Tiger Lich???

[jack101]

Okay, so a Lich is a evil being template, yada yada yada, but since it's a template, does that mean that it can TECHNICALLY be attached to an animanl (Such as a Tiger?)? If so, what are the stats for that?

[VGLordR2]

Lich can only be applied to creatures with the Humanoid type. Tigers have the Animal type, so they cannot acquire the Lich template.

[TuggyNE]

Also, the lich template requires spellcasting (caster level 11th), which not many tigers have.

[shortround]

On the other hand, Anthromorphic Bears are a thing, so Bear Liches sounds like something fun to say.

[Arcanist]

On the other hand, Anthromorphic Bears are a thing, so Bear Liches sounds like something fun to say.

That would be a Monstrous Bear Bear Humanoid :smallbiggrin:

[Zrak]

Also, the lich template requires spellcasting (caster level 11th), which not many tigers have.

Of course, it can be done (http://trollcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/bloodninja_cybersex_trollcat_i_put_on_my_robe_and_ wizard_hat.jpg).

[Alleran]

On the other hand, Anthromorphic Bears are a thing, so Bear Liches sounds like something fun to say.
Seeing one of those coming at you in a dark alley would be a kodiak moment, that's for sure.

[Cranthis]

Of course the lich template can be applied to it. It just needs to be an awakened tiger, who got really lucky on the INT roll, for at least a 15, then started taking class levels.

[TuggyNE]

Of course the lich template can be applied to it. It just needs to be an awakened tiger, who got really lucky on the INT roll, for at least a 15, then started taking class levels.

That actually doesn't work, as VGLordR2 already said; neither tigers (awakened or otherwise) nor bears (even anthropomorphic) are Humanoids. They're Animals, Magical Beasts, Animals, or Monstrous Humanoids respectively.

[Arcanist]

Of course the lich template can be applied to it. It just needs to be an awakened tiger, who got really lucky on the INT roll, for at least a 15, then started taking class levels.

But... It still has the Animal type :smallconfused: How are you converting the Animal into a Humanoid?

EDIT: Ninja's. Ninja's everywhere! :smallfurious:

[Analytica]

The Pathfinder lich template does not require humanoid though. Otherwise, you could achieve something similar with the Lichfiend template and something that makes the tiger an evil outsider first.

[Cranthis]

Well then let your DM houserule that anything that can do the proper magic and processes to become a lich, can be one.

[Arcanist]

Well then let your DM houserule that anything that can do the proper magic and processes to become a lich, can be one.

Bards can become Lichs. Rangers. Paladins (But that Code of Conduct is nuked). In my opinion anything that can obtain a caster level of 11+ can effectively become a Lich. (this is of course a house rule though...)

[Cranthis]

Bards can become Lichs. Rangers. Paladins (But that Code of Conduct is nuked). In my opinion anything that can obtain a caster level of 11+ can effectively become a Lich. (this is of course a house rule though...)

Pretty much, yeah. There is no given caster limit, only the ability to cast spells.

[Zrak]

Seeing one of those coming at you in a dark alley would be a kodiak moment, that's for sure.

It'd be a spectacled, that's for sure.

I can imagine bear liches would really polarize players, though. The flamewars could get pretty grizzly. Regardless of what people think, fighting one would sure be a stickney situation.

[Arcanist]

Pretty much, yeah. There is no given caster limit, only the ability to cast spells.


The character must be able to cast spells and have a caster level of 11th or higher.

Personally, I prefer using the Dicefreak approach for the Lich template which completely nixes the whole Caster level requirement. All you have to be able to do is perform the required ritual. :smallsmile:


It'd be a spectacled, that's for sure.

I can imagine bear liches would really polarize players, though. The flamewars could get pretty grizzly. Regardless of what people think, fighting one would sure be a stickney situation.

These are the first puns that I've ever seen that legitimately made me want to become a Lich, kill myself and reform just so I can smash my phylactery and kill myself again. :smalltongue:

[Eldan]

You could go for a Rakshasa Lichfiend instead.

[Arcanist]

You could go for a Rakshasa Lichfiend instead.

Is their actually a way to get the Lich template and still getting 9th? I recall the buy back system going up to +4 and letting them buy it off to just barely get 9th level spells :smallsmile:

... A GISH-THEURGE LICH WITH BUY BACK! (9th level casting). CAN IT BE DONE!? :smallconfused:

[Eldan]

Ur-Priest and /or Seeker of the Song? That would give you ninths. Caster level wouldbe a problem, but can be corrected.

[Alleran]

These are the first puns that I've ever seen that legitimately made me want to become a Lich, kill myself and reform just so I can smash my phylactery and kill myself again. :smalltongue:
I know. There's just no koalaty in them.

[Wookie-ranger]

Seeing one of those coming at you in a dark alley would be a kodiak moment, that's for sure.

:smallbiggrin:I see what you did there.