Sudain
2012-11-19, 12:59 PM
Appraise (Int)
Check
You can appraise common or well-known objects with a DC 12 Appraise check. Failure means that you estimate the value at 50% to 150% (2d6+3 times 10%,) of its actual value.
Appraising a rare or exotic item requires a successful check against DC 15, 20, or higher. If the check is successful, you estimate the value correctly; failure means you cannot estimate the item’s value.
A magnifying glass gives you a +2 circumstance bonus on Appraise checks involving any item that is small or highly detailed, such as a gem. A merchant’s scale gives you a +2 circumstance bonus on Appraise checks involving any items that are valued by weight, including anything made of precious metals.
These bonuses stack.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/appraise.htm for those that wish read the full text and figure out how to min/max this. :)
So to make sure I understand this skill, wold appraise change the buy/sell value of the item? For easy math let's assume I'm working with a Longsword (Medium) (+1 weapon, Flaming) (8315 gp), that happened to kill some important dragon or some such from a hero's time long past.
So I'd need a DC 15 check to appraise the item at all; otherwise I have no idea it's value. If I fail, I got no clue. If I succeed I roll a 2d6+3 to determine my estimation. 2+3 * 50% = 50% value, 12+3 = 15*10% = 150% value. 2*3.5) + 3 = 10 * 10 = 100% Average Value.
So if i succeed I can appraise higher or lower; but if I fail then no dice. There doesn't seem to be much incentive to use this skill at all as I'm changing the buy/sell price randomly for or against me(assuming I'm making all the checks).
HOWEVER, I don't see anything that says I have to USE the value I Appraised at.
Let's say I appraise the above sword at 120% of it's value 8315 * 1.2 = 9978. I should then be able to sell it for that much. But let's say I appraise it at 80% of it's actual worth; 8315 * .8 = 6652. If I take it to the vendor then I can choose not to tell him about my Appraisal and have him see what he thinks it's worth. Then I take the higher.
If I'm buying the sword I'd obviously want to use the lower dice if possible, while avoiding the higher.
Do I understand this correctly?
Check
You can appraise common or well-known objects with a DC 12 Appraise check. Failure means that you estimate the value at 50% to 150% (2d6+3 times 10%,) of its actual value.
Appraising a rare or exotic item requires a successful check against DC 15, 20, or higher. If the check is successful, you estimate the value correctly; failure means you cannot estimate the item’s value.
A magnifying glass gives you a +2 circumstance bonus on Appraise checks involving any item that is small or highly detailed, such as a gem. A merchant’s scale gives you a +2 circumstance bonus on Appraise checks involving any items that are valued by weight, including anything made of precious metals.
These bonuses stack.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/appraise.htm for those that wish read the full text and figure out how to min/max this. :)
So to make sure I understand this skill, wold appraise change the buy/sell value of the item? For easy math let's assume I'm working with a Longsword (Medium) (+1 weapon, Flaming) (8315 gp), that happened to kill some important dragon or some such from a hero's time long past.
So I'd need a DC 15 check to appraise the item at all; otherwise I have no idea it's value. If I fail, I got no clue. If I succeed I roll a 2d6+3 to determine my estimation. 2+3 * 50% = 50% value, 12+3 = 15*10% = 150% value. 2*3.5) + 3 = 10 * 10 = 100% Average Value.
So if i succeed I can appraise higher or lower; but if I fail then no dice. There doesn't seem to be much incentive to use this skill at all as I'm changing the buy/sell price randomly for or against me(assuming I'm making all the checks).
HOWEVER, I don't see anything that says I have to USE the value I Appraised at.
Let's say I appraise the above sword at 120% of it's value 8315 * 1.2 = 9978. I should then be able to sell it for that much. But let's say I appraise it at 80% of it's actual worth; 8315 * .8 = 6652. If I take it to the vendor then I can choose not to tell him about my Appraisal and have him see what he thinks it's worth. Then I take the higher.
If I'm buying the sword I'd obviously want to use the lower dice if possible, while avoiding the higher.
Do I understand this correctly?