Favorite Sci-fi icon

[Xerillum]

it's easy! pick your favorite scifi icon!

[Death, your friend the Reaper]

He who voted for Obi-wan, I find your lack of faith distrurbing.

[Flabbicus]

Ender's just a wuss that lives for way too long, so Darth Vader gets my vote.

[The Vorpal Tribble]

GO ENDER!

Yeah, a wuss that if you count his killings as his only achievments is up there in the billions.

[Lykan]

Ender is of my kin, that's my main reason. The other reason is that he is completly kick-ass.

[Archonic Energy]

Jean Luc Picard is missing!
as is The Doctor!

and who is "Ender"?

[Flabbicus]

GO ENDER!

Yeah, a wuss that if you count his killings as his only achievments is up there in the billions.

Bah! He cries too much! Bean is better!

[The Vorpal Tribble]

Bah! He cries too much! Bean is better!
I dunno, Bean got kinda teary in the last one.


and who is "Ender"?Oh, just the main character of one of the best sci-fi books/series ever written...

Ender's Game (http://www.amazon.com/Enders-Game-Ender-Book-1/dp/0812550706/sr=8-1/qid=1162343029/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-9012598-1848022?ie=UTF8&s=books)

[Flabbicus]

Well, I got kinda confused by the theoretical physics going on in the end of the Ender Saga, but then again I was 11 or so when I read it. Plus I've reread Bean's books more times.

I guess I'm just predisposed to him because I own all of the books with Bean in them and not all of the ones with Ender.

[The Vorpal Tribble]

Well, I got kinda confused by the theoretical physics going on in the end of the Ender Saga, but then again I was 11 or so when I read it. Plus I've reread Bean's books more times.

I guess I'm just predisposed to him because I own all of the books with Bean in them and not all of the ones with Ender.
I like both of them near equally. Ender's just a better people person ;)

[Flabbicus]

I like both of them near equally. Ender's just a better people person ;)

No argument here.


Graff would so be in the top 5 coolest characters.

[SirJimothy]

Darth Vader is just too much of a bad-ass not to vote for.

[LordOfNarf]

So, does the great and mighty Muad'Dib not get a regognition? Unfair and judgemetnal. Classless geeks.:smalltongue:

[Ian.of.Donald]

Gotta go with the Lord of Narf: No Usul, no vote...
or 'if there is no Atreides, make it so there is, please'
and 'without the Son of Leto, Ians gonna veto'

I could do this all day, serious...

[Death, your friend the Reaper]

I am a bit surprised The Doctor isn't up there as well.

Didn't his series run long enough for you?

[The Vorpal Tribble]

Yeah, Paul has to be listed up there.

[Closet_Skeleton]

Hmm... Three characters from a series I don't like (Star Trek), two characters who were ruined by new actors and someone from a book I've never read...

Does Neo count as a Sci-Fi icon? The Matrix has a greater claim to being Science Fiction than Star Wars.

This list seems to be a "Space Opera" icons test and since I don't like Space Opera I'm going to say Ripley.

[Saithis Bladewing]

Hmm... Three characters from a series I don't like (Star Trek), two characters who were ruined by new actors and someone from a book I've never read...

Does Neo count as a Sci-Fi icon? The Matrix has a greater claim to being Science Fiction than Star Wars.

This list seems to be a "Space Opera" icons test and since I don't like Space Opera I'm going to say Ripley.

[Darth Vader] I find your lack of faith......disturbing... [/Darth Vader]

[TheThan]

Vader has my vote!

[Timberwolf]

Vader got mine too but the Doctor would have had it if he'd been available.

[Logos7]

Screw Captain Kirk, Where's Picard?

[Bookman]

This list does seem very lacking. I mean Dr Who helped spawn all sci-fi shows if I remember correctly and we only get Worf from Star Trek? And what about the SG-1 love? It has people from only about 3 different mediums!

Dr Who would own them all

[Omniplex]

What about some more classic Sci-Fi? No Hal 9000 or the Monolith? None of the people from the Time Machine? Nor Asimov's foundation series? Or, as Lord of Narf pointed out, no Dune either. I'm dissapointed. ;(

[bosssmiley]

Original trilogy Vader.

When you can advertise a film with a blank screen and the sound of a character's breathing you *know* you're dealing with an icon. :smallcool:

[Lord Iames Osari]

Original trilogy Vader.

When you can advertise a film with a blank screen and the sound of a character's breathing you *know* you're dealing with an icon. :smallcool:
Quoted For Truth.

[Gorbash Kazdar]

So, does the great and mighty Muad'Dib not get a regognition? Unfair and judgemetnal. Classless geeks.:smalltongue:


Yeah, Paul has to be listed up there.
Muad'dib! Muad'dib! Muad'dib!

And where's Sisko? What about some Galactica representatives?

That being said, I'd probably vote for Vader even if the other suggstions were added in :smalltongue:

[Captain van der Decken]

Vader seems to be the winner.

[Xerillum]

Hey, if I put down every sci-fi character under every distant sun, it'd be way more than 25.

[Thri-Kreen_DK]

I personally do prefer Bean to Ender, Bean being far more cynical and cold. I kinda like that.
Its a great pity that Bean has to die so younge.

[Xerillum]

Yeah, but that may be from growing up in the streets of rotterdam. Just a thought. But still. Ender is being nice to the bugger queen still.

[ghost_warlock]

Personally, I'm not a big fan of any of these characters. I guess the original trilogy Vader's alright... I guess I'll vote for him. :annoyed:

Heh, I get 750 aspiration points for not seeing Boba *Fudd* listed. :cool:

The only Star Trek character I care for is Q.

I guess I like my sci-fi with either a comedy (Red Dwarf) or horror (ALIENS, Pitch Black) edge.

[Xerillum]

Yeah. Q's cool. Capitaine.

[Ian.of.Donald]

Ugh, you guys are killing me, I haven't read any of Bean's stories!!!

[Xerillum]

Well you should...

[The Vorpal Tribble]

Ugh, you guys are killing me, I haven't read any of Bean's stories!!!
Here ya go then:

Ender's Shadow (http://www.amazon.com/Enders-Shadow-Ender-Book-5/dp/0812575717/sr=1-1/qid=1162432997/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-1166686-4449436?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Shadow of the Hegemon (http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Hegemon-Ender-Book-6/dp/0812565959/sr=8-1/qid=1162432897/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-1166686-4449436?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Shadow Puppets (http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Puppets-Ender-Book-7/dp/0765340054/sr=1-2/qid=1162433030/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-1166686-4449436?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Shadows of the Giant (http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Giant-Orson-Scott-Card/dp/0312857586/sr=1-1/qid=1162433076/ref=sr_1_1/103-1166686-4449436?ie=UTF8&s=books)

And coming out sometime in the future will be 'Shadows in Flight', where the Bean series finally merges with the the last of the Ender books.

[Flabbicus]

Here ya go then:

Ender's Shadow (http://www.amazon.com/Enders-Shadow-Ender-Book-5/dp/0812575717/sr=1-1/qid=1162432997/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-1166686-4449436?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Shadow of the Hegemon (http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Hegemon-Ender-Book-6/dp/0812565959/sr=8-1/qid=1162432897/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-1166686-4449436?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Shadow Puppets (http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Puppets-Ender-Book-7/dp/0765340054/sr=1-2/qid=1162433030/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-1166686-4449436?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Shadows of the Giant (http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Giant-Orson-Scott-Card/dp/0312857586/sr=1-1/qid=1162433076/ref=sr_1_1/103-1166686-4449436?ie=UTF8&s=books)

And coming out sometime in the future will be 'Shadows in Flight', where the Bean series finally merges with the the last of the Ender books.

I have a theory for how that happened, but I forgot it already. Something having to do with

Bean's descendants settling the colony that Ender shows up at

[The Vorpal Tribble]

I have a theory for how that happened, but I forgot it already. Something having to do with

Bean's descendants settling the colony that Ender shows up at
Meh, I think the one has something to do with it, but not the others. Y'know what I mean. There is a thread devoted to my ponderings about how the two books will merge. Lemme see if I can find it...

[Flabbicus]

Yeah, I probably stole that idea from there too. :wink:

[FarseerUlthran]

I would have voted for Muad'dib if he were up there, or the Doctor for that matter, but of those listed it has to be Ender.

[Xerillum]

Looks like Darth Vader is pwning enders skinny maladjusted a**.

[Ian.of.Donald]

Looks like Darth Vader is pwning enders skinny maladjusted a**.
Pffttt..
Whatever, if Ender had the Force he would have showed young Ani the true meaning of DEATH! As it stands Ender is, like, eleventy-billion years older than anyone and a mega-genius to boot.
Ender for the fatality, game over.:smallsigh:

[Logic]

Pffttt..
Whatever, if Ender had the Force he would have showed young Ani the true meaning of DEATH! As it stands Ender is, like, eleventy-billion years older than anyone and a mega-genius to boot.
Ender for the fatality, game over.:smallsigh:

As soon as you put "Pffttt... Whatever" you have lost all credibility to make a decent argument. As such, the rest of your statements are merely fanboi remarks.

That being said, while Ender is a well developed character, Vader is more of an Icon.
I also don't think that 3 characters from Star Trek should have been on this poll (even though I love Star Trek more than any onther Sci-fi Franchise) since only 2 other franchises were represented.

[Death, your friend the Reaper]

Personally, I'm not a big fan of any of these characters. I guess the original trilogy Vader's alright... I guess I'll vote for him. :annoyed:

He only appeared for three seconds in the third movie, :smalltongue: I think it's fair to say that most people preferred him in the original trilogy...

[Sailacela]

Original trilogy Vader. When you can advertise a film with a blank screen and the sound of a character's breathing you *know* you're dealing with an icon. :smallcool:

Well put, my sentiments exactly.

Obviously not every classic/recognizable sci-fi character could be listed in the poll but I do think more diversity would have been in order. Several great suggestions already (Ripley, Paul, and The Doctor being my favs). I'd like to add to the list:

1) Yoda - yes, another SW character but definitely an icon
2) E.T. - Phone home!
3) Robbie the Robot - A goofy choice, but he was in a TON of early Sci-fi stuff and lots of people recognize him.
4) The Terminator

And much as I like Worf, how'd he make the "icons" list? He's a good character but for Star Trek I see Kirk, Picard, Spock, and Khan as more in the icons category.

[The Demented One]

I find your lack of Hiro Protagonist disturbing.

[Saithis Bladewing]

This poll is also lacking Flash Gordon, the god of scifi.

FLASH, AH! HE SAVED EVERY ONE OF US!

[The Vorpal Tribble]

Ok, I'm thinking of doing a new poll with as many options as it'll take. We have enough room for more to be added to this list below.

What do you think should be added (or perhaps taken off)? I don't know much about Babylon 5 or Firefly or anything, but I do know they were popular, so who is the 'icon' of those series?

-=-=-=-=-=-

Captain James T. Kirk
Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Dark Helmet
Darth Vader
Doctor Who
Ender Wiggin
E.T.
Flash Gordan
Flinx
Hans Solo
Hiro Yakamura
Johnny 5
Marvin the Robot
Muad'dib (Paul Atreides)
Obi-wan
President Sheridan
Q
Spock
Will Robinson
Yoda
Zaphod Beeblebrox

[Saithis Bladewing]

I'm not sure Firefly is worthy of icon status yet, not necessarily from lack of quality, but lack of exposure. Sadly, we have so few browncoats these days. Babylon 5 I don't know enough of to judge.

Oh, and you mispelled Flash Gordon. ~.^

[Lord Fullbladder, Master of Goblins]

I said Obi Wan, reffering of course to "Ol' Ben Kenobi" of the original trilogy.

Though I find the lack of Colonel Jack O'Niel disturbing.

[ghost_warlock]

Zaphod Beeblebrox
Ugh, I hate that guy... Marvin's badass, though!

What about Ripley? And Bishop?

And David Lister?

[Closet_Skeleton]

That Daneel robot from Asimov was a bit of an icon at one time as well, not that I like Asimov myself.

There's probably at least one Icon from Super Dimensional Fortress Macross or Space Battleship Yamato it would a crime to not put in. No one comes to mind at this moment though.

Zaphod might not be the most likable character in H2G2 but he's not just a Sci-Fi icon he's an icon within his own ego. Arthur Dent just is too down to earth but Marvin is probably an icon as well.

[Sundog]

None of the above. Captain/President Sheridan, Babylon 5. "Get the hell out of our galaxy!"

[the_tick_rules]

write in vote for bruce campbell. "This, is my boom stick!"

[talltwin36]

Speaker for the Dead is one of OSC's best books, as is PastWatch. Ender's Game is also a fun read.

Card is a great guy in person as well. I moderated one of his websites for 3 years and have had dinner with him several times.

Here is a link to his own website www.hatrack.com .

msquared

[Ian.of.Donald]

Ahh, here's another: Lazurus Long

[Saithis Bladewing]

Ming the Merciless? ;D

[Baltek Grimm]

Darth Vader!!!

[Chunklets]

Out of that list, I'll take Worf, but only for those episodes where they let him be unreasonably violent.

[Telonius]

You forgot two of the early icons: Klaatu from "The Day the Earth Stood Still" and Captain Nemo from "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea."

[grinner666]

Y'wanna talk about a sci-fi ICON, I vote for the Stargate!!

:tongue:

[averagejoe]

Vader has one thing over everyone, on the poll and "written in."

Presence.

[Sundog]

Vader has one thing over everyone, on the poll and "written in."

Presence.

Sheridan giving a speech. He has presence WITHOUT borrowing somebody else's voice!

[KIDS]

I would have picked Fall of Hyperion tetralogy's heroine, Aenea, but since she isn't on the list, Darth Vader pretty much fills the spot.

[Archonic Energy]

What about some more classic Sci-Fi? No Hal 9000 or the Monolith? None of the people from the Time Machine? Nor Asimov's foundation series? Or, as Lord of Narf pointed out, no Dune either. I'm dissapointed. ;(

Hari Seldon ROCKS!


Ok, I'm thinking of doing a new poll with as many options as it'll take. We have enough room for more to be added to this list below.

What do you think should be added (or perhaps taken off)? I don't know much about Babylon 5 or Firefly or anything, but I do know they were popular, so who is the 'icon' of those series?

-=-=-=-=-=-

Captain James T. Kirk
Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Dark Helmet
Darth Vader
Doctor Who
Ender Wiggin
E.T.
Flash Gordan
Flinx
Hans Solo
Hiro Yakamura
Johnny 5
Marvin the Robot paranoid Android
Muad'dib (Paul Atreides)
Obi-wan
President Sheridan
Q
Spock
Will Robinson
Yoda
Zaphod Beeblebrox

Fixed. :smallwink:
oh and Koshh for B5

[Lord of the Helms]

Arnold Rimmer.

Of these, obviously Vader.

[Saithis Bladewing]

Arnold Rimmer.

I dunno, I think Holly might be better suited. Anyone from Red Dwarf gets my vote though. Sorry Vader. *Waves bye-bye to the dark-masked sith lord.*

[twerk_face]

Ender's just a wuss that lives for way too long, so Darth Vader gets my vote.

do you have any basis for this "fact?" there is perfectly good, scienticially plausible reasoning for his prolonged existance.

[Lord of the Helms]

I dunno, I think Holly might be better suited. Anyone from Red Dwarf gets my vote though.

Trust me, I've had a hard time deciding whether it's Rimmer, Lister or Holly. All of them godly, but somehow, I feel a slight edge towards Rimmer :smallbiggrin:

Oh, and I so very much hope I'll have the money to purchase Series 5-8 soon. I've only seen a few episodes of Series 6 at a friend's, long time ago that was :smallfrown:

[Democratus]

do you have any basis for this "fact?" there is perfectly good, scienticially plausible reasoning for his prolonged existance.

Yes there is. It's what the author wrote.

As for the vote...no Mal, no vote from me.

[Flabbicus]

do you have any basis for this "fact?" there is perfectly good, scienticially plausible reasoning for his prolonged existance.

That's not really science though. It's scientific hooh-ha that Orson Scott Card made, concise as it is, its not real.

And almost everyone I know is in agreement about the Ender Saga books, you should read the first one, but only read the others if you are prepared to get confused or lost.

[Saithis Bladewing]

Trust me, I've had a hard time deciding whether it's Rimmer, Lister or Holly. All of them godly, but somehow, I feel a slight edge towards Rimmer :smallbiggrin:

Oh, and I so very much hope I'll have the money to purchase Series 5-8 soon. I've only seen a few episodes of Series 6 at a friend's, long time ago that was :smallfrown:

Personally I felt every season after 2 was progressively worse. I could stand 3, but I hated 4 and onwards. Seasons 1 and 2 FTW!

Anyway, I can't really decide on them either. I want to vote on all 3. They're all so brilliant...

[The Vanishing Hitchhiker]

Zaphod Beeblebrox

Surely you mean Ford Prefect.


I am a bit surprised The Doctor isn't up there as well.

Didn't his series run long enough for you?

Q. F. T. And really, what's a sixteen year hiatus between friends? Even gave us a movie in the middle to tide us over.

[Hexa_Regina]

Yay, other people who have actually heard of Ender and Bean! I'm not the only one after all!

[The Vanishing Hitchhiker]

Yay, other people who have actually heard of Ender and Bean! I'm not the only one after all!

I'll say. From the way my husband talks, Ender's Game (and its various sequels) is the only book he's ever read.

...on the other hand, from the way I talk, you'd think The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (and the other four books in the trilogy, and the Dirk Gently books, plus everything else Douglas Adams has written) is the only book I've ever read. So meh.


Anyway, enough whining about Ford and the Doctor, I'll toss in my vote for Spock. You Ender/Vader fanbois don't see what's what, I see. :smallwink: Don't mind Obi-Wan though. Happy to share the spotlight with Obi-Wan.

[SpoonlessJedi]

...on the other hand, from the way I talk, you'd think The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ... (plus everything else Douglas Adams has written) is the only book I've ever read. So meh.

Even if you had never read anything else, you'd be just fine. No one can fault you for following the gospel of Adams.




Anyway, enough whining about Ford and the Doctor, I'll toss in my vote for Spock.

Even the mind of a Vulcan is nothing compared to Data's positronic brain. And if anyone says Data wasn't a big enough character to be an icon, they can kiss my cardboard cutout.

[Xerillum]

Cardboard...cutout...?... no comment.........*shudders*

[TinSoldier]

Honor Harrington.

[Crazy Owl]

Voted for Vader but if the Doctor was up there he would have got my vote.

[Warlord]

'm glad nobody voted for Kevin Sorbo in Hercules! :P

Seriously though, it appears that there are so many famous and well-loved characters that it's hard to get a broad enough spectrum for the polls.

For me, I'm pretty surprised nobody even mentioned Palpatine. Especially Return of the Jedi Palpatine! He had one super phrase that I have never forgotten in the twenty-odd years since I'd seen it - he had this really nasty and sarcastic ass-raping grin on his face as he told Luke, "And now young Jedi, you will die." Man, I laughed so hard when I saw it!

Evil, sly, quick-witted and humorous. Those are the ingredients to a great villain!

[Flak_Razorwill]

Ooh, for me, it's a close one between Obi-Wan and Spock. They're both wise, logical, and usually correct. They both have mind powers and are nigh-incorruptable.

For epic moments, Obi-Wan died fighting Vader. For just persevering, Spock narrated Civilization IV.

[Talon_McScruffles]

'm glad nobody voted for Kevin Sorbo in Hercules! :P


But...but...Kevin Sorbo...:smallfrown:

Obiwan, hands down. And I'm not talkin' 'bout the new one. I speak of Allec Guiness (hope that's how you spell it). If ever there was a Jedi, surely it was he.

But this poll could use a couple more options. Like Ripley from the Aliens quadrilogy (no way in hell am I including AVP), or Dr. Who.

[Emperor Tippy]

Why aren't some Stargate characters on that list?

I voted for Vader because I don't like Ender after Enders Game. I personally prefer Bean and even Peter (the later version, not the mean nasty child).

[Seraph]

the lack of Doctor angers me, so Kirk gets the vote on account of inventing the double-handed bitchslap.

[Dire Penguin]

YUCK! D-Vader is getting all your votes? sure he was the famour villan from the origonals, but I like to stick with Trek...and besides, Worf makes me laugh! (not as much as data though...)

[TinSoldier]

YUCK! D-Vader is getting all your votes? sure he was the famour villan from the origonals, but I like to stick with Trek...and besides, Worf makes me laugh! (not as much as data though...)That reminds me...

:furious: "I am not a merrry man!"

Edit: I finally broke down and voted... for Spock. Of the limited list of choices given he is my favorite.

[Evil_Pacifist]

Well, I'd say

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Wookie1.jpg/220px-Wookie1.jpg,

but he wasn't up there so I'll go with

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3b/Vadertantive.jpg/175px-Vadertantive.jpg.

Although Grig,

http://www.patentlessons.com/grig%20starfighter.jpg,

is cool too, though not exactly an icon. He's mostly a "so sucky that he's awesome" character.

[Zweee]

I would have voted for the Doctor but he isn't there. So I guess Obi-wan will do. After all he kicks a lot of Sith butt.

[Dane_Bramage]

Ender... hands down. Not only is he THE military genius, but he's compassionate at the same time. A deeply complex and brooding character that the others in the list can't even touch.

[pestilenceawaits]

Vader definitely gets my vote. Best Sci-fi/ fantasy/ film villain ever.
and to chime in on the Ender books the first one is good the rest get tiresome and preachy I felt my brain trying to escape my body just so it wouldn't have to suffer through them anymore. I liked Cards Alvin maker series also but it suffered from the same problem the longer the series got the more tiresome the books were.

[Goose]

I would have voted for the doctor. As corny as that show is, he still rocks. Vader is cool, but obi-wan kicked his butt...well sort of...the first time he did at least

[The Vanishing Hitchhiker]

Okay, that's it. Enough people have said they would vote for the Doctor that I think it's high time for a new poll.

And throw in Teal'c. Daniel's the cute one, sure, but I've always liked Teal'c. Not that I'd vote for him - I'll be voting for the Doctor. You did put him in this time, right?

I'd do it myself, but I'm slinking off for a snack. Although that does give me an idea for another topic...

Now, to give you people some controversy to discuss while I'm away (nothing sadder than coming back to a thread to find nothing going on): Ender is not an icon. Yeah I said it.