What would you choose?

[Pyromancer999]

Say some magical genie or something came to you, and was willing to grant you a level from any one class and any single feat from D&D 3.5e.

What class and feat would you choose, homebrew included?


Note: In case anyone is wondering what this will be used for, going to use it for a future adventure for the group I'm DMing.

Edit: Although it was sort of implied, the class should be a base class, and the feat should be one a first level character could qualify and meet the prerequisites for.

[docnessuno]

Powergaming choice: Ithillid savant
Optimizer choice: Any good PRC with nasty feat taxes or entry requirements (Dweomerkeeper for example).

Feat: An epic feat or something at the end of a long chain. Otherwise something i woud never qualify for (racial restrictions, regional, etc.).

[Kumori]

Cheesey answer: I'd homebrew a class that gets full at will casting at first level.

"Realistic" answer: Wizard or Sorcerer. I've always wanted to be able to do real magic. Feat would have to Epic Speed (you never said I had to meet the requisites).

[Fates]

I might go with warlock...you know, that way I could get some magic I could use as many times as I wanted...but then...I'd spend the rest of my life wondering whether I chose the right invocation. Nah, I'd choose druid. Tons of different spells to choose from, a fun new pet, and so much more!

Feat-wise, I would choose the extended life span epic feat (if that's allowed) and Jack of All Trades if I have to meet the requirements. :smallbiggrin:

[Chilingsworth]

Class: Beguiler (PHB2, not the PrC)

Feat: Spell Focus (Enchantment)

[White_Drake]

I'd hate to have to prep spells every day, but my charisma score isn't getting me anywhere with DCs, so I'd go wizard. I think that the ability to use any skill in a world of first level commoners would actually be really nice, so I'd go with Jack-of-all-Trades for the feat.

[Daer]

hmm perhaps warlock for beguiling influence
and feat perhaps dark transition (greater teleport at will and +30 flight speed)
or shadowmaster (any conjuring wizard spell up to 8th level at will, though 80% as efficient one though. )

well if feat would be level 1 feat then perhaps artificer or wizard with toymaker feat

[Amphetryon]

Binder: Improved Binding (Malphas).

[Dimers]

Factotum, for class. I don't know feats very well ... might just go for Open Minded, because you can always use more skill points. Hidden Talent, if that's allowed. There are some nice 1st-level psi powers. An arcanist should, of course, take the feat that gives you a second-level spell once per day. But I'd still take Factotum for class.

[Devmaar]

Sorcerer.
I'd take prestidigitation as a spell known.
Does anything else matter?

[Amnestic]

Dragonfire Adept.

Beguiling Influence as my invocation, Entangling Exhalation as my feat.

[limejuicepowder]

Spell casting, even first level spell casting, is insanely inviting. Though preparing spells every day would suck (remember, it's not just wizards that have to prepare....even sorcs have to meditate or w/e for an hour as well).

That's assuming of course you have at least an 11 in the casting stat xD. And I still wouldn't go for a lot of save:yes spells.

I think I might go for barbarian and take run and epic speed. Start a career as an olympic sprinter (yay for 70 foot base speed. 70 x 5 = 350. I could run the 100m in a little under 6 seconds).

[JeminiZero]

Wizard or Sorcerer (more likely Wizard, since my Int is better than my Cha), Precocious Apprentice: Detect Thoughts

[koboldish]

Well, you said "a level", not the first level or the next level, so if I took the third level of Shadowcraft Mage....

For a more realistic answer, I would probably take another level in one of the classes I was currently in (I don't really think I would want a single level in a random class).

For a feat? Hmmm... Probably something at the end of a long chain, like an epic feat or one of the other feats posted here.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Mindbender and Mindsight.

[White_Drake]

Spell casting, even first level spell casting, is insanely inviting. Though preparing spells every day would suck (remember, it's not just wizards that have to prepare....even sorcs have to meditate or w/e for an hour as well).

Actually, this brings up a valid point: if you had access to first level casting, would you bother memorizing your spells every day? Spells are nice, but there are some times when I would honestly prefer another hour of sleep.

[limejuicepowder]

Actually, this brings up a valid point: if you had access to first level casting, would you bother memorizing your spells every day? Spells are nice, but there are some times when I would honestly prefer another hour of sleep.

It's true. For the most part, 1st level spells would serve as no more than "party tricks," or as jokes on your friends. Small effects and very short durations means I can't think of a single spell that would be extremely useful in every day modern life.

Charm Person would be one of the best, and that's only if you have literally no morals at all.

[White_Drake]

Charm Person would be one of the best, and that's only if you have literally no morals at all.

Sorry, no whats?

Mending and prestidigitation could both come in handy. Actually, I think that cantrips would probably be handier than level ones because many of them are utility, and you have more of them.

[Erik Vale]

Like another had mentioned, I would quickly make a 1 class pun pun, and take it.
Realistically, I would take what furthered my own profession further.

[limejuicepowder]

Sorry, no whats?

Mending and prestidigitation could both come in handy. Actually, I think that cantrips would probably be handier than level ones because many of them are utility, and you have more of them.

First let me check I spelled it right......and that's an affirmative.

No morals = not being a moral person. Infringing upon someone's sovereignty with a spell is pretty evil, IMO.

[White_Drake]

My apologies, let me rephrase:

Sorry, no whats?

[Toy Killer]

I would probably go for factorum. I mean, seriously, screw one class when I can be all of them. Able learner, as a feat I suppose?

[limejuicepowder]

My apologies, let me rephrase:

Sorry, no whats?

Ah hah. Sorry, I rolled a 1 on my sense motive. Or I just have low wisdom. Guess cleric and druid are right out.

[Darth Stabber]

Psion, don't have to worry about components or anything of that nature, just think about what I want to have happen. And I arrogantly feel that I would have decent casting stat. Definitely will pick skate as a power, not a powergaming choice, but it's 1pp for style points.

Feat, psicrystal affinity. Observant personality.

[Malimar]

CHA and WIS are two of my five dump stats, and I probably wouldn't be able to find scrolls (or special inks) to properly power wizard or archivist.

So: probably psion (telepath). Powers known: probably psionic charm person, call to mind, and psionic endure elements.

For my feat and psion bonus feat, I'm thinking 2x Psionic Talent, to bring me up to a slightly more respectable 7 PP/day.

[Coidzor]

Cleric and Druid certainly would have some interesting ramifications assuming this is an IRL-esque scenario.

As for abilities, probably Wizard or Warlock due to the social gaming afforded by Charm Person and Beguiling Influence.

[Rubik]

I'm taking the 21st level in magic mantle/spell-to-power erudite, with all that implies. Also, Dragonwrought Kobold. Epic Manifesting, if possible.

[maximus25]

Wizard as class, Jack of All Trades as feat.

As others have pointed out, you are limited in spells per day, but you get a familiar and as a bonus feat for taking Wizard one: Scribe Scroll.

Boom, any free time you got can be used making a lot of 0 level spell scrolls. A wizard's Spellbook has all the 0 level spells in it.

Have fun.

[Kazyan]

Transmuter Wizard with the Enhance Attribute ACF, banning Conjuration and Necromancy. Feat: Iron Will.

I can have a +1 when I need it, +4 to a stat that really matters in life, and prestidigitation/mage hand/mending.

[Namfuak]

By "Available to first level characters," I'm going on the assumption I have 15 int.

Transmutation Specialist wizard (Ban Conj and Abj), Precocious Apprentice. The spell I would probably pick for precocious apprentice would be Alter Self, and I would have an extra 2nd level slot from the specialization (which I would likely put either Eagle's Splendor or Fox's Cunning in, although Disrobe from the forbidden book would be fun), as well as a free first level slot (likely for charm person).

[Wookie-ranger]

Class: Beholder Mage (It IS a level 1 class, after all)
Feat: Wedded to history (Don't think immortality is that 'cool'? we should talk about this some other time; may be in 500 years or so, oh wait, never mind)

Why? Because why not.

[Rubik]

Class: Beholder Mage (It IS a level 1 class, after all)
Feat: Wedded to history (Don't think immortality is that 'cool'? we should talk about this some other time; may be in 500 years or so, oh wait, never mind)

Why? Because why not.Uh... Can I change my feat choice?

[TuggyNE]

Why has no one mentioned Lightning Warrior? (I would have no use for a familiar, so its sacrifice of power isn't too big a deal.)

And then I'd maybe take Hidden Talent.

[Invader]

As you didn't say it had to be the first level of any class I'd take one 20th level of wizard. After that I'm not to worried about the feat.

Remember, follow the letter of the law not the spirit. :smallbiggrin:

[JaronK]

Actually, that won't work. Your casting is based on the number of Wizard levels you have, not which levels they are. This actually comes up with Kobolds taking the 7th level of Sorcerer at second level... they just get higher BAB and saves this way.

Also, he did mention later that he meant the first level of a base class.

I really can't top Wedding to History + Beholder Mage 1, though.

JaronK

[Invader]

Actually, that won't work. Your casting is based on the number of Wizard levels you have, not which levels they are. This actually comes up with Kobolds taking the 7th level of Sorcerer at second level... they just get higher BAB and saves this way.

Also, he did mention later that he meant the first level of a base class.

I really can't top Wedding to History + Beholder Mage 1, though.

JaronK

It was obviously a joke...

[Mjollnir075]

Well, with only getting a single level, I wanna say.. Soulknife or Binder. Just for style, really. For the feat.. either Improved Binding for Binder or Skill Focus (Knowledge (history)) or something for a more practical use despite being non-class related.

[Wookie-ranger]

Uh... Can I change my feat choice?

:smallbiggrin:


Now, IF PrCs would be an option, that would change things.
The Beholder Mage is powerful and all, but a single level... meh.
PrC: Thrallherd (For ALL the cheese!)

[Rubik]

If I (IRL) could have any level of any character class at first level? Probably human wizard, with all my feats geared toward putting as many (and as many high-level) spells in my spellbooks as possible (as well as that feat which reduces the cost of buying one item per month), and then trading the books for the money they're worth. Then trading that money for a reduced price candle of invocation.

[Phaederkiel]

I think I would go with a conjurer wizard, abrupt jaunt is one of the reasons, the other beeing an ability to cast mage armor. If you ever have worn an armor (or say rather than worn[which is quite comfortable]: carried it to the renfaire you have to perform at, you sure have a certain envy for guys who can summon an armor.

feat choice: since I cannot find wed to history, I think i would go with knowledge devotion (if I can skip prereqs) and with animal devotion if I cant.
Strength of the bear, the whole shibang.

that is, if I can assume that I keep my proficiency with great swords :)


else, I would probably want to be a savage bard, and use snowflake wardance. That sounds useful. or greenbound summoning.

[Wookie-ranger]

feat choice: since I cannot find wed to history

Its in Dragon 354 or {Scrubbed}

[Randomguy]

Beholder mage would be the best choice, but technically without eye-stalks you wouldn't be able to actually cast spells, which would suck.

Otherwise, I'd pick wedded to history and take a level of wizard with the eidetic spellcaster ACF, so no expensive spellbook. Preparing spells would suck, but it's probably better than having only 2 spells known as a sorcerer/beholder mage.

Oh, and I'd be a domain wizard with the conjuration domain, and the spells in my "spellbook" would include Scholar's Touch, Endure Elements and Unseen servant.

[White_Drake]

Crap, I forgot about spellbooks. If you keep the value the same it would cost thousands of dollars to buy a spellbook and component pouch. Would the genie give you these as well, would the price be in dollars rather than gp (without conversion), or would you convert gp to dollars at the current exchange rate for prices, thus resulting in an incredibly expensive spellbook?

[Coidzor]

Crap, I forgot about spellbooks. If you keep the value the same it would cost thousands of dollars to buy a spellbook and component pouch. Would the genie give you these as well, would the price be in dollars rather than gp (without conversion), or would you convert gp to dollars at the current exchange rate for prices, thus resulting in an incredibly expensive spellbook?

If people can't recognize the value of something it is essentially worthless, on the other hand.

[Gigas Breaker]

Class: Factotum
Feat: improved initiative
Human feat: able learner

Thought there would be more humans in this thread.

[White_Drake]

Class: Factotum
Feat: improved initiative
Human feat: able learner

Thought there would be more humans in this thread.

It's pretty offensive that you would hold a diverse community to your prejudiced standards.

[Namfuak]

Class: Factotum
Feat: improved initiative
Human feat: able learner

Thought there would be more humans in this thread.

My understand was I was choosing a base class and a feat, not a race.

[Wookie-ranger]

Crap, I forgot about spellbooks. If you keep the value the same it would cost thousands of dollars to buy a spellbook and component pouch. Would the genie give you these as well, would the price be in dollars rather than gp (without conversion), or would you convert gp to dollars at the current exchange rate for prices, thus resulting in an incredibly expensive spellbook?

Can we say that we get the standard starting package for the class?

[Pyromancer999]

Can we say that we get the standard starting package for the class?

Yes, that can be assumed.

[Wookie-ranger]

Yes, that can be assumed.

So that would give me that starting gold, too.
PHB p111
or around 100gp more or less,
50gp = 1lb Gold bar (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/wealthAndMoney.htm#wealthOtherThanCoins)
[insert math here]
that would be somewhere along the lines of $14,500. sweet:smallbiggrin:

[Malimar]

Class: Factotum
Feat: improved initiative
Human feat: able learner

Thought there would be more humans in this thread.

All of us already have a level of Commoner (a handful of us may have an Expert or Warrior level instead). We didn't get to pick our first level feats, so we all wound up with crud like Alertness or Toughness or Iron Will.

By the terms of the thread, the only things we're getting from the genie are an extra level and a bonus feat (neither of which can be anything we couldn't normally qualify for).

[White_Drake]

If you got the starting package you would only get something like a d4 gp after all of the equipment. Of course, if both my numbers and my figuring are right (mathematics aren't exactly my strong suit), a gold piece should be worth 483.17$. So, a little spending money.

[HunterOfJello]

Beguiler or Psion. I definitely have an intelligence score of 12+, so I could handle basic intelligence based spellcasting/manifesting.

If this is for the real world and there is a possibility for increasing in levels, then I'd go Psion with... I dunno. Binder is a tempting class since it comes with Naberius, but it requires the entire binding process to be done every 24 hours and that could prove difficult to pull off.
I might not have the charisma for Sorcerering. Hmm...

If I only get 1 level and no possibility for higher levels in this world, then I'd go with Beguiler and take the feat Arcane Disciple (Healing Domain) so that I could cast the occasional Cure Light Wounds when necessary.

The wide spell list and spontaneous casting is too tempting.

[Morph Bark]

Kobold Paragon.

> Beholder Mage, and no need to pick one feat. :smallamused:

More reasonably, I'd pick Bard and Wedded to History.

[galan]

cleric with Cloistered Cleric ACF and worship myself (to choose domains. i am also not religious). not only i will know a lot of stuff, which is nice, i will also cure with my touch. as a feat.. 5 more skill point's are great, and as human feat i will take the feat from complete arcane that gives you 3 spell like abilitys (1 of them is Prestidigitation!) once a day. that's actually great IRL.

[Theoboldi]

I'm surprised so many people are picking Thrallherd. With the average charisma of a normal human, and only one level it would only net them a single first-level follower. Sure, you can have someone with different abilities each day, but I would prefer myself being the one who actually can do stuff.

Personally, I'd go with a level in beguiler, since I'm pretty sure I am intelligent enough to cast first level spells and I get all the ones on the beguiler list at first level.

For my feat I would choose Perfect Health (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/feats.htm#perfectHealth), since I'm not too keen on the whole immortality thing, but being sick still sucks.

[Certified]

Okay, my inner antagonist says go with Paladin of Ashur or something just so I can Lay on Hands and be Jesus, what name so?

Joking aside, maybe Warmage from Complete with Luck of Heroes as a Feat. While some people say the class is inferior to say a Duskblade I've always had a fondness for it.

If we're talking Pathfinder, likely Magus for the same reason.