Things You Never Noticed III: The Search for Spot [Archive]

Wightsbane

2012-11-11, 07:29 PM

I just realized that when Eugene tried to lecture the diva in 487 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0487.html) on whether Roy could go to Heaven, and she very angrily informed him that he had no authority to be involved in the decision-making process, she was probably specifically remembering the time he impersonated a being of pure Law and Good, by hijacking a summoning, in order to tamper with a trial. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0292.html)

EDIT: The first two threads for reference:
1: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128211

2: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203505

ReaderAt2046

2012-11-11, 09:43 PM

Just noticed panel 6 in 509, where therkla kills the valedictorian ninja.

Oh, and in the first panel here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0517.html), the Wight In Thanh's Shoes has a little smile on his face, probably from getting his shoes.

Agnostik

2012-11-12, 01:14 AM

Just recently noticed that the real King of Nowhere kinda does look like Roy (except for the tufts of gray hair): http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0535.html

EnragedFilia

2012-11-18, 03:13 AM

Reviewing recent strips for the express purpose of coming up with something to post here (and demonstrate how easy it is to find such things in an extremely detailed work like this), I have noticed that in 858 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0858.html) Tarquin alludes to having personal experience with Sabine's most useful skillset (and no points for guessing what that is).

Aside from the obvoius gag, this indicates several things previously only vaguely implied regarding the situation of Tarquin's group prior to the Empire of Blood's most recent revolution: chiefly, that Sabine was involved with the situation prior to the events depicted in the flashback panel of 725 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0725.html). Prior to this, I would have thought it believable that Sabine had (for instance) been sent by the IFCC or perhaps some other Tanar'ri figure with the authority to dispatch a Succubus on a long-term mission specifically to interfere with the machinations of the western continent's shadow rulers.

Wightsbane

2012-11-18, 09:44 AM

So THAT'S how she met Nale!

Who looks exactly like his brother and their father. Whoa. Somebody mentioned that Elan was probably able to distract Sabine so easily by kissing her because he looked exactly like Nale, so was Sabine attracted to Nale because he looked like a younger (and more importantly, less subtle) version of his father?

Ooooh, remember in #46 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0046.html) when she was surprised that Nale was trying subtlety?

You're good.

Ninja_Grand

2012-12-03, 10:27 AM

In #762, 2nd pannel (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0726.html), draw a line from tarqins eyes. Looks like Giant was seting up the joke beforehand.

Adama

2012-12-05, 10:32 PM

I didn't "just" notice this, but I missed it on my first read, and only saw it on subsequent reads, probably because there was so much time between the two strips.

In 758, when Tarquin is describing how he and his cohort rule through puppets, the King of Tears is shown being told that he needs a new port city.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0758.html

Guess what? Exactly 60 strips earlier, when we get to see the map of the western continent, the Free City of Doom (which the Weepies are besieging) is located next to an ocean harbor.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html

Gift Jeraff

2012-12-05, 11:15 PM

I just noticed this thread.

I didn't "just" notice this, but I missed it on my first read, and only saw it on subsequent reads, probably because there was so much time between the two strips.

In 758, when Tarquin is describing how he and his cohort rule through puppets, the King of Tears is shown being told that he needs a new port city.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0758.html

Guess what? Exactly 60 strips earlier, when we get to see the map of the western continent, the Free City of Doom (which the Weepies are besieging) is located next to an ocean harbor.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html

Well, hot damn.

ReaderAt2046

2012-12-07, 03:57 PM

If you look really carefully, you can see Quarr in the first panel of this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0585.html) strip.

Mike Havran

2012-12-18, 05:10 AM

I have just noticed how Durkon is naturally confused (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0269.html)when he sees Celia at the trial, with others greeting her merrily... those two had never met before.

Bacon Elemental

2012-12-18, 05:30 PM

I just noticed Durkons side-comment to Ninja Waitress in 312http://http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0312.html (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0312.html)

ReaderAt2046

2012-12-18, 08:18 PM

In the second panel of this strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0517.html), you can see that the box next to the one Haley is hiding in is labeled "Gouda: Product of Cliffport".

That second part is especially weird because Cliffport doesn't open trade routes with Gobbotopia until here:(http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0702.html), almost 200 strips later. How did that get there?

And it's also really cute how in comic 200 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0200.html) you can see Elan trying to play bardsong with his kazoo. How totally Elan.

ReaderAt2046

2012-12-18, 08:21 PM

Putting up the old threads, just for looking over.

1: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128211

2: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203505

The Linker

2012-12-19, 12:04 AM

In the second panel of this strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0517.html), you can see that the box next to the one Haley is hiding in is labeled "Gouda: Product of Cliffport".

That second part is especially weird because Cliffport doesn't open trade routes with Gobbotopia until here:(http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0702.html), almost 200 strips later. How did that get there?

I'm presuming it's a product of the old trade route between Azure City and Cliffport. The box isn't necessarily filled with anything, so it could be this years-old box left around with the other boxes. Cliffport sends Azure City a box, Azure City takes the cheese and eats it, Azure City leaves the box around, Cliffport cuts off ties when goblins take over Azure City.

MoonCat

2012-12-19, 01:56 AM

Putting up the old threads, just for looking over.

1: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128211

2: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203505

Yeah, that should probably get edited into the OP, plus an explanation of what the thread is.

I'm presuming it's a product of the old trade route between Azure City and Cliffport. The box isn't necessarily filled with anything, so it could be this years-old box left around with the other boxes. Cliffport sends Azure City a box, Azure City takes the cheese and eats it, Azure City leaves the box around, Cliffport cuts off ties when goblins take over Azure City.

However, gouda is a specific fondness of goblins, is it not? Dunno. Which reminds me, those slaves the Resistance liberated in their introduction were carrying food, was that from a raid, or salvage, or what?

Careless

2012-12-23, 06:24 PM

I just noticed that in #759, the giany, flaming "Elan" is spelled with burning escaped slaves. Immediately after Haley and V help some slaves escape, but Haley and V only helped 23 escape, but ELAN had 30 little burning dot. I'm not surprised Tarquin would round up 7 more slaves from somewhere else, but it was interesting.

The Linker

2012-12-23, 11:18 PM

23 was only V's calculations. They could have easily done better than expected.

ReaderAt2046

2012-12-24, 09:26 AM

However, gouda is a specific fondness of goblins, is it not? Dunno. Which reminds me, those slaves the Resistance liberated in their introduction were carrying food, was that from a raid, or salvage, or what?

Gobbotopia's territory includes some excellent farmland. Enough time had passed that the farms could be beginning to start up again.

Xelbiuj

2012-12-26, 12:59 PM

The goblin wants the Chaotic evil creature off of it.
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0041.html

Tsuk wants the true neutral creature off of her.
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0520.html

Sabine wants to Lawful good creature off her.
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0805.html

Meaningless yes, but that's the kind of stuff you start to notice rereading when it's been months since a new comic. lol

Lord Torath

2012-12-26, 11:02 PM

I just noticed that all the "Holy" words Elan is suggesting are really "Holey" words, things that are holes, or have them. Sponge and Doughnut are probably next.
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0806.html

theinsulabot

2012-12-27, 04:26 PM

I never noticed that while julia didn't think about the fact that Durkon could look up her skirt if she climbed down a ladder after him, it must have occurred to her at some point since she seems to be trying to hold her dress closed while doing so.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0353.html

(panel 7)

ReaderAt2046

2012-12-28, 05:41 PM

theinsulabot

2012-12-28, 10:25 PM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0382.html

Haley's latent bisexuality, mistrust and intellect all have it.

ti'esar

2012-12-29, 02:12 AM

You can see in here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0319.html) that Haley's Self-Loathing has the same little out-of-place strand of hair as Material Haley, but none of the other Shards of Haley do. Hmmmmm....

I suspect it's more that Haley's Self-Loathing looks like Haley as a teenager, a design that originated well before any of the other personalities appeared (and did so back when the Giant was more prone to straight recolors, to boot).

On the subject of the thread, though, I hadn't previously noticed that Haley's Self-Reliance doesn't have that loose hair.

ReaderAt2046

2012-12-29, 08:42 AM

Hmmmm.... Interesting.....

Koo Rehtorb

2012-12-29, 09:10 AM

The Linker

2012-12-29, 01:50 PM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0050.html

I just got the joke here.

It's needlessly complicated because a fighter/rogue/sorcerer gives essentially the same abilities as a pure bard. It's also a neat tie in to how Nale enjoys his pointlessly overly complex plans.

H-uh. That explains some things. I'm not as well-versed in D&D as some here, so I never made the connection.

Also, I'd be remiss if I didn't post a little revelation made in the Goblins thread:

... I just figured out why the MitD fails all of his Spot checks. The way the 3.x lighting rules are written, it's the light conditions on the observer that matter, not the light conditions on the observed (yes, this is bass-ackwards; yes, it's the rules). The Monster is in the Darkness, and therefore, by the rules, blind, even if everything around him is lit.

Obviously the monster can see, but still. Adds a new layer to the jokes, which I found neat.

martianmister

2012-12-29, 07:30 PM

You can see in here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0319.html) that Haley's Self-Loathing has the same little out-of-place strand of hair as Material Haley, but none of the other Shards of Haley do. Hmmmmm....

On the subject of the thread, though, I hadn't previously noticed that Haley's Self-Reliance doesn't have that loose hair.

If you look closely, you can see Haley's Self-Reliance's strand of hair. It's hard see because it's yellow.:smalltongue:

Gnomish Wanderer

2012-12-29, 10:12 PM

I don't know if this really counts, but until a few minutes ago I never really considered the link between the dragons and the Draketooth clan being that they were presumably sorcerers. The common explanation for sorcerers is having dragonblood once be a part of their family line. Might have just been my own mis-sight but I found it interesting.

Careless

2012-12-30, 09:38 AM

I just realized that in #811, Nale doesn't seem overly perturbed by the presence of Malack, and seems to casually ask Malack how the family is. Earlier there was the misunderstanding regarding who killed Tarquin's previous wife. Maybe the same thing is going on with Malack's kids. Also, Malack is a high level Cleric of a God of Death, he may have survived in a weakened state the exact same thing that killed his kids.

theinsulabot

2012-12-30, 10:04 AM

not a bad idea, but judging from sabine's reaction, she is aware that malack +nale = harm. literally, as it would turn out.

I read that as Nale just not being able to avoid using a villainous taunt even when its really, really not a good idea.

Majiy

2012-12-31, 04:33 PM

I did realize before that the paladin-mounts come out of Poké-Balls.

But I just realized that Windstriker actually says "Pika". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0373.html)

Ron Miel

2013-01-01, 05:55 AM

I did realize before that the paladin-mounts come out of Poké-Balls.

But I just realized that Windstriker actually says "Pika". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0373.html)

Here's something else for you: Argent says "chu." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0432.html)

Lord Torath

2013-01-01, 12:52 PM

I did realize before that the paladin-mounts come out of Poké-Balls.

But I just realized that Windstriker actually says "Pika". (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0373.html)
Nuts! Find someone saying "Pika" was going to be my next question in the OoTS Quiz. Oh well. I'll just move on to "Open Question"

MoonCat

2013-01-01, 04:27 PM

Nuts! Find someone saying "Pika" was going to be my next question in the OoTS Quiz. Oh well. I'll just move on to "Open Question"

Don't worry, it's a pretty commonly asked, so it would ahve been answered quickly anyway. :smalltongue:

Agnostik

2013-01-02, 05:12 AM

Start of Darkness spoiler (totally unimportant, so you might as well look if you're curious):
When Eugene begins retelling the story of his youth, he mentions that he was always top of his class, except that one year when Suzy Finkelstein... {presumably beat him}. Apparently, that rivalry didn't quite end there...

...because in the very first panel of #669 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0669.html), Roy reveals that he lost his (well, first) virginity to SHEILA Finkelstein, whose mom was nominated for Wizzie Award along with Eugene.

Like Belkar once said, :belkar: "So... many... questions..." :smallbiggrin: Did Roy hook up with her to spite his dad? Or maybe Sheila had a similar sort of relationship with her mom, and they bonded over that?

I just love it when an off-hand remark reveals a bigger picture if you look hard enough. This revelation made my day.:smallwink:

Morgan Wick

2013-01-03, 05:17 AM

Comic 261: The third panel from the end is of Belkar knocking the guard against the top of the panel.

The Linker

2013-01-03, 04:46 PM

The 'hit lines' are emanating from the wall, no? Traditionally, you trace the origin of the lines to find the approximate point of contact, which tells me the guard's back or head is hitting the wall.

Incom

2013-01-04, 12:42 AM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0278.html

In 277 (the last Crayons of Time strip), Haley rushes back on-panel wearing a towel and soaking wet as part of a gag.

In 278, she's blow drying her hair while everyone else gets back to the plot.

ReaderAt2046

2013-01-04, 10:49 PM

Comic 261: The third panel from the end is of Belkar knocking the guard against the top of the panel.

In this one, Tusiko is blasting Haley through the panel border, and breaking it in the process.

Tragak

2013-01-08, 09:20 AM

When Belkar says he "knows a guy who knows a guy," (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0171.html) he's talking about the bugs who tried to kill Mr. Scruffy, (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0685.html) right?

Tragak

2013-01-13, 08:22 PM

Also, after reading http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205414 (Chaotic Good Heaven), I realized that 844 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0844.html) was saying the same thing about LGs as 492 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0492.html)

Lord Torath

2013-01-14, 04:42 PM

I just noticed that Hailey is standing on the chair (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0615.html) as she decides which bow (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0614.html) to take.

Torrasque

2013-01-15, 08:14 AM

In http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0696.html Elan is using the "Order of the Stick" stick to write in the sand (as seen in the OoPCs and in the board game).

Codyage

2013-01-15, 04:48 PM

I just noticed Haley has a tattoo. 2nd strip 9th panel. Or at least I think it is a tattoo.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0468.html

Which might be the one she refers to in this one.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0309.html

Ron Miel

2013-01-15, 05:36 PM

I hear it's a lot clearer in print, where it can be seen as a heart with an arrow.

NZNinja

2013-01-15, 05:57 PM

In comic 338 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0338.html), V agrees that "One's family must be defended when the need arises," which V does - with style - almost exactly 300 comics later.

Techwarrior

2013-01-28, 05:50 AM

297 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0297.html)

:roy: "Fantastic. Because, you know, these things can never be just randomly positive."

And then gets disproven, when the boons to his sword are, in fact, randomly positive.

Finagle

2013-01-28, 07:31 AM

In #762, 2nd pannel (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0726.html), draw a line from tarqins eyes. Looks like Giant was seting up the joke beforehand.
What, this and we don't note that the author managed to actually work in the word "defenestrated" into his comic? :smallamused:

Finagle

2013-01-28, 08:02 AM

#731, the Empire of Blood soldiers have spiky "pickelhaube" helmets while the EoB police have different helmets. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0731.html)

In the next comic, #732 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0732.html), the men guarding the gate are soldiers, while the one who talks to Durkon is a policeman.

In this same comic, Durkon says he will be in the Empire of Blood for 30 strips - and that's running long. He didn't leave until #818 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0818.html), no less than eighty-six strips later. Man, that EoB sideline went on forever, I was SO glad to get back on the main plot again. I kept waiting...30 strips...40...50...it just wouldn't quit!

Roland Itiative

2013-01-28, 04:22 PM

You can see in here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0319.html) that Haley's Self-Loathing has the same little out-of-place strand of hair as Material Haley, but none of the other Shards of Haley do. Hmmmmm....

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0382.html

Haley's latent bisexuality, mistrust and intellect all have it.
To be more specific, every aspect of Haley with the single ponytail haircut have it, and all of the ones with different hair styles lack it.

On the subject of the thread, though, I hadn't previously noticed that Haley's Self-Reliance doesn't have that loose hair.
She does, it's just hard to see because its colour is too close to her skin's.

Kurald Galain

2013-01-29, 05:43 AM

Start of Darkness spoiler (totally unimportant, so you might as well look if you're curious):

Also SOD spoiler,

Eugene tells Right-Eye to start a family, because once you're dead and looking back on your life you're not going to wish you spent more time on revenge. Then at the end of the book, Eugene dies, and guess what...

Peelee

2013-01-31, 10:49 AM

Also SOD spoiler,

Eugene tells Right-Eye to start a family, because once you're dead and looking back on your life you're not going to wish you spent more time on revenge. Then at the end of the book, Eugene dies, and guess what...

Holy crap, that's brilliant! I'm replaying how that went in my head and loving it. Thanks for pointing that one out!

ReaderAt2046

2013-01-31, 07:17 PM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0554.html

I just worked out that when Elan says "We won't leave one of our own behind again," he's thinking of Banjo, not Lien. (until Durkon corrects him).

Roland Itiative

2013-01-31, 08:12 PM

I just noticed that each of the books have the outlines of one of the characters on the black part of the cover. Guess the next book will have Belkar, as he's the only member of the OotS yet to get this honour.

Tragak

2013-02-02, 07:10 PM

... the Fiends are named after their alignments (LEe, NEro, CEdrik)

AcerbicOrb

2013-02-02, 08:38 PM

I never noticed V's change in hairstyle until a few days ago.

Gift Jeraff

2013-02-03, 10:56 PM

Compare Nale's rant about his father (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0794.html) to Tarquin's rant about bards (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0821.html).

Finagle

2013-02-06, 09:04 AM

... the Fiends are named after their alignments (LEe, NEro, CEdrik)
Wow, good one. Never saw that one coming. I suppose the author started with LE, NE, CE and then made names from there. Good catch.

Sith_Happens

2013-02-07, 08:32 PM

I just noticed in strip 867 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0867.html) that Roy actually has a pair of straps to hold his sword to his back, rather than it just sort of floating there as seems to happen so often (mainly in video games, admittedly). Have those been there the whole time?

The Linker

2013-02-07, 11:26 PM

Gift Jeraff

2013-02-08, 12:46 AM

#689 is when I first noticed them.

ReaderAt2046

2013-02-08, 05:47 PM

Redcloak has a portrait of the Dark One over his desk (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0828.html)

Procyonpi

2013-02-11, 03:52 AM

in #88, Durkon says he took his armor off so he could be quiet in the invisibility sphere, but in #89, it's back on.

Ron Miel

2013-02-11, 11:30 AM

Probably first appeared during some art upgrade. Don't think they've been there since the *very* beginning.

no sign of them in #11
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0011.html

oppyu

2013-02-11, 09:14 PM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0692.html

After Elan duels the cactus, Haley has a new flower... but Elan also has spikes in him.

TheWombatOfDoom

2013-02-11, 11:21 PM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0692.html

After Elan duels the cactus, Haley has a new flower... but Elan also has spikes in him.

Indeed! That was found by an earlier poster but I still find it hilarious! Good work.

ReaderAt2046

2013-02-12, 08:22 PM

Indeed! That was found by an earlier poster but I still find it hilarious! Good work.

I was the eariler poster (or maybe one of several). Though in this particular case, if you didn't actually know someone else had found it, it would still be your first discovery, and count.

What'sThatThing

2013-02-12, 09:35 PM

I just noticed that the title of the second-newest strip (Unleash the Fury) is a reference to Belkar's lines in the second-to-last panel here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0140.html) and in the last panel here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0432.html)

Ron Miel

2013-02-14, 09:52 PM

Felix the Mensch (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0755.html)... I only just got that joke.

Because a Mensch is the opposite of a grouch, and Felix is the opposite of Oscar.

And Little Roc is the opposite of Big Bird

Tragak

2013-02-15, 08:48 PM

I just realized that not-Thog was probably using the same Ring of Regeneration (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0852.html) that Elan turned down. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0762.html)

Mike Havran

2013-02-16, 10:57 AM

I only just noticed that Durkon and Hilgya are holding their hands (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0056.html) when Nale got the talisman.

ReaderAt2046

2013-02-16, 03:11 PM

I just realized that not-Thog was probably using the same Ring of Regeneration (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0852.html) that Elan turned down. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0762.html)

Actually, probably not. Didn't T say that he had two? (his one and the one he was offering Elan.)

thatSeniorGuy

2013-02-16, 10:42 PM

I was browsing through NCftPB last night when I discovered that in The Interlude of DOOOOOOOM! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0174.html) Miko is holding something odd in her hand when she interviews the barbarian, and sure enough, it's the 'pamphlet' that the barbarian handed to Belkar here! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0132.html)

Carl

2013-02-17, 09:12 PM

In this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0188.html) strip where told that the dragon was an immature one. Look back at this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0186.html) one and what song is it singing when dazzed...

Very good joke :p.

Procyonpi

2013-02-17, 10:59 PM

Carl

2013-02-18, 10:01 AM

I thought that mostly had to do with his head being spinning.

Yes it does. But why that specific song when his heads spinning? Hence my comment. It suddenly hit me. It's because he's a kid :).

Tragak

2013-02-18, 10:43 AM

Yes it does. But why that specific song when his heads spinning? Hence my comment. It suddenly hit me. It's because he's a kid :).

Not teenager?

Ron Miel

2013-02-18, 03:47 PM

Yes it does. But why that specific song when his heads spinning? Hence my comment. It suddenly hit me. It's because he's a kid :).

Young adult. He has a stash of nudie magazines, is dating a girl, and is old enough to be left alone without a babysitter. Probably about equivalent to a human 16 year old.

Carl

2013-02-18, 04:51 PM

You knew what i meant. Stop being fecisiously pedantic :p.

WoLong

2013-02-18, 05:00 PM

The grim reaper scythed the girl through her Vagina (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0718.html)

MoonCat

2013-02-18, 05:03 PM

The grim reaper scythed the girl through her Vagina (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0718.html)

That was the stab wound from whatever killed her in the first place.

WoLong

2013-02-18, 05:12 PM

That was the stab wound from whatever killed her in the first place.

Well, I'm slow today.

Ron Miel

2013-02-18, 05:31 PM

You knew what i meant. Stop being fecisiously pedantic :p.

It's not a trivial distinction. The song is for very young children, and the dragon is obviously much older than that.

Tragak

2013-02-19, 10:40 AM

When Tarquin forces Malack to go along with Nale, and Malack reluctantly agrees, Nale is sticking his tongue out at Malack for his father taking his side over the "pet iguana's"

ReaderAt2046

2013-02-19, 02:54 PM

I just realized that in this comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0811.html), Nale's probably asking if Malack has made any more fledgelings.

TheWombatOfDoom

2013-02-19, 03:01 PM

I just realized that in this comic (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0811.html), Nale's probably asking if Malack has made any more fledgelings.

Disagree. I think it was more as a taunt, because he killed his last ones. Nale's just putting salt in the wound because he know's its a soft spot for Malack.

ti'esar

2013-02-19, 03:11 PM

Malack is drinking bloodwart tea. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0735.html) Part of the local theme, or foreshadowing disguised as such? (Note that Durkon thought it was disgusting...)

Also, and unrelated to recent revelations, Roy appears to be missing the tail for his speech balloon in panel 8. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0787.html)

Procyonpi

2013-02-19, 04:03 PM

I never noticed Malack was a vampire.

Douglas

2013-02-19, 04:29 PM

The dimmers introduced in 751 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0751.html) (last row) got used again in 821 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0821.html).

Kurald Galain

2013-02-19, 05:29 PM

I never noticed Malack was a vampire.

That's because he was using obfuscate.

Codyage

2013-02-20, 03:06 PM

Durkon is in exactly twenty strips after he grabs his papers to get into the empire of blood, and when he leaves it by carpet. ( I double checked, but if I am wrong someone correct me.)

I guess he didn't need the extra ten after all.

Sr.medusa

2013-02-20, 09:45 PM

Lvl45DM!

2013-02-21, 08:42 AM

Tragak

2013-02-21, 08:43 AM

He left in 818 and got the papers in 732. You're a tad off :smalltongue:

Yes, but Codyage was saying that since Durkon wasn't IN all of them, some of them could've happened at the same time and he was buying 20 strips of his own time.

Lvl45DM!

2013-02-21, 08:51 AM

Oh wow. My apologies. Im going to check that now and if its true thats awesome and I thank Codyage for bringing it up and Tragak for clarifying

EDIT: THAT IS FRAKKING AWESOME!

Gift Jeraff

2013-02-21, 10:16 AM

Maybe those extra 10 will be bonus strips in the printed compilation. :smalltongue:

Lossoth

2013-02-22, 10:21 AM

I just notice that in this strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0811.html)(panel 2), when Malak cast harm on Nale, we can se two magic auras, one for the harm spell, and the other for the vampiric level drain like panel five here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0870.html).

Malak seems to be clutching his Amulet as he casts Harm. Maybe to give it extra damage. Or maybe the amulet helps his disguise, allows him to use Vampire-related abilities without changing his eyes or speech balloons.

Though he's not cluthing the amulet in 870, so maybe the first one's right.

Peelee

2013-02-22, 03:07 PM

On reread of the last 20 comics, I noticed that Durkon calls himself one of Thor's children (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0861.html). Given the sudden reveal about Malack being very tied into the death of his children, I am given to believe this was very deliberate (and clever) word choice.

Tragak

2013-02-23, 02:37 PM

Empire of Blood. Blood means family. We meet Haley's and Elan's biological family, Belkar now technically has biological family, Roy's speech about good trumping family comes up after they leave. Rich is a genius.

Gift Jeraff

2013-02-23, 02:45 PM

kxm

2013-02-23, 07:14 PM

I didn't notice that when V teleports to Kazumi and Daigo's room (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0643.html), one of their windows is boarded up due to Elan breaking it during his heroic entrance. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0589.html)

Valwyn

2013-02-25, 05:56 PM

Sabine's eyes turn red (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0053.html) before Celia breaks the fight.

O-chul takes Redcloak's right eye (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0655.html). A few strips later, the phylactery bounces off Redcloak's statue's right eye (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0660.html).
(Are those possesives right?)

Chessgeek

2013-02-25, 06:37 PM

I never noticed the general plummeting in the second panel (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html) when RC dismissed his elephant. My eye was naturally drawn to the spectacular display of magic in the annals of warfare :smallbiggrin:

Lord Torath

2013-02-25, 09:31 PM

I never noticed that while Durkon is "enjoying" a cup of BloodWART (instead of bloodwort) tea with Malack, Mr. Scruffy is being fed (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0737.html) on the floor behind him.

Edit: And when Belkar is having trouble retracing (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0868.html) his steps, he's probably getting the corpse smell from Malack when he raised the mummies (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0856.html).

Gift Jeraff

2013-02-27, 01:40 AM

The reptilian casters (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0571.html) who resurrected the Oracle have inverted colours (arcane = red robe, black belt, black dweomer; divine = black robe, red belt, red dweomer).

Dr. Gamera

2013-02-27, 03:18 PM

Peelee

2013-02-27, 04:14 PM

Malack refers to Nale as Tarquin's spawn in OOTS #818 (Also, the Desert is Dry) (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0818.html).

There are starting to be an embarrassing number of clues to Malack's vampire nature that seem obvious in retrospect.

That could also be Malack just talking in an archaic fashion, as he is wont to do. Though that it also serves as a clue-in-hindsight is pretty cool.

ti'esar

2013-02-27, 05:16 PM

That could also be Malack just talking in an archaic fashion, as he is wont to do. Though that it also serves as a clue-in-hindsight is pretty cool.

I always just took that as an insult. Still do, really.

Kurald Galain

2013-02-27, 07:23 PM

The goblin in disguise (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0824.html) doesn't actually hit anyone for the entire combat.

ti'esar

2013-02-27, 07:32 PM

The goblin in disguise (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0824.html) doesn't actually hit anyone for the entire combat.

Actually, look at panel 5 again: he shoots the cleric in the head.

Ron Miel

2013-02-27, 07:34 PM

Look again. He fires a crossbow bolt which is heading towards Bluecloak. Next panel it's sticking out of Bluecloak's head.

edit - Ninja'd.

Tragak

2013-02-27, 08:32 PM

Look again. He fires a crossbow bolt which is heading towards Bluecloak. Next panel it's sticking out of Bluecloak's head.

edit - Ninja'd.

Actually, his bolt passed the cleric, the elf-archer's arrow is what actually connected

TDG

2013-02-27, 08:37 PM

Naw - panel 4 you can see the grey arrow being launched from his crossbow. That's the same one as the one that ends up in bluecloak.

The elven archer's arrows have red ends like the one in panel 3

Armaius

2013-02-27, 09:26 PM

Just noticed this - strip #737, panel 6. Durkon spikes the tea with some liquor from a flask he was carrying to make the tea taste better.

ReaderAt2046

2013-03-02, 04:42 PM

Ok, so Eugene gives Roy some ragging about not being a wizard here:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0078.html

But I just realized that Eugene had forgotten something. Roy couldn't turn Xykon into a frog even if he had become a wizard, because Liches are immune to polymorph effects!

oppyu

2013-03-02, 07:08 PM

869 isn't the first time a falling head was surprisingly effective as an improvised weapon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0435.html)

Cizak

2013-03-02, 08:35 PM

Elan kept (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0696.html) the stick (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootscast.html) the Order was named after.
And yup, I checked. It is the stick from On the Origin of PCs.
What's hilarious here is that a) of course Elan would keep that thing and b) that's one strong leaf to still be on there.

Douglas

2013-03-02, 09:21 PM

that's one strong leaf to still be on there.
And still be green.

Tragak

2013-03-02, 09:24 PM

And still be green.

Could that part just be an illusion? :smallfrown:

MeanMrsMustard

2013-03-03, 10:49 AM

Haley is imported from Greysky City (www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0517.html).
(Thanks!)

hamishspence

2013-03-03, 10:55 AM

I think your link is off. I've repeated it with fixed link:

Haley is imported from Greysky City (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0517.html)

Procyonpi

2013-03-03, 11:31 AM

In 422 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0422.html), O-Chul is placed opposite the MitD.

Guess who he spends most of the next boo making friends with...

Shara

2013-03-03, 03:37 PM

In 422 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0422.html), O-Chul is placed opposite the MitD.

Guess who he spends most of the next boo making friends with...

And not just O-Chul and MitD, I just realized that the two pages are mirror images of each other regarding characters. Roy is mirrored by "Xykon", and he ends up fighting Xykon. Hinjo is mirrored by Redcloak, the current and next rulers of Azure City. And Vaarsuvius is mirrored by the demon roaches... I got nothing for that...

SaintRidley

2013-03-03, 03:43 PM

And not just O-Chul and MitD, I just realized that the two pages are mirror images of each other regarding characters. Roy is mirrored by "Xykon", and he ends up fighting Xykon. Hinjo is mirrored by Redcloak, the current and next rulers of Azure City. And Vaarsuvius is mirrored by the demon roaches... I got nothing for that...

V is mirrored by the demon roaches - fiends and a fiend-dealer.

The Azurite wizard in row 2 is mirrored by a zombie.

The attitudes in row 2 mirror each other.

Even the mountains and the ramparts mirror each other throughout.

theangelJean

2013-03-03, 07:34 PM

And not just O-Chul and MitD, I just realized that the two pages are mirror images of each other regarding characters. Roy is mirrored by "Xykon", and he ends up fighting Xykon. Hinjo is mirrored by Redcloak, the current and next rulers of Azure City. And Vaarsuvius is mirrored by the demon roaches... I got nothing for that...

Speaking of "Xykon", I never noticed that the orange-pendanted one Redcloak is talking to in that comic is the Eye of Fear and Flame (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0431.html). It explains both why this particular "Xykon" is so nervous, and how Redcloak was able to deliver such a scathing putdown without getting roasted. And, given that it was dressed like Xykon, that must have been pretty therapeutic for Redcloak :)

Techmagss

2013-03-03, 07:44 PM

Comic 24 panel 4
Gobbo says 'Exenses' instead of 'expenses'

Lvl45DM!

2013-03-03, 11:16 PM

I never noticed how much I'd miss Durkon when he's gone

Rakoa

2013-03-03, 11:18 PM

I never noticed how much I'd miss Durkon when he's gone

I second this. I was rooting for Malack the whole time...and then he won. And I kind of regret it.

MoonCat

2013-03-03, 11:53 PM

I never noticed how much I'd miss Durkon when he's gone

You bastard, you just made me cry. I felt exactly the same way!

Lvl45DM!

2013-03-04, 12:06 AM

You bastard, you just made me cry. I felt exactly the same way!

Not even sorry.

KillingAScarab

2013-03-04, 02:52 AM

Just noticed this - strip #737, panel 6. Durkon spikes the tea with some liquor from a flask he was carrying to make the tea taste better.I only just noticed this, too.

Also, Malack includes himself amongst "lizardfolk" in that comic. Furthermore, it is much easier to see in that comic the tail is within Malack's robes. Should have realized that his tail would be on the outside if he was moving as a biped.

Gift Jeraff

2013-03-04, 08:34 AM

I just noticed Malack's height was inconsistent: compare him standing next to Elan in #720 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0720.html) and #812 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0812.html). Makes sense since he coils his tail.

RNGgod

2013-03-04, 09:45 AM

Procyonpi

2013-03-04, 09:47 AM

I've always been on the lookout for strip titles being reused. I figure that it's only a matter of time before Rich reuses a joke; there are only some many witty titles, after all.

Which is why I was so surprised that I didn't notice that this most recent comic, 877, has the same title as 333 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0333.html).

Both are called "The Bright Side." I think I'm going to cry now.

Oh wow. That's touching.

TheWombatOfDoom

2013-03-04, 11:23 AM

Rui

2013-03-04, 02:34 PM

In the last strip note the roache's comments aboutt the acid breathing shark. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0541.html) This is a joke about a book called "Dungeonscape", that Rich Burlew wrote. In this book you can find an acid breathing shark :smallwink:

This is kind of obvious, but I guess that some peoples didn't notice. In This strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0542.html) you can see O-Chul strikes in the shark mouth and breaking some of his teethes. In the later panels you can see that the shark attacks with a red line in his mouth, and those are his gums.

This is obvious too, yet in this strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0562.html) We can see Kubota reading some books. These are 4 edition books, including the player's handbook and the monster manual in the box (he is reading the dungeon's master guide).

And last, in this strip (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0719.html) we can see Elan asking Malack questions because it's everyone's job to introduce new characters (like Malack in this time), and that if he won't ask him he'll just spew it in the middle of an action scene (he says all in panel 1-3). Look what we've got here in panel 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0874.html) :smalltongue:

Procyonpi

2013-03-04, 05:04 PM

In 485 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0485.html), Eugene makes a DBZ reference, joking that Roy would train with a martial arts master in the afterlife while is friends try to revive him. That's not quite how it goes down, but... (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html)

Mc. Lovin'

2013-03-04, 05:54 PM

Not to mention in the 9th panel, he says he feared he'd be EATEN by some monster, and well...Malack has been name a monster by Durkon, and he was eaten by him...foreshadowing?

Oh ... my ... god ...

Usually I would say that was pure luck, but I seriously wouldn't put it past the Giant to forshadow THAT early. Jeeze. That is awesome

Procyonpi

2013-03-04, 06:13 PM

Oh ... my ... god ...

Serious props if that was a Troll 2 reference.

What'sThatThing

2013-03-04, 06:37 PM

I just noticed that in panel 9 of this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0567.html) strip, the Oracle makes a reference to Celia's occupation.

Carl

2013-03-04, 06:42 PM

I just noticed that in panel 9 of this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0567.html) strip, the Oracle makes a reference to Celia's occupation.

Good catch, also, can i just say as much as yes belkar was in the wrong, i really can't blame him for stabbing the oracle. Jerk. Hopefully he get's some kharmic payback by the end of the comic.

Procyonpi

2013-03-04, 06:56 PM

I just noticed that in panel 9 of this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0567.html) strip, the Oracle makes a reference to Celia's occupation.

I thought that was fairly obvious.

Pigkappa

2013-03-04, 07:10 PM

Maybe someone has already noticed, but checking the whole thread would take a long time...

In 861 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0861.html), Malack comments the metal door is airtight. I didn't think that line was revealing before knowing he's a vampire who can turn into fog at will.

The Linker

2013-03-04, 08:00 PM

I thought that was fairly obvious.

Recall that this is not the 'cool tidbits no one noticed' thread. This thread is home to plenty of 'How did I miss that' moments. :smallcool:

The Pilgrim

2013-03-04, 08:22 PM

Tragak

2013-03-04, 09:22 PM

Here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0858.html) in panel 5, Tarquin comments that he can "personally attest" about Sabine's "most useful skillset". Tarquin being Tarquin, this seems to imply that he actually has had sexual intercourse with his son's girlfriend. :smalleek:

Well, Nale is technically a younger, less subtly homicidal version of Tarquin, so even if the IFCC assigned her to the more large-scale big-picture Tarquin first... Never Mind. Brain Bleach. So Much Brain Bleach.

The Pilgrim

2013-03-04, 09:52 PM

Well, Nale is technically a younger, less subtly homicidal version of Tarquin, so even if the IFCC assigned her to the more large-scale big-picture Tarquin first... Never Mind. Brain Bleach. So Much Brain Bleach.

Very much. Not that I find that event surprising (Sabine being an evil incarnation of illcit sex (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0394.html) and all that), but still it's a bit brain bleacher.

Now thinking about that, Sabine having had a relationship with Tarquin would explain the high amount of despise she has shown for the old man.

Bluepaw

2013-03-05, 12:02 AM

All the way back in #120 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0120.html), I just noticed that Sabine shanks the prison guard with her bare hand! Eeesh.

OPM

2013-03-05, 03:00 AM

Anyone else just notice that the center of Durkon's holy symbol changed from white to black in #878 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0878.html)?

I suspect Durkula will be casting evil cleric spells soon.

Also, I understand why V is gagged to prevent spellcasting in #251 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0251.html) but that just makes me wonder why Haley needed to be blindfolded. Does it hamper her attempts to free herself from those chains?

zero

2013-03-05, 07:50 AM

I had never noticed the toy that Eric Greenhilt is playing with in strip 600 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html). Nice black dragon foreshadowing!

Gnomish Wanderer

2013-03-05, 08:32 AM

I don't know if this is even a thing, but when Redcloak admits he killed Tsukiko, Xykon replied something about killing 'uppity' minions. Could this have been a subtle jab about (SoD) RIght-Eye?

martianmister

2013-03-05, 11:30 AM

I had never noticed the toy that Eric Greenhilt is playing with in strip 600 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html). Nice black dragon foreshadowing!

But, it doesn't look like a black dragon at all. :smallconfused:

Codyage

2013-03-05, 11:42 AM

But, it doesn't look like a black dragon at all. :smallconfused:

The mama Dragon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0626.html) Panel 7.

The toy Dragon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html) Panel 9.

How exactly are they different by appearance, except for size, and the sewing line?

Peelee

2013-03-05, 12:01 PM

I just now noticed Belkar has a sword-shaped bruise all up on his face in the last panel (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0748.html).

The mama Dragon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0626.html) Panel 7.

The toy Dragon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html) Panel 9.

How exactly are they different by appearance, except for size, and the sewing line?

Well, the toy Dragon is clearly a less detailed version of the real black dragon. Exactly how toys in the real world are. It's actually pretty impressive, the level of detail that went into that (even though, ya know, less detail went into the toy dragon. Still).

Also, martianmister, it's a dragon, and it's black. I'm also curious in how you think it doesn't look like a black dragon.

TopCheese

2013-03-05, 12:09 PM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0556.html

Durkon tries to cast Holy Word in the second to last panel only to be stopped by the AoO.

Seems like Durkon has been a decent level for a while...

Procyonpi

2013-03-05, 12:41 PM

So I just re-read SoD for the first time since I tarted watching stargate.

Needless to say, I got a great laugh out of page 87 where previously I was just confused.

martianmister

2013-03-05, 02:05 PM

Also, martianmister, it's a dragon, and it's black. I'm also curious in how you think it doesn't look like a black dragon.

How exactly are they different by appearance, except for size, and the sewing line?

Well, for starters, Eric's dragon-plushie is green, not black...:smalltongue:

Shale

2013-03-05, 02:08 PM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0556.html

Durkon tries to cast Holy Word in the second to last panel only to be stopped by the AoO.

Seems like Durkon has been a decent level for a while...

Not to mention, when he finally did cast the spell, all he had to say was "HOLY". In that strip, he gets cut off on "word." I call hax!

hamishspence

2013-03-05, 02:11 PM

Well, for starters, Eric's dragon-plushie is green, not black...:smalltongue:

It looks dark grey to me. And the purple wings go well with those of Mama Dragon we see later.

Peelee

2013-03-05, 02:29 PM

Well, for starters, Eric's dragon-plushie is green, not black...:smalltongue:

And here's where I pull the colorblind card! I have issues with anything close together on the spectrum (dark reds and browns, for instance, or light greens and yellows). Looks like a darkish grey to me, which equates to black for a plushie. If it is green, my mistake.

Oh, and purple. Can't see purple. Ever. Nice, blue wings on that dude.

hamishspence

2013-03-05, 02:33 PM

It doesn't look green to me. Horace's armour- that's a good example of dark green. The dragon is grey enough that it's reasonable to say it's representing a black dragon, not a green. Especially with the purple wings and the purple-ish eyes.

Codyage

2013-03-05, 03:05 PM

Zweisteine

2013-03-05, 03:40 PM

If you look carefully at the scrabble board in strip 31, (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0031.html) you'll see that the word on the triple word score is not long enough to be "zyqxuwy." Also, you can't spell a seven letter word in scrabble, using only one tile already on the board, and have two tiles left, as the Illithid does (but if he did make that six-letter word that is on the triple word score, he could).

@V But... but... but... You still can't spell zyqxuwy with only six tiles!

Peelee

2013-03-05, 03:57 PM

Kurald Galain

2013-03-05, 04:25 PM

I had never noticed the toy that Eric Greenhilt is playing with in strip 600 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html). Nice black dragon foreshadowing!Isn't that the same dragon that the MITD and Right-Eye's son are playing with in SOD?

Not to mention, when he finally did cast the spell, all he had to say was "HOLY". In that strip, he gets cut off on "word." I call hax!He clearly pronounces it in a different font; that's what matters.

@V But... but... but... You still can't spell zyqxuwy with only six tiles!Mind Flayers are evil, so they cheat. Plus Elan is too dumb to remember the rules of Scrabble anyway :)

Gryffon

2013-03-05, 04:31 PM

Not to mention, when he finally did cast the spell, all he had to say was "HOLY". In that strip, he gets cut off on "word." I call hax!

Well, the spell is Holy Word, not Holy Sentence. He wasn't cut off, the verbal component for Holy Word, is just the word Holy.

Ron Miel

2013-03-05, 06:02 PM

Isn't that the same dragon that the MITD and Right-Eye's son are playing with in SOD?

No, MITD's dragon IS green.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0475.html

Peelee

2013-03-05, 06:04 PM

No, MITD's dragon IS green.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0475.html

Man, whatever merchant is selling those is looks like he's making a decent living. Product placement galore!

TheWombatOfDoom

2013-03-05, 06:06 PM

Man, whatever merchant is selling those is looks like he's making a decent living. Product placement galore!

It's the same hobgoblin that distributes Gouda Cheese, and Hydra burgers. :smalltongue:

Tragak

2013-03-05, 06:37 PM

in 453 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0453.html), the assassin is making a joke about the Conservation of Ninjitsu (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu).

MaximKat

2013-03-05, 07:12 PM

Codyage

2013-03-05, 07:42 PM

I couldn't find a better place to ask this, so I'm going to do it here. In #309 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0309.html) Haley says "I'm not exactly --". I don't believe this was ever resolved in-comic.

What are the most popular theories about what she is not? I remember "not human" was one, but it seems unlikely, considering both of her parents look 100% humans. Anything else?

It has been brought up before on the forums. I think a popular one may have been "I'm not exactly what you would call...(A Rogue)"

Because she was no longer part of the Thieves Guild at the time.

Toy Killer

2013-03-05, 07:54 PM

in 453 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0453.html), the assassin is making a joke about the Conservation of Ninjitsu (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu).

I wonder if the 12 gods getting uppity with the Norse gods in that comic is why Durkon was left without divine aid when he was in need against Malak, seeing as how they are in the western continent now...

MaximKat

2013-03-05, 08:30 PM

It has been brought up before on the forums. I think a popular one may have been "I'm not exactly what you would call...(A Rogue)"

Because she was no longer part of the Thieves Guild at the time.

Wouldn't it be covered when she said "I'm not really in the Thieves' Guild anymore"? Besides, how does not being a member of Thieves Guild change one's class?

Dr. Gamera

2013-03-05, 08:37 PM

I couldn't find a better place to ask this, so I'm going to do it here. In #309 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0309.html) Haley says "I'm not exactly --". I don't believe this was ever resolved in-comic.

What are the most popular theories about what she is not? I remember "not human" was one, but it seems unlikely, considering both of her parents look 100% humans. Anything else?

Here's a link to the comic #309 discussion thread, which has some speculation:
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5745

Gnoman

2013-03-05, 08:58 PM

Being blind gives a penalty to skill checks such as those that would be needed. It also makes you more likely to trip, which is amusing when you're dragging someone you detest in chains.

Thrillhouse

2013-03-05, 10:14 PM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0047.html

Second panel.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0276.html

Last panel.

Nale's info was accurate, it seems.

Hirilnara

2013-03-06, 10:14 AM

Comic 701 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0701.html), Redcloak looking at his reflection and saying it will all be worth it... in the mirror, he looks very, very similar to someone else.
Right-Eye, obviously.

I can't believe I only just noticed that. Created a brand new account just to say so.

RoboChap

2013-03-06, 01:25 PM

I have reread through the comic from the start to the latest strip on multiple occasions, in both book form and online. Only during my most recent read through did I noticed that panel 5 of strip 528 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0528.html) is different depending on which medium you are reading (in the online version, Roy says he wishes he could look through the archive, in the print version Roy wishes he could read through the previous books)

Quite possibly been mentioned in the "things you never noticed" threads before, but amused me nonetheless!

Ron Miel

2013-03-07, 08:26 AM

Malack's tea is red (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0810.html).

Procyonpi

2013-03-07, 10:18 AM

Malack's tea is red (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0810.html).

Well, it is, as he said, BloodwArt tea.

Chantelune

2013-03-07, 12:04 PM

In 672 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0672.html), just before "conjuring" his familiar, V is looking at Mr Scruffy and Belkar together with what seems a "deep in thoughts" look on her face. Never noticed before and might be what prompted her change of heart regarding Blackwing, amongst other things. :smallredface:

martianmister

2013-03-07, 02:12 PM

Malack's tea is red (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0810.html).

Well, it is, as he said, BloodwArt tea.

Actually, it's looks like normal tea. :smallconfused:

allenw

2013-03-07, 09:13 PM

Here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0858.html) in panel 5, Tarquin comments that he can "personally attest" about Sabine's "most useful skillset". Tarquin being Tarquin, this seems to imply that he actually has had sexual intercourse with his son's girlfriend. :smalleek:

Which, as others have noted, would fulfil the "friendly contact with an evil outsider" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0419.html)clause necessary for Tarquin to have become a Blackguard (if he in fact is one).

Incom

2013-03-07, 10:48 PM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0813.html

Kilkil noticed Blackwing in panel 1.

Lvl45DM!

2013-03-08, 12:30 AM

KillingAScarab

2013-03-08, 01:47 PM

I only just noticed all the gods in the comic are color-coded for your convenience. The Northern gods have a yellow aura. The Southern gods have a blue aura. In the crayon drawings, the Western gods have a red aura and the now-extinct Greek pantheon of the Eastern gods had a green aura.

Tragak

2013-03-08, 02:00 PM

In 639 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0639.html), we see that Vaarsuvius's mate and children live on the same continent (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0698.html) as Tarquin and Ian.

Lord Torath

2013-03-08, 02:11 PM

That makes sense, since they live in the Elven Lands. Cool.

I just noticed that Celia's and Roy's moms both want (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0529.html) grandchildren (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html).

Kornaki

2013-03-08, 08:20 PM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0456.html

In panels 2-3 the hobgoblin general takes about 1d6 damage

TopCheese

2013-03-08, 10:56 PM

I just noticed that the title for 879 might refer to Rich running out of steam with the recent updates in a row and not Belkar's level of blood, though I guess it could be both.

Kornaki

2013-03-09, 02:11 AM

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0707.html

One of the human prisoners in panel 2 has an annoyed look on his face. Furthermore, he matches the art for the polymorphed goblin spy we learn about later (admittedly he's not the only one). Maybe he's the spy, annoyed that he could have just stayed as a hobgoblin (based on the conversation they were having in panel 2)?

More speculation than spot check perhaps

Tragak

2013-03-09, 11:18 AM

Kish

2013-03-09, 11:28 AM

Penny57

2013-03-09, 11:30 AM

OOTS #543, in the first panel of the second page, Jirix is leaning back, scared of getting accidentally hit with Xykon's paralyzing touch.

St Fan

2013-03-10, 07:52 AM

Strip #398 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0398.html) is titled "We All Just Want to be Held Sometimes". I just realized this wasn't just about the group hug, but that Thog also got "held"... with Hold Person.

St Fan

2013-03-10, 12:23 PM

And another thing...

Did anyone notice that Mr. Scruffy's legs where originally black lines (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0379.html)... and that's only later, after Belkar found him back, that he's depicted with white lines (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0520.html) for legs?

The Linker

2013-03-10, 07:15 PM

Huh. I hadn't noticed that.

Suddenly that doesn't look very good at all. :smalleek:

Procyonpi

2013-03-10, 07:32 PM

And another thing...

Does anyone noticed that Mr. Scruffy's legs where originally black lines (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0379.html)... and that's only later, after Belkar finds him back, that he's depicted with white lines (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0520.html) for legs?

Clearly, Godcat.

Tragak

2013-03-11, 08:27 AM

In the early strips, the wizard was turned into a lizard.

Armaius

2013-03-11, 08:45 AM

Page 578 - one of the golems attacking Haley and Celia has the head of a baseball.

Dr. Gamera

2013-03-11, 11:56 AM

Page 578 - one of the golems attacking Haley and Celia has the head of a baseball.

Oh, it's Mr. Met (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Met)! (Panel 20 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0578.html).)

I never noticed that either.

Drivort

2013-03-12, 10:39 AM

Panel 5 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0782.html)

I never realized that the Gladiators "Offpanelo" and "Notseenicus" were the third match in the games.

Zmeoaice

2013-03-12, 11:37 AM

Stop Talking (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0408.html)

SavageWombat

2013-03-12, 05:07 PM

Stop Talking (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0408.html)

This deserves another callback. Maybe when Roy is finally kicking Xykon's bony ass, and giving him a lecture on why, Xykon could use Stop Talking Meteor Swarm.

Vinyadan

2013-03-12, 06:29 PM

Wouldn't it be covered when she said "I'm not really in the Thieves' Guild anymore"? Besides, how does not being a member of Thieves Guild change one's class?

I am not really what you would call employed. :smallfrown:

ManuelSacha

2013-03-13, 12:13 PM

Panel 5 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0782.html)

I never realized that the Gladiators "Offpanelo" and "Notseenicus" were the third match in the games.

There's also Vermilius and Ceruleus: RED vs BLUE. :smallbiggrin:

JSSheridan

2013-03-13, 05:50 PM

I just noticed the parallels in this book.

Compare Redcloak's view on the undead to Malack's.

830 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0830.html) vs. 875 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0875.html)

Giant probably thinks more casters need to take the Still Spell feat.

830 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0830.html) & 876 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0876.html)

See how Belkar breaks the news of the death of a party member compared to Redcloak.

832 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0832.html) vs. 880 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0880.html)

Just to get started.

Codyage

2013-03-13, 06:16 PM

Belkar and Mister Scruffy compose the entire background! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html)

Tre of the Wood

2013-03-14, 07:59 PM

I don't know if this has been pointed out, but is that a half-hobgoblin, half-goblin in the crowd in 701? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0701.html)

CWater

2013-03-14, 09:21 PM

Belkar and Mister Scruffy compose the entire background! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html)

Cool, I never noticed that..

ti'esar

2013-03-14, 09:34 PM

The Order of the Stick's (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0877.html) and Order of the Scribble's (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0276.html) dwarves died almost exactly 600 strips apart.

And would've been off by exactly the same amount (877-276 = 600+1; 875-276 = 600-1) if Rich had not needed to memorialize Gygax (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0536.html) and Arneson (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0644.html) RIP.

:smallconfused:"Wait, didn't Kraagor die long before..."
:smallbiggrin: "NOT THE POINT!"

On a similar note, if it hadn't been for the memorial strips, guess what would have been strip 666? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0668.html)

"...a good person."

Eh, doesn't really work with the context.

I think that one's still a legitimate mystery, though whether it's plot-relevant remains to be determined. My gut says no, but after swearing up and down that there was no way Malack was a vampire, I'm a little less certain about such things now.

Ornithologist

2013-03-15, 05:13 PM

I just noticed that Haley's bowstring is broken in #251. And I found it via Quote by Giant.

:smallbiggrin:

MoleMage

2013-03-16, 12:28 AM

The title of comic 207 is
"Now if Only We Could Organize the Fiends Somehow".

I realize it refers to how dragons are color-coded and fiends are a hectic mess of classification as per the punchline, but in retrospect now that we've seen the IFCC...brings a different angle on the title, neh?

Kolero

2013-03-17, 02:41 AM

The reference to Shelby in 824 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0824.html). Shelby was a hobgoblin appearing in a print exclusive strip in No Cure for the Paladin Blues, and got the so called "final reward" for killing the silver dragon that Xykon later zombiefied as a mount.

Neoriceisgood

2013-03-17, 05:14 AM

Belkar and Mister Scruffy compose the entire background! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0606.html)

Oh that's a cool visual effect, never noticed it. :smallconfused:

MeanMrsMustard

2013-03-18, 08:14 AM

when thog start raging on page 2, panel 9 (www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0387.html), thog's pants already start turning purple.

Vinyadan

2013-03-18, 08:48 AM

When Argent is poisoned, his eyes turn from blue to green.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0453.html

And another one: here the Imp says "I'm missing the Olympics". The strip was posted 11 august 2008, so there actually were Olympic games running.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0583.html

Gift Jeraff

2013-03-18, 09:24 AM

I just noticed V and Blackwing in Panel 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0692.html).

fan4battle

2013-03-18, 11:53 AM

Julia is keeping her skirt tight when going down the ladder, after being scolded on morals by Durkon.
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0353.html

jamiah93

2013-03-19, 11:40 AM

Belkars halted Halfling Rage Attack (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0869.html)(panel 8) is similar to this guys (http://danielscreations.com/ola/comics/ep0175.html)(also panel 8) from Our Little Adventure, though Flesh to Stone is permanent.

Ron Miel

2013-03-19, 12:06 PM

I do not think that is a deliberate reference.

Tragak

2013-03-19, 12:11 PM

Basically, a magic-version of what Batman does all the time (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OffhandBackhand) :smallbiggrin:

Procyonpi

2013-03-20, 02:03 PM

Foreshadowing about Malack not being a regular lizardfolk.
"Have you considered a higher hemline?" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0764.html)

MoonCat

2013-03-20, 03:27 PM

Foreshadowing about Malack not being a regular lizardfolk.
"Have you considered a higher hemline?" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0764.html)

I don't get it.

Procyonpi

2013-03-20, 09:39 PM

I don't get it.

Malack's robe goes all the way to the ground, concealing the fact that he doesn't have feet.

The Linker

2013-03-21, 12:57 AM

Oh. Well... was that a thing to be foreshadowed? I don't know that it was ever a secret that he was a different kind of reptile thing. Like, I think the characters probably knew, even if the average reader assumed otherwise. It just wasn't a big thing.

Carl

2013-03-21, 01:04 AM

Durkon clearly didn't know and maybe with the exceptions of Haley and Elan i think everyone would have said something if they'd noticed.

The Linker

2013-03-21, 02:49 PM

We're not talking about him being a vampire, here, right? I thought it was just that he was a specific kind of lizardfolk that moves around on his body/tail thing rather than on legs.

Unless being a vampire does that to you. I don't really know all that much about lizardfolk and vampires.

hamishspence

2013-03-21, 02:53 PM

Halfblood yuan-ti do have at least the possibility of ending up with a tail and no legs, and a snaky head.

Alternatively, he might be a lizardfolk based on one of those lizards that only have forelegs.

Carl

2013-03-21, 03:41 PM

@Linker: No where taking about the fact that he's legless. Nobody knew that prior to him pulling that trick out on Durkon in their fight.

The Linker

2013-03-21, 08:51 PM

That's what I was talking about, yeah. I don't know. I didn't personally see it as some big surprise. Rather, I sort of thought "Oh yeah I guess I should have seen that," what with panels like panel 3 here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0869.html). I feel like the characters would have noticed either way, being in an infinitely better position to distinguish between a guy walking on legs and a guy sliding along on a tail. It's probably pretty plain if you're standing in front of him yourself. Durkon was surprised when he got wrapped up, sure, but that's not totally indicative that he didn't know about the lack of legs -- Malack was trying to move fast and catch him off-guard with a unique technique. It's going to be surprising. :smalltongue:

I guess it's possible either way. A perspective I hadn't considered.

thereaper

2013-03-21, 11:31 PM

In 864 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html), they were referencing Rich's injury.

Carl

2013-03-22, 12:27 AM

In 120 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0120.html) Elan and Haley are holding hands in the pose strip.

Awwwww

Even before they got together those two where adorable together :p

Lkctgo

2013-03-22, 12:42 AM

In solidarity with the linear guild evil opposites concept.

Z doesn't recognize the significance of the wall painting. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0856.html) as opposed to V instantly understanding the significance of the wall painting. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0843.html)

Z manages to find the trap while walking calmly, and Sabine laments not finding the trap. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0857.html) as opposed to V falling in the trap while running wildly (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0843.html) and Haley managing to find the trap easily. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0853.html)

ReaderAt2046

2013-03-22, 08:37 AM

People keep forgetting that Nale (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0806.html, pnl 8-9) and Elan (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0881.html, pnl 7) are spellcasters.

Finagle

2013-03-22, 11:22 AM

I never noticed that in #881, in the second panel Elan is shedding a tear. The good guys can't lose, that's not how the story goes!

Peelee

2013-03-22, 11:35 AM

On rereading Roy's battle in the arena, in the second-to-last-panel, there's a guard holding an axe as they wheel out the champion. I just now noticed how bloodstained that axe blade is.

Lkctgo

2013-03-23, 03:04 AM

Durkon pours himself a cup of beer after tasting the tea. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0737.html)

Werbaer

2013-03-23, 04:57 AM

Durkon pours himself a cup of beer after tasting the tea. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0737.html)
I assumed he spices the tea with dwarven brandy (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0373.html)

asphias

2013-03-23, 06:56 AM

Belkar has actually been bonding with mr. scruffy well before he became his pet.

namely http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0379.html and http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0379.html

MeanMrsMustard

2013-03-23, 10:42 AM

In the first panel (www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0400.html), Haley's pointing at Elan.

The Linker

2013-03-23, 01:48 PM

Belkar has actually been bonding with mr. scruffy well before he became his pet.

namely http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0379.html and http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0379.html

An example so good it deserves to be read twice. :smalltongue:

Magdela

2013-03-23, 02:41 PM

I just noticed Tarquin is Nale AND Elan's dad.

jamiah93

2013-03-23, 05:14 PM

Rui

2013-03-23, 05:21 PM

In the second panel you can see Elan's tear on his cheek. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0881.html)

SavageWombat

2013-03-23, 05:25 PM

The wizard that teleported (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0340.html) the order to Cliffport had to been at least level 18 to take 6 people along with him(1 medium creature or smaller per 3 levels) (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Teleport).

While this is true, it also seems to be a rule Rich ignores for story purposes. If you like, imagine that the wizard has a PrC that increases your teleport weight limit.