How to fight a high level dracolich?

[silverwolfer]

So me and another person, we are accesss to 9th level cleric spells and high level artificer magic, with a small army of followers some of them reaching into level 10 while our leaders are around level 18 to 20.


The dracolich we have to fight...we assume is on par or higher then us, and am wondering, what sort of methods do you think should be done to fight said creature, and to help "defang" it with prepared actions and spells to fight off it's own undead army and eventually kill it to the point that we have to worry about finding the jars it lives in.

[ShadowFireLance]

you loose.
:smallcool:

Okay.
Simple, Really, Really, easy, Find one in your party that is LG, Then ask him to Contact Bahumet, And to Give you a Gold/Silver Great Wyrm Dragon Helper...That is really all you need.
Othewise, Go with a Wish Removal.

[silverwolfer]

Is that a spell or just planar ally begging?

[JeminiZero]

You have cleric spells you say. Look up Sacred Item, (the link in my sig about saving a city) if you don't mind a large serving of cheese.

[Morcleon]

Sunburst should help against the minions. (CL)d6 should deal with most minions within a few bursts.

As for the dracolich, ray of enfeeblement/clumsiness should help debuff it, as well as touch of idiocy. Then use spark of life (http://dndtools.eu/spells/libris-mortis-the-book-of-the-dead--71/spark-of-life--1498/), and then (maximized) shivering touch. :smallwink:

[silverwolfer]

So if reading that right, 10d4 damage when the user deceides to, and shakens the undead?

[The Glyphstone]

A dracolich is just a wizard with built-in melee capacity and immunities baked in to its body instead of needing buffs. So the strategies one uses for beating a powerful wizard should apply.

[JeminiZero]

So if reading that right, 10d4 damage when the user deceides to, and shakens the undead?
Assuming you are asking about Sacred Item:
-The exact damage depends on Caster level. You have followers, if any of them are level 7 or higher clerics/archivists, they can constribute to the Sacred Item stockpile, in which case the daamge will be lower than 10d4 (it is 7d4 minimum)
-It is not when the caster "wills" it, but rather when the undead touches the object. Hence you either need to trap things that the undead will touch on its own volition (e.g. armor of yourselves/followers, appropropriate objects in the environment), or you need to cast it on items that you intend to throw/drop on the undead (ranged weapon ammunition, pebbles in a bag of holding to be inverted on top of the Dracolich).

[silverwolfer]

Hmm that relies alot on the level 10's being able to hit the dragon

[JeminiZero]

Normally, the dragons ridiculous natural armor would make it difficult for anything around ECL 10 to land a normal hit, but the sacred item takes effect so long as it touches the dragon (even if it hits toughened scale), and should arguably be fired as a touch attack instead, which ignores natural armor.

Also, you can stockpile sacred items. The duration is permanent until discharged, not unlike explosive runes. (In this regard, Sacred Item is like Explosive Runes except only effective against Evil outsiders/undead with no risk of friendly fire, and is triggered by touch) Once you exceed some really large amount, you don't even need to try and shoot at the Dragon anymore. Just fill a bag of holding with hundreds of Sacred Item pebbles, fly over the dragon and invert the bag. All the pebbles fall out and shower the dragon, and each one that touches does 7d4+ damage. Even if just 10% hit the Huge creature, Thats pretty much insta-kill.

[Invader]

Sunburst should help against the minions. (CL)d6 should deal with most minions within a few bursts.

As for the dracolich, ray of enfeeblement/clumsiness should help debuff it, as well as touch of idiocy. Then use spark of life (http://dndtools.eu/spells/libris-mortis-the-book-of-the-dead--71/spark-of-life--1498/), and then (maximized) shivering touch. :smallwink:

I would assume they have undead immunities and ability drain won't work.

[qcbtnsrm]

I would assume they have undead immunities and ability drain won't work.
Presumably that is what the Touch of Life is for:

For the duration of the spell, the undead creature is subject to extra damage from critical hits (and thus sneak attacks), nonlethal damage, ability drain, energy drain, fatigue, exhaustion, and damage to its physical ability scores (though it still lacks a Constitution score and thus can't take Constitution damage) as if it were alive.

[silverwolfer]

Also consider though, how high a bloody will save a dracolich would have

[Chilingsworth]

You have cleric spells you say. Look up Sacred Item, (the link in my sig about saving a city) if you don't mind a large serving of cheese.

Sorry to change topic, but is there an evil version of that spell?

Sorry, found my copy of complete champion and looked it up. Sure enough, there is.

[Runestar]

Dracoliches have never struck me as being worth it for its cr. You take away one of the dragon's most powerful assets (its immense hp) because it loses its con score. At that lv, immunity to paralysis is practically a given (freedom of movement), or can at least be obtained or said status negated at a moment's notice.

It does gain a load of immunities, but these can be readily replicated via spells/eq anyways. Basically, just pile damage on it. Unless the DM fiats it with unholy toughness (cha for bonus hp in place of con), it should fold in 1-2 rounds.