggle.

I AM THE WALRUS!

[Venusaur]

Venerable Dragonwrought Desert/Jungle Kobold. That is what we call a good caster race. Slap on Unseelie Fey for more hilarity, or dump Con and go Necropolitan.

[Mithril Leaf]

Alright, stack all the templates! First off, we're a lesser cansin, because chaos does lend itself to silly breeding like this, +2 int, +2 cha. Then we throw on arctic, desert, spark, and wild, +2 str, +2 con, -2 wis total. Throw on aquatic now, so we're at +2 str, -2 dex, +2 con, -2 wis. Unseelie Fey time, you negate all your strength, dexterity, and constitution stuff, ending up with -2 wis, +2 cha. Also, you have a ton of minor skill boosts and can breath underwater. Interesting it worked out that way.