Quick advice on types and subtypes.

[SortofANoob]

What are the rules for Types and Subtypes?

I assume that you can only be labeled as one Type at a time, and that type would be the most resent change. IE a level 20 monk becoming an Outsider, then taking 10 levels of Fleshwarper to become an Aberration. So the players only type would be considered as an Aberration. Is this the correct way to take the Type rule?

Are subtypes the same, or can their be multiple subtypes active at a time? Say for instance that same character started as a Human, but was afflicted by lycanthrope at level 10. So at that point does he have both the Human and Shapechanger subtype, or just the Shapechanger one?

Taking our Monk/Fleshwarper Werewolf even farther, lets say he gets the Incorporeal Subtype added to him and he travels to an Elemental plane.
Is he just considered to be an Aberration-Extraplaner while away from his home plane, or do all of his subtypes remain (Human, Shapechanger, Incorporeal, and Extraplaner)?

[Zombimode]

What are the rules for Types and Subtypes?

I assume that you can only be labeled as one Type at a time, and that type would be the most resent change. IE a level 20 monk becoming an Outsider, then taking 10 levels of Fleshwarper to become an Aberration. So the players only type would be considered as an Aberration. Is this the correct way to take the Type rule?

You don't need some none-existent general rules when the class features in question are sufficiently clear on what they do.

In your example, the monk's Perfect Self class feature means that "She is forevermore treated as an outsider rather than as a humanoid (or whatever the monk’s creature type was) for the purpose of spells and magical effects". The monks creature type does not actually change.

The Fleshwarper 10 class feature Aberrant Apothesis does change your type, but is unambiguous on how: your type changes to aberration. Regardless of what you were before, now you're an aberration.
The Monk 20/Fleshwarper 10 would be an aberration that is treated as an outsider for the purpose of spells and magical effects.



Are subtypes the same, or can their be multiple subtypes active at a time? Say for instance that same character started as a Human, but was afflicted by lycanthrope at level 10. So at that point does he have both the Human and Shapechanger subtype, or just the Shapechanger one?

There is no restriction on how many subtypes you can have. If you take a look at the default werewolf entry (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/lycanthrope.htm#werewolf) you can see it has both the human and shapechanger subtype.


Taking our Monk/Fleshwarper Werewolf even farther, lets say he gets the Incorporeal Subtype added to him and he travels to an Elemental plane.
Is he just considered to be an Aberration-Extraplaner while away from his home plane, or do all of his subtypes remain (Human, Shapechanger, Incorporeal, and Extraplaner)?


Why would traveling the planes make your subtypes go away?
Your originally human incorporeal Monk 20/Fleshwarper 10 Werewolf on an elemental plane would be at least an Aberration (Shapechanger, Incorporeal, Extraplanar) that is treated as an outsider for the purpose of spells and magical effects. Its not all that clear if you still have the human subtype, but probably not. Aberrant Apothesis does not say anything about retaining any subtypes that indicate kind (thats what the human subtype is) and those seem to be at least loosely correlated with the humanoid type.

[mattie_p]

Its not all that clear if you still have the human subtype, but probably not. Aberrant Apothesis does not say anything about retaining any subtypes that indicate kind (thats what the human subtype is) and those seem to be at least loosely correlated with the humanoid type.

Great summary, but you do retain the human subtype, just not in the way you think. You pick up the augmented subtype (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#augmentedSubtype) when your type changes.

So the sample character is Aberration (Augmented Humanoid[Human], Shapechanger, & etc.)

[Vaz]

In Epic Handbook, the Atropal was an Undead Outsider - but it was changed in the 3.5 undead to an Extraplanar Undead creature.