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odigity
2012-11-22, 08:14 AM
The feat gives you extra spells every level to stick in your spellbook.

http://dndtools.eu/feats/complete-arcane--55/collegiate-wizard--382/

So what happens if you retrain the feat? The principle of balanced rules would say you should lose the benfit of having the feat, but there's no in-game plausible explanation for why the pages in your spellbook would suddenly disappear.

So, does that mean you could end up with extra spells and the benefit of your newly-minted, retrained feat at the same time?

Pilo
2012-11-22, 08:22 AM
I think, for fluff reasons, you should not be able to retrain this one.


From the fluff text of the feat:
You have undergone extensive training in a formal school for wizards.

Azoth
2012-11-22, 08:37 AM
Your DM could have something happen to your spell book causing the pages containing your extra spells from collegiate wizard to be damaged beyond your ability to repair. Then either make you pay the cost to scribe them as a "repair" cost to your spell book...or make you hunt down scrolls to replace them over time.

Spuddles
2012-11-22, 08:43 AM
The feat gives you extra spells every level to stick in your spellbook.

http://dndtools.eu/feats/complete-arcane--55/collegiate-wizard--382/

So what happens if you retrain the feat? The principle of balanced rules would say you should lose the benfit of having the feat, but there's no in-game plausible explanation for why the pages in your spellbook would suddenly disappear.

So, does that mean you could end up with extra spells and the benefit of your newly-minted, retrained feat at the same time?

If the benefit from the feat are more spells, then losing the feat means you lose those spells. The pages are still there, you just don't remember what they do any more.

Wookie-ranger
2012-11-22, 10:30 AM
If the benefit from the feat are more spells, then losing the feat means you lose those spells. The pages are still there, you just don't remember what they do any more.

+1, this seams like to most reasonable explanation.
It might be possible to allow the spells that are 'lost' still to be used, but you have to use the rules for casting/preparing from another wizards spellbook. Just an idea.