Ways to get the: "on a natural 1, reroll" ability.

[TheRinni]

I'm looking for ways to give my character reroll attempts when getting a natural 1 on an attack roll. The game is primarily Pathfinder, with 3.5 content allowed.

The character has already been established as being an elf, so the human-only Defiant Luck feat is out. I'm familiar with the Luck feats from Complete Scoundrel, but I'm looking for something that's less of an investment.

If anyone's curious, I want this to minimize the risk of using a True Crystalline weapon.

[Zdrak]

Can you be a Cleric? The granted power of the Luck domain gives you a reroll 1/day, not sure how efficient this is for you.

[TheRinni]

Can you be a Cleric? The granted power of the Luck domain gives you a reroll 1/day, not sure how efficient this is for you.

No, the character is already a level 7 wizard.

[kitcik]

No, the character is already a level 7 wizard.

Then stop making attack rolls...

(Warblade's Lightning Recovery is great for this, but hard to get as a wizard.)

[Theoboldi]

There's the alter fortune spell in the PH2. It lets you target on creature, so it should work on you, and is of instantious duration. The downside is that you have to pay 200 xp every time you use it. It probably won't help you very much on this issue.

[HunterColt22]

Then stop making attack rolls...

(Warblade's Lightning Recovery is great for this, but hard to get as a wizard.)

This.

Again though, not much is going to give it to you minus, luck feats, luck domain, or a spell slot. Why are you swinging a weapon as a wizard anyway? :smallconfused:You have things to summon that can do that for you.

An edit, those luck feats are not that bad either. Granted the first one you need to take blows considering the options it gives you, but unbelievable luck is a great feat to have at times, +2 luck pool, and also a +2 Luck(or untyped I can't recall) bonus to your worst save as long as you have 1 luck point in the pool left, and if you have two tied for your worst you can choose? Yes please.

[ahenobarbi]

Magic Item Compendium (3.5) has Mantle of Second Chances that gets you one reroll/day for mere 12000gp.

[Morbis Meh]

Amulet of Fortune Prevailing: reroll 1/day 5000 gp Magic Item Compendium

[TheRinni]

Then stop making attack rolls...

Why are you swinging a weapon as a wizard anyway? :smallconfused:You have things to summon that can do that for you.
Because I'm a gish transmutation specialist. Now, back on-topic:


An edit, those luck feats are not that bad either. Granted the first one you need to take blows considering the options it gives you, but unbelievable luck is a great feat to have at times, +2 luck pool, and also a +2 Luck(or untyped I can't recall) bonus to your worst save as long as you have 1 luck point in the pool left, and if you have two tied for your worst you can choose? Yes please.
The feats aren't bad.

Magic Item Compendium (3.5) has Mantle of Second Chances that gets you one reroll/day for mere 12000gp.

One of my favorite items, I can't believe I didn't remember it!

Amulet of Fortune Prevailing: reroll 1/day 5000 gp Magic Item Compendium
This is the most affordable option yet - thank you

There's the alter fortune spell in the PH2. It lets you target on creature, so it should work on you, and is of instantious duration. The downside is that you have to pay 200 xp every time you use it. It probably won't help you very much on this issue.
Hmm... I actually remember my DM allowing me to use this spell in a previous game without paying the xp cost. I wonder if he'd let me do it again.

[kardar233]

I believe there may be a spell in Cityscape that works in that way.

[Lateral]

The Pride domain gives you the ability to reroll a natural one any number of times per day. You can get this ability with a feat- Planar Touchstone, from the Planar Handbook.

[olentu]

The Pride domain gives you the ability to reroll a natural one any number of times per day. You can get this ability with a feat- Planar Touchstone, from the Planar Handbook.

Saves only, I do believe.

[Keld Denar]

You can also get the pride domain power in place of one if your wizard bonus feats every 5 levels. 10th level is coming up, our retain 5. Complete Champ for the ACF.

If you only care about attack rolls, Gauntlets of Fortunate Striking give a 1/day attack roll reroll for 2000g. At that price, you can buy 2-3 sets and swap em out between encounters.

[nedz]

Nice find, but the Luck domain might be more useful.

[Mishkov]

One of the luck feats lets you change it into a 20. That one is better than rerolling! Take the luckstealer prestige class or fatespinner if you really want to go further with the luck theme.

[Zetapup]

One of the luck feats lets you change it into a 20. That one is better than rerolling! Take the luckstealer prestige class or fatespinner if you really want to go further with the luck theme.

That would be the feat Better Lucky than Good from Complete Scoundrel, I believe. Unfortunately, it's not that great because it's only once per day, requires a swift action to activate, at least 6th level, and two luck feats. If there were some way to use it multiple times per day, it would be decent.

[Lateral]

That would be the feat Better Lucky than Good from Complete Scoundrel, I believe. Unfortunately, it's not that great because it's only once per day, requires a swift action to activate, at least 6th level, and two luck feats. If there were some way to use it multiple times per day, it would be decent.
How likely are you to roll a natural one more than once a day?

[Dr.Epic]

Bribe the DM.:smallwink:

[Zetapup]

How likely are you to roll a natural one more than once a day?

True. I wanted to point out the limitations of the feat. I suppose it would be fine with most attack sequences. Two weapon fighting might not be as good with the feat, depending on how many encounters you have (Of course, two weapon fighting is already heavy on feats, so more feats for Better Lucky than Good's requirement might be problematic).

[Acanous]

I believe a Luckblade also grants you a reroll per day, but it's a little on the expensive side.
Still, stacked with the other items and a couple feats...

[Hirax]

Planar touchstone (catalogs of enlightenment) could get you the luck domain power, and a limited ability to cast luck domain spells.

[nedz]

Bribe the DM.:smallwink:

Customise the dice: Make the "1" into a "7" :smalltongue:

[Kelb_Panthera]

Bribe the DM.:smallwink:


Customise the dice: Make the "1" into a "7" :smalltongue:

Remember when cheaters used to be shot? Those were good times huh? :belkar:


(In case it's not clear, don't cheat. Ever. Alienating your friends isn't worth "winning" at D&D.)

[Dr.Epic]

(In case it's not clear, don't cheat. Ever. Alienating your friends isn't worth "winning" at D&D.)

That's why they invented Munchkin.:smallwink:

[only1doug]

How likely are you to roll a natural one more than once a day?

Well, if you are playing a gish and attacking 3+ times / round (you are hasted right?) then you will make 60 attacks in 20 rounds, of which on average 3 will be natural ones, between an average of 4 encounters that is just 5 rounds per encounter so not outside the realms of possibility.

[kitcik]

How likely are you to roll a natural one more than once a day?

In my current campaign, I am a monk/warblade and took 4 attacks in a round: four natural 1's!! I guess after playing 23 years, it was bound to happen eventually. The look of glee on my DM's face was priceless.

[nedz]

Remember when cheaters used to be shot? Those were good times huh? :belkar:


(In case it's not clear, don't cheat. Ever. Alienating your friends isn't worth "winning" at D&D.)
Yes, I (We) were joking.

In my current campaign, I am a monk/warblade and took 4 attacks in a round: four natural 1's!! I guess after playing 23 years, it was bound to happen eventually. The look of glee on my DM's face was priceless.

The odds of this happening are 1:160,000
Given that there are probably several millennia of playing experience in the playground I expect that someone else will have beaten this.
Myself, I have seen the sequence 1-20-20-1 a couple of times, each of which is just as unlikely.

[ahenobarbi]

Yes, I (We) were joking.


The odds of this happening are 1:160,000
Given that there are probably several millennia of playing experience in the playground I expect that someone else will have beaten this.
Myself, I have seen the sequence 1-20-20-1 a couple of times, each of which is just as unlikely.

Well every number sequence is as (un)likely as another. It's just that 8-12-16-7 doesn't draw as much attention as 1-1-1-1 :smallsmile:

EDIT: Multiplication error :smallredface:

[only1doug]

I saw a d6 roll 7 1's in a row( it was a wild dice in a starwars d6 game) it was last seen flying through the air across several gardens, i don't know what result in finally landed on.