whirling frenzy Barbarian/scout?

[chaotician375]

New character idea that id like some help flushing out.
Im thinking human scout 11/Barbarian 9 with the Whirling frenzy acf.
I'm thinking twf, weapon finesse, improved skirmish (+2d6, +2ac if you move an additional 10ft) and... i don't know what else.
Are there any PrCs that improve skirmish that would meld nicely with this.
Any other feat suggestions, skill tricks, or gear even.

With a 28 point buy I'm thinking
str-10
dex-16
con-16
int-10
wis-12
cha-8

[Urpriest]

Are you also getting Spirit Lion Totem? You'll almost certainly want pounce.

Weapon Finesse isn't really needed. I'd switch Str and Dex. You'll get more benefit from Whirling Frenzy that way anyway.

There are a couple skill tricks that let you turn when you charge, I'd get one of those.

There really aren't any PrCs that improve skirmish beyond things that bring in castery elements. I might go for some levels of Ranger with Swift Hunter, though, depending on if multiclassing penalties are a factor. Swift Hunter will also let you use skirmish on undead/constructs.

[Darrin]

Im thinking human scout 11/Barbarian 9 with the Whirling frenzy acf.


Why so much Barbarian?



I'm thinking twf, weapon finesse, improved skirmish (+2d6, +2ac if you move an additional 10ft) and... i don't know what else.


Well, Swift Hunter springs to mind... any particular reason you're not including any Ranger?



Are there any PrCs that improve skirmish that would meld nicely with this.


Yes. Highland Stalker progresses skirmish damage at the same rate as Scout, and is worth at least a 2-level dip if you've already taken Ranger. There are also a few PrCs that can advance bonus damage (sneak attack, sudden strike, or skirmish), and actually do so a little quicker than Scout:

Dragon Devotee 4 (+2d6 skirmish damage)
Unseen Seer 4 (+2d6 skirmish damage)
Hand of the Winged Masters 10 (+3d6+10)

But first, if you just want a Scout 4/Ranger 13/Barbarian 1 (with a dash of Whirling Frenzy + Pounce):

Race: Human, Azurin, Strongheart Halfing, or Frostblood Orc/Half-Orc
1) Ranger 1. Feat: Travel Devotion, Bonus: Combat Reflexes, Bonus: Track
2) Ranger 2. Bonus: TWF
3) Spirit Lion Totem Barbarian 1. Feat: Travel Devotion (x2).
4) Scout 1. Skirmish 1d6.
5) Scout 2.
6) Scout 3. Feat: Swift Hunter. Skirmish 1d6AC+1.
7) Scout 4. Bonus: Improved Skirmish. Skirmish 2d6AC+1/4d6AC+3.
8) Ranger 3. Bonus: Endurance. Skirmish 2d6AC+2/4d6AC+4.
9) Ranger 4. Feat: Leap Attack.
10) Ranger 5. Skirmish 3d6AC+2/5d6AC+4.
11) Ranger 6. Bonus: Imp. TWF
12) Highland Stalker 1. Feat: Double Hit (Miniatures HB).
13) Highland Stalker 2. Skirmish 4d6AC+2/6d6AC+4.
14) Ranger 7. Skirmish 4d6AC+3/6d6AC+5.
15) Ranger 8. Feat: Robilar's Gambit (PHBII).
16) Ranger 9. Skirmish 5d6AC+3/7d6AC+5.
17) Ranger 10.
18) Ranger 11. Feat: Travel Devotion (x3). Bonus: Gr. TWF. Skirmish 5d6AC+4/7d6AC+6.
19) Ranger 12.
20) Ranger 13. Camouflage. Skirmish 6d6AC+4/8d6AC+6.


Or, if you want to maximize skirmish damage, we can get up to 10d6 with Dragon Devotee/Unseen Seer:

Race: Human, Azurin, Strongheart Halfing, Frostblood Orc/Half-Orc
1) Ranger 1. Feat: Travel Devotion, Bonus: Combat Reflexes, Bonus: Track.
2) Ranger 2. Bonus: TWF.
3) Scout 1. Feat: Travel Devotion (x2). Skirmish 1d6.
4) Scout 2.
5) Scout 3. Skirmish 1d6AC+1.
6) Scout 4. Feat: Swift Hunter. Bonus: Improved Skirmish. Skirmish 2d6AC+1/4d6AC+3.
7) Dragon Devotee 1.
8) Dragon Devotee 2. Skirmish 3d6AC+1/5d6AC+3.
9) Dragon Devotee 3. Feat: Improved TWF. 1st level Sorcerer casting (get at least 2 divination spells).
10) Dragon Devotee 4. Skirmish 4d6AC+1/6d6AC+3.
11) Unseen Seer 1. Skirmish 5d6AC+1/7d6AC+3.
12) Unseen Seer 2. Feat: Double Hit (Miniatures HB). Advanced Learning: Hunter's Eye.
13) Unseen Seer 3.
14) Unseen Seer 4. Skirmish 6d6AC+1/8d6AC+3.
15) Highland Stalker 1. Feat: Robilar's Gambit (PHBII).
16) Highland Stalker 2. Skirmish 7d6AC+1/9d6AC+3.
17) Ranger 3. Bonus: Endurance. Skirmish 7d6AC+2/9d6AC+4.
18) Ranger 4. Feat: Greater TWF.
19) Ranger 5. Skirmish 8d6AC+2/10d6AC+4.
20) Spellsword 1*.

BAB = +17, 7th level Sorcerer casting (3rd level spells)

* = Optional. You could swap in Barbarian 1 at an earlier level for Whirling Frenzy + Spirit Lion Totem.