Builds, Builds, Wonderful Builds: Part II

[BelGareth]

Ok, so the first thread died out about 7 months ago but got necro'ed recently.

So here is a new thread (with new thread smell!) for those who want to keep it going (and well, me)

Post your awesome builds here, builds that break the world, that have awesome synergy or just to show off your Min Max, OP'ness.

Table o'Amazin Builds
{table=head]Name|Description|Submitter
The Bomb (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13140371&postcount=4)|Regeneration + low health + Final strike to blow up when hit|Dr.Orpheus
baddonkey dude (or chick) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13140401&postcount=5)|Proverbial Warblade|danzibr
Multiheaded DFA (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13140617&postcount=7)|deal 160d6 on breath attacks|Igneel
Combat Skill Monkey (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13140619&postcount=8)|Iaijutsu Focus Factotum Swordsage|Bloodgruve
Equipment man (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13140691&postcount=9)|Be the fighters enchanted shield and weapon|Dr.Orpheus
Cheese caster (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13141101&postcount=11)|Cast everything DMM'd|Randomguy
Sneak Bomber (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13141265&postcount=13)|Pathfinder Pyro Gnome|Tokuhara
Pouncing Knight Eidolon (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13141860&postcount=15)|Pathfinder Synthesist Summoner 16/Cavalier 4|doko239
DragonBall Zel (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13142191&postcount=17)|Elan Egoist|Do everything, and a few things broken|Cor1
Freaky reach Chain AoO fighter (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13142874&postcount=19)|As the name says|Dumbledore lives
Snow8luff's Supermount (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13142934&postcount=21)|Create a lvl 39 Golden Dragon Wyrmling Mount|Snowbluff
Lazy Lob (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8441606&postcount=106)|Trap door were-spider dungeoncrasher|123456789blaaa
Yuan Ti Celebrant (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9111589&postcount=106)|Yuan Ti Pureblood Bard 2/Snakelord 10/ Soul Eater 1/ Cloaked Dancer 3; Medium monstrous humanoid (Psionic)|123456789blaaa
Dawn and Dusk (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9942753&postcount=197)|Dvati Shadow-Walker Monk/warblade/assassin|123456789blaaa
Nasty Suel (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13144550&postcount=32)|Ranger 2/Duskblade 3/Warblade 2/Suel Arcanamach 6/Impure Prince 5/Jade Phoenix Mage 2|Amphetryon
Not Enough 8lades (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13144559&postcount=33)|Ranger 2/Warblade 3/Revenant blade 5/Eternal blade 10|Snowbluff
Ranger McSwift (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13144845&postcount=37)|Wildshape Mystic Ranger11/Swiftblade9|Snowbluff
Salad Bar Monk (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13151578&postcount=44)|Warforged Monk 2/ Druid 3/ Lanforged Walker 5/ Sacred Fist 10 (text trumps table)|gorfnab
Hellfire Ur-Lock (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13151578&postcount=44)|Warlock 4/ Binder 1/ Ur-Priest 2/ Eldritch Disciple 2/ Hellfire Warlock 3/ Eldritch Disicple 8|gorfnab
Sacrilegious Fist (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13151578&postcount=44)|Duskblade 3/ Monk 2/ Ur-Priest 2/ Sacred Fist 10/ Enlightened Fist 3|gorfnab
Ruby Knight Win-dicat-Ur (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13151578&postcount=44)|Human Paragon 1/ Crusader 4/ Ur-Priest 2/ Ruby Knight Vindicator 10/ Crusader 3|gorfnab
Divine Crusader of the Sovereign Host (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13151578&postcount=44)|Crusader 7/ Divine Crusader 3/ Sovereign Speaker 9/ Crusader, Ordained Champion, or X full BAB 1|gorfnab
Mailman, et Brokenus (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13152187&postcount=51)|Sorc2/MetaphysicalSpellshaper3/Incantatrix10|Snowbluff
Skill Monkey (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13153811&postcount=52)|Human, Rogue 3/Bard 2/Trapsmith 2/Earth Dreamer 3/Sublime Chord 2/Earth Dreamer +2/Unseen Seer 6|Piggy Knowles
shadowpouncer (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13153811&postcount=52)|Azurin, Rogue 1/Totemist 2/Cobra Strike Monk 2/Umbral Disciple 3/Telflammar Shadowlord 4/Swiftblade 8|Piggy Knowles
?? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13153811&postcount=52)|Warforged, Cloistered Cleric 5/Landforged Walker 5/Earth Dreamer 5/Paragnostic Apostle 5|Piggy Knowles
Dr. Banner and Mr. Hulk (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13155250&postcount=54)|Factotum 2/Stoneblessed 3/Spirit Lion Totem Wolf Totem Goliath Barbarian 2/Factotum +1/Fighter 1/Frenzied Berzerker X|Morph Bark
Pious Bear of the Deep Forest (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13155594&postcount=55)|Wild Shape Trapfinding Ranger 1 / Spirit Lion Totem Barbarian 2 / Monk 2 / Fist of the Forest 2 / Deepwarden 2 / Pious Templar 1 / Bear Warrior 10|Kaje
Thriller (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13157949&postcount=63)|Necropolitan Human Bard X/Warblade X/Something|Battleship789
Mistress o' Slap (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13159530&postcount=69)|Mantled Warrior Psychic Warrior/Slayer|Snowbluff
Sorcadin Gish (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13160388&postcount=80)|Paladin 2/ Sorcerer 4/Spellsword 1/Abj Champ 5/ Sacred Exorcist 8|Essence_of_War
This Thri-Keen hurts people (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13161332&postcount=82)|Thri-Keen Duskblade13/MonstrousHumanoid2|Snowbluff
This Thri-Keen is Educated (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13161332&postcount=82)|Thri-Keen Factotum8/Iaijutsu Master5/MonstrousHumanoid2/ShadowDancer1?|Snowbluff
The Carebear (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13164950&postcount=83)|VoP Eldritch Disciple|Soranar
The Eldritch Assassin (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13164950&postcount=83)|Eldritch assassin....|Soranar
Fistbeard Beardfist (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14452106&postcount=85)|Ranger 2 / Monk 2 / Ranger 1 / Deepwarden 2 / Fist of the Forest 3 / Kensai 10|Juntao112
Black Jack Wellesley (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14452106&postcount=85)|Bard 9 / Marshal 1 / Dread Pirate 10|Juntao112
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Link to 1st Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241193)

Edit:

My take on the Lock down build -

Classes:
Battle Sorcerer 2/Knight 3/Crusader 3/Abjurant champion 5/Jade Phoenix Mage 7

Feats:
Combat Reflexes, Evasive Reflexes, Arcane Strike, Defensive Sweep, Robilars Gambit

Stance:
Thicket of blades

MO:
Enlarge person yourself (for reach), utilize Thicket of blades, Defensive Sweep, Bulwark of defense and evasive reflexes to force AoO's on everyone around you.

IL: 15
CL: 12 (for spells); 19 for caster level (via Abj Champ BAB = CL)
BAB: 19

Alternatively, you could go Cleric, get Divine might and Law Devotion, grab Ordained Champ and take RKV instead of JPM.

[Snowbluff]

Vicious Warlock/Mr. Teatime

"I don't have many Friends, but I also don't have any enemies."

-Mr. Teatime. I am paraphrasing. :smalltongue:

Marrulurk Monstrous Humanoid3/Warlock2/EscalationMage5/HFLock3/

Feats of Note: Staggering Strike, Craven, Empower/Maximize Spell-like Ability, Imperious Command, Practiced Spellcaster (according to Richard Baker's suggesion, progress Warlock EB and CL).

If you want, soulmeld something that gives bonuses to Intimidiate.

Marrulurk has sneak attack and a Cha-based Death Attack. Since Intimidating makes enemies see you as friendly, you can debatably study them for Death Attack while you have them intimidate. Then, stick them with a little dagger (Bonus points for actually using hideous blow?). In combat, use a standard action to demoralize a for, which willl deny their dex to AC, then Quicken (Escalation Mage) an Eldritch Blast or Hideous Blow for the Sneak Attack.

Handle the Con Damage from HFlock at your own discretion. Strongheart is the best way to do this if your DM isn't a jerk and will allow it.

[Morcleon]

Oh hey, we we just talking about this thread a short time ago. :smallsmile: Also, is it even possible to actually stalk people anymore, what with the 'find post made by user' deactivated? :smalltongue:
Anyway, here's a build:

(name required)

Class: Erudite 19 w/ StP

Required Feats (parentheses indicate recommended but not required):
Extend Power
Persist Power

Required Powers:
Contigency (StP)
Temporal Acceleration

Tactics:
Manifest StP Contingency for Persistent Temporal Acceleration, with the conditions being something along the lines of "whenever something I would consider bad is about to happen to me". Then, when this triggers, you have 24 hours to move out of the way/range, rest, heal, and rebuff. Don't forget to reapply this contigency.

Notes:
This can be done at level 14 with a Ring of Arcane Might (+1 ML), the Orange Prism Ioun Stone (+1), the Torc of Power Preservation (+1), and the Overchannel feat (+2), combined allowing you to spend 18 PP on one power, which, with the Torc, gives you the effective 19 PP required for Persistent Temporal Acceleration.

[Tokuhara]

Just Say No



Race: Arctic Earth Dwarf
Class: Crusader of Valkauna 1/Incarnate 4/Ironsoul Forgemaster 10/Witch Slayer 2/Enforcer Paladin of Valkauna 3
Flaws: Shaky, Murky-Eyed
Feats:
1- Two-Weapon Fighting, Stone Power [Flaw], Cobalt Power [Flaw]
3- Devoted Bulwark
6- Shape Soulmeld (Bluesteel Bracers)
9- Heavy Armor Optimization
12- Double Chakra (Crown)
15- Shards of Granite
18- Greater Heavy Armor Optimization

Soulmelds:

Crown - Diadem of Purelight & Crystal Helm
Shoulders- Pauldrons of Health
Arms - Bluesteel Bracers
Throat - Planar Ward
Waist - Wormtail Belt

Stance: Martial Spirit (for some effective fast healing)

Maneuvers: Minotaur's Charge, Stone Bones (both required for Shards of Granite), Leading The Charge, Douse the Flames (utility for letting party members shift around more easily), and either Vanguard Strike or Leading the Attack, since they both do the same thing.

Recommended Gear (Note, you as a PC must make the armor, weapon, and shield):

Adamantine Fullplate
Adamantine Heavy Spiked Shield of Bashing
Any 1-handed weapon of your choice (I prefer Warhammer here for more Dwarf-y-ness) with Stone Dragon on it

The idea is to wade into combat, soulmelds on and anti-everything shield up, and just say no to Blasters, Save or Die/Suck, Some damage, and horrible after-effects of dealing with monsters (energy drain, disease, poison). With rediculous saves, mettle, damage reduction, and lots of other goodies, all you have to do is look at the enemies who want to turn you face into goo and Just. Say.

NO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v79edUcUsB0)

[Snowbluff]

NO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ays5DP1m1JQ)

Fixed that for you. :smallsmile:

[Morcleon]

Fixed that for you. :smallsmile:

...why am I not surprised...? :smallsigh::smalltongue: Rhetorical, Snow, rhetorical! And it's not like you're going to listen to me, are you...? :smalltongue:

[Snowbluff]

...why am I not surprised...? :smallsigh::smalltongue:
Fine then, I'll just acknowledge you. :smallmad: I had a reason and everything.

Ultimate Changeling

Divine Minion (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20050209a) Changeling Rogue1/MMoF10/Chameleon2+

Transform into something. Does it have Ex Abilities? You have them? Su abilities? Floating Chameleon Feat can be used for Assume Su. Can it cast? Pretend you can with Chameleon Spells. Was it a fighter? Well... I guess you COULD do the melee mimic Chameleon thing, Feats are Ex, or Cast Heroics.

Pretend to be just about anybody! The level of Rogue can be easily replaced by 2 levels of Totemist or Incarnate (Soulmelds), Monk, Battle Dance, Sword Sage(Stat to AC), Paladin (Cha to all saves), etc.

Plus, you are just really good at fighting.

[Morcleon]

Fine then, I'll just acknowledge you. :smallmad: I had a reason and everything..

Okay, now I'm curious. Do tell of this reason... :smallsmile:

[Snowbluff]

Okay, now I'm curious. Do tell of this reason... :smallsmile:

The other no was really... bad. It was just awful. I've heard better nos out of a whiny 2 year old.

[Morcleon]

The other no was really... bad. It was just awful. I've heard better nos out of a whiny 2 year old.

*watches* ...I would agree fully with that sentiment. If one is to say no, it must done properly! :smallbiggrin:

[Snowbluff]

My Little Pulverizer

Marrulurk MonstrouHumanoid3/Ranger2/Fighter2/Disciple of Dispater 8

A little scimitar fighter. Uses Telling Blow to land a Staggering Strike.

Assuming an Aptitude Weapon (Crits give more attacks):
Flaw: Power Attack
Flaw: Combat Expertise
1: Telling Blow
3: Combat Reflexes
6: Staggering Strike
9: Improved Critical
12: Lightning Maces
15: Roundabout Kick
Ranger2: TWF
Fighter2: Weapon Focus: Light Mace
Fighter1: Improved Unarmed Strike
Crap forgot Disciple of Darkness. I think you get the idea. Roundabout Kick and Lightmaces give more attacks when you crit with your weapon.

No such Luck (MonstrousHumanoid3/LionTotemBarbarian1/Fighter2/Disciple of Dispater8):
Flaw: Power Attack
Flaw: Combat Expertise
1: Telling Blow
3: Disciple of Darkness
6: Staggering Strike
9: Improved
12: Staggering Critical
Fighter1: Improved Bull Rush
Fighter2: Shock Trooper

Pretty much an charger with a focus on disabling the opponent through dirty tricks rather than instantly killing them. Level 15 and 18 should probably be Craven and Leap Attack

[Venger]

Ultimate Changeling

Divine Minion (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20050209a) Changeling Rogue1/MMoF10/Chameleon2+


excellent use of the divine minion template.

however, since it requires alertness and endurance, you can only enter at 2 assuming at least 1 flaw.

very much like the aesthetic and idea of the ultimate changeling. an alternative proposition (assuming flaws aren't allowed)

divine minion (some +1 LA god) changeling rogue 1/totemist 2/momf 10/chameleon 2/deepwarden 2/xx2 (probably chameleon 2, though uncanny trickster 2 to progress momf's wild shape HD cap would be sneaky if you had enough skill tricks)

take alertness and endurance at 1 and 3, take racial emulation at some point before 13 (probably at 12) to be able to get into deepwarden.

why deepwarden?

it lets you add your con to your AC instead of your dex! when you're wild shaped into some horrifying tank (all the time) then you'll have a stupid high AC. 2 lvls to spare as well. not too shabby

[Snowbluff]

excellent use of the divine minion template.

however, since it requires alertness and endurance, you can only enter at 2 assuming at least 1 flaw.

very much like the aesthetic and idea of the ultimate changeling. an alternative proposition (assuming flaws aren't allowed)

divine minion (some +1 LA god) changeling rogue 1/totemist 2/momf 10/chameleon 2/deepwarden 2/xx2 (probably chameleon 2, though uncanny trickster 2 to progress momf's wild shape HD cap would be sneaky if you had enough skill tricks)

take alertness and endurance at 1 and 3, take racial emulation at some point before 13 (probably at 12) to be able to get into deepwarden.

why deepwarden?

it lets you add your con to your AC instead of your dex! when you're wild shaped into some horrifying tank (all the time) then you'll have a stupid high AC. 2 lvls to spare as well. not too shabby

You can't be a Chameleon unless you are a Human or Changeling. Even if you use Racial Emulation, that will prevent you from disguising yourself as anything other than a dwarf. Not all forms you will disguise yourself a will have good Constitution, anyway.

If you are going Dwarf, you might be better off as a Master of Masks.

Better yet, be a fist of the forest. It doesn't fit fluffwise so well (The Ultimate Changeling is a city-slicker), but she is a wildshaper so FoF is not out of the question. Imp Unarmed Strike and Power Attack Are not bad Feat taxes for a Natural Fighter, anyway.

Your Wildshape Level is 11+MoMF. I don't think you need to boost it much higher, and in epic you can us an Epic Progression of MoMF.

[Morcleon]

Fist of the Forest also requires Great Fortitude, which is bad. But the class is good for a dip, so it might be worth it.

I've got a soulbow build coming up, but it'll take a while to type on my iPod, so it may not be out until later today.

[Snowbluff]

Fist of the Forest also requires Great Fortitude, which is bad. But the class is good for a dip, so it might be worth it.

I've got a soulbow build coming up, but it'll take a while to type on my iPod, so it may not be out until later today.

Meh, feat tax is feat tax. I'll take it if I must. Either way, it's worth not being a dwarf.

[Venger]

Fist of the Forest also requires Great Fortitude, which is bad. But the class is good for a dip, so it might be worth it.

I've got a soulbow build coming up, but it'll take a while to type on my iPod, so it may not be out until later today.

it also requires power attack and IUS, making it really hard to qualify for without overwhelming attack monk.


You can't be a Chameleon unless you are a Human or Changeling. Even if you use Racial Emulation, that will prevent you from disguising yourself as anything other than a dwarf. Not all forms you will disguise yourself a will have good Constitution, anyway.

If you are going Dwarf, you might be better off as a Master of Masks.

Better yet, be a fist of the forest. It doesn't fit fluffwise so well (The Ultimate Changeling is a city-slicker), but she is a wildshaper so FoF is not out of the question. Imp Unarmed Strike and Power Attack Are not bad Feat taxes for a Natural Fighter, anyway.

Your Wildshape Level is 11+MoMF. I don't think you need to boost it much higher, and in epic you can us an Epic Progression of MoMF.

right on all counts. I just liked your idea and wanted to find a way to make it fit together.

deepwarden is just such a natural complement to momf, I felt it would be fitting here.

if disguise is important to the theme, had you considered spymaster? feat tax of SF bluff, but does provide deep cover, which is highly coveted in-game.

[Snowbluff]

it also requires power attack and IUS, making it really hard to qualify for without overwhelming attack monk.

Yeah, but those are good feats. Power Attack is Power Attack, and you can use Improved Unarmed Strike to make Iterative Attacks while fighting with natural weapons. I'll admit it ties up all of the feats MoMF and Chameleon did not, though.


deepwarden is just such a natural complement to momf, I felt it would be fitting here.

if disguise is important to the theme, had you considered spymaster? feat tax of SF bluff, but does provide deep cover, which is highly coveted in-game.

FoF, dude. If you don't like the Feat tax on FoF, be a Human.

Spymaster is not a good idea. Chameleon's casting and/or the Persona Immersion feat will get the same job done without sacrificing class level. Plus, you can pretend to be entire people, you don't need a secret identity.

[Venger]

Yeah, but those are good feats. Power Attack is Power Attack, and you can use Improved Unarmed Strike to make Iterative Attacks while fighting with natural weapons. I'll admit it ties up all of the feats MoMF and Chameleon did not, though.

yeah, that's all I meant. not that the tax is bad exactly, just that it takes up a lot of your feats in total.



Spymaster is not a good idea. Chameleon's casting and/or the Persona Immersion feat will get the same job done without sacrificing class level. Plus, you can pretend to be entire people, you don't need a secret identity.

once more, ultimate changeling confounds me. it was partially to fill up the levels left blank. changelings have sort of a natural affinity with spymaster, but yeah, PI does the same thing.

[Snowbluff]

once more, ultimate changeling confounds me. it was partially to fill up the levels left blank. changelings have sort of a natural affinity with spymaster, but yeah, PI does the same thing.

The Chameleon2 does complete the build, but I pult a little "+" to note that you keep leveling with that. :smalltongue:

[Tokuhara]

For an Ultimate Changeling, I usually like a few levels in Cabinet Trickster. Good utility abilities and an upgrade to Alter Self.

[Snowbluff]

For an Ultimate Changeling, I usually like a few levels in Cabinet Trickster. Good utility abilities and an upgrade to Alter Self.

I've already considered it.

Detect Thoughts: What's this? I can already do this with chameleon spells.

Doppelganger Insights: I actually like this, but I prefer things like Glibness or Divine Insight.

Thought Tricks: These are pretty sweet, bu the DCs are low, and I ultimate give up the ability to get 6th level spells for these.

Change Shape: It's kind of like a nerfed version of my ability to wildshape into humanoids... it's nice for shifting into specific people (usually fighters or other EX heavy classes), but is it worth the class levels? If you think so, Rogue1/MoMF7/Chameleon7/CabinestTrickster5