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123456789blaaa
2013-02-07, 07:25 PM
Recently re-found this cool little Prc (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/prc/20061107b). It seems really flavorfull and you don't really lose anything much by going into it from rogue. Some thoughts on it:

It's really MAD. It needs Wisdom for its perception and eye ray abilities and Charisma for save DC's. Wisdom is not that great a stat to boost (for rogues). Is dipping monk and taking Ascetic rogue worth it (obviously taking the invisible fist ACF as well)?. Does anyone know of any Wis to x abilities that would benefit a rogue?

Since you have to take Iron Will why not take the feat Hardened Criminal? It fits thematically and more importantly allows you to take 10 on any checks for one skill with it even under conditions when taking 10 would be impossible (oh and it also makes you immune to Intimidate). UMD anyone?

Since you need Charisma for save DC's and since you're taking ranks in Intimidate to get in, you might as well invest in some fear optimization. The only rogue friendly Prc's I can remember that specialize in fear are scarlet corsair, dread pirate, and avenging executioner. Do you guys think they would be good options?

Would the various SLA feats be worth it for this build?

Hmmm...what about spelltheif? That would allow you to steal unlimited uses of your eye-rays.

Thoughts on the PRC?

Starbuck_II
2013-02-07, 07:42 PM
Recently re-found this cool little Prc (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/prc/20061107b). It seems really flavorfull and you don't really lose anything much by going into it from rogue. Some thoughts on it:

It's really MAD. It needs Wisdom for its perception and eye ray abilities and Charisma for save DC's. Wisdom is not that great a stat to boost (for rogues). Is dipping monk and taking Ascetic rogue worth it (obviously taking the invisible fist ACF as well)?. Does anyone know of any Wis to x abilities that would benefit a rogue?

Since you have to take Iron Will why not take the feat Hardened Criminal? It fits thematically and more importantly allows you to take 10 on any checks for one skill with it even under conditions when taking 10 would be impossible (oh and it also makes you immune to Intimidate). UMD anyone?

Hmmm...what about spelltheif? That would allow you to steal unlimited uses of your eye-rays.

Thoughts on the PRC?
Preqs 8 skill ranks in spot means 5th levels before taking 1st level, Great Fort/Iron Will are eh though. Sure Iron Will is useful, but Great Fort?

You do lose improved evasion (you can't get that if you take Eye levels).


Drawback, you get the eye rays so slow (waiting til 4th to get 1st ray)
But Perfect Sneak attack is pretty cool (you need to find way to get multiple attacks a standard action though like the Dual Strike feat in Complete Adventurer (so you get 2 auto sneak attacks).

By 5th level you are an amazing sneak attacker (no way to block you) though

Eugenides
2013-02-07, 11:45 PM
Well, Knowledge Devotion and Craven plus Factotum plus perfect sneak attack would be nice for consistent damage. Two sneak attacks against an adjacent target for quick burst, otherwise, at least one.