BTB
2012-11-04, 07:10 PM
This is something I'd like to try, using anything non-third party on the Pathfinder SRD. I've always loved shadowdancers, but was unsure of how to keep them effective in combat. I thought about the Paladin 10/Shadowdancer 10 route, but I generally don't like them as a personal rule, what with the Paladin falling horror stories, I always feel so limited, and from wht I can see this seems to be the next best option. This is more conceptual so I'm not sure what out of combat role to build for, on one hand Shadowdancer scouting abilities point me towards disabling traps and playing something similar to a rogue outside of battle, while the naturally high CHA encouraged by both the Shadowdancer and Bard points towards being the face (an interesting prospect for one who lives in darkness.)
I'm not worried about out of combat utility, as bards get an excellent range of skills and I can probably build to most out of combat roles needed, depending on the party. I'm more worried about keeping this viable as a combatant, using the Dervish's self buffing abilities as a base part of the strategy, as well as the Dervish Dancer feat.
Shadowdancer: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/core-rulebook/shadowdancer
Dawnflower Dervish Bard: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/archetypes/paizo---bard-archetypes/dawnflower-dervish
Bard: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard
I also don't really see the need to go beyond 5 (for Inspire Courage +2) or 6 (for the second versatile performance) levels of Dawnflower Dervish Bard, which raises the question of what I could do with those other levels, and at what point to start the Shadowdancer progression.
My main concern is staying relevant combat wise in the higher levels, as I think it may be difficult without full BAB and my spells will quickly become irrelevant once I move out of Bard. Any ideas on how to do that are most appreciated.
I'm not worried about out of combat utility, as bards get an excellent range of skills and I can probably build to most out of combat roles needed, depending on the party. I'm more worried about keeping this viable as a combatant, using the Dervish's self buffing abilities as a base part of the strategy, as well as the Dervish Dancer feat.
Shadowdancer: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/core-rulebook/shadowdancer
Dawnflower Dervish Bard: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/archetypes/paizo---bard-archetypes/dawnflower-dervish
Bard: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard
I also don't really see the need to go beyond 5 (for Inspire Courage +2) or 6 (for the second versatile performance) levels of Dawnflower Dervish Bard, which raises the question of what I could do with those other levels, and at what point to start the Shadowdancer progression.
My main concern is staying relevant combat wise in the higher levels, as I think it may be difficult without full BAB and my spells will quickly become irrelevant once I move out of Bard. Any ideas on how to do that are most appreciated.