Landlord Feat Question

[Milo v3]

How does the Landlord Feat work?
I know it grants money that can only be used on strongholds, but it also says:

In addition, the feat provides matching funds for
expenditures made from your own purse of gold. For
example, if you spend 50,000 gp of your own (beyond
the allowance) to purchase stronghold components,
walls, or wondrous architecture, the feat provides a
bonus allowance of the same amount.

Doesn't that mean that if you ever spend any amount of money after you've spent the base allowance, you immediately regain the money?

[toapat]

Landlord will match Funds contributed into the construction of a Stronghold of upto the total in the first column

the fact that you get 1.5 million to invest in a battlecruiser at lvl 20 is quite nice, as it lets you build a spelljammer that has multiple +10 trebuchets and +5 Hull of <something that fixes hulls slowly>, and rigging of +20 to Profession Sailor and Profession Siege Engineer checks.

[Morcleon]

In addition, the feat provides matching funds for
expenditures made from your own purse of gold. For
example, if you spend 50,000 gp of your own (beyond
the allowance) to purchase stronghold components,
walls, or wondrous architecture, the feat provides a
bonus allowance of the same amount.

I would read this part as: You spend x amount of your WBL on your stronghold. Your feat turns this x into 2x of allowance for stronghold building.

[The Glyphstone]

Landlord will match Funds contributed into the construction of a Stronghold of upto the total in the first column

the fact that you get 1.5 million to invest in a battlecruiser at lvl 20 is quite nice, as it lets you build a spelljammer that has multiple +10 trebuchets and +5 Hull of <something that fixes hulls slowly>, and rigging of +20 to Profession Sailor and Profession Siege Engineer checks.

Eh? Landlord only gives you 800,000 at level 20 by itself. You'd have to invest 350,000 GP of your own personal WBL to get a matching 350K and have 1.5million total.

[toapat]

Eh? Landlord only gives you 800,000 at level 20 by itself. You'd have to invest 350,000 GP of your own personal WBL to get a matching 350K and have 1.5million total.

you would think, but it is worded in a very complex way, that 800k is only if you invest 800k in a Spelljammer.

[Kelb_Panthera]

Can someone (not toapat) post the benefits section of the feat? It should be cool as long as you omit the requirements and fluff that go with it.

[Morcleon]

Can someone (not toapat) post the benefits section of the feat? It should be cool as long as you omit the requirements and fluff that go with it.
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[The Glyphstone]

you would think, but it is worded in a very complex way, that 800k is only if you invest 800k in a Spelljammer.

There's no real ambiguity in the feat. At the given level on the chart, you have the total cash listed for that character level to invest in a stronghold. If you're getting more money from somewhere else, it's more, or finding some way to get discounts on your purchases - but Landlord the feat very clearly only gives you 800,000 GP at Level 20, not 1.5 million.

[toapat]

There's no real ambiguity in the feat. At the given level on the chart, you have the total cash listed for that character level to invest in a stronghold. If you're getting more money from somewhere else, it's more, or finding some way to get discounts on your purchases - but Landlord the feat very clearly only gives you 800,000 GP at Level 20, not 1.5 million.

i was counting with your 760kgp wbl

[UnjustCustos]

Forget spelljammer, give me a TARDIS. Small nigh-indestructible building with lots and lots of Enveloping Pits.

[The Glyphstone]

i was counting with your 760kgp wbl

Oh.

Even then it's not accurate, because if you invested all your 760,000, the feat would match that and you'd have a total of 2.32 million. But that's not a realistic case, because there's no way a character would survive to level 20 without spending any of their allotted WBL.

[Jack_Simth]

i was counting with your 760kgp wbl

If you dump *all* of that into your stronghold, then you're looking at 800,000+2*760,000=2,320,000 gp total.

[Gotterdammerung]

Invest all your WBL at lvl 20 into a stronghold. Use the mercantile background feat to sell it for 75% of its worth. End up with around 1.7 mil gross profit. Then chaos shuffle Landlord to any different feat. Then Chaos shuffle the feat back to Landlord.

Repeat the process.

[UnjustCustos]

Invest all your WBL at lvl 20 into a stronghold. Use the mercantile background feat to sell it for 75% of its worth. End up with around 1.7 mil gross profit. Then chaos shuffle Landlord to any different feat. Then Chaos shuffle the feat back to Landlord.

Repeat the process.

Too much effort. Just build Zeppelins.

[Kelb_Panthera]

Invest all your WBL at lvl 20 into a stronghold. Use the mercantile background feat to sell it for 75% of its worth. End up with around 1.7 mil gross profit. Then chaos shuffle Landlord to any different feat. Then Chaos shuffle the feat back to Landlord.

Repeat the process.

RAW legal or not, I'd hazard a guess that few, if any, DM's would let you actually shuffle away landlord and fewer still would let you shuffle it in.

The forces of chaos first infusing you with power then the forces of law spurning that influence and granting you new skills to replace them somehow has an effect on the guy that's backing the construction of your castle? I don't think so.

[kitep]

How does the Landlord Feat work?
Doesn't that mean that if you ever spend any amount of money after you've spent the base allowance, you immediately regain the money?

No. (well...kinda)

It means if you spend money after the base allowance, you'll regain the money, but you can only spend this regained money on the stronghold as well.

Eg, if you spend 10K on the stronghold, you'll get an additional 10K which you must also spend on the stronghold.

An easier way to think of it, might be that you only have to pay 1/2 price for things. If you want something that costs 10K, you only need to spend 5K and you'll get a matching 5K. (This does not apply to the base allowance)