[PF+3.5] Angels converting Devils

[Darius Kane]

What methods could Angels use to convert Devils to Good (or at least away from Evil)?
Crunchy ways are okay (but no cheese), but I'm more interested in fluffy ways.

[Acanous]

well, there's a level 9 spell for that, Sanctify the Wicked. Takes a year.

Alternately, a Helm of Opposite Alignment, or you can try Diplomacy checks.

[Taveena]

Well, you could focus on the ones that are less focused with the downfall of Good and more their own survival. Show them the benefits of playing both sides of the field as Neutral and gaining allies from both ends of the spectrum. It's selfish, but it opens up the possibility of more development later on.

[The Viscount]

Emissary of Barachiel (BoED) has the ability to convert creatures to good. It's a rather long process, and can be fluffed in several ways.

[Fates]

Alternately, a Helm of Opposite Alignment, or you can try Diplomacy checks.

Helm of opposite alignment doesn't work on creatures with alignment subtypes, I seem to recall.

[Alleran]

Helm of opposite alignment doesn't work on creatures with alignment subtypes, I seem to recall.
I just checked the Helm in the SRD and PFSRD - there seem to be no subtype rules that I can spot.

One option for forcibly converting a fiend is to mindrape them. Don't just do a crude re-write, however. Make sure you subtly implant new memories, desires and compulsions. Then, just for good measure, you can rip out one alignment subtype and put in another via Savage Species (if you're allowed to carry that over to 3.5e). The ritual of alignment won't change the alignment outright, but it'll help keep them there once they have changed.

[Darius Kane]

That's not something Angels would do.

[Pandiano]

That's not something Angels would do.

Oh that definitely is!
Lawful good is not rarely lawful nice.

[Runestar]

well, there's a level 9 spell for that, Sanctify the Wicked. Takes a year.

Alternately, a Helm of Opposite Alignment, or you can try Diplomacy checks.

Heh, reminds me, there was a novel where the bulk of it was basically this alu-fiend's experience with sanctify the wicked. :smalltongue:

[Arcanist]

Oh that definitely is!
Lawful good is not rarely lawful nice.

It's a spell with the evil descriptor... I'm pretty sure there is something wrong with a creature with a good subtype casting an evil spell :smalltongue:

I'm sure there is something in the BoED that helps with this sort of thing. Diplomacy is a hell of a skill :smalltongue:

[Grollub]

Heh, reminds me, there was a novel where the bulk of it was basically this alu-fiend's experience with sanctify the wicked. :smalltongue:

Which novel?

[Runestar]

Which novel?

Ah, found it at last. :smallbiggrin:

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/The_Gossamer_Plain

[Yuki Akuma]

It's a spell with the evil descriptor... I'm pretty sure there is something wrong with a creature with a good subtype casting an evil spell :smalltongue:

Programmed Amnesia, then.

It's essentially the same spell, except not [Evil].