Arcane Prestige class that gives martial weapon proficiency?

[barna10]

Can you think of an Arcane Prestige class that gives martial weapon proficiency?

[Anderlith]

Depends, 3.5 or Pathfinder?

[barna10]

Preferably 3.5 (or 3.0)

[tyckspoon]

Dip ok, or does it have to be something you stay in for the long term? If you can dip, Dragonslayer (Draconomicon) gives +1 BAB, +1 caster level, and proficiency with all martial + all armor and shields at 1st level. Prereqs are kind of a pain, tho.

[eggs]

Dragonslayer from Draconomicon's the most common dip. There might be others, but it's pretty accessible.

[Wings of Peace]

Dragonslayer.

[Anderlith]

Eldritch Knight of course, spellsword, & that's about it.

[barna10]

I was hoping for a lower BAB requirement. Darn.

[Venger]

Can you think of an Arcane Prestige class that gives martial weapon proficiency?

do you need proficiency with all martial weapons, or just one? does it need to be a prc? how much of your build is set in stone?

factotum gives MWP, and a 1 or 3 level dip is good for almost all builds that care about int.

what sort of character are you building? how important is the advancement of casting for you?

occult slayer and witch slayer both give MWP and are comparatively easy to get into, but neither advance casting.

most arcane gish classes require MWP with 1 thing. are you a dread necro? they get 1 MWP. do you have room for human paragon (if you're human) ? they also get to select 1 MWP

[barna10]

I thought about Human Paragon. I need the spellcasting progression.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

The Outsider creature type (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#outsiderType) automatically grants proficiency in all martial weapons, so maybe use +0 LA Aasimar or Tiefling (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a) and you'll never have to spend a level (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20030824a) on the +1 LA and other racial traits.

[Venger]

The Outsider creature type (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#outsiderType) automatically grants proficiency in all martial weapons, so maybe use +0 LA Aasimar or Tiefling (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a) and you'll never have to spend a level (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20030824a) on the +1 LA and other racial traits.

or you could just cut out the middleman and roll up a neraph from the planar handbook. it's LA 0 so you can still have 20 class levels. make your own battletoads joke

[Andezzar]

The Outsider creature type (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#outsiderType) automatically grants proficiency in all martial weapons, so maybe use +0 LA Aasimar or Tiefling (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a) and you'll never have to spend a level (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20030824a) on the +1 LA and other racial traits.The lesser tieflings ans aasimar are not outsiders and as such do not gain proficiency with all martial weapons. Savage progressions AFAIK need to take all the levels in the "racial class" before taking actual class levels.

[Darrin]

Savage progressions AFAIK need to take all the levels in the "racial class" before taking actual class levels.

Actually, they don't. Which was explained in the "never spend a level" link that he provided.

[mattie_p]

Yeah, the actual rule is "Characters are not required to complete all the levels of a given template class in uninterrupted succession." What this means for a character is they can always delay the template class until "sometime after next level" which means in practice after the campaign ends.

EDIT:
Eldritch Knight of course, spellsword, & that's about it.
Both Eldritch Knight and Spellsword require all MWP, they do not grant it.

[eggs]

Savage progressions AFAIK need to take all the levels in the "racial class" before taking actual class levels.
It's not intuitive at all, but that's the major difference between Savage Species's monster classes (which do require all levels) and the Savage Progression article series' template classes (which can be dipped).

[ThiagoMartell]

Ruathar, from Races of the Wild. Only requires 3rd level spells (or other requirements irrelevant for a spellcaster), grants proficiency with the elven weapons while advancing casting.

[Andezzar]

Ruathar, from Races of the Wild. Only requires 3rd level spells (or other requirements irrelevant for a spellcaster), grants proficiency with the elven weapons while advancing casting.You get proficiency with only one of the weapons elves are proficient with. I don't know if that is enough.

[Telonius]

If you just need one martial weapon, any Elf will work. If it's all martial weapons, Arcane Archer (an otherwise horrible prestige class) will get you what you want for three feats and a lost caster level.

For a Bard, Battle Howler of Gruumsh will grant proficiency in all martial weapons.

[Darth Stabber]

Given the frequency with which people will adapt caster prcs to psionics, you could do the reverse that for slayer, and it's a fairly easily qualified for class, but it loses a caster level on the first level.