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Trixie
2013-02-08, 09:10 PM
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Trixie's Great and Powerful Guide v1.99999
Spoiler Edition

Brief Introduction

My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is a reboot of the MLP franchise by Powerpuff Girls artist Lauren Faust, currently viewed by (almost) the entire Internet, not only the intended audience. Here is a place where we discuss the joy of friendship.

> My Little Pony? Seriously?

It's a clever show. It has excellent writing, character dynamics, humor, animation, and generally treats kids seriously rather than condescending to them. It has every right to be a 20 minute corporate committee designed infomercial, but it's not.

> Isn't this a show for little girls?

Pixar technically makes shows for little boys, and produce some of the best animation in the world.

> Okay, fine. I'll give it a try. Where do I start?

No Brony could ask for more. I recommend watching the episodes in order. They're all up on Youtube. Unusually, Hasbro seems fine with having the entire series up in public because they've made no move to bring down any of the episodes. Search for "Friendship is Magic Episode 1" and you should find the series pretty easily... Or search for "Sharing is Magic" Google Doc. That is all.

> Okay, I'm going to watch it but this had better live up to the hype!

Whoa, calm down there. The show is light hearted, optimistic fun but it's not for everyone. It's good fun, the community is good fun, and everyone can do with a reminder that friendship is magic but if it doesn't gel for you we'll love and tolerate you anyway. Plus, you might hit the wrong episode. Ask first?

> Iron Hoof/Fan Theories/Shipping/Binding

All in good fun! If it's not your cup of tea, skim it, but this show has triggered a great creative outpouring from the Internet. Pony themed fan-art is abundant and often excellent. See below for some examples.

> Derpy Hooves/Doctor Whoof

Two minor background characters who were adopted as emblems of 4chan. Derpy Hooves is so named due to an animation error in the first episode that had her eyes facing in different directions; 4chan has assigned her the role of Ponyville's mailpony, and her only line so far has been "Muffins". The show's animators are aware of Derpy's popularity and she's shown up a few times recently with her eyes obviously derped. Currently made canon in Feeling Pinkie Keen and in Faust's picture showcased below, Derpy was deemed important enough to appear in storyboards for Season II.

Dr. Whoof is a pony with an hourglass cutie mark; he and his kin save time and space very quietly off camera.


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General Resources

Fan Fiction and News: Equestria Daily (http://www.equestriadaily.com/)
Discussion Image Forum: Ponychan (http://www.ponychan.net/chan/)
Pony Emotes: FiM Emotes (http://kefkafloyd.imgur.com/J8S59)
More Emotes: MC's Emotes (http://gitpmcerberus.imgur.com/ponymote)
Also Emotes: GD's Emotes (http://gadora.imgur.com/seekret_pony_projekt_1/1)
Pony Images: Ponibooru (http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/list)
More Images: 20% Cooler (http://twentypercentcooler.net/)
Know Your Meme: Ponies! (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic)
Allspark MLP Discussion Thread (http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76678&st=0&start=0)

Art Resources


OC Pony Creation Guide:

>How to make OC Pony (http://ponibooru.413chan.net/_images/048648773b808749ecbcd93b7825d545/22629%20-%20original_character_tutorial%20tutorial.png)<
>How to clothe a Pony (http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/10448a8bf5139a93e47ee0ab2185d577/23650%20-%20Touhou%20artist%3Awhy485%20drawing_guide%20fash ion%20guide%20pony%20tutorial.png)<

Deviant Art Links:

Lauren Faust (http://fyre-flye.deviantart.com/)

14 Bis (http://14-bis.deviantart.com/)
ButterSS (http://buttersc0tchsundae.deviantart.com/)
Csimadmax (http://csimadmax.deviantart.com/)
DonKoRR (http://don-komandorr.deviantart.com/)
Irving Zero (http://irving-zero.deviantart.com/)
Johnjoseco (http://johnjoseco.deviantart.com/)
Kloudmutt (http://kloudmutt.deviantart.com/)
Palestorm (http://palestorm.deviantart.com/)
Shinepaw (http://shinepawpony.deviantart.com/)

>Awesome Great and Powerful Trixie (http://kp-shadowsquirrel.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d49ccgo)<

Tutorials:

How to Draw Luna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YoOgNwPp4)
MLP Art Guides (http://s1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/DJPon-3/)
MLP Colour Guides (http://kefkafloyd.deviantart.com/)

Kloud TV (http://www.livestream.com/kloudmutt)

Concepts:

On the Design of the Mane Cast (http://sucs.org/~drspangle/Ponibooru-All-Safe/122%20-%20Posey%20g1_sparkler%20artist_Lauren_Faust%20twi light_sparkle%20g3_to_g4%20rarity%20lauren_faust%2 0rainbow_dash%20fluttershy%20pinkie_pie%20Firefly% 20g1_to_g4%20applejack%20Surprise.jpg)

Concept art by L. Faust:

AJ/AJ (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtv1PUCI/AAAAAAAABPg/aTDHM_vJ3Ek/Applejack-08.jpg)
Pinkie/Surprise (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtjpEWrI/AAAAAAAABPc/vlcKpVmK1FY/Pinkie_08.jpg)
Rarity/Sparkler (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuba65VI/AAAAAAAABPo/o7oJ1OI4bcE/Rarity_08.jpg)
Twilight/Twinkle (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuS8XZtI/AAAAAAAABPs/9CPSE6Je1Y0/Twilight_08.jpg)
Derpy/Ditzy (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtusFdII/AAAAAAAABPk/4VbhxajIt1o/Derpy_11.jpg)

Group Shot (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zPGxLKSxqsI/Tet-724kmrI/AAAAAAAABoc/74J43JjtvVc/mlplegroupruff.jpg)

5 Best Pictures [IMHO]:

TG&P Trixie 1 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoSj31bI/AAAAAAAABKc/yhAESX1bWDU/129879022202-fim_thebestmagic2.png) 2a (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevesc6Z3I/AAAAAAAABJE/wqYR1YU8-xM/129878791125-Magic_for_Friendship.png) 2b (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoV0tFSI/AAAAAAAABKg/UIrpK2_XUDk/345%20-%20filly%20flower%20Magic%20noel%20Trixie.jpg) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevn1UZNyI/AAAAAAAABJI/JQaTPZ7u9kk/1295392718493.png)
Twilight Sparkle 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQKpEFW1I/AAAAAAAABKo/PJmzRBt_g0o/twilight-%28n1298746506900%29.jpg) 2 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYgEWabUv0I/AAAAAAAABJg/S1emWO9FjbE/1297919269027.png) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQAwKvFvI/AAAAAAAABKk/08Q9f1BaGa0/1298478186234.png)
Rainbow Dash 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tuXX0V5I/AAAAAAAABOE/vPLwNGpCsU8/rainbows_are_awesome_by_adamrbi-d3awtkv.jpg) 2 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tugAF4JI/AAAAAAAABOI/RYGrQCZySJo/1298478713223.jpg) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tutzFrYI/AAAAAAAABOM/QP22FdlygtA/1299129766866.png) 3.6 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-vxE-8GgI/AAAAAAAABOY/ktOwjPQ3eiI/130057856759.png)
Fluttershy 1 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiSMaDSI/AAAAAAAABPQ/FNLXj6WE0ss/yofluttershybyarborishd.png) 2 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiUXQlvI/AAAAAAAABPU/SCs7qzer-6E/129860262040.png) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiWhyIWI/AAAAAAAABPY/r6ClIhygmw0/1297113141466.png)

Pony Games

The most recent one. (http://www.yoyogames.com/games/168448-mlp-fim-the-way-home#)
Pacderpy (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/pacderpy.html)
Two very similar dash based (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/dashattack.html) cloud gathering sidescrollers (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/rainbowdashmini.html)
Pony generator I (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/custompony.html)
Pony generator II (http://derpyhooves.com/games.php?id=3)
Pony generator III (http://generalzoi.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Pony-Creator-Beta-210228500)

New: Pinkie licks cupcakes. (http://yeaka.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Flash-Game-202202384?q=boost%3Apopular%20max_age%3A8h%20frien dship%20is%20magic&qo=22) And a playthrough for it, too. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUy1UtuNet0)
Collect Cupcakes, Lick Ponies! 2.0 (http://yeaka.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Flash-Game-TWO-202342576)

Nice Fanwork


5AMVs:5Always (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhgzpnTYCXQ)Communism is Magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJHZ4E9tRHM)Derpy Cardcaptor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWG0KLSJi8g)[BR]Freeze Ray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMXhEXQSXSw)[BR]I can go the distance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYonN9in668)[BR]Last Unicorn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwT7V_LsRQo)[BR]Lunasong (Not Your Night) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krcJa44GWq8)[BR]Muffins & Bubbles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_y8uRYI8Y)[BR]Pinkie's Brew (EE) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682pneYoP0c)[BR]PonyCraft 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJbAT1wzS8U)[BR]Still Alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za9f1c93FHY)[BR]The Stars Will Aid In Her Escape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV_0n5gp1fE)[BR]The G&P Heretic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4szgPK9Rufw)1Ponies (That are British) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOi3StWmG7A)1[B]Equestria Girls EE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPqjKk_xCo)[BR]Hub Summer Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKjBViIt-y8)[BR]Hop-Skip-Jump [original] (http://soundcloud.com/dannyimusic/mlp1-hop-skip-jump-song)[BR]Smile, Smile, Smile! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFf_rGavnFk)1Old Pony Songs 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHLqc8BSQMg) & 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCpBYLHIEuI)[BR]Ponies! (http://ponyvspony.com/)[BR]5[B]Comics:5The Damn Best Comic (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/359/5/9/pinkiedeadpool_by_csimadmax-d35ms08.jpg). Ever.And The Prequel (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/107/1/f/pinkiedeadpool_origins_by_csimadmax-d3e936w.png).[BR]And part two (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/147/8/b/battle_for_equestria_02_by_csimadmax-d3hdr5c.png).[BR]And three (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/154/2/1/battle_for_equestria_03_by_csimadmax-d3hz63e.png).[BR]And four (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/160/a/f/battle_for_equestria_04_by_csimadmax-d3iighp.png).[BR]And five (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/168/4/0/battle_for_equestria_05_by_csimadmax-d3j5nlu.png).[BR]Six (http://www.deviantart.com/download/256435109/battle_for_equestria_06_by_csimadmax-d48oalh.png) / Seven (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/252/7/6/battle_for_equestria_07_by_csimadmax-d49cgt7.png) / Eight (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/252/0/7/battle_for_equestria_08_by_csimadmax-d49dpsp.png).1Metaponies (http://gavalanche.deviantart.com/gallery/29877487).[BR]5[B]ED Fics:5Twilight Sky Over Canterlot (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-twilight-sky-over-canterlot.html)Sidelines / Midnight's Tale (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/conversion-bureau-compilation.html)[BR]World Without Rainbows (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-world-without-rainbows.html)[BR]Luxury Lotus Spa Follies (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-luxury-lotus-spa-follies.html)[BR]How Lyra Met Bon-Bon (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/02/story-how-lyra-met-bon-bon.html)[BR]Letters from Bubbly (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-letters-from-bubbly-1-10.html)[BR]Swayback Mountain (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-swayback-mountain.html)[BR]And Life Goes On (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-your-greatest-fan.html)[BR]The Three Notes (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-three-notes.html)[BR]TGaP Trixie (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-great-and-powerful-trixie.html)[BR]Antipodes (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-antipodes.html)[BR]Progress (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-progress-luna-versus-microwave.html)[BR]Bubbles (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-bubbles.html)1Pony Drinking Game (http://buttersc0tchsundae.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3cng5n)[BR]|
5[B](Other) Songs:5At The Gala / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSmihuY5ms)Fluttershy's Lullaby / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmDxuMvnehs)[BR]So Many Wonders / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tbt-Z2RwfM)[BR][BR]The French and Powerful Trixie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcpeVg7yMv8)[BR][BR]At The Gala / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlVRN-qePmA)[BR]Art of the Dress / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clm3GjqncJs)[BR]Winter Wrap Up / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfqIEGb2s5w)5[B]GitP Fics:5AmishPirate (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20TheAmishPirate)1Darth BC (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Bobcat)1Deadly (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Adcoon):[BR][BR]Trollestia 1 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/200/0/b/trickster_goddess_nr_1_by_adcoon-d40tt3d.png) 2 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/201/a/4/trickster_goddess_nr_2_by_adcoon-d414fzw.png) 3 (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/214/1/3/trickster_goddess_nr_3_by_adcoon-d42h2hx.png) 4 (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/229/0/d/trickster_goddess_nr_4_by_adcoon-d46vksj.png).1EsperDerek (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20EsperDerek)1Grif (http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Grif)1PhantomFox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20PhantomFox):[BR][BR]Pride Goes Before a Folly (http://phantomfox7.deviantart.com/art/Pride-Goes-Before-A-Folly-211724143)1PhoeKun (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Phoe)1Raz Fox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Raz_Fox)1Thanqol (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Thanqol)[BR]

Same Old Ponymotes:

Original Batch
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MCerberus
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Crazy!Twi
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http://i.imgur.com/sp5Tb.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/sp5Tb.png
http://i.imgur.com/vlJi6.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/vlJi6.gif

Kyouhen Series feat. Ninja Pinkie!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/th_NinjaPinkie.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/th_NinjaPinkie.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/NinjaSurprise.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/NinjaSurprise.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/PinkieSwear.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/PinkieSwear.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia2.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia2.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gummicle.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gummicle.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gildicle.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon1.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon2.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon2.png

Misc:

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http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/designs/11497743,width=100,height=100/Brony-Brohoof-v3.pnghttp://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/designs/11497743,width=100,height=100/Brony-Brohoof-v3.png

Seekrit Pony Projekt
1-20
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http://i.imgur.com/b5xPJ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/b5xPJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/CEUYj.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/CEUYj.png

21-40
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http://i.imgur.com/DrSYq.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/DrSYq.png
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http://i.imgur.com/hleys.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hleys.png
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41-60
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http://i.imgur.com/JBZDO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/JBZDO.png
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http://i.imgur.com/OPCUO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/OPCUO.png

61-80
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81-100
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101-112
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http://i.imgur.com/VwCqN.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/VwCqN.png
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113-124 (Luna Series)

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http://i.imgur.com/gN9Ou.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/gN9Ou.png
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http://i.imgur.com/ZeYyu.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ZeYyu.png
http://i.imgur.com/L3ZSw.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L3ZSw.png
125-136 (Sweetie Series)
http://i.imgur.com/Jg8wb.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Jg8wb.png
http://i.imgur.com/9KKKz.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/9KKKz.png
http://i.imgur.com/KjRiq.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/KjRiq.png
http://i.imgur.com/pteUs.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/pteUs.png
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http://i.imgur.com/T9hVn.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/T9hVn.png
http://i.imgur.com/EkuTB.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/EkuTB.png
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http://i.imgur.com/0GUM4.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/0GUM4.png
http://i.imgur.com/cCNvw.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/cCNvw.png
http://i.imgur.com/4mTcY.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/4mTcY.png


Deadly's Ironically Presented Anti-Spoiler Measures

DO YOU HATE SPOILER TAGS?

Well, Deadly's here to help you get rid of them... with a vengeance! Create a new bookmark in your browser and copy the code below as the link/url of said bookmark. Name it something helpful, like "Spoilers B GONE!" or whatever. Then whenever you view a thread here on GitP you just hit the bookmark and BAM! no more spoilers.

You won't even see the boxes, just the bare innards in all their gory glory.

It also makes sure that no image is wider than 600px, to avoid stretching pages, and will attempt to "intelligently" remove repeated images except avatars. Neat, huh? Sadly that last part means stuff like pony emotes may get lost but the forum doesn't make it easy for me to single out images in quotes as I'd have liked... that's an open problem, I guess.

Tested in Firefox, Chrome and Opera. Should work in any modern browser, but you never know with these things.


javascript:(function() { var a = document.getElementsByTagName('div'); for (var i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { if (a[i].className == 'spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'block'; a[i].className = ''; } else if (a[i].className == 'pre-spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'none'; }} var ims = new Array(); var tmp; a = document.getElementsByTagName('img'); for (i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { tmp = a[i].parentNode.className ; if (ims.indexOf(a[i].getAttribute('src')) == -1) { ims.push(a[i].getAttribute('src')); a[i].style.maxWidth = '600px'; } else if (tmp != 'avataroverflow' && tmp != 'alt2') { a[i].style.display = 'none' ; }}})();

If you don't mind repeated images, here's a version that leaves them be.

javascript:(function() { var a = document.getElementsByTagName('div'); for (var i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { if (a[i].className == 'spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'block'; a[i].className = ''; } else if (a[i].className == 'pre-spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'none'; }} a = document.getElementsByTagName('img'); for (i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { a[i].style.maxWidth = '600px'; }})();

Past Threads:

Thread I - Because Friendship Is Magic
Thread II - Now About 20% Cooler
Thread III - The Great & Powerful Thread
Thread IV - Friendship is Sufficiently Advanced Technology
Thread V - Art of the Thread
Thread VI - MUFFINS!
Thread VII - The Grand Galloping Thread
Thread VIII - Friendship is Music
Thread IX - The Best Thread Ever
Thread X - We Trot 'til We Drop
Thread XI - "Mmph!"
Thread XII - No One Can Groove Like the Girls with the Hooves
Thread XIII - Fast/Fine/Fierce Thread
Thread XIV - Boots on Hooves / Bikinis on Top
Thread XV - The Greater and Powerful-er Thread
Thread XVI - There's a Pony for That!
Thread XVII - Call Upon the Thread Ponies!
Thread XVIII - Perfect Isn't Easy
Thread XIX - I Emptied Your Thread
Thread XX & Thread XX - Appletastic Treats
Thread XXI - A Very Minty Thread
Thread XXII - Surprise!
Thread XXIII - It. Is. ON!
Thread XXIV - Now About 200% Longer Than Firefly
Thread XXV - Au Contraire, Mon Ami!
Thread XXVI - Applebloom to Zecora!
Thread XXVII - Eternal Chaos comes with Chocolate Rain
Thread XXVIII - In the Crazy of 40.000 Posts, There is Only Pony!
Thread XXIX - The Spoilers have been DOUBLED!
Thread XXX - Trixie Treats!
Thread XXXI - The Great and Powerful XXXie!
Thread XXXII - Find a Ponythread, and Soarin' the heck out of it!
Thread XXXIII - Happy Birthday Pony(thread)!
Thread XXXIV - There is Pony of it, no exceptions!
Thread XXXV - The Thread Everypony Should Know
Thread XXXVI - Superponies Everywhere!
Thread XXXVII - We Should Have Learned [Something] By Now!
Thread XXXVIII - Nopony Expects Sponish Pinquisition!
Thread XXXIX - There is no Pegasus Mafia!
Thread XL - The Plot Thickens!
Thread XLI - Riots, Riots Everywhere!
Thread XLII - Life, the Universe and Ponies
Thread XLIII - Season II Ruined My Fanon!
Thread XLIV - This Thread is Going to be Perfect!
Thread XLV - Reign Of Terror
Thread XLVI - *ROBOT TAKEOVER*
Thread XLVII - Ponibooru, We Hardly Knew Ye...
Thread XLVIII - I say Ol' Chap, how about those Equestrians?
Thread XLIX - I Have Done Nothing Productive All Day!
Thread L - The L is for Love!
Thread LI - FE
Thread LII - 525.600 Ponies!
Thread LIII - Stashing Ponythreads Around in Case of Ponymergency!
Thread LIV-E Long and Pony!
Thread LV:55 Ponythread learns Agility!
Thread LVI:S Has Left the Playground!
Thread LVII - You Must Construct Additional Pinkies!


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Archived:
Pony Week | Old Avatar Requests

Topaz
2013-02-08, 09:14 PM
Topaz' Traditionally Tardy List of Pony tabletop RPGs:

Pony Tales: Aspirations of Harmony (Homebrew, d20 meets Final Fantasy style) (http://mlpfanart.wikia.com/wiki/Pony_Tales:_Aspirations_of_Harmony)
Ponies & Parasprites, Season Two (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3c5FOJEDIrxd1hTRzdMVUFPcFk/edit?pli=1) (Homebrew) (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ponies-Parasprites/210068732375744)
My Little Pony: Roleplaying is Magic, Season Two (http://www.mlprim.com/) (Homebrew)
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, The Roleplaying Game (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2zrjqXYhlMcN2Q0M2VmNmMtY2I4Mi00YjA1LTg3NDctYzQ2Z GZiMDQ3ZGFk/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1) (Homebrew)
Pony Tales the RPG (http://catspaw-dtp-services.deviantart.com/gallery/39628312) (D6 system based)
Friendship is FATE (https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1PX7R81aQyH_HoJ7_tfOMhivgoh5T3tOgzgSXyZMWlQ g) (FATE system)
The Savage World of My Little Pony (http://giftkrieg23.deviantart.com/gallery/30436047) (Savage Worlds)
Puzzles and Ponies (http://puzzlesandponies.deviantart.com/) (Homebrew)
Ponycraft (http://ponycraft.org/rpg/) (3D6 Homebrew)
Friendship is Magic, the Tabletop RPG (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192468) (Homebrew, these forums)
Ponies: The Roleplaying Game (http://msfhwraith.deviantart.com/art/Pony-RPG-First-Draft-289542812) (Homebrew)
Sereg's Pony RPG (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KyPWVXT93Zz8LiZawFxl6kUy0OrdlQYcBBXo-Sv6GKw/edit?pli=1) (D10 Homebrew)
Unknown Ponies: Failure is Awesome (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3207923/Unknown%20Ponies%20Failure%20is%20Awesome.pdf) (Unknown Armies)
Don't Rest Your Hooves (http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Don%27t_Rest_Your_Hooves) (Don't Rest Your Head)
Don't Hate Your Friends (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?648876-DRYH-My-Little-Pony-FIM-Don-t-Hate-Your-Friends) (Don't Rest Your Head hack, under discussion)
Ponies! My Little Pony: D20 adaptation (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=12296.0)
Pony Races for D&D 3.5 (These forums) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182994)
Ponies for D&D 4e (http://tradwiki.foxxtrot.net/index.php?title=Pony)
Courage is Magic 1.13 (http://littlelunamoonmatron.deviantart.com/art/Courage-is-Magic-1-13-MLP-Tabletop-Game-346132380) (Based on D&D4e, still in alpha state)
Ponyfinder thread on Paizo forum (http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz52pj?Prisons-and-PoniesPonyfinder-Feedback-needed#41)
Storyteller based Pony RPG tumblr (http://tabletop-friendship.tumblr.com/)
Fallout: Equestria (https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AcokIqzJW7QSZGYzdzdjY2pfMGRubXd6amY4) (Fallout Tabletop d100 project from [email protected] )
Fallout: Equestria PNP (Revised) (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fsNLwKTWEt0pawFWLRzBtEPfvDQGitGPh8NN3Zk0xo4/edit?pli=1) (Homebrew, unrelated)

Further contributions and updates welcome!

Trixie
2013-02-08, 09:17 PM
Yes, I know it's same old spoiler pic, but spoilers never grow old, and besides, will edit something better in this morning >_>

Anarion
2013-02-08, 09:22 PM
Are we still talking about the Fighting is Magic cease and desist? Because I am a sad pony about that. http://i.imgur.com/xrtxn.png

I honestly can't imagine why it happened now as opposed to any other time, particularly given the publicity. And, at this point, I'm not interested in speculating. I hope they reach someone at Hasbro with whom they could negotiate because just ending the project due to a stupid letter seems like a wasted opportunity for both Hasbro and Mane 6.

Thanqol
2013-02-08, 09:27 PM
Are we still talking about the Fighting is Magic cease and desist? Because I am a sad pony about that. http://i.imgur.com/xrtxn.png

I honestly can't imagine why it happened now as opposed to any other time, particularly given the publicity. And, at this point, I'm not interested in speculating. I hope they reach someone at Hasbro with whom they could negotiate because just ending the project due to a stupid letter seems like a wasted opportunity for both Hasbro and Mane 6.

My perspective on the situation is covered quite comprehensively by Gabe Newell (http://youtu.be/t8QEOBgLBQU). Speech is an hour long and I know that's not cool on the Internet, but the man knows his stuff.

BlasTech
2013-02-08, 09:27 PM
Are we still talking about the Fighting is Magic cease and desist? Because I am a sad pony about that. http://i.imgur.com/xrtxn.png


*Hugs Anarion*

Me too http://i.imgur.com/xrtxn.png

Anarion
2013-02-08, 09:38 PM
My perspective on the situation is covered quite comprehensively by Gabe Newell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8QEOBgLBQU&feature=share&list=FL0AfZ3DprcTs7mZ5ZSEIatA). Speech is an hour long and I know that's not cool on the Internet, but the man knows his stuff.

I'm going to watch this, but it had better be worth my hour.


*Hugs Anarion*

Me too http://i.imgur.com/xrtxn.png

*Hugs back*

Forum Explorer
2013-02-08, 09:38 PM
Agreed. It almost makes me think that you shouldn't go into detail about your work so they won't send a cease and desist until it's too late.

Madcrafter
2013-02-08, 09:42 PM
Wait, am I correct in thinking there are actually two episodes tomorrow? Or have I mixed up my dates?

Gamerlord
2013-02-08, 09:42 PM
Wait, am I correct in thinking there are actually two episodes tomorrow? Or have I mixed up my dates?
One episode tomorrow, and then the season finale on the 16th.

Madcrafter
2013-02-08, 09:46 PM
One episode tomorrow, and then the season finale on the 16th.

Ah, I saw some place that said it was on the 9th, and got confused.

thubby
2013-02-08, 09:53 PM
what i would really like to know is why they waited THIS LONG to send such a thing. everyone in the community has known about it for ages.

otakuryoga
2013-02-08, 09:55 PM
Fighting is Magic has received a cease and desist from Hasbro. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/fighting-is-magic-receives-cease-desist.html) :mad:

i am just amazed it took this long for the C&D order to come down
--i thought they would get hit with it after they psoted their first videos of the actual fighting and have been waiting for it since then

TheAmishPirate
2013-02-08, 09:55 PM
what i would really like to know is why they waited THIS LONG to send such a thing. everyone in the community has known about it for ages.

As someone who spends a great deal of his time making games, I can't even imagine what the dev team is feeling right now. To put that much blood, sweat, and tears into a game, only to have the plug pulled when the end was almost in sight?

I hope they can get this resolved.

Anarion
2013-02-08, 10:03 PM
As someone who spends a great deal of his time making games, I can't even imagine what the dev team is feeling right now. To put that much blood, sweat, and tears into a game, only to have the plug pulled when the end was almost in sight?

I hope they can get this resolved.

I don't say this lightly, but if they can't do anything else, I think they should ignore it.

Statutory damages on one violation of copyright law max at $150,000 and, given what the documentary raised, I'm pretty sure a Fighting is Magic Kickstarter would break that amount. And once it's released into the wild, it can never be destroyed.

DigoDragon
2013-02-08, 10:04 PM
Are we still talking about the Fighting is Magic cease and desist? Because I am a sad pony about that. http://i.imgur.com/xrtxn.png

Just saw a message about it pop up as I was playing Skyrim. Scary part was that my follower at the time (Rarity) started crying "WHY?! WHY?! WHY?!" soon after O.o`

She knows...



It almost makes me think that you shouldn't go into detail about your work so they won't send a cease and desist until it's too late.

I heard the same statement made when Square sent a C&D letter to the team that was making a 3D Crono Trigger game. Sometimes... I wonder myself...



what i would really like to know is why they waited THIS LONG to send such a thing. everyone in the community has known about it for ages.

Research I suppose? Making sure they understood what it was they're wanting to cease and that it was ongoing before saying something. A lot of times big projects like this don't last and cease on their own accord.

Thanqol
2013-02-08, 10:07 PM
I don't say this lightly, but if they can't do anything else, I think they should ignore it.

Statutory damages on one violation of copyright law max at $150,000 and, given what the documentary raised, I'm pretty sure a Fighting is Magic Kickstarter would break that amount. And once it's released into the wild, it can never be destroyed.

They could alternately finish it, leak it and instantly dissolve the corporation, blaming 'hackers' for the breach before fading into the walls. Since it's free software then there's no revenue stream to trace and no corporation to sue.

DigoDragon
2013-02-08, 10:16 PM
but the question was if anyone uses gravy on anything besides meat

I've had brown gravy on french fries, broccoli, bananas, and once (due to a dare) in my coffee.



Was there ever any doubt? http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg

I want to create a Trixie pic in the same vein as Gamer Luna (i.e. with headset and controller), with "Trixie Calls Hax!" for the caption. :smallbiggrin:

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-08, 10:17 PM
My plans for today just kind of got shot down, so here's a quick list I made of thread links that didn't make it to the original post.

My Little Pony XLIX: I Have Done Nothing Productive All Day! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249733)
My Little Pony L: The L is for Love! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251005)
My Little Pony LI: FE (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252327)
My Little Pony LII: 525.600 Ponies! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253677)
My Little Pony LIII: Stashing Ponythreads Around in Case of Ponymergency! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255115)
My Little Pony LIV:E Long and Pony! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256921)
Ponythread LV:55 Ponythread learns Agility! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258630)
My Little Pony LVI:S Has Left the Playground! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=260571)
My Little Pony LVII: You Must Construct Additional Pinkies! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262029)
My Little Pony LVIII: Ponythread does not trust Wheels! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263796)
My Little Pony LIX: Is Very Proud Of You (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265873)
My Little Pony LX: 60 Ponythreads? That's an Academy record! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268542)

E: Welp, looks like somepony beat me to it.


Are we still talking about the Fighting is Magic cease and desist? Because I am a sad pony about that. http://i.imgur.com/xrtxn.png
Welp, I just found out about it. I need to read more about ponies. Even though I don't like most fighting games, that's really lame. Oddly enough, an associate of mine once sent me a link to obtain the infamous leaked copy, and I refused to get it at that time because I knew they didn't want it out and was kind of hoping to try the finished thing just once for bucks and giggles.

That said, I don't think Kickstarter would approve a funding project for the explicit purpose of tanking through a cease and desist order. Though I would believe the ramifications that could result from a success would be entertaining.

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-08, 10:22 PM
They could alternately finish it, leak it and instantly dissolve the corporation, blaming 'hackers' for the breach before fading into the walls. Since it's free software then there's no revenue stream to trace and no corporation to sue.

Given the demonstrable level of existence around before hand that might not be effective. Also were they actually a corporation, if not then or maybe even if they can be personally liable. Especially for anything after a C&D letter I'd imagine.

The smarter path would have been to not toot their own horn like they were a serious developer putting a product together.

So that when people here about you the product is already out in the wild. .

Tiki Snakes
2013-02-08, 10:30 PM
The Streets of Rage remake project had run for, what, 5 years? Maybe more. It was hit with a cease and decist the moment it was finished. They had informed Sega of the project right at the start, remade every single art asset from scratch for essentially the entire series and combined them into a single game that put every Streets of Rage release since the megadrive to shame. Then they were taken down. Nothing to be done.

There is no reprieve, there is no way out. There shaln't be a deal with Hasbro and unlike streets of rage remix, we will never even see the finished product.

And the worst part of it all is that there isn't even anyone to blame. It's just how things are.

Thanqol
2013-02-08, 10:32 PM
Given the demonstrable level of existence around before hand that might not be effective. Also were they actually a corporation, if not then or maybe even if they can be personally liable. Especially for anything after a C&D letter I'd imagine.

[Hypothetical flawless plan for circumventing legal liability while retaining plausible deniability redacted]


The smarter path would have been to not toot their own horn like they were a serious developer putting a product together.

So that when people here about you the product is already out in the wild. .

Yeah, copyright problems like this do seem to circle around teams that attempt to run their projects like businesses, for-profit or not.

thubby
2013-02-08, 10:37 PM
we can absolutely blame hasbro.

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-08, 10:40 PM
And the worst part of it all is that there isn't even anyone to blame. It's just how things are.

Oh there's someone to blame we just can't discuss it here.


Yeah, copyright problems like this do seem to circle around teams that attempt to run their projects like businesses, for-profit or not.

Fly around on a radar screen long enough and eventually someone will fire back.

Shadow of the Sun
2013-02-08, 10:42 PM
we can absolutely blame hasbro.

Except no, we can't.

The Fighting is Magic project is one that could, conceivably, impact shareholder value. And the fun little thing about American copyright and such laws is that if a company knowingly takes an action that decreases shareholder value, or knowingly doesn't take an action that would protect shareholder value, they are liable to be sued.

Even if the Hasbro execs and all the workers there are chill with Fighting is Magic, they legally must take action to avoid being sued.

It's just how the law is.

TheAmishPirate
2013-02-08, 10:43 PM
I don't say this lightly, but if they can't do anything else, I think they should ignore it.

Statutory damages on one violation of copyright law max at $150,000 and, given what the documentary raised, I'm pretty sure a Fighting is Magic Kickstarter would break that amount. And once it's released into the wild, it can never be destroyed.


Except no, we can't.

The Fighting is Magic project is one that could, conceivably, impact shareholder value. And the fun little thing about American copyright and such laws is that if a company knowingly takes an action that decreases shareholder value, or knowingly doesn't take an action that would protect shareholder value, they are liable to be sued.

Even if the Hasbro execs and all the workers there are chill with Fighting is Magic, they legally must take action to avoid being sued.

It's just how the law is.

Putting these two together, has Hasbro "done enough" to protect their copyright? If the team continued, and they did not pursue anything beyond the C&D letter, what would that mean?

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-08, 10:50 PM
There's always the possibility of redrawing and redoing everything so that it's all completely original-character-i-fied. Heck, considering the post, they've probably already considered this, and don't want to make any announcements on it yet because they're either waiting for more information on not needing to do that or just don't like the concept in general. I mean, yeah, it's still a lot of work, but by the end of the day Hasbro owns My Little Pony, not ponies in general.

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-08, 10:55 PM
Putting these two together, has Hasbro "done enough" to protect their copyright? If the team continued, and they did not pursue anything beyond the C&D letter, what would that mean?

An eye may be blind or turned, but it cannot seriously claim to go blind having seen something once.

You could literally have a case like Hasbro now suing for damages while being sued by their shareholders for being too slow to do so.

A fun tibit, those "legal disclaimers" fanfic writers have been putting on things since forever.... they not only mean nothing they if anything act contrary to their purpose and can be used against the defendant as an admission of guilt.


There's always the possibility of redrawing and redoing everything so that it's all completely original-character-i-fied. Heck, considering the post, they've probably already considered this, and don't want to make any announcements on it yet because they're either waiting for more information on not needing to do that or just don't like the concept in general. I mean, yeah, it's still a lot of work, but by the end of the day Hasbro owns My Little Pony, not ponies in general.

I'd play a game with ponies named Charity and Hackensack.

Thanqol
2013-02-08, 10:56 PM
There's always the possibility of redrawing and redoing everything so that it's all completely original-character-i-fied. Heck, considering the post, they've probably already considered this, and don't want to make any announcements on it yet because they're either waiting for more information on not needing to do that or just don't like the concept in general. I mean, yeah, it's still a lot of work, but by the end of the day Hasbro owns My Little Pony, not ponies in general.

New topic! We need six new ponies to fill up the FiM OC reboot!


A fun tibit, those "legal disclaimers" fanfic writers have been putting on things since forever.... they not only mean nothing they if anything act contrary to their purpose and can be used against the defendant as an admission of guilt.

In addition to being absurd.

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-08, 10:59 PM
New topic! We need six new ponies to fill up the FiM OC reboot!
:smalltongue: I have actually been keeping a "Your Tiny Horsey" series in the back of my mind for when the series ends. I haven't been able to decide if the Applejack-analogue should have an orange, pear, or lemon orchard, though.

Shadow of the Sun
2013-02-08, 11:01 PM
:smalltongue: I have actually been keeping a "Your Tiny Horsey" series in the back of my mind for when the series ends. I haven't been able to decide if the Applejack-analogue should have an orange, pear, or lemon orchard, though.

I would go with lemons, if only for a "When life gives you lemons" pun.

Thanqol
2013-02-08, 11:02 PM
:smalltongue: I have actually been keeping a "Your Tiny Horsey" series in the back of my mind for when the series ends. I haven't been able to decide if the Applejack-analogue should have an orange, pear, or lemon orchard, though.

The Collective's Diminutive Equine has Potatojack. Eastern Personal Small Horse would feature Ringojack.

zimmerwald1915
2013-02-08, 11:10 PM
:smalltongue: I have actually been keeping a "Your Tiny Horsey" series in the back of my mind for when the series ends. I haven't been able to decide if the Applejack-analogue should have an orange, pear, or lemon orchard, though.
Why you have not considered a cherry orchard is beyond me.

Anarion
2013-02-08, 11:20 PM
Thanqol, I watched that video of Gabe Newell. I'm impressed with his intelligence and he's probably right. I don't think retooling a business model is a short-term solution though, it's more of a 20 years from now kind of solution.



Further point. I try to be very careful when I fling around random legal analysis even though we're not providing anyone with professional advice here. There is some misinformation in this thread and we should all stop talking about Hasbro's legal requirements because
a) They're not entirely clear and
b) We don't know enough to figure them out

My final thought is that they should stop thinking about the law. There's considerable money and goodwill to be had here if both sides actually got together and negotiated. The law can be made to conform to that if they agree with each other instead of being in opposition.

Thanqol
2013-02-08, 11:29 PM
Thanqol, I watched that video of Gabe Newell. I'm impressed with his intelligence and he's probably right. I don't think retooling a business model is a short-term solution though, it's more of a 20 years from now kind of solution.

That line of thinking is why Steam smashed Gamestop and Apple annihilated Microsoft. Innovation in your business model can't be put into the 'never' category (20 years in business is the same as saying 'never' because 90% of your current staff probably won't be working there 20 years from now.)

Not something to rush into either, but inaction is fuel for creative destruction.


My final thought is that they should stop thinking about the law. There's considerable money and goodwill to be had here if both sides actually got together and negotiated. The law can be made to conform to that if they agree with each other instead of being in opposition.

Sell them the licence. Sell them the license and have them put it up on Kickstarter and send all of the money to Hasbro. These guys are doing this for free, if you don't capitalise on their hard work you are throwing both financial and reputation capital away.

If any business needs an Internet Relations division, it's Hasbro.

Shadow of the Sun
2013-02-08, 11:39 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/3f8792d1257b1a93430e6cc1e80cbae9/tumblr_inline_mhxr8jgcpC1qz4rgp.png

Welp.

Pendulous
2013-02-08, 11:47 PM
Are video game copyrights different from TV shows? Or, does it matter here? Reason I ask is because abridged series suffer no (serious) repercussions from what they do. It's the same effect basically. Using the copyrighted material as fair use without making money should be able to be done by anyone.

Forum Explorer
2013-02-09, 12:19 AM
New topic! We need six new ponies to fill up the FiM OC reboot!



In addition to being absurd.


http://media.tumblr.com/3f8792d1257b1a93430e6cc1e80cbae9/tumblr_inline_mhxr8jgcpC1qz4rgp.png

Welp.

Ok Thanqol. Faust is clearly hinting that Metal Mask needs to be in a fighting game.


On a random question; The songs can't be taken off youtube because they are original (kinda) and use fanart instead of clips from the show. Correct?

thubby
2013-02-09, 12:20 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/3f8792d1257b1a93430e6cc1e80cbae9/tumblr_inline_mhxr8jgcpC1qz4rgp.png

Welp.

while this would be potentially awesome, high quality sprites are not that simple to sub in.



On a random question; The songs can't be taken off youtube because they are original (kinda) and use fanart instead of clips from the show. Correct?

if they really fought to the death for it, hasbro could probably pull it. by attrition if nothing else.
but things like that are so far from worth it.

Pendulous
2013-02-09, 12:46 AM
Read between the lines, Luna confirmed for season 4: https://twitter.com/tarastrong/status/300038862275760128




On a random question; The songs can't be taken off youtube because they are original (kinda) and use fanart instead of clips from the show. Correct?

Too unique I'm sure. And I don't know how serious Faust is, but with needing to redo characters, move sets (because they are unique to each character), and backgrounds, there's no point in suggesting changing characters, they might as well start from scratch. I wonder though. What about the other games. Really, the only one I care about is Pony Chronicles, (http://ponychronicles.tumblr.com/), but if they're gonna kill any games related to them, then oh well.

Lord Seth
2013-02-09, 12:47 AM
Are video game copyrights different from TV shows? Or, does it matter here? Reason I ask is because abridged series suffer no (serious) repercussions from what they do. It's the same effect basically.Abridged Series are parodies. It's a heck of a lot easier to argue fair use when it's a parody. There also seems to be more apathy from the companies about it.


Using the copyrighted material as fair use without making money should be able to be done by anyone.Fair use does not work that way. There's more to it than whether it's profit or not.

Side note! I'm suddenly thinking about the actual level of technology in Equestria. While obviously magic is used for a bunch of things, at the same time I'm blanking on what they actually use for communication. There's some teleportation in letters and such, but I'm trying to figure out if they ever showed anything like phones.

Pendulous
2013-02-09, 12:59 AM
Fair use does not work that way. There's more to it than whether it's profit or not.



Then what's the difference between a person making a drawing, or an animation, or direct music (taking a song directly from the show and remixing it or whatever), and someone making a video game (free) off that same IP?


Side note! I'm suddenly thinking about the actual level of technology in Equestria. While obviously magic is used for a bunch of things, at the same time I'm blanking on what they actually use for communication. There's some teleportation in letters and such, but I'm trying to figure out if they ever showed anything like phones.

Unless it was some random background image, no, nothing but mailboxes, with mailmen that I assume delivers everything on foot. Which, you gotta think that's a slow mail system.

Mando Knight
2013-02-09, 01:14 AM
Unless it was some random background image, no, nothing but mailboxes, with mailmen that I assume delivers everything on foot. Which, you gotta think that's a slow mail system.

Maybe by our standards, but for its time, the real-life Pony Express (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony_Express) was pretty darn fast. I would not be surprised at all if that's what they would decide to call the show's mail service if necessary.

t209
2013-02-09, 01:15 AM
http://www.drunkduck.com/Cobblestone_Street_or_My_Little_Pony_Meets_Sesame_ Street/5422971/
That was lame, Bert. But I can tolerate that since you made pinkie laugh.

Anarion
2013-02-09, 01:29 AM
Are video game copyrights different from TV shows? Or, does it matter here? Reason I ask is because abridged series suffer no (serious) repercussions from what they do. It's the same effect basically. Using the copyrighted material as fair use without making money should be able to be done by anyone.

There's no difference, copyright is copyright.


Then what's the difference between a person making a drawing, or an animation, or direct music (taking a song directly from the show and remixing it or whatever), and someone making a video game (free) off that same IP?


Again, no difference and all of those things are unlawful, despite how often they're done.

Copyright as a system exists in a weird fugue state wherein the norm is to violate it and ignore that it's violated. We would be worse off if it were enforced and worse off if it were changed, at least for most proposed changes I've seen.

Eakin
2013-02-09, 02:39 AM
Read the news about the C&D. Really, REALLY pissed off about it.

I've sort of come to the realization that my idea that Hasbro was interested in being a partner with this fandom was, from the start, painfully naive. Hasbro doesn't want to foster the brony community, Hasbro wants to control the brony community. Huge difference.

Hasbro is not our friend. Hasbro is our enemy, to be manipulated and circumvented by any means necessary. I bought season three via iTunes. I don't plan to buy season four, but you can bet that I'll be watching it.

TheAmishPirate
2013-02-09, 02:45 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/3f8792d1257b1a93430e6cc1e80cbae9/tumblr_inline_mhxr8jgcpC1qz4rgp.png

Welp.

I'm going to go ahead and log this one in the "Miracles I didn't see coming" bin, and hope that something more can come of this.

Forum Explorer
2013-02-09, 02:47 AM
Unless it was some random background image, no, nothing but mailboxes, with mailmen that I assume delivers everything on foot. Which, you gotta think that's a slow mail system.

Pegasi can fly, and they do have trains. So I imagine it's actually pretty quick.

Beacon of Chaos
2013-02-09, 03:38 AM
Fighting is Magic has received a cease and desist from Hasbro. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/fighting-is-magic-receives-cease-desist.html) :mad:
Well then. I'm going to see if the leaked version is still to be found.

Super psyched that Lauren might be helping them out. We'll see how that goes.


New topic! We need six new ponies to fill up the FiM OC reboot!
I pick me.
I accept.
Welcome aboard.

You better believe I've already worked out all the fighting moves for Elixir :smallbiggrin:

Aotrs Commander
2013-02-09, 05:31 AM
When I finally snap and burn the planet to the ground (conquest as a goal gets less and less likely every single day, as humans prove to me a little more every day that there is no point in preserving the species), I will be making a point of haulling up all the people make big decisions (political, legal, ecomonic or otherwise) and making a special point of dealing with their souls. And I do mean ALL. Not just the ones who would have been alive at the time.



I am not a fan of fighting games at the best of times, but to have two year's of work wasted (Hasbro don't escape any blame, they should have done this two years ago if they are required to have done it) is ridiculous.

BlasTech
2013-02-09, 05:41 AM
Have you ever had the thing where you're way way behind the times with a specific piece of pop culture?

Like if you just got the original portal game, and only now understand (and seek to make) "The cake is a lie" jokes.

Yeah, I finally set aside the 2-3 hours to catch up on Turnabout Storm, since I'd forgotten where I was up to, and finally watch part 4/4. It was ... very entertaining ... except ... for the bit

Where there's a @%!#^! part 5/4 to still come!!!! ARGGHGHHGHGHGHGHGH! :smallfurious::smallfurious::smalltongue:

Aotrs Commander
2013-02-09, 05:54 AM
What the frack is up with all the sudden (human-containing) Pokemon crossovers on FimFic all of a sudden? In the feature box, no less?

Have we really reached such a nadir in overall pony fic quality that's all that's left?

Thanqol
2013-02-09, 05:59 AM
Ok Thanqol. Faust is clearly hinting that Metal Mask needs to be in a fighting game.

Hmmm


When I finally snap and burn the planet to the ground (conquest as a goal gets less and less likely every single day, as humans prove to me a little more every day that there is no point in preserving the species), I will be making a point of haulling up all the people make big decisions (political, legal, ecomonic or otherwise) and making a special point of dealing with their souls. And I do mean ALL. Not just the ones who would have been alive at the time.

To be fair, the system worked fine right up until the internet was invented. Then the first decade was spent as the province of a minute handful of nerds, the second was spent on oppression and lawsuits, and only now are we entering the days of mainstream internet power were the sheer inapplicability of the old laws creates an ongoing crapstorm of horrible situations.

The fact that a fix is not currently in the works is a dismal failure, but public pressure is building against some ancient and entrenched vested interests. It's a sad fact that the only way for a system to change is generational revolution - or, waiting for the Wrong Old People to die off - but I kind of like that way more than the proposed alternative of 'murder everyone, reap their souls'.

Tiki Snakes
2013-02-09, 06:32 AM
Are video game copyrights different from TV shows? Or, does it matter here? Reason I ask is because abridged series suffer no (serious) repercussions from what they do. It's the same effect basically. Using the copyrighted material as fair use without making money should be able to be done by anyone.

if I recall correctly, both friendship is witchcraft and the mentally abridged series have been taken off YouTube actually. Rainbow dash presents is still up. The guys who do the latter have put up some vids explaining the whole situation. Being parody is a legal defence, but it doesn't help you online one bit.

If I was the fighting is magic team, I'd be snapping Faust up on her offer immediately. If I was thanqol I'd be popping in to offer them use of mask, because you never know.

Thanqol
2013-02-09, 06:39 AM
if I recall correctly, both friendship is witchcraft and the mentally abridged series have been taken off YouTube actually. Rainbow dash presents is still up. The guys who do the latter have put up some vids explaining the whole situation. Being parody is a legal defence, but it doesn't help you online one bit.

I think the most remarkable thing I learned from that process is that Hasbro doesn't have a department that goes around taking things offline. Instead you've got what is basically a call centre full of dudes who watch videos all day, every day, and these are just average schmoes without much legal understanding. They flag stuff and it automatically enters Youtube's system. Lawyers and cackling corporations are not actually involved at any point.

It's not malice, it's incomprehensible, apathetic bureaucracy.

EDIT: I would like to add that the Mentally Advanced guys are basically their own worst enemies in their fight by dint of the fact that they're trying to get paid for what they do.

It's reasonable to try and get paid for what you do, sure, but trying to make money from someone else's copyright (even if you're covered by fair use) is like swimming with an open wound. It draws the sharks.


If I was the fighting is magic team, I'd be snapping Faust up on her offer immediately. If I was thanqol I'd be popping in to offer them use of mask, because you never know.

She is the prettiest pony.

Trixie
2013-02-09, 06:59 AM
Agreed. It almost makes me think that you shouldn't go into detail about your work so they won't send a cease and desist until it's too late.

First, it's kinda hard to gather team to do such a project if you do it in secret, second, you can't build recognition for what you're doing, third, you can still be hit with C&D once you publish it, and getting to that stage means the reaction might be even more drastic.


what i would really like to know is why they waited THIS LONG to send such a thing. everyone in the community has known about it for ages.

Community, yes. Hasbro legal department might have learned just now.


I honestly can't imagine why it happened now as opposed to any other time, particularly given the publicity. And, at this point, I'm not interested in speculating. I hope they reach someone at Hasbro with whom they could negotiate because just ending the project due to a stupid letter seems like a wasted opportunity for both Hasbro and Mane 6.

You know, it's kinda weird to hear you say Apple has ironclad case patenting rectangles and photoshopping competing products in court, then be sad when company that really stands something to lose has to send C&D letter, or risk being sued / losing their flagship product.

To me, first is still a travesty of patenting product, the second merely a sad consequence of dead end US legal system created. It's pretty much the same cause as why some companies that don't want to put DRM into their games - because US legal system forces them to or stand trial, so they err on the side of caution.

Oh well, I think I will play unfinished copy of Fighting is Magic today in memoriam :smallfrown:


I don't say this lightly, but if they can't do anything else, I think they should ignore it.

Statutory damages on one violation of copyright law max at $150,000 and, given what the documentary raised, I'm pretty sure a Fighting is Magic Kickstarter would break that amount. And once it's released into the wild, it can never be destroyed.

That assumes Kickstarter won't instantly shut down the whole thing once Hasbro sends them C&D letter, too. Plus, even is they won't, at this point it will be selling infringed product and Hasbro can demand, say, twice the project's profit (that is, twice the sum they raised) in court as punitive damage, IIRC.


They could alternately finish it, leak it and instantly dissolve the corporation, blaming 'hackers' for the breach before fading into the walls. Since it's free software then there's no revenue stream to trace and no corporation to sue.

Funny thing is, ever heard of guy who wrote RSS and Reddit? He tried to open scientific database that was nominally free to everyone. He did not publish the materials he pried from it, the database owner agreed to drop the case...

And it would be that, if US software protection laws that were lobbied to the point of being harsher than anti-drugs laws kick-started criminal case against him, with pretty much certain 35 years in prison and a $1 million fine hanging over his head. He didn't even leaked the data, no revenue stream, no corporation to trace. Guess what the end of story was (http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report_rss-creator-aaron-swartz-ends-life-by-hanging-self-at-26_1788432)?

Aotrs Commander
2013-02-09, 07:02 AM
To be fair, the system worked fine right up until the internet was invented. Then the first decade was spent as the province of a minute handful of nerds, the second was spent on oppression and lawsuits, and only now are we entering the days of mainstream internet power were the sheer inapplicability of the old laws creates an ongoing crapstorm of horrible situations.

The fact that a fix is not currently in the works is a dismal failure, but public pressure is building against some ancient and entrenched vested interests. It's a sad fact that the only way for a system to change is generational revolution - or, waiting for the Wrong Old People to die off - but I kind of like that way more than the proposed alternative of 'murder everyone, reap their souls'.

The other solution is to make twenty billion shadow clones of myself to stand in the near-ethereal plane and put every single person on the entire planet under my permenant personal surviellance, rendering it utterly impossible to do anything criminal or perform any other practises I consider so. Heck, I've actually toyed with the idea of killing the entire planet, spirit-binding the whole populace, and then making them run them under my control in the manner in which the world should work.

My continuing exposure the the collective Stupid of humanity is not driving me off the deep end, it's accelerating towards it at maximum FTL speeds. This is including the enormous drag factor of Pony and all the other things I do. It's having less and less effect.

There is now literally nowhere; NOWHERE that the stench of human mean-spiritedness and incompetance doesn't permeate; not pony, not Pokemon, not cartoons, not anime, not games, not movies; not even the fragging church pantomime is a safe from it's pall. The brightest fires are long-since guttering and fading, and when it finally goes dark... then.. then it's my game, and the darkness itself will shudder in fear.

There are some days when I begin to think Davros had it right with his Reality Bomb - wipe out all of Reality down to the last everything and start again.
Those days are becoming more and more frequent.

Thanqol
2013-02-09, 07:09 AM
The other solution is to make twenty billion shadow clones of myself to stand in the near-ethereal plane and put every single person on the entire planet under my permenant personal surviellance, rendering it utterly impossible to do anything criminal or perform any other practises I consider so. Heck, I've actually toyed with the idea of killing the entire planet, spirit-binding the whole populace, and then making them run them under my control in the manner in which the world should work.

My continuing exposure the the collective Stupid of humanity is not driving me off the deep end, it's accelerating towards it at maximum FTL speeds. This is including the enormous drag factor of Pony and all the other things I do. It's having less and less effect.

But there is now literally nowhere; NOWHERE that the stench of human mean-spiritedness and incompetance doesn't permeate; not pony, not Pokemon, not cartoons, not anime, not games, not movies; not even the fragging church pantomime is a safe form it's pall. The brightest fires are long-since guttering and fading, and when it finally goes dark... then.. then it's my game, and the darkness itself will shudder in fear.

You say that, like the world is on some kind of downwards spiral.

But a hundred years ago women weren't allowed to vote. A hundred years before then blacks weren't allowed to vote. A hundred years before then and no one was allowed to vote. A hundred years before then most people couldn't even own property.

Big picture, man. As an immortal you should be able to see that.

Deadly
2013-02-09, 07:19 AM
So sad about the Fighting is Magic thing. If I had any respect for Hasbro it would be dropping to zero. I guess it's going into negative by now


Wait, am I correct in thinking there are actually two episodes tomorrow? Or have I mixed up my dates?


One episode tomorrow, and then the season finale on the 16th.

I'm a little confused myself, but if I've been able to figure this out right, the season finale officially airs next week but is going to be shown at the Coronation Concert today. Which is a select audience or something, I'm sure. Which pisses me off, I hate when they do that :smallfurious:

Trixie
2013-02-09, 07:24 AM
Are video game copyrights different from TV shows? Or, does it matter here? Reason I ask is because abridged series suffer no (serious) repercussions from what they do. It's the same effect basically. Using the copyrighted material as fair use without making money should be able to be done by anyone.

Abridged series use parody/review fair use clause and even they tend to be shut down from time to time. But, the most important difference is, no one considers them a new product potentially threatening your trademark.


On a random question; The songs can't be taken off youtube because they are original (kinda) and use fanart instead of clips from the show. Correct?

If the fanart features characters Hasbro owns, yes, they can easily take them down on moments notice, it's just no one bothers. See their C&D letters to plushy makers they considered problematic, same thing.


Then what's the difference between a person making a drawing, or an animation, or direct music (taking a song directly from the show and remixing it or whatever), and someone making a video game (free) off that same IP?

None, it's just the first category is too small to be noticed, FiM was a big project that could potentially bring a lot of negative publicity if exploited by third parties, by both damaging the brand or being much more convincing case Hasbro doesn't protect its trademarks than a single picture/song, is my understanding.


To be fair, the system worked fine right up until the internet was invented.

Not really, no.

Aotrs Commander
2013-02-09, 07:30 AM
Big picture, man. As an immortal you should be able to see that.

The big picture is that whatever humanity does, it will always find new ways to suck, and it couldn't collectively be relied upon to organise anything without finding a way to do so that can be manipulated by some idiot to do something utterly stupid for their own ends.

The larger population because they don't murder each other quite so much merely means there are more people to be miserable at.

So yeah, it IS on a downward spiral and it's spiralling faster and faster; the last couple of years especially so.

I would rant further, but in order to do so, I'd have to enter forbidden topic territory, so I won't.

SlyGuyMcFly
2013-02-09, 07:33 AM
Really bummed about the Fighting is Magic deal. I wasn't going to play it, but it was an awesome idea and the fact that Hasbro was sorta seeming to turn a blind eye to it gave me hope. Oh well. At least they can't touch the sound track. Uh... Right? Please tell me they can't take away my Rarity's Theme. Please?





But a hundred years ago women weren't allowed to vote. A hundred years before then blacks weren't allowed to vote. A hundred years before then and no one was allowed to vote. A hundred years before then most people couldn't even own property.

Hell, most people weren't even thought of as people, back then.


There is now literally nowhere; NOWHERE that the stench of human mean-spiritedness and incompetance doesn't permeate; not pony, not Pokemon, not cartoons, not anime, not games, not movies; not even the fragging church pantomime is a safe from it's pall. The brightest fires are long-since guttering and fading, and when it finally goes dark... then.. then it's my game, and the darkness itself will shudder in fear.

When I read things like these I'm invariably reminded of some Roman writer who's name I always forget, whining about how the young Romans these days drive their chariots too fast, are too loud and irresponisble and have no morals. I think Socrates had a similar rant, which is even funnier in some ways.

Trixie
2013-02-09, 07:46 AM
Too unique I'm sure. And I don't know how serious Faust is, but with needing to redo characters, move sets (because they are unique to each character), and backgrounds, there's no point in suggesting changing characters, they might as well start from scratch.

Faust said she did not mean ponies at all (https://twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/300099203311468544). So, still no pony fighting game, plus, to be honest, if they went ahead with this, the audience would be much smaller, only drawn by their and Faust's reputations.

And, eh, I spent a lot time looking on Faust concept art, and it wasn't all that hot, really. Even MLP designs are IMHO good because Faust original design was heavily edited, I know I would be much more reluctant to give series a chance if original proposal was retained.


When I read things like these I'm invariably reminded of some Roman writer who's name I always forget, whining about how the young Romans these days drive their chariots too fast, are too loud and irresponisble and have no morals. I think Socrates had a similar rant, which is even funnier in some ways.

This (http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20130131.gif) http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg

And this (http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20130131after.gif) :P

Also, good take (http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20130205.gif) on Hasbro behaviour ^^

Deadly
2013-02-09, 08:53 AM
Uh, Twi, what are you looking at exactly?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jSiTxxD276c/URXtq1aHHhI/AAAAAAAAAmY/ODpu4DmHEGc/s640/Princess_Cadance_behind_me_S2E25.png

And for some reason that image reminded me how not a single stallion in the show is handsome or cute.

Thanqol
2013-02-09, 08:54 AM
And for some reason that image reminded me how not a single stallion in the show is handsome or cute.

Are you kidding?

Prince Blueblood is handsometastic. And also dreamy.

Deadly
2013-02-09, 08:56 AM
Are you kidding?

Prince Blueblood is handsometastic. And also dreamy.

According to Rarity, once upon a time, certainly. I have to assume that to a mare, or a stallion who swings that way, he is quite dreamy. I, however, don't see it :smalltongue:

Thanqol
2013-02-09, 09:02 AM
According to Rarity, once upon a time, certainly. I have to assume that to a mare, or a stallion who swings that way, he is quite dreamy. I, however, don't see it :smalltongue:

You don't see it?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mde3v75PGb1r3f4uoo2_1280.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwzuqlmbuA1r3f4uoo2_1280.gif

You need an eyediactrician.

DigoDragon
2013-02-09, 09:06 AM
New topic! We need six new ponies to fill up the FiM OC reboot!

I'm quite fond of my OC Ellie, a pegasus tinkerer with a prosthetic wing (She can only glide with it).



but by the end of the day Hasbro owns My Little Pony, not ponies in general.

True, as long as Mane6 can make it look and feel different enough, they could restart the project with OC characters.



Why you have not considered a cherry orchard is beyond me.

I'd vote for mangoes~ :smallbiggrin:
Mmmm....



http://www.drunkduck.com/Cobblestone_Street_or_My_Little_Pony_Meets_Sesame_ Street/5422971/
That was lame, Bert. But I can tolerate that since you made pinkie laugh.

Ernie you mean. Ernie is the jokester of the duo.



Hasbro is not our friend. Hasbro is our enemy, to be manipulated and circumvented by any means necessary. I bought season three via iTunes. I don't plan to buy season four, but you can bet that I'll be watching it.

No... I'm quite sure Hasbro is our friend. However, he's a friend who runs a delicate business that can't be playing favorites between us and his customers. He doesn't mind much if we do little fanworks on his ideas, but we can't play around with his stuff like we own it.
He's only following the same rules all our other friends do.

Deadly
2013-02-09, 09:08 AM
You don't see it?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mde3v75PGb1r3f4uoo2_1280.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwzuqlmbuA1r3f4uoo2_1280.gif

You need an eyediactrician.

The first one: Is that supposed to help me see?

Second one ... I s'pose if you replaced his head ...

Trixie
2013-02-09, 09:16 AM
And for some reason that image reminded me how not a single stallion in the show is handsome or cute.

I, however, don't see it :smalltongue:

Prepare to be shown evidence to the contrary! http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg


http://25.media.tumblr.com/520b5f5128c0e59304cfa22f06b2521a/tumblr_mg16mtdiv81r3f4uoo9_1280.gif

Eh, ninj'd...

Deadly
2013-02-09, 09:19 AM
Now this, however ...
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/040/d/2/twi_by_mamandil-d5u9shk.png (http://mamandil.deviantart.com/art/Twi-353176184)


Prepare to be shown evidence to the contrary! http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg


http://25.media.tumblr.com/520b5f5128c0e59304cfa22f06b2521a/tumblr_mg16mtdiv81r3f4uoo9_1280.gif

Eh, ninj'd...

:smalleek: That's ... not handsome, nor is it cute

DigoDragon
2013-02-09, 09:28 AM
Have an adorable pancreas-wounding Trixie:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/039/5/0/secret_santa__twixie_by_secret_pony-d5u9kf9.png (http://secret-pony.deviantart.com/art/Secret-Santa-Twixie-353165733)


Speaking of ponies, my daughter is watching some videos called "Ponies versus Decepticons" on Youtube. It's... interesting and kinda funny.
Dash nearly destroys another Starscream. :smallbiggrin:



Where there's a @%!#^! part 5/4 to still come!!!! ARGGHGHHGHGHGHGHGH! :smallfurious::smallfurious::smalltongue:

I feel your pain. Totally had that reaction too.
Though thanks to that series, I'm now wanting to actually PLAY the Phoenix Wright series.



Have we really reached such a nadir in overall pony fic quality that's all that's left?

Hey, my Weird West Trixie fanfic is pokemon free! :smallbiggrin:



And for some reason that image reminded me how not a single stallion in the show is handsome or cute.

I find Big Mac to be charmingly rustic. :smalltongue:
Fancy Pants' design is pretty cool too.

EsperDerek
2013-02-09, 09:28 AM
Look, here's the thing that happened with Fighting is Magic. Yes, yes, I know "But they worked two years on it and why did Hasbro close them now THOSE MEANNIESS WAAHHH", well, here's the reasons why it happened now:

a) Mane6 started treating themselves as a company rather than a group of fans: A *lot* of fangames fall into this trap. When the group making it starts taking themselves seriously, treating themselves like a company releasing a product even a not-for-profit product, then other companies start taking YOU seriously as well. As a competitor. And they WILL blow you the hell up if they feel you're stealing their IP.

b) Evolution Championship Series 2013: We all remember this, right? How FiM almost got voted in, even though that it wasn't finished? How they made a whole competition of beating Fighting is Magic in charitable donations? How every other game was a for profit game? Yeah. Corps take a blind eye to things because, contrary to public belief, most of them don't like to litigate. It costs money. It costs time. It can blow up in your face. It's bad publicity. But when you're suddenly thrust out into the spotlight like Fighting is Magic was because of EVO? You, as a company, have to take action.

c) Start of the Fiscal Year: What was the other big news for yesterday? Yeah. Hasbro presenting it's newest expansions in the toyline for this year. Yeah, exactly.

d) Fan Project Collapses: Generally companies, about this sort of thing, simply wait for the project to collapse, rather than doing anything about it. Most fan projects above 'fan art' and 'fan fiction' or a simple Flash game do collapse in seconds after they're formed. Again, most corporations these days don't want to litigate. It's a waste of time and money, and it traumatizes public relations.

So, uh...no one should be surprised that this happened.

Trixie
2013-02-09, 09:33 AM
:smalleek: That's ... not handsome, nor is it cute

He is the Discordamn fruitBatma... pony. How is that not handsome? http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg

Hey, my original choice pic was ninj'd. I work with what I have been given, sue me :P

Beacon of Chaos
2013-02-09, 09:34 AM
I suspect that the reason Fighting is Magic was taken down now rather than a year or two ago might be to do with people petitioning to get the game into EVO, which is a big fighting game tournament. It was posted on EqD, so naturally loads of bronies stepped up to make it happen (I believe it was to do with charity donations, which is good).

Of course, a lot of people weren't too happy about this, either because they weren't bronies, or were just hoping for another game to make the cut. It's possible one of them contacted Hasbro.


And for some reason that image reminded me how not a single stallion in the show is handsome or cute.
O RLY? (large image)
http://4chandata.org/images/threads/71851_1347141172990.png

Thanqol
2013-02-09, 09:38 AM
So, uh...no one should be surprised that this happened.

Yeah, you're right, I always felt that they were playing way too close to the sun in that respect. Of everyone that has troubles with Hasbro, it boils down into two categories: People who try to make money from Pony IP, or people who try to present themselves as professionals and part of a company. There is a lot of space under the radar, provided you don't try and stand too tall.

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-09, 09:43 AM
Of course, a lot of people weren't too happy about this, either because they weren't bronies, or were just hoping for another game to make the cut. It's possible one of them contacted Hasbro.


It doesn't really require active malice. Please don't speculate just to find a scapegoat.

Deadly
2013-02-09, 09:46 AM
O RLY? (large image)
http://4chandata.org/images/threads/71851_1347141172990.png

Well, Braeburn is okay ...

I take back what I said, though. Thunderlane is quite handsome.
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/142/f/a/i__m_a_hoody_thunderlane_by_frankier77-d50pb0b.jpg (http://frankier77.deviantart.com/art/I-m-a-Hoody-Thunderlane-303511547)

I stand by my assertion that most stallions, especially those with the more ... buff body types, are not at all handsome or cute. Shining Armor and Prince Blueblood just look kinda grotesque, really. Not as grotesque as Horse Power, of course, but still.

Trixie
2013-02-09, 09:50 AM
My plans for today just kind of got shot down, so here's a quick list I made of thread links that didn't make it to the original post.

Wait what? :smalleek:

I am pretty sure I copied proper, undamaged master post. How the heck did that happen?! Fix soon >_<


Have an adorable pancreas-wounding Trixie:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/039/5/0/secret_santa__twixie_by_secret_pony-d5u9kf9.png (http://secret-pony.deviantart.com/art/Secret-Santa-Twixie-353165733)

AWWW >.<

erikun
2013-02-09, 09:52 AM
Faust said she did not mean ponies at all (https://twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/300099203311468544). So, still no pony fighting game, plus, to be honest, if they went ahead with this, the audience would be much smaller, only drawn by their and Faust's reputations.
My Little Cephalopod: Friendship is Aquatic may be a reality? :smallbiggrin:
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/224/2/9/my_little_cephalopod__by_mimblex-d5avi2d.png (http://mimblex.deviantart.com/art/My-little-cephalopod-320596789)

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/225/7/e/my_little_cephalopod_by_alextrebek-d46gn56.png (http://alextrebek.deviantart.com/art/My-Little-Cephalopod-252718890)

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/231/c/7/derpy_nautiloid_by_brainbread-d475zbw.jpg (http://brainbread.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-Nautiloid-253901084)

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/233/9/2/twilight_sparkle_nautiloid_by_brainbread-d47dgwx.jpg (http://brainbread.deviantart.com/art/Twilight-Sparkle-Nautiloid-254250465)

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/233/f/0/pinkie_pie_nautiloid_by_brainbread-d47dgr1.jpg (http://brainbread.deviantart.com/art/Pinkie-Pie-Nautiloid-254250253)

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/346/0/6/celestia_nautiloid_plushie_by_brainbread-d5kg5m9.jpg (http://brainbread.deviantart.com/art/Celestia-Nautiloid-Plushie-336676977)

EsperDerek
2013-02-09, 09:58 AM
I stand by my assertion that most stallions, especially those with the more ... buff body types, are not at all handsome or cute. Shining Armor and Prince Blueblood just look kinda grotesque, really. Not as grotesque as Horse Power, of course, but still.

Disagree. I find Shining Armor is handsome as hell. I'd date him if I had the chance, definitely.

DigoDragon
2013-02-09, 10:11 AM
My Little Cephalopod: Friendship is Aquatic may be a reality? :smallbiggrin:

Bueno.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/09e71ab214a8b2be182eb04e029663be/tumblr_mg30m8U0YC1rpiqygo1_500.png

Deadly
2013-02-09, 10:15 AM
Finally got comic #2 today, after weeks of waiting. I feel like I'm totally behind, what with #3 already being talked about. Anyway
Pony skulls? I don't think we'd ever see that in the show

Also ... love toys :smallbiggrin:

It feels rather different than the show, but it's quite funny, and I love adventure.


Disagree. I find Shining Armor is handsome as hell. I'd date him if I had the chance, definitely.

I guess we can't all have the same tastes :smallsmile:

Thanqol
2013-02-09, 10:15 AM
Disagree. I find Shining Armor is handsome as hell. I'd date him if I had the chance, definitely.

Situations in which Thanqol would date a male:

- Intelligent, attractive and compassionate young man of Arabian descent
- Abusive and arrogant white horse

My brain is weird.

EsperDerek
2013-02-09, 10:18 AM
I guess we can't all have the same tastes :smallsmile:

Tis why it is a joyous world. We can all have different desires on male talking pastel ponies and be right. :smallsmile:

zimmerwald1915
2013-02-09, 10:21 AM
Disagree. I find Shining Armor is handsome as hell. I'd date him if I had the chance, definitely.
Homewrecker!

Sorry, sensitive subject.

Treating the subject seriously for a moment, there are nineteen stallions among the main and supporting cast, including designated antagonists. Of those, four are colts and one is a baby, which preclude their being both attractive and non-creepy. Carrot Cake, Filthy Rich, and Shining Armor are married (Filthy Rich and Diamond Tiara's mother may have split up, as we've never seen her onscreen, but there's no reason to suppose this is the case), and both Fancypants and Jet Set are in relationships (ymmv), which means they were attractive to somepony at some time in some way. The single stallions include: Big McIntosh, Braeburn, Flam, Flim, Hoity Toity, Joe, Prince Blueblood, and Thunderlane, of which three so far have been called out as being attractive to somebody. I suppose King Sombra should be mentioned somewhere, though as he's dead (ymmv) there isn't much point in discussing whether he's attractive or not.

Kairaven
2013-02-09, 10:21 AM
Disagree. I find Shining Armor is handsome as hell. I'd date him if I had the chance, definitely.

Bad Midnight! He's your uncle!

EsperDerek
2013-02-09, 10:30 AM
Homewrecker!

Sorry, sensitive subject.

I said if I had the chance!

Besides, if Cadance wanted to join in, the more the merrier!


Bad Midnight! He's your uncle!

I won't tell you my opinions on Twilight and Trixie, then. XD

TheAmishPirate
2013-02-09, 10:41 AM
I said if I had the chance!

Besides, if Cadance wanted to join in, the more the merrier!



I won't tell you my opinions on Twilight and Trixie, then. XD

I have to seriously question my life when a post like this makes me sigh wistfully, and think, "Oh ponythread; will you ever change?"

Gamerlord
2013-02-09, 10:43 AM
New Episode So Far
So apparently the world of Equestria has vacuum cleaners...
So, uh, where is Shining Armor? Managing the guard in Canterlot? :smallconfused:
More New Episode:
Well, that explains where Shiny was. :smalltongue:

Final Thoughts
Well, that was a nice episode. While it's a shame it wasn't the surprise Rarity episode I was hoping it would be, I can't really think of any complaints I have with the episode, besides Pinkie being a bit too over the top.

DigoDragon
2013-02-09, 10:43 AM
Season 3 Finale Spoiler
Ooooh, just saw a clip on TV for it. Rarity with Dash's cutie mark and it looked like Pinkie got Aj's mark. That looks like it'll be fun!

Deadly
2013-02-09, 11:01 AM
Games Ponies Play, First Thoughts and Notes
Seemed like a nice episode. I think I liked it, but of course, as usual I'll save my final verdict until I've watched it again, without lag and stupid ads (seriously, how many times must I watch the same ad?)

***

Interesting way to do those two episodes

Rainbow Dad! Still not terribly fond of his design, but oh well

And teasers for next saturday in the ads ... Not sure it's the moment I've been waiting for, though ... aside from all this bother being over at last, I'm definitely waiting for THAT

Written by Dave Polsky. He's got quite a few this season, hasn't he?

Um, AJ, watch where you stick that hoof ... that's a little personal o.O

Only Rarity is qualified to follow precise instructions. Yup

That sure is a harsh whinny

Wrong pony, right? Calling it now

Yup, wrong pony

I love her mane .. she should keep it like that ^^

Weeee, nice welcome

Twilight's been taking calming lessons, I see

Porcupine! :D

I need to get an ad blocker, seriously

Wow, something's seriously wrong with that "games inspector"

Nooooo, indeed, Pinkie

Smoozees? Smooz... Oh dear o.O

Ohh, another little reference back to last episode. That's actually really cool

DigoDragon
2013-02-09, 11:03 AM
Games Ponies Play Spoiler Thoughts--
Dash splattering on the spa roof and sliding off was by far my favorite part. Hilarious! Second place was Shining's face when the country pony was talking about meeting a prince.
That was a face. :smallbiggrin:

Nice detail that when the Crystal Ponies cheered at the end, their joy powered up the Crystal Heart there. I like little consistencies such as that.

Not a bad episode overall. Jives well alongside Just for Sidekicks (which was more fun in my opinion).

otakuryoga
2013-02-09, 11:06 AM
1st thoughts on Games
Perspective Shift!

Pinkie yelling Nooooooooo!!!!!---yeah that will be a gif by end of the day

way to go Dash--Jerk!

yay..my fave crystal pony polishing the heart

crystal Bonbon!

winged horseshoes for the messenger

not miss harshwhinney

....and THERES miss harshwhinney

whoa! Epic Fail there Rarity

bump tcah again

claustrophobic i am guessing?

ok, that sigh/hoofwave thing is getting annoying Twi

hmmm, now i gotta go back and see if Twi did the sigh/hoofwave thing on the train in sidekicks

Deadly
2013-02-09, 11:09 AM
Found a nice little Scootaloo and Dash non-spoiler comic, here's the first page of 6 (http://latecustomer.deviantart.com/art/Dreams-and-Reality-Page-1-Commission-353240915)

Admiral Squish
2013-02-09, 11:09 AM
New Episode:
I just noticed how when the games were announced to be in the Crystal Empire, the crystal heart responded and did it's 'spread happiness' thing. That would indicate that the rest of equestria HAS to keep the crystal empire happy, no matter what. Every time the crystal empire is disappointed, the emotion spreads all across equestria, making everyone just a little less cheery. They essentially hold the general happiness of the entire country in their hooves. They don't even have control over it, really, since the heart seems to respond without prompting. If the crystal empire is hungry, the rest of equestria needs to give them food or the entire land suffers. What if the crystal empire is so rich just because the rest of the world knows you need to keep them happy or suffer the consequences?

otakuryoga
2013-02-09, 11:16 AM
New Episode:
I just noticed how when the games were announced to be in the Crystal Empire, the crystal heart responded and did it's 'spread happiness' thing. That would indicate that the rest of equestria HAS to keep the crystal empire happy, no matter what. Every time the crystal empire is disappointed, the emotion spreads all across equestria, making everyone just a little less cheery. They essentially hold the general happiness of the entire country in their hooves. They don't even have control over it, really, since the heart seems to respond without prompting. If the crystal empire is hungry, the rest of equestria needs to give them food or the entire land suffers. What if the crystal empire is so rich just because the rest of the world knows you need to keep them happy or suffer the consequences?
it's good to be the Crystal Queen(or King..just ask Sombra)

Alabenson
2013-02-09, 11:17 AM
Read the news about the C&D. Really, REALLY pissed off about it.

I've sort of come to the realization that my idea that Hasbro was interested in being a partner with this fandom was, from the start, painfully naive. Hasbro doesn't want to foster the brony community, Hasbro wants to control the brony community. Huge difference.

Hasbro is not our friend. Hasbro is our enemy, to be manipulated and circumvented by any means necessary. I bought season three via iTunes. I don't plan to buy season four, but you can bet that I'll be watching it.

I don't totally agree with your assessment.
Hasbro isn't a friend to the fandom, but it isn't really our enemy either. I think of Hasbro as a big, dumb, lumbering animal. While it certainly isn't trying to help the fandom, it isn't actively trying to harm it either, but every so often it's going to step on part of the fandom when it get's too close to Hasbro's copyrights.


Hey, my Weird West Trixie fanfic is pokemon free! :smallbiggrin:

I'm guessing the "good" lich's issue is with the inclusion of humans, not the pokemon themselves.

otakuryoga
2013-02-09, 11:22 AM
1st thoughts on Games

hmmm, now i gotta go back and see if Twi did the sigh/hoofwave thing on the train in sidekicks
and no..she did not..thats a little bit they didnt keep consistent :smallfrown:

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-09, 11:28 AM
and no..she did not..thats a little bit they didnt keep consistent :smallfrown:

Its not recycled footage though so it might still have happened between angles. But yeah.

t209
2013-02-09, 11:46 AM
I kinda missed the new episode (overslept due to head ache).
What other sports they should have? Blood Bowl, Hunger Games, or Roller Ball (G rated would be okay too).

Kd7sov
2013-02-09, 11:51 AM
Final Thoughts
Well, that was a nice episode. While it's a shame it wasn't the surprise Rarity episode I was hoping it would be, I can't really think of any complaints I have with the episode, besides Pinkie being a bit too over the top.

Not a spoiler:
Pinkie is always over the top.

Actual spoilers:
Lighten up, Dash.

I am rather surprised that Twilight's "not worried" thing actually worked. But gratified; she needs some way to keep out of another It's About Time, especially given next week.

One Tin Soldier
2013-02-09, 11:51 AM
I feel your pain. Totally had that reaction too.
Though thanks to that series, I'm now wanting to actually PLAY the Phoenix Wright series.

I find Big Mac to be charmingly rustic. :smalltongue:
Fancy Pants' design is pretty cool too.

You should absolutely play Pheonix Wright. The games play out pretty much exactly the way that Turnabout Storm does. And it's great.

As for handsome stallions, I'd like to suggest...


Well, Braeburn is okay ...

I take back what I said, though. Thunderlane is quite handsome.
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/142/f/a/i__m_a_hoody_thunderlane_by_frankier77-d50pb0b.jpg (http://frankier77.deviantart.com/art/I-m-a-Hoody-Thunderlane-303511547)

I stand by my assertion that most stallions, especially those with the more ... buff body types, are not at all handsome or cute. Shining Armor and Prince Blueblood just look kinda grotesque, really. Not as grotesque as Horse Power, of course, but still.

Thunderlane. Yes. That one.

I actually like Thunderlane a lot, much more than I have any legitimate reason to. Though it might be because I named one of my X-COM soldiers after him and he turned out to be completely awesome.


Games Ponies Play Spoiler Thoughts--
Dash splattering on the spa roof and sliding off was by far my favorite part. Hilarious! Second place was Shining's face when the country pony was talking about meeting a prince.
That was a face. :smallbiggrin:

Nice detail that when the Crystal Ponies cheered at the end, their joy powered up the Crystal Heart there. I like little consistencies such as that.

Not a bad episode overall. Jives well alongside Just for Sidekicks (which was more fun in my opinion).

New Episode
Dash sliding off the spa roof was my favorite moment too.

So Shining Armor seems to be doing the full time Prince deal now. With a side of training the Crystal Empire athletes. I guess this means some other lucky pony got promoted to Captain of the Royal Guard? I can't imagine that he's keeping that job while living halfway across the country.

DigoDragon
2013-02-09, 12:13 PM
New Episode:
That would indicate that the rest of equestria HAS to keep the crystal empire happy, no matter what.

and no..she did not..thats a little bit they didnt keep consistent :smallfrown:

I kinda missed the new episode (overslept due to head ache).
What other sports they should have? Blood Bowl, Hunger Games, or Roller Ball (G rated would be okay too).

So Shining Armor seems to be doing the full time Prince deal now. With a side of training the Crystal Empire athletes. I guess this means some other lucky pony got promoted to Captain of the Royal Guard? I can't imagine that he's keeping that job while living halfway across the country.

Games Ponies Play Episode Spoiler Stuff--
1. I dunno if they have to keep them THAT happy. I think they can get by on just not enslaving the poor ponies under an iron hoof. Now, if instead keeping the empire happy means the rest of Equestria is getting it's "Happy Fix", then we have a different kind of issue. :smallwink:

2. If you want the complete frown, they also skipped AJ's mention of her "Dogs Barkin'".

3. Wife Javelin Toss would be fun.

4. I'd assume someone in the royal guard gets the promotion so that Celestia doesn't have to pay Shining for travel expenses.



I'm guessing the "good" lich's issue is with the inclusion of humans, not the pokemon themselves.

Oh. Well I don't have any of those either. :smallbiggrin:

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-09, 12:27 PM
Why you have not considered a cherry orchard is beyond me.
Because Applejack worked at a cherry orchard in one episode. Part of making Original the Characters is being as far away from the source as possible.


There's considerable money and goodwill to be had here if both sides actually got together and negotiated.
You gotta share! You gotta care! It's the right thing to do!

Another false rumor that would be really easy to start rolling around the entire internet is that the reason why the C&D happened now is that Hasbro might have secretly recently signed a contract with an official video game company and is actually producing some sort of official competitive pony video game. That actually would nicely explain everything. :smalltongue:


http://media.tumblr.com/3f8792d1257b1a93430e6cc1e80cbae9/tumblr_inline_mhxr8jgcpC1qz4rgp.png

Welp.
Don't... Know... If... Trolling...


I think the most remarkable thing I learned from that process is that Hasbro doesn't have a department that goes around taking things offline. Instead you've got what is basically a call centre full of dudes who watch videos all day, every day, and these are just average schmoes without much legal understanding. They flag stuff and it automatically enters Youtube's system. Lawyers and cackling corporations are not actually involved at any point.
The thing that's funny to me, is that, ignoring Hasbro for a moment, YouTube's copyright reporting system errs on the copyright holder. I had to contest a violation claimed by Disney on one of my videos a few days ago. It's a delicious contrast between this situation and the situation prior involving the documentary.


And for some reason that image reminded me how not a single stallion in the show is handsome or cute.
http://i.imgur.com/gEfq6.png Nnnope.


Wait what? :smalleek:

I am pretty sure I copied proper, undamaged master post. How the heck did that happen?! Fix soon >_<
I realized a while back that the last few threads were missing some of the more recent threads. I think we're still missing a few in this thread, but I know at one point I somehow managed to start going in circles.

Oh rats, I slept in past another new episode, didn't I? :smallmad:

otakuryoga
2013-02-09, 12:43 PM
is it just me or does anyone else think it would have worked better to do this episode(with random happenings like the luggage avalanche and bark when AJ sits down) and then sidekicks?(which would explain those random bits)
just woulda had to add the 3 seconds of AJ sitting down and hearing winona to make full use of that bit


Its not recycled footage though so it might still have happened between angles. But yeah.
but we heard the question that led to her line about "if he is keeping his head"(or whatever it was)
in sidekicks there is no sigh before the answer..in this one we have the sigh

so even if they didnt show it in sidekicks we should have heard the sigh..and in sidekicks they showed her bringing her hoof up from the ground at that point..not pushing it out from chest

otherwise they stayed pretty consistent


Games Ponies Play Episode Spoiler Stuff--

2. If you want the complete frown, they also skipped AJ's mention of her "Dogs Barkin'".



not inconsistent..they joined the scene just after AJ said "whew, they really are barkin" based on her pose and Rarity's expression

Aotrs Commander
2013-02-09, 01:14 PM
New episode:
Okay, first off, Twilght, you are forgiven for last episode, since this clearly was, as we had speculated, the setting up, rather than the actual games, and thus leaving Spike was reasonably justified.

Also, framing this episode with last episode was clever.

Sadly, the old mistaken identity plot was a bit tired, even when fairly well exectuted as here. It was way too obvious from the get-go (I even paused to check that it wasn't Colgate that was the inspector when that one first showed up), and I found that rather detracted from everything, as I simply found I was waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Cadance's hair subplot was more engaging.

Nice to see Shiny and Cadance again (and seeing Shiny doing his best drill sergeant impression. Guess coaching is not a bad substitute for being in charge of the guards - as we didn't seem to see any (maybe they don't have any in the Crystal Empire?)

Rarity stole the show here, but Cadance gets a solid second for reminding Twilight how to keep calm. Also Pinkie.

Not a bad episode, but more for the interaction of the characters than the plot.

Oh yes, Rainbow had parents. Dammit, I guess Winning Pony is now officially AU, since I'm pretty sure that was a male she was perched on. (Well, I suppose one could rationalise older brother...)


Now back to see what everyone else thought.



Edit: Well, not much to discuss, this time, then, really...


Games Ponies Play Spoiler Thoughts--
Nice detail that when the Crystal Ponies cheered at the end, their joy powered up the Crystal Heart there. I like little consistencies such as that.

Oh yes, that was nicely done.

Dirtytabs
2013-02-09, 01:29 PM
Hey, the first post image is the same as the last thread's.

Today's episodeThat was an uncomfortable 10 minutes to watch, just waiting for the lady to say she wasn't the inspector. Also, the Crystal Empire should be the host every time so the ponies can power the crystal heart and spread the happiness over Equestria. :smallbiggrin:

Edit: Hang on, are you guys sure the pony Rainbow Dash was standing on was her father, and not, say an older sibling?

Aotrs Commander
2013-02-09, 01:35 PM
Today's episodeEdit: Hang on, are you guys sure the pony Rainbow Dash was standing on was her father, and not, say an older sibling?

I believe I mentioned that possibility.

DigoDragon
2013-02-09, 01:39 PM
Edit: Hang on, are you guys sure the pony Rainbow Dash was standing on was her father, and not, say an older sibling?[/SPOILER]

Dunno
But I'd buy him being dad more than an older sibling. Just seems to jive better in my mind.

MCerberus
2013-02-09, 01:40 PM
I believe I mentioned that possibility.

Which begs the question:
Rainbow Dad
or Rainbro Dash

Deadly
2013-02-09, 01:44 PM
Edit: Hang on, are you guys sure the pony Rainbow Dash was standing on was her father, and not, say an older sibling?

Not technically impossible, I suppose, but it seems more natural to assume it's her father. Also I hope that's the case, because her having a brother (or other sibling ) would ruin one of my favorite headcanons

zimmerwald1915
2013-02-09, 01:58 PM
Because Applejack worked at a cherry orchard in one episode. Part of making Original the Characters is being as far away from the source as possible.
It's worth it for the Chekov reference, darn it!

Dirtytabs
2013-02-09, 02:01 PM
I believe I mentioned that possibility.
Oh, well, erm. Let me get to reading the first four pages. :smallredface:


Which begs the question:
Rainbow Dad
or Rainbro Dash
All right, him being her dad is more likely. Just throwing that out there. Which was in the post right above mine darnit I should read those first.

It would kind of suck if his name were Rainbow Dad. When he was born, his parents said, "Our foal's going to be a father, and we'll make sure of it."

MCerberus
2013-02-09, 02:18 PM
Oh, well, erm. Let me get to reading the first four pages. :smallredface:


All right, him being her dad is more likely. Just throwing that out there. Which was in the post right above mine darnit I should read those first.

It would kind of suck if his name were Rainbow Dad. When he was born, his parents said, "Our foal's going to be a father, and we'll make sure of it."

I don't think anyone thinks that his name is really either of the two options. Like Steroid pony was right after his first YAAAAAAAAH.

Although Pinkie's Pac-Man ghost sisters seem to have stuck

Also head-canon: Pinkie's father is named Clyde

Dirtytabs
2013-02-09, 02:32 PM
I don't think anyone thinks that his name is really either of the two options. Like Steroid pony was right after his first YAAAAAAAAH.

Although Pinkie's Pac-Man ghost sisters seem to have stuck

Also head-canon: Pinkie's father is named Clyde

I'm not arguing that it really is or should be, just musing. It's a great nickname and I'm going to call him "Rainbow Dad" from now on, unless he gets a canonical name. Seems the name "Snowflake" for that one is the most popular for the big white one. Or I would like it to be.

thubby
2013-02-09, 02:34 PM
my only meaningful thoughts on the episode
flying inside a train is a terrible, terrible idea

Pendulous
2013-02-09, 02:35 PM
New episode as I go:

Hmm, reused footage. Interesting. Almost made me think I was watching the wrong episode.

I know a flu outbreak is rather common, and it's a small line in passing, but still rather topical for a show that is written nine months before air.

Let me guess, that's not the inspector.

Yep, I was right.

Rainbow Dash can't catch a random pony running, blind, and gets tired after it. Uh-huh....

Well, I don't think there's any doubt now. Cadence and Shining Armor, leaders of the Crystal Empire.

You know, the show is supposed to be able to be viewed out of order. At least, that's what I read at some point. I think Baby Cakes was one episode that proved that to not be true. Because we see them in a later episode. Today's episode further proves that, since it works directly with another. And the season finale will make that even more apparent.

thubby
2013-02-09, 02:41 PM
New episode as I go:

Hmm, reused footage. Interesting. Almost made me think I was watching the wrong episode.

I know a flu outbreak is rather common, and it's a small line in passing, but still rather topical for a show that is written nine months before air.

Let me guess, that's not the inspector.

Yep, I was right.

Rainbow Dash can't catch a random pony running, blind, and gets tired after it. Uh-huh....

Well, I don't think there's any doubt now. Cadence and Shining Armor, leaders of the Crystal Empire.

You know, the show is supposed to be able to be viewed out of order. At least, that's what I read at some point. I think Baby Cakes was one episode that proved that to not be true. Because we see them in a later episode. Today's episode further proves that, since it works directly with another. And the season finale will make that even more apparent.

yes and no. the show obviously has continuity, but episodes that demand previous knowledge are the clear exception.

Mando Knight
2013-02-09, 02:56 PM
You know, the show is supposed to be able to be viewed out of order. At least, that's what I read at some point. I think Baby Cakes was one episode that proved that to not be true. Because we see them in a later episode. Today's episode further proves that, since it works directly with another. And the season finale will make that even more apparent.

Star Trek in general is fairly similar in that regard, and I think it's what they're shooting for: you can watch most episodes out of order and not get too confused, but watching them in order gives them a little extra context. Go ahead, watch episodes of TNG or Voyager at random to see what I mean.

Also...
The Not-Inspector pony seems to be agoraphobic, but runs outside to deal with it. What.

Theoboldi
2013-02-09, 02:59 PM
So, new episode.


It was nice. Honestly, I prefered last week's, but rainbow crashing into the spa's roof was pretty hilarious. Otherwise I felt it was a bit bland, though never really boring. I liked the little continuity things. Also, Shining Armor's hat looked really silly.


That said, the previews for the season finale we got to see during the commercial breaks were pretty interesting. I hope they don't try to press too much stuff into it this time, though. Things felt rushed enough when they had two episodes to work with.

Pendulous
2013-02-09, 03:04 PM
Also...
The Not-Inspector pony seems to be agoraphobic, but runs outside to deal with it. What.

She's claustrophobic. And I would say an extreme case, because those rooms inside the castle are HUGE. But seeing the ceiling spinning, needing to "stretch her legs", it seems like a definite case.

Mando Knight
2013-02-09, 03:09 PM
She's claustrophobic. And I would say an extreme case, because those rooms inside the castle are HUGE. But seeing the ceiling spinning, needing to "stretch her legs", it seems like a definite case.

...So it seems, now that I'm farther through the episode (episodes revolving around inevitable comeuppances that I can see from a lightyear away always take me longer to get through). The most extreme case I've ever seen...

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-09, 03:22 PM
yes and no. the show obviously has continuity, but episodes that demand previous knowledge are the clear exception.

Definitely the exception, limited to what Luna Eclipsed, Magic Duel, and KCaFO really. Sure other times seeing other episodes helps, but it isn't demanded you know.

And trying to make a coherent timeline is highly interpretative. From midsummer to winter, to fall, yet Spike celebrates his first birthday in Ponyville in season 2. And that's not counting fun details like the Gala dresses visible before Suited for Success, and how long was the gala in coming anyways. I think any attempts to order things are inherently flawed and wonky, demanding season mixing among other things.

That said there's some clear spiritual continuity as the writing has evolved.

Mando Knight
2013-02-09, 03:29 PM
And trying to make a coherent timeline is highly interpretative. From midsummer to winter, to fall, yet Spike celebrates his first birthday in Ponyville in season 2. And that's not counting fun details like the Gala dresses visible before Suited for Success, and how long was the gala in coming anyways. I think any attempts to order things are inherently flawed and wonky, demanding season mixing among other things.

That said there's some clear spiritual continuity as the writing has evolved.

I think we can have David Tennant explain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY_Ry8J_jdw).

Raz_Fox
2013-02-09, 03:33 PM
On the episode:

I think I'll start doing that calming thing.

I really enjoyed this, and thought Rainbow came off really well. Will probably rewatch it later, and recommend to siblings as a Good Episode.

Did I mention the calming thing? And Cadence being a really good princess. And Rainbow Dash taking responsibility.

Man, that was fun.



Situations in which Thanqol would date a male:

- Intelligent, attractive and compassionate young man

Well, as it so happens, I-


of Arabian descent

Oh. Um. Well.

I mean, of course I'm Arabian. Harems and genies are part of my cultural heritage.


- Abusive and arrogant white horse

...as it so happens, I am also a white horse. What a coincidence.




Tis why it is a joyous world. We can all have different desires on male talking pastel ponies and be right. :smallsmile:

Yep! Personally, I like Shining Armor and think he looks cool, but there is room in this world for people who think otherwise. Why, there's even room for people who think Celestia isn't best Princess!

(This place is Room 101 in the Ministry of Friendship.)

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-09, 03:36 PM
I think we can have David Tennant explain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY_Ry8J_jdw).

But there's only episode with time travel and its a stable time loop...

Pendulous
2013-02-09, 03:37 PM
On the episode:

I think I'll start doing that calming thing.

I really enjoyed this, and thought Rainbow came off really well. Will probably rewatch it later, and recommend to siblings as a Good Episode.

Did I mention the calming thing? And Cadence being a really good princess. And Rainbow Dash taking responsibility.

Man, that was fun.




Dash's "responsibility" only came from her competitive nature and regret. I wouldn't even call it that. I can't put my finger ion the word, but responsibility wasn't it.

BlasTech
2013-02-09, 03:45 PM
Found a nice little Scootaloo and Dash non-spoiler comic, here's the first page of 6 (http://latecustomer.deviantart.com/art/Dreams-and-Reality-Page-1-Commission-353240915)

That was a very very nice comic, hope the actual subject matter isn't the real reason, but if it is, that's a good way to overcome it.


New Episode:
I just noticed how when the games were announced to be in the Crystal Empire, the crystal heart responded and did it's 'spread happiness' thing. That would indicate that the rest of equestria HAS to keep the crystal empire happy, no matter what. Every time the crystal empire is disappointed, the emotion spreads all across equestria, making everyone just a little less cheery. They essentially hold the general happiness of the entire country in their hooves. They don't even have control over it, really, since the heart seems to respond without prompting. If the crystal empire is hungry, the rest of equestria needs to give them food or the entire land suffers. What if the crystal empire is so rich just because the rest of the world knows you need to keep them happy or suffer the consequences?

I had the complete opposite thought (GPP spoilers):

I was thinking; "Huh, does that thing explode every time there's a crowd of happy ponies nearby?"

Public Holiday today everypony! *Kablam*
Happy New Year! *Kablam*
15% off at Donut Joe's! *MEGAKABLAMOOOM*

And, courtesy of the IRC:

*Big world-covering explosion of light*

SA runs out onto the balcony: "HEY EVERYPONY! GUESS WHO JUST GOT LUCK-"

*Gets tossed off by his wife*



You should absolutely play Pheonix Wright. The games play out pretty much exactly the way that Turnabout Storm does. And it's great.


Yeah, actually, I totes want to play a Phoenix game now too, I'm just scared of getting it wrong though :smallfrown:

(Also, is it available on PC easily anywhere? I don't have a DS)

EDIT #2:

Recognise these ponies? (No spoilers)
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2013/040/b/8/pet_peeves_by_equestria_prevails-d5ucspv.png

Beacon of Chaos
2013-02-09, 03:51 PM
Spooooooilers.
I really liked this one. Not huge laugh out loud moments, but lots of little fun bits.

I really like that pony with the pale yellow coat and light green mane; I just can't put my hoof on why. :smallwink:

Dash splatting against the skylight and Rarity's face during it were both fantastic.

Yes, the "wrong pony" bit was predictable, so much so that I was convinced it was a double-bluff, and that she actually was the inspector. Ah well.

And now I'm off to go look for fanart for the new episode. Toodles.

Anarion
2013-02-09, 03:53 PM
New Episode
Okay, well, mark this down as another one of those episodes that would have been horrible if anyone else had done it, but the show staff pulled it off. The payoff wasn't quite as big as some of the better episodes, but after that 10 minutes of painful mistaken identity, it worked out and actually paid off for everypony. Hurray!

Sweet and Elite is still my favorite episode for actually pulling off the web of lies plot in a way that didn't lead to a giant collapse and a painful Aesop. This one pulled off the stupid mistaken identity plot in a way that worked out well, though I found it overall less engaging than Sweet and Elite (perhaps the lack of song or that Rainbow, as focus pony, didn't get as much character growth as Rarity did in Sweet and Elite).

I was also quite happy with Twilight managing to keep calm and not freak out. It's a great demo of her character growth up to this point and even makes me think that she's becoming mature and ready enough for the insanity that will be the next episode.

I'm assuming that pony in the beginning was Dash's father. I'm also a little weirded out that the mane 6 didn't leave earlier to get to the crystal empire. Even with the inspector's train being changed, why only leave yourself a few hours instead of being there a day in advance for something so important?





You know, it's kinda weird to hear you say Apple has ironclad case patenting rectangles and photoshopping competing products in court, then be sad when company that really stands something to lose has to send C&D letter, or risk being sued / losing their flagship product.

To me, first is still a travesty of patenting product, the second merely a sad consequence of dead end US legal system created. It's pretty much the same cause as why some companies that don't want to put DRM into their games - because US legal system forces them to or stand trial, so they err on the side of caution.


Different contexts. I agree with you that the world would be a better place if Apple couldn't patent a rectangle, but my analysis of what the law actually is comes out that their patent is reasonable, though hopefully too flimsy to litigate.

Here, my analysis of what the law is comes out that Hasbro probably has every right to shut down mane 6. However, I think it sucks and I wish they would negotiate around that because if private parties make an agreement, the law can be handled to respect that agreement in the vast majority of cases.




That assumes Kickstarter won't instantly shut down the whole thing once Hasbro sends them C&D letter, too. Plus, even is they won't, at this point it will be selling infringed product and Hasbro can demand, say, twice the project's profit (that is, twice the sum they raised) in court as punitive damage, IIRC.


There are no punitive damages in United States copyright. There are profits-based damages, but if Mane 6 raised $150,000 the profits damages would be equal to or less than that amount. Since they weren't planning on making money off their game, I really don't see any way that a lawsuit would be worth more than $150,000. Especially because the $150,000 is the max statutory damages for one instance of willful infringement, meaning you knew when you did it that it was wrong.

The crazy insane cases that made it into the news for millions were there because people sued under the theory that every song someone downloaded or uploaded on Bittorrent was a separate infringement, meaning they took $150,000 and multiplied by hundreds or thousands of songs. But Mane 6 have violated copyright one time, making one product.

Anyway, even if they couldn't use Kickstarter, they could just accept donations and pay taxes on the donations (since they're not a charitable organization). You can't stop people from freely giving money to other people unless they're doing something else illegal like buying drugs.


Really bummed about the Fighting is Magic deal. I wasn't going to play it, but it was an awesome idea and the fact that Hasbro was sorta seeming to turn a blind eye to it gave me hope. Oh well. At least they can't touch the sound track. Uh... Right? Please tell me they can't take away my Rarity's Theme. Please?


I recommend you download the files.




When I read things like these I'm invariably reminded of some Roman writer who's name I always forget, whining about how the young Romans these days drive their chariots too fast, are too loud and irresponisble and have no morals. I think Socrates had a similar rant, which is even funnier in some ways.

Socrates saved himself with Phaedo (the one right before his death, as Plato tells it) when he encouraged everyone to continue studying and not give up, even when things are hard.


Situations in which Thanqol would date a male:

- Intelligent, attractive and compassionate young man of Arabian descent
- Abusive and arrogant white horse

My brain is weird.

Who knew?



Oh. Um. Well.

I mean, of course I'm Arabian. Harems and genies are part of my cultural heritage.



...as it so happens, I am also a white horse. What a coincidence.

You're trying too hard. Don't make him think you're desperate. :smallwink:





Edit: As a general plea, please don't spread legal misinformation. You should notice the amount of times I use words like "probably" "likely" and so forth. Even when I mentioned the lack of punitive damages, I couched with "I don't see" meaning there might be some way that I missed to get the damages numbers above $150,000. These things are rarely cut and dry and courts have been known to change the rules when the facts of a particular case make the judge unhappy for one reason or another. Adding information about what you think the law requires or does not require that is just wrong spreads ignorance and may lead to people doing stupid things in the future.

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-09, 04:04 PM
Edit: As a general plea, please don't spread legal misinformation. You should notice the amount of times I use words like "probably" "likely" and so forth. Even when I mentioned the lack of punitive damages, I couched with "I don't see" meaning there might be some way that I missed to get the damages numbers above $150,000.
I really don't see what's hypothetically stopping someone from considering each download of the hypothetical game as a separate violation, just like the aforementioned crazy insane news cases with music and whatnot. I mean, outside of it being a crazy and insane claim, there's some form of flimsy precedent behind it, at least from a crazy insane layman's point of view.

Anarion
2013-02-09, 04:09 PM
I really don't see what's hypothetically stopping someone from considering each download of the hypothetical game as a separate violation, just like the aforementioned crazy insane news cases with music and whatnot. I mean, outside of it being a crazy and insane claim, there's some form of flimsy precedent behind it, at least from a crazy insane layman's point of view.

There's a case called Cablevision that addresses that. It related to on-demand television and it ruled that when you stick something on a server and each individual accesses it at their own time and place of their choice, that's on the individual, not on the guy sticking it on a server.

Edit: That is a super abbreviated summary, by the way. I'm going to edit again with the more nuanced version.

So, the case referred specifically to whether someone was making a public performance (i.e. broadcast) of the TV shows, and the answer was no, sticking them on the server for individuals to access on their own whenever was not a public performance. That said, each individual that was taking a copyrighted work was violating copyright, it's just that nobody wanted to track or sue these individuals because they were the TV customers and suing your customers is bad business.

Putting this in the mane 6 context, you have to think about what their actual violation of copyright is. They didn't literally copy anything Hasbro owns (they built their own art assets, even though they look like Hasbro ponies). What they've done is copy the Hasbro characters in a single game that infringes Hasbro's copyright in My Little Pony. So, the actual game is one thing and they haven't even made it available for download yet, so I only see one instance of infringement.

The download's aren't a separate thing because it's still the same infringing product. Making it available for download doesn't qualify as a public performance in my opinion and there's tons of precedent that stuff like people writing a song that is a copy of somebody else's song is a single copyright violation. Even in the Joel Tannenbam case (the guy that got sued for millions by the RIAA) they didn't make each download of the song a separate violation, only each individual song, of which he had over 30 iirc. If they had charged him for each download somebody had pulled off his system, the lawsuit would have been in the billions.

Oh, heh, there is a way to get it above $150,000, which occurred to me while I was writing the longer analysis. If instead of it being a violation of MLP's copyright, they instead did it as a violation of each of the separate character copyrights, they could get $1,005,000 ($150,000 per character, counting Angel Bunny). I'm not sure if that would actually fly though, I think a court would probably say that it's just copying My Little Pony and Hasbro splitting it up is an unfair cash grab.

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-09, 04:16 PM
Edit: That is a super abbreviated summary, by the way. I'm going to edit again with the more nuanced version.
Ah, I don't think you'll have to, I think the gist of it is enough. Though... That would open the gates for subpoenas for the IP Addresses of all the downloaders and... Well, someone would make bank out of it if they wanted to be really evil. Just not hypothetically off Mane 6. :smalleek:

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-09, 04:21 PM
Guys I'm know I'm definitely not normally the one to do this but could we turn off the IP law discussion?

Please?

Trixie
2013-02-09, 04:29 PM
Season 3 Finale Spoiler
Rarity with Dash's cutie mark

Does this mean...

Rainbow Dash dresses in style? http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg

MSPANC.

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-09, 04:32 PM
Guys I'm know I'm definitely not normally the one to do this but could we turn off the IP law discussion?

Please?
Well, my work won't let me go on GitP, so I think you'd get that from me even if you didn't ask. :smallsmile: I expect ponies when I come back, though.

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-09, 04:37 PM
Does this mean...

Rainbow Dash dresses in style? http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg

MSPANC.

Assuming that's the situation in play... yes. Yes it does.

SlyGuyMcFly
2013-02-09, 04:52 PM
I recommend you download the files.


I should probably go do that, yeah.

Kd7sov
2013-02-09, 04:55 PM
Yeah, actually, I totes want to play a Phoenix game now too, I'm just scared of getting it wrong though :smallfrown:

(Also, is it available on PC easily anywhere? I don't have a DS)

Getting it wrong? Do you mean something like getting a guilty verdict and accompanying Game Over?

And no, not legally. If you can read Japanese you might find GBA versions of the first three, but as far as I know there's never been any other port.

BlasTech
2013-02-09, 04:58 PM
Getting it wrong? Do you mean something like getting a guilty verdict and accompanying Game Over?

Dangit, I guess it'll have to wait till someone decides to release cross platform >>

And yea, the guilty thing. I'd be like "nuuuu I fail law™!"

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-09, 05:09 PM
Dangit, I guess it'll have to wait till someone decides to release cross platform >>
For whatever it's worth, the main three games are on WiiWare, and my understanding is that an iPhone port of those games is pending.

Pokonic
2013-02-09, 05:40 PM
So, episode:
Probably one of the better one's in season 3, if not the best on so far. Plenty of funny stuff to go around, and generaly well made as a whole. The false-inspector is going to end up being popular, without a doubt.:smallbiggrin:



EDIT #2:

Recognise these ponies? (No spoilers)
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2013/040/b/8/pet_peeves_by_equestria_prevails-d5ucspv.png

Angel, stop teasing Gummy. Stahp.

Also, owlgriffon.

Eakin
2013-02-09, 05:42 PM
For whatever it's worth, the main three games are on WiiWare, and my understanding is that an iPhone port of those games is pending.

There is an iPhone app version of at least the first game. Don't know about the others one way or another.

Anarion
2013-02-09, 05:44 PM
Dangit, I guess it'll have to wait till someone decides to release cross platform >>

And yea, the guilty thing. I'd be like "nuuuu I fail law™!"

It lets you try again. The games specifically divide up into sections so that if you fail utterly, you get to restart at that part of the trial (usually that witness or maybe one witness back). They're pretty tense at times, which is half the fun. The other half is actually shouting "Objection!" since it allows you to use your voice for that if you want.


For whatever it's worth, the main three games are on WiiWare, and my understanding is that an iPhone port of those games is pending.

The original game is out on iPhone already, just search it in the store.

In the meantime, have some Phoenix Wright ponies.
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8315/dashobjection.png
http://arch.413chan.net/Luna_Godot-%28n1310165925134%29.jpg
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/363/7/8/phoenix_wright_pony_by_nianara-d5plhm2.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UJAoCcc_dm0/TwbTm3KV_jI/AAAAAAAAAbM/R31ZxGDV6lE/s1600/98467+-+applejack+phoenix_wright.jpeg

BlasTech
2013-02-09, 05:52 PM
The original game is out on iPhone already, just search it in the store.


... *flees to buy*

Dave Halfbreed
2013-02-09, 05:59 PM
I watched this week's and last week's back to back, and I found this one a lot better. They both came off as fluff, but hilarious fluff, but this one didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth. It's nice to see Cadence and Shining Armor again, along with their relationship with Twilight

Beacon of Chaos
2013-02-09, 06:28 PM
New episode:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/f5a921c607ad969b142b5d179e24432c/tumblr_mhysu1qDky1r19504o1_500.gif
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMjFfNTJfMDlfNTE1XzIzODM5M1 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfYW5pbWF0ZWRfc3BvaWxlcl9zMDNlMTJf NTBmMTM4NjBhNGM3MmQ0OTE2MDAwZjc4XzUxMTY3ZTZhYTRjNz JkY2U5ZTAwMDcyZi5naWYuZ2lmIl1d/238393__safe_animated_spoiler-s03e12_50f13860a4c72d4916000f78_51167e6aa4c72dce9e 00072f.gif.gif
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMTlfMjhfNDZfMjc3XzIzODIzM1 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfY3V0ZV9zcG9pbGVyX3MwM2UxMl81MGYx Mzg2MGE0YzcyZDQ5MTYwMDBmNzhfNTExNjdlNmFhNGM3MmRjZT llMDAwNzJmLnBuZy5wbmciXV0/238233__safe_cute_spoiler-s03e12_50f13860a4c72d4916000f78_51167e6aa4c72dce9e 00072f.png.png

She has been named "Chickadee" and she is my pony waifu.

That is all.

Anarion
2013-02-09, 06:47 PM
New episode:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/f5a921c607ad969b142b5d179e24432c/tumblr_mhysu1qDky1r19504o1_500.gif
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMjFfNTJfMDlfNTE1XzIzODM5M1 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfYW5pbWF0ZWRfc3BvaWxlcl9zMDNlMTJf NTBmMTM4NjBhNGM3MmQ0OTE2MDAwZjc4XzUxMTY3ZTZhYTRjNz JkY2U5ZTAwMDcyZi5naWYuZ2lmIl1d/238393__safe_animated_spoiler-s03e12_50f13860a4c72d4916000f78_51167e6aa4c72dce9e 00072f.gif.gif
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMTlfMjhfNDZfMjc3XzIzODIzM1 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfY3V0ZV9zcG9pbGVyX3MwM2UxMl81MGYx Mzg2MGE0YzcyZDQ5MTYwMDBmNzhfNTExNjdlNmFhNGM3MmRjZT llMDAwNzJmLnBuZy5wbmciXV0/238233__safe_cute_spoiler-s03e12_50f13860a4c72d4916000f78_51167e6aa4c72dce9e 00072f.png.png

She has been named "Chickadee" and she is my pony waifu.

That is all.

That calls for a song. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mBa0civN5Y)

thubby
2013-02-09, 07:29 PM
That calls for a song. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mBa0civN5Y)

so...
a male voiced RD and a monkey are the joker and harley quinn falling in love and terrorizing the city.

exactly how much cocaine was involved in the conception of this idea?

Anarion
2013-02-09, 07:40 PM
so...
a male voiced RD and a monkey are the joker and harley quinn falling in love and terrorizing the city.

exactly how much cocaine was involved in the conception of this idea?

Your comment implies that you haven't watched Rainbow Dash Presents: My Little Dashie. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH1U87rNR7Q)

You should fix that.

Tectonic Robot
2013-02-09, 08:10 PM
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

You guys... you guys...

You guys named a thread Mmph!

Oh man. xD

You guys were so crazy back then.

Dirtytabs
2013-02-09, 08:32 PM
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

You guys... you guys...

You guys named a thread Mmph!

Oh man. xD

You guys were so crazy back then.

Anyone know why? I want to make a Pyro joke.

Tectonic Robot
2013-02-09, 09:00 PM
Anyone know why? I want to make a Pyro joke.

Bondage. Teeheehee.

thubby
2013-02-09, 09:11 PM
Your comment implies that you haven't watched Rainbow Dash Presents: My Little Dashie. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH1U87rNR7Q)

You should fix that.

well no, i hadnt seen that.
my question, however, remains surprisingly relevant.

PhoeKun
2013-02-09, 09:12 PM
Anarion, I really really hope I did enough just now to avoid a spread of legal misinformation. I hate writing posts like the one that just went up on EqD, but there was sufficient pressure and enough people wanting to do potentially harmful things that I didn't feel like there was a choice.

Blargh, everything about the FiM takedown sucks.

PhantomFox
2013-02-09, 09:27 PM
New episode
Personally, I had a hard time with this, although it's more of a personal issue. I have a hard time when I know characters I like are being stupid. After that 10 minutes was over, the rest of it was good though.

Anarion
2013-02-09, 10:29 PM
Anarion, I really really hope I did enough just now to avoid a spread of legal misinformation. I hate writing posts like the one that just went up on EqD, but there was sufficient pressure and enough people wanting to do potentially harmful things that I didn't feel like there was a choice.

Blargh, everything about the FiM takedown sucks.

That was basically spot-on. While you may be interested to know that trademark and trade dress are not synonyms*, everything else in the article is really accurate.

I don't share your pessimism though. Despite Hasbro's interest in presenting their characters in a particular light, I think there's an opportunity for a lot of profits and good will that are shared interests of all parties and could make a negotiation possible. I don't know if enough people in positions to make decisions agree with me or not, but I think there are ways to take advantage of the work that has been done without harming the value of the MLP brand.


*Trade mark refers to marks, symbols, or short phrases that represent a company. Trade dress is the aesthetic elements of a particular product. For example, the Apple logo is its trademark, while the shape, size, and feel of the iPhone is its trade dress. The ponies and their names are trademarked.


New episode
Personally, I had a hard time with this, although it's more of a personal issue. I have a hard time when I know characters I like are being stupid. After that 10 minutes was over, the rest of it was good though.

Yeah, I felt the same way.

EsperDerek
2013-02-09, 10:38 PM
Can I just say I find the major fandom reactions to some of the news out of the fandom this week hilarious?

"What?! The brony documentary got shut down in part because of piracy? Curse you pirates! If you hadn't of infringed on their copyright, this never would have happened!"

"What?! Fighting is Magic got shut down because it was served a C&D? Curse you Hasbro! If you hadn't of defended your copyright, this never would have happened!"

PhoeKun
2013-02-09, 10:52 PM
That was basically spot-on. While you may be interested to know that trademark and trade dress are not synonyms*, everything else in the article is really accurate.

Ah. Well, I'll file that away for next time. I don't think it's too toxic for me to be derping with terminology, and I'm pretty burned out on this already. Thanks for helping to educate me. It's through talking with you (and other law folks) that I've learned enough to not make an ass of myself. :smallsmile:



I don't share your pessimism though. Despite Hasbro's interest in presenting their characters in a particular light, I think there's an opportunity for a lot of profits and good will that are shared interests of all parties and could make a negotiation possible. I don't know if enough people in positions to make decisions agree with me or not, but I think there are ways to take advantage of the work that has been done without harming the value of the MLP brand.

It's possible and I really hope something can be worked out that allows the project to continue. But it's highly unlikely, as the game has zero appeal outside of the secondary demographic. Hasbro has given bronies a lot of targeted toys, but they do it knowing that the kids will grab up just as many Steven Magnets as we will. The gains with regards to their focus with the franchise are smaller than will likely interest them.

But, you never know. Either way, I hope that people call off the war. It won't help.

Madcrafter
2013-02-09, 11:03 PM
Hasbro has given bronies a lot of targeted toys, but they do it knowing that the kids will grab up just as many Steven Magnets as we will.

There are Steven Magnet toys?

PhoeKun
2013-02-09, 11:10 PM
There are Steven Magnet toys?

There are now.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WQgz9kxYqxo/URcLeBiXTXI/AAAAAAABS5c/Xm4l4h3PPxc/s1600/My-Little-Pony-Toy-Fair-2013-037_1360451576.jpg

Madcrafter
2013-02-09, 11:18 PM
There are now.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WQgz9kxYqxo/URcLeBiXTXI/AAAAAAABS5c/Xm4l4h3PPxc/s1600/My-Little-Pony-Toy-Fair-2013-037_1360451576.jpg

That. Is. Amazing.

Pokonic
2013-02-09, 11:27 PM
There are now.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WQgz9kxYqxo/URcLeBiXTXI/AAAAAAABS5c/Xm4l4h3PPxc/s1600/My-Little-Pony-Toy-Fair-2013-037_1360451576.jpg

They...actualy...named....

....


Pffffffahahahahaha!

Tectonic Robot
2013-02-09, 11:30 PM
There are now.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WQgz9kxYqxo/URcLeBiXTXI/AAAAAAABS5c/Xm4l4h3PPxc/s1600/My-Little-Pony-Toy-Fair-2013-037_1360451576.jpg

Oh my gosh, this is stupendous.

Jothki
2013-02-09, 11:31 PM
Can I just say I find the major fandom reactions to some of the news out of the fandom this week hilarious?

"What?! The brony documentary got shut down in part because of piracy? Curse you pirates! If you hadn't of infringed on their copyright, this never would have happened!"

"What?! Fighting is Magic got shut down because it was served a C&D? Curse you Hasbro! If you hadn't of defended your copyright, this never would have happened!"

Hey now, the documentary pirates didn't wait a year to announce that they were pirating it.

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-09, 11:34 PM
Well, my work won't let me go on GitP, so I think you'd get that from me even if you didn't ask. :smallsmile: I expect ponies when I come back, though.
Okay, everypony! I'm back from work, do not disappoint!

...

Okay, Ponythread, you all have Anarion to thank for posting ponies. You better shower him with ponies for thanks.


There is an iPhone app version of at least the first game. Don't know about the others one way or another.
I don't have an iPhone myself (and I stopped following the series after Miles Edgeworth Investigations), I just hopped on GameFAQs to confirm that the trilogy was on WiiWare, and saw that there was a listing for "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy HD" on the iPhone with a TBA release date on my way there.

Dirtytabs
2013-02-09, 11:41 PM
Bondage. Teeheehee.

Should've known. :smallbiggrin: Oh, memories of the training grounds. (Remember Phoe-Kun? Ropes being your idea? Haw haw haw.)


There are now.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WQgz9kxYqxo/URcLeBiXTXI/AAAAAAABS5c/Xm4l4h3PPxc/s1600/My-Little-Pony-Toy-Fair-2013-037_1360451576.jpg
Ste... Ste... I'm going to Toys 'R' Us tomorrow.

Pendulous
2013-02-09, 11:57 PM
They...actualy...named....

....


Pffffffahahahahaha!

Is that the manticore from episode 2?

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-10, 12:24 AM
Anarion, I really really hope I did enough just now to avoid a spread of legal misinformation. I hate writing posts like the one that just went up on EqD, but there was sufficient pressure and enough people wanting to do potentially harmful things that I didn't feel like there was a choice.

Blargh, everything about the FiM takedown sucks.

Phoe was I almost quoted in that EqD post? The bit about the "disclaimers" and how counter-productive they are I mean.

Then again I think I was half quoting somepony from another time anyways.

PhoeKun
2013-02-10, 12:26 AM
Phoe was I almost quoted in that EqD post? The bit about the "disclaimers" and how counter-productive they are I mean.

Then again I think I was half quoting somepony from another time anyways.

It was your reference that called it into my mind as I was writing the post, so yes, you have influenced my horse words.

Alabenson
2013-02-10, 12:28 AM
There are now.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WQgz9kxYqxo/URcLeBiXTXI/AAAAAAABS5c/Xm4l4h3PPxc/s1600/My-Little-Pony-Toy-Fair-2013-037_1360451576.jpg

Is that...an accurately molded Fluttershy and a NIGHTMARE MOON FIGURINE?!?

Where and when will these be available?

MCerberus
2013-02-10, 12:34 AM
Esteban Magneto... LIIIIIIIIIIIIVES

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-10, 12:35 AM
It was your reference that called it into my mind as I was writing the post, so yes, you have influenced my horse words.

Well that picks my ego up ever so slightly with a warm fuzzy feeling.

Maybe some sanity will come of it all.

Until the next drama bomb comes along to spook the Herd at least.

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-10, 12:46 AM
Until the next drama bomb comes along to spook the Herd at least.
I heard from a reliable source that Sweetie Bell has a loose tooth!

t209
2013-02-10, 01:16 AM
About the episode
The Pegasi, especially Rainbow Dash, didn't realize that Cloudsdale didn't have accommodations for non pegasus, unless it's skydiving.
So Who would be your pony Blood Bowl Team?
- Thrower (Pinkie Pie)
- Linemare or stallion (Applejack, Rarity's Earth Pony father (Football cutiemark), Shining Armor)
- Blitzer (Rainbow Dash)

MCerberus
2013-02-10, 01:21 AM
I heard from a reliable source that Sweetie Bell has a loose tooth!

Why would a robot have teeth?

Pokonic
2013-02-10, 01:26 AM
Is that the manticore from episode 2?

Even better, the box is named "Elements of Harmony and Friends".

And Nightmare Moon is in it.

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/189/4/a/surprise_nightmare_moon_by_ultimateultimate-d54dv5r.png

Tectonic Robot
2013-02-10, 01:29 AM
Even better, the box is named "Elements of Harmony and Friends".

And Nightmare Moon is in it.

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/189/4/a/surprise_nightmare_moon_by_ultimateultimate-d54dv5r.png

That's a cute Nightmare Moon picture!

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-10, 01:29 AM
Why would a robot have teeth?
Because Hasbro is clearly out to destroy our childyoungadulthood! You better watch out, or they'll make Fluttershy into a pony!

t209
2013-02-10, 01:34 AM
Looking back at this headcanon (http://www.rhjunior.com/FrontPage/00196.html).
- We got Roid Rage, large body with small wings but still can fly (Yeahh!).
- Mules do exist, but much different from his head canon (No Cutiemarks and more Donkey).

Mando Knight
2013-02-10, 01:34 AM
Why would a robot have teeth?

Because Hasbro is clearly out to destroy our childyoungadulthood!
Yessss... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2t4MBhGAg8)
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/d/d0/Megatronbwteeth.jpg

Anarion
2013-02-10, 01:41 AM
Because Hasbro is clearly out to destroy our childyoungadulthood! You better watch out, or they'll make Fluttershy into a pony!

This is one of those moments when I realize how much of my childhood Hasbro is actually responsible for. G.I. Joe, Transformers, Magic: The Gathering, D&D, My Little Pony (admittedly, the ordering was unexpected). If Thanqol wasn't personally making sure that White Wolf gets hundreds of dollars from me, it would be a near monopoly.

Thanqol
2013-02-10, 03:01 AM
New episode

Found it boring. C-.

@ Stephen Magnet Toy: <3


Well, as it so happens, I-

Oh. Um. Well.

I mean, of course I'm Arabian. Harems and genies are part of my cultural heritage.

...as it so happens, I am also a white horse. What a coincidence.

Are you hitting on me?


This is one of those moments when I realize how much of my childhood Hasbro is actually responsible for. G.I. Joe, Transformers, Magic: The Gathering, D&D, My Little Pony (admittedly, the ordering was unexpected). If Thanqol wasn't personally making sure that White Wolf gets hundreds of dollars from me, it would be a near monopoly.

I have 26 inches of White Wolf books.

Raz_Fox
2013-02-10, 03:10 AM
New episode

Found it boring. C-.

http://i.imgur.com/4sZHM.png


Are you hitting on me?

http://i.imgur.com/RBgwp.png Well, not anymore.

Thanqol
2013-02-10, 03:13 AM
http://i.imgur.com/4sZHM.png



http://i.imgur.com/RBgwp.png Well, not anymore.

You don't have the Resolve dots to handle even casual Thanqol jerkness. This is why Blueblood is more stallion than you will ever be.

Forum Explorer
2013-02-10, 03:31 AM
Read the news about the C&D. Really, REALLY pissed off about it.

I've sort of come to the realization that my idea that Hasbro was interested in being a partner with this fandom was, from the start, painfully naive. Hasbro doesn't want to foster the brony community, Hasbro wants to control the brony community. Huge difference.

Hasbro is not our friend. Hasbro is our enemy, to be manipulated and circumvented by any means necessary. I bought season three via iTunes. I don't plan to buy season four, but you can bet that I'll be watching it.

Yeah I'm pretty upset about it too. It certainly makes me think the MLP FiM exists in spite of Hasbro not because of it.


First, it's kinda hard to gather team to do such a project if you do it in secret, second, you can't build recognition for what you're doing, third, you can still be hit with C&D once you publish it, and getting to that stage means the reaction might be even more drastic.



That assumes Kickstarter won't instantly shut down the whole thing once Hasbro sends them C&D letter, too. Plus, even is they won't, at this point it will be selling infringed product and Hasbro can demand, say, twice the project's profit (that is, twice the sum they raised) in court as punitive damage, IIRC.


First and third points: It's not completely secret, just not showing most of your work online. It'd be harder sure, but a better chance to get things done. As for the third point well once the game is out online could they really stop it? They personally might have to stop distributing it, but everyone else could share it freely.

Good point. I think. I really don't know or understand laws.


I wish I quoted this but I can't see those crossovers you are talking about AotRS. Same think happened with Painted Jack. On the general subject of humanity needing to under your direct control, well I'll just say that idiots are in every single group and community in the world and that all humans are idiots sometimes about somethings.


Now my first impressions about the new episode!
Good nice episode. Loved the tie in with Just for Sidekicks. The humor was top notch too. Except for Pinkie. She was just annoying, except for the cinnamon bun part. Really this episode needed more Applejack.

Best jokes had to be the Crystal Pony window cleaner in the background. Followed by Rainbow Dash smashing into the spa window. Classic.

Small criticism in that I don't think Harsh Whinny's (best name) logic at the end made sense. Or her statement. That random pony (who I dub Chicken Little) was very biased, after all she just got the star treatment. It would have been better if Harsh Whinny had a good time despite being abandoned.

Random thoughts

Couldn't help but think that Cadance was training Twilight to be a Princess. Also hearing that Shining Armor is now a Prince is great.

On the Finale
Twilight's already technically part of the Royal Family. So perhaps it's more of a female thing and family thing. (only female Alicorns?)

Is it just me or has Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy been really touchy this season? Well Rainbow > Fluttershy at least. I swear someone on the staff ships Flutterdash (And I support that fully :smallbiggrin:)

Seriously Pinkie, you just didn't land any of your jokes today.


Now to read everyone else's opinion.

Balmas
2013-02-10, 04:09 AM
Have you ever had the thing where you're way way behind the times with a specific piece of pop culture?

Like if you just got the original portal game, and only now understand (and seek to make) "The cake is a lie" jokes.

Yeah, I finally set aside the 2-3 hours to catch up on Turnabout Storm, since I'd forgotten where I was up to, and finally watch part 4/4. It was ... very entertaining ... except ... for the bit

Where there's a @%!#^! part 5/4 to still come!!!! ARGGHGHHGHGHGHGHGH! :smallfurious::smallfurious::smalltongue:

I know your pain. In fact, if you go back to the last thread, you'll find a post somewhere discussing my imminent mental collapse.

Also, Gilda?
Congratulations, Gilda, you've officially become a worse friend than Discord. I mean, seriously? You come to make up with your best friend, and then... frame her for murder? ...Yeeeeaah, that's not going to work.

Oh, and also, testifying against her to ensure that she's found guilty of murder? Knowing that if she's found guilty, she dies? There can be nothing wrong with this plan that you might regret later on.

I mean, she spurns you at a party, and you frame her for murder. Seems like a fair trade.


Now this, however ...
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/040/d/2/twi_by_mamandil-d5u9shk.png (http://mamandil.deviantart.com/art/Twi-353176184)

So cuuute.


Found a nice little Scootaloo and Dash non-spoiler comic, here's the first page of 6 (http://latecustomer.deviantart.com/art/Dreams-and-Reality-Page-1-Commission-353240915)

http://media.tumblr.com/0246fb9b2db25276afefee100db3a0d5/tumblr_inline_mhlw39Ijcb1qz4rgp.gif
So many happy feelings there.


You should absolutely play Pheonix Wright. The games play out pretty much exactly the way that Turnabout Storm does. And it's great.

As for handsome stallions, I'd like to suggest...



Thunderlane. Yes. That one.

I actually like Thunderlane a lot, much more than I have any legitimate reason to. Though it might be because I named one of my X-COM soldiers after him and he turned out to be completely awesome.



New Episode
Dash sliding off the spa roof was my favorite moment too.

So Shining Armor seems to be doing the full time Prince deal now. With a side of training the Crystal Empire athletes. I guess this means some other lucky pony got promoted to Captain of the Royal Guard? I can't imagine that he's keeping that job while living halfway across the country.

Obviously, the job went to Twilight's other brother, who we haven't seen at all but is still there.



http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2013/040/b/8/pet_peeves_by_equestria_prevails-d5ucspv.png

Oh, that's going in the pony folder for sure. Also, owl griffons looks amazing.


so...
a male voiced RD and a monkey are the joker and harley quinn falling in love and terrorizing the city.

exactly how much cocaine was involved in the conception of this idea?

It makes sense in context. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItMakesSenseInContext)


There are now.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WQgz9kxYqxo/URcLeBiXTXI/AAAAAAABS5c/Xm4l4h3PPxc/s1600/My-Little-Pony-Toy-Fair-2013-037_1360451576.jpg

But! Job... college! But... ponies... Nightmare moon... Fluttershy... but no monies...

Whyyyyyyyyyyy (http://images.wikia.com/mlp/images/d/de/Spike_epic_%22why%3F!%22_S03E11.png)


I have 26 inches of White Wolf books.

It's fun and sometimes scary to tabulate just how much money Hasbro has made off of me. At present: around $90 in apparel, around $500 and two shelves' worth of books, twenty dollars worth of cards, plus maybe ~$12 in comics and blindbags.

Forum Explorer
2013-02-10, 04:22 AM
Which begs the question:
Rainbow Dad
or Rainbro Dash

Wonderful Puns. Also in my mind
Rainbow Dash and Rainbro Dash have a Dave-Bro relationship of ninja fighting.


Not technically impossible, I suppose, but it seems more natural to assume it's her father. Also I hope that's the case, because her having a brother (or other sibling ) would ruin one of my favorite headcanons

New episode
which headcanon?


Oh, well, erm. Let me get to reading the first four pages. :smallredface:


All right, him being her dad is more likely. Just throwing that out there. Which was in the post right above mine darnit I should read those first.

It would kind of suck if his name were Rainbow Dad. When he was born, his parents said, "Our foal's going to be a father, and we'll make sure of it."

:smallbiggrin:

That was a very very nice comic, hope the actual subject matter isn't the real reason, but if it is, that's a good way to overcome it.



I had the complete opposite thought (GPP spoilers):

I was thinking; "Huh, does that thing explode every time there's a crowd of happy ponies nearby?"

Public Holiday today everypony! *Kablam*
Happy New Year! *Kablam*
15% off at Donut Joe's! *MEGAKABLAMOOOM*

And, courtesy of the IRC:

*Big world-covering explosion of light*

SA runs out onto the balcony: "HEY EVERYPONY! GUESS WHO JUST GOT LUCK-"

*Gets tossed off by his wife*




Yeah, actually, I totes want to play a Phoenix game now too, I'm just scared of getting it wrong though :smallfrown:

(Also, is it available on PC easily anywhere? I don't have a DS)

EDIT #2:

Recognise these ponies? (No spoilers)
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2013/040/b/8/pet_peeves_by_equestria_prevails-d5ucspv.png


Your comment implies that you haven't watched Rainbow Dash Presents: My Little Dashie. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH1U87rNR7Q)

You should fix that.

Gummy looks weird.



Can I just say I find the major fandom reactions to some of the news out of the fandom this week hilarious?

"What?! The brony documentary got shut down in part because of piracy? Curse you pirates! If you hadn't of infringed on their copyright, this never would have happened!"

"What?! Fighting is Magic got shut down because it was served a C&D? Curse you Hasbro! If you hadn't of defended your copyright, this never would have happened!"

We are a very silly group of ponies. Lets face it, we are basically the Flower Trio.


I heard from a reliable source that Sweetie Bell has a loose tooth!

The Horror, the Horror! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy-0ZwgeSvc)


About the episode
The Pegasi, especially Rainbow Dash, didn't realize that Cloudsdale didn't have accommodations for non pegasus, unless it's skydiving.
So Who would be your pony Blood Bowl Team?
- Thrower (Pinkie Pie)
- Linemare or stallion (Applejack, Rarity's Earth Pony father (Football cutiemark), Shining Armor)
- Blitzer (Rainbow Dash)

Why do you think Cloudale was rejected? :smallwink:

"On the grounds of I can't stand on the ground I'm afraid you won't be hosting the Equestria Games."

"That's not fair." http://i.imgur.com/erYVj.png


Linemare: Horsepower, Big Mac, Applejack

Blitzer: Rainbow Dash, Rarity

Catcher: Twilight, Pinkie

Cheerleader: Fluttershy

Thrower: Shining Armor

Ball: Spike :smalltongue:


Why would a robot have teeth?

To grab and tear of course!


You don't have the Resolve dots to handle even casual Thanqol jerkness. This is why Blueblood is more stallion than you will ever be.

This thread keeps making me laugh. It's a good thing. :smallsmile:

Seriously I've been getting moods whiplash from ponies lately.

Deadly
2013-02-10, 07:39 AM
That calls for a song. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mBa0civN5Y)

I clicked that link and said to myself "Niiiice, that looks interesting ... so they're doing some kind of live stunt involving the singing of silly pony songs in a Norway university or something? ... wtf, fire trucks? Wow, really went all out on this pony song ... come on, start singing ... wait ..."

And that's when I realized I was watching an ad :smallannoyed: Consider me majorly disappointed. Now I really want people singing silly pony songs in public, with fire trucks and all


New episode

Found it boring. C-.

This made my day :smallbiggrin:


I have 26 inches of White Wolf books.

I have ... five or so

Of course I have enough other books to build a pretty decent book fort


New episode
which headcanon?

Neither Rainbow Dash nor Fluttershy have siblings, so they're like sisters to each other.

DigoDragon
2013-02-10, 08:30 AM
Which begs the question:
Rainbow Dad
or Rainbro Dash

Prism Skittles. :smalltongue:



I don't think anyone thinks that his name is really either of the two options. Like Steroid pony was right after his first YAAAAAAAAH.

Although Pinkie's Pac-Man ghost sisters seem to have stuck
Also head-canon: Pinkie's father is named Clyde

I for one like the Pac-Man naming scheme given to Pinkie's family. It's cute and fits. Pinkie's mom is Sue if I remember the scheme. Really wish Pinkie's sisters would get another cameo or mention in the show.



Yeah, actually, I totes want to play a Phoenix game now too, I'm just scared of getting it wrong though :smallfrown:

(Also, is it available on PC easily anywhere? I don't have a DS)

I believe there is a DS emulator out there for the PC. I don't know anything about it other than it exists though.



Does this mean...

Rainbow Dash dresses in style? http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg

MSPANC.

Well that sounds original. :smallwink:



Angel, stop teasing Gummy. Stahp.

Also, owlgriffon.

Ah ha!! Thank you for confirming my suspicions.



New episode:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/f5a921c607ad969b142b5d179e24432c/tumblr_mhysu1qDky1r19504o1_500.gif
She has been named "Chickadee" and she is my pony waifu.

That is all.

New Episode:
You spin me right round baby right round...
Chickadee isn't a bad name at all.

DigoDragon
2013-02-10, 09:07 AM
Okay, Ponythread, you all have Anarion to thank for posting ponies. You better shower him with ponies for thanks.

I call dibs on the AJ shower:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3o8mylKVI1r7w8teo1_500.png

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cvROXifZSdc/TsxDTo7SH3I/AAAAAAAAVMA/gLk3n2cKIUc/s640/88216+-+applejack+artist+saphamia+lesbian+rarity+shipping +wet_mane.jpg

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2011/153/d/4/wet_ponies_by_kloudmutt-d3hwel9.png

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/245/8/f/it_will_rain_by_blitzpony-d5dbw72.png

http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/251/a/7/hit_the_showers_by_harwicks_art-d5e2n9r.jpg

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/357/0/c/applejack_wet_mane_by_teiptr-d5ow71t.png

And one to dess up for a night out :smallbiggrin:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/261/8/b/pretty_applejack_by_splashiez-d5f65pt.png



Can I just say I find the major fandom reactions to some of the news out of the fandom this week hilarious?

Well, I suppose that's better than locking yourself in your room bawling tears. :smallsmile:



They...actualy...named....
....
Pffffffahahahahaha!

I know right? That's crazy awesome! Manny Roar for the manticore is pretty awesome too!
Yeah, Hasbro still nods to the Bronies.



This is one of those moments when I realize how much of my childhood Hasbro is actually responsible for.

Seriously. I've had the same realizations a couple years back when Season 2 started up. Also, my daughter is shaping up to go the same path because she's into all these new generation Hasbro shows.
...AND there's the Walking/Talking Pinkie Pie toy commercial my daughter is happily raving about.

Thank you Hasbro. :smallbiggrin:

otakuryoga
2013-02-10, 10:01 AM
3..
2..
1..
Launch picture of Best Princess!
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2013/040/5/7/princess_cracklecorn_by_dori_to-d5ue8nb.png

Kairaven
2013-02-10, 10:06 AM
I am old enough to remember how much of my childhood Hasbro has aquired and destroyed. (Ok, fine, destroyed is too harsh, altered beyond recognition. )

Edit: ok that came out of a place of harshness. Fact is the part of my childhood that Hasbro now have the rights to are essentially ideas by other companies when I was still a kid. And most of them are basically unchanged. But I'm disinclined to attribute them the credit when they simply bought the rights. Given that, Hasbro is maybe only 10% of my childhood.

Kd7sov
2013-02-10, 10:41 AM
...You know, I don't think Hasbro got any of my childhood. What little TV I watched was mostly Sesame Street, Bill Nye, and Mister Rogers; my knowledge of Transformers consisted of "this friend has some toys with that name"; I didn't get into D&D at all until I was about sixteen...

Orrrr maybe I'm underestimating; looking at Wikipedia, Sesame Street is theirs, along with Parker Brothers (Monopoly and Risk were big in my childhood), Play-Doh, and Lincoln Logs. So maybe they're more present than I thought.

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-10, 11:03 AM
Yessss... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2t4MBhGAg8)
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/d/d0/Megatronbwteeth.jpg

In other words giving a robot teeth is linked to the only time before the present when Transformers was a decent television show.

I concurr.

(What people.... I always laugh when people rant about Michael Bay, his works are masterpieces next to that ill-made 80s crap. Nevermind the horrors between Beast Wars and the Bay movies)

Manga Shoggoth
2013-02-10, 11:16 AM
There are now.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WQgz9kxYqxo/URcLeBiXTXI/AAAAAAABS5c/Xm4l4h3PPxc/s1600/My-Little-Pony-Toy-Fair-2013-037_1360451576.jpg

I am suddenly consumed with an urge to by MLP:FIM figures for someone other than my daughter...

DigoDragon
2013-02-10, 11:25 AM
Wow, escalated quickly indeed Celestia (Dan vs. FiM)...
http://25.media.tumblr.com/7845cb8568254725645bc33db01b2a1d/tumblr_mhhrkdCg5g1r8uiq6o1_1280.png (http://dan-vs-fim.tumblr.com/image/41942266951)

Cool "Wicked" tshirt design, Pony style:
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/040/d/9/wicked_ponies_by_wrenhat-d5uevo7.png (http://fav.me/d5uevo7)



Launch picture of Best Princess!
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2013/040/5/7/princess_cracklecorn_by_dori_to-d5ue8nb.png

Wow, I actually correctly guessed this one. :smallbiggrin:
Best princess indeed!



I am suddenly consumed with an urge to by MLP:FIM figures for someone other than my daughter...

...that's my line. :smalltongue:

Kairaven
2013-02-10, 11:31 AM
In other words giving a robot teeth is linked to the only time before the present when Transformers was a decent television show.

I concurr.

(What people.... I always laugh when people rant about Michael Bay, his works are masterpieces next to that ill-made 80s crap. Nevermind the horrors between Beast Wars and the Bay movies)

Certainly that's true. My problem with Michael Bay is Michael Bay himself though. His film just seem to have less substance and more explosion as time goes on. The Rock was the only film of his that I enjoyed. And that might be due more to the inherent hilarity of Nicolas Cage and Sean Connery than anything Bay contributed.

Back to pony and childhood. I think Disney and Mattel holds a larger portion of my childhood. Along with DiC entertainment, of which apparently DHX is the successor. (That and Japanese animation studio, anime holds at least 40% of my childhood)

And lastly back to pony. There is a point I reach, with any shows, where I decide it becomes too altered from what originally made it special. This is usually the point I stop watching. It happened around season 5 of The West Wing, for example. Now, I'm not saying pony has reached such point for me, but we shall see.

Ultimately all story should have an ending.

t209
2013-02-10, 11:33 AM
...You know, I don't think Hasbro got any of my childhood. What little TV I watched was mostly Sesame Street, Bill Nye, and Mister Rogers; my knowledge of Transformers consisted of "this friend has some toys with that name"; I didn't get into D&D at all until I was about sixteen...

Orrrr maybe I'm underestimating; looking at Wikipedia, Sesame Street is theirs, along with Parker Brothers (Monopoly and Risk were big in my childhood), Play-Doh, and Lincoln Logs. So maybe they're more present than I thought.

http://www.drunkduck.com/Cobblestone_Street_or_My_Little_Pony_Meets_Sesame_ Street/
So this is why this crossover comic was made.

zimmerwald1915
2013-02-10, 11:39 AM
Cool "Wicked" tshirt design, Pony style:
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/040/d/9/wicked_ponies_by_wrenhat-d5uevo7.png (http://fav.me/d5uevo7)
Ooh, has anyone ponified Pippin?

http://i49.tinypic.com/2czolmw.png

Beacon of Chaos
2013-02-10, 12:05 PM
Happy Chineighs New Year!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/c356f0f70e7ce259e8607675e3e80c74/tumblr_mhyi1w72aM1rf5g10o1_1280.jpg

zimmerwald1915
2013-02-10, 12:09 PM
Happy Chineighs New Year!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/c356f0f70e7ce259e8607675e3e80c74/tumblr_mhyi1w72aM1rf5g10o1_1280.jpg
You showed us ponyfingers without warning us! You monster!

thubby
2013-02-10, 12:09 PM
You showed us ponyfingers without warning us! You monster!

i thought that was a given when it's anthro...?

One Tin Soldier
2013-02-10, 12:09 PM
Okay, everypony! I'm back from work, do not disappoint!

...

Okay, Ponythread, you all have Anarion to thank for posting ponies. You better shower him with ponies for thanks.


I don't have an iPhone myself (and I stopped following the series after Miles Edgeworth Investigations), I just hopped on GameFAQs to confirm that the trilogy was on WiiWare, and saw that there was a listing for "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy HD" on the iPhone with a TBA release date on my way there.

I was not aware of this,and now I am very seriously considering buying it. I also discovered that Ghost Trick is free for the iPhone (Or at least the first few chapters of it, it's not entirely clear).

If any of you ponies have an iPhone or iPad, you need to play Ghost Trick. You will not regret it, I promise.



Is it just me or has Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy been really touchy this season? Well Rainbow > Fluttershy at least. I swear someone on the staff ships Flutterdash (And I support that fully :smallbiggrin:)



New Ep.
I have noticed the same thing, and I approve heartily. OTP, awaaaaaaay!

zimmerwald1915
2013-02-10, 12:36 PM
i thought that was a given when it's anthro...?
'Tis, but there was no indication of it being anthro either. Not til the spoiler, and thus Pandora's Box, was already open. [/faux outrage]

DigoDragon
2013-02-10, 12:51 PM
Games Ponies Play (Spoiler Art & Stuff)--
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/040/9/f/cloudsdale_for_the_winners___by_suikuzu-d5ucz7g.png (http://fav.me/d5ucz7g)

I've heard a lot of different names for the father. Seems this one is hard to pin down (Haha, makes sense). My fav that I seen is Color Canon. The alliteration appeals to me.

Others I've seen, but aren't as cool to me are Roy G. Biv, Peter Palette, Daddy Dash, Bifrost, Spectrum Flash (okay maybe this one is pretty cool too)...

Pokonic
2013-02-10, 12:54 PM
Happy Chineighs New Year!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/c356f0f70e7ce259e8607675e3e80c74/tumblr_mhyi1w72aM1rf5g10o1_1280.jpg

Normaly I would be against this, but Fluttershy.:smalltongue:

MCerberus
2013-02-10, 01:16 PM
Games Ponies Play (Spoiler Art & Stuff)--
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/040/9/f/cloudsdale_for_the_winners___by_suikuzu-d5ucz7g.png (http://fav.me/d5ucz7g)

I've heard a lot of different names for the father. Seems this one is hard to pin down (Haha, makes sense). My fav that I seen is Color Canon. The alliteration appeals to me.

Others I've seen, but aren't as cool to me are Roy G. Biv, Peter Palette, Daddy Dash, Bifrost, Spectrum Flash (okay maybe this one is pretty cool too)...

Another canon that FiW predicted:
I have parents, and they LOVE ME

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-10, 01:27 PM
Another canon that FiW predicted:
I have parents, and they LOVE ME

It really IS witchcraft.

Come everypony get your torches and farming implements. And somepony get the scales.

Aotrs Commander
2013-02-10, 01:39 PM
And back from wargames convention.

Mixed results with photos this time (the lighting was less the issue that I didn't focus very well, but then again I took most of the photos after setting up, which took about two-and-a-half hours, by which time I wanted to actually get started as the punters had long since been let in, and the Humourous Pictures to follow at the end didn't come out as well as I'd like (though this time not totally unsalvageable!) Still, the most import photo, the shot of the whole game came out great, so there's that.

Whole board (from optimal viewing position!)
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u172/AotrsCommander/Hammerhead2013_zpsd53ef9f3.jpg

(See, Lix, if we have meetup at the Legion, I can put something like that on...! Well, a bit more cut-down, obviously...)

Lake and Soviet right flank (the only other wide shots that came out!)

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u172/AotrsCommander/Hammerhead2013Lake_zps060d7918.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u172/AotrsCommander/Hammerhead2013SovRight_zps0dfd5d87.jpg


And finally out Humorous Picture of the Competion; which in the absense of a sane caption (was kinda runnin' on steam by the time I got take that!) we shall have a caption competition for, ala HIGNFY...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u172/AotrsCommander/TrixieDash_zps0aec5bec.jpg

(And yes. that's an Aotrs Fallen Soul APC/Boarding Pod in the back there.)




We actually had a record breaker - the first exchange of fire (from the Jalyrkieon heavy tanks against that Tesla Coil down in the swamp there) went on for the longest chain of reactions and casualties we've ever had in Manouvre Group. By the time we'd finished the reactions of the first fire action of the game, there were five destroyed targets (four Soviet, one Jalyrkieon) and a couple more pretty knackered, all spanning off one shot! We must have had (including misses and such!) a good dozen back-and-forth reactions in that one phase...

And one of the Soviet tanks managed the unusual feat of rolling snake eyes on two D20 and still hitting twice! (1 is not an automatic miss - base 4 to hit, -4 for a second and subsequent shot at the same target, +1 for having a reaction marker...!) We assumed the gunner must have sneezed as he pulled the trigger...

Theoboldi
2013-02-10, 01:44 PM
It really IS witchcraft.

Come everypony get your torches and farming implements. And somepony get the scales.

Do we get those silly puritan hats too if we join the mob?

That said, I only just noticed that the doctor whooves and assistant redid their first few episodes three days ago. I think I'll go watch that now.

On an unrelated note, do we have a name for Rainbow's dad yet?

zimmerwald1915
2013-02-10, 01:50 PM
Do we get those silly puritan hats too if we join the mob?
Only if you're among the first fifty to join the mob.

We do get to eat the ducks at the end though.

OracleofWuffing
2013-02-10, 02:22 PM
Orrrr maybe I'm underestimating; looking at Wikipedia, Sesame Street is theirs, along with Parker Brothers (Monopoly and Risk were big in my childhood), Play-Doh, and Lincoln Logs. So maybe they're more present than I thought.
Admittedly, I'm this far away from starting a Yahtzee thread in Finding Players (Recruitment) just to see what madness comes out of it.


If any of you ponies have an iPhone or iPad, you need to play Ghost Trick. You will not regret it, I promise.
Funny story- I shotgunned Ghost Trick in one night, and ended just in time for sunrise. For those of you that haven't played the game, that might sound like a bad thing, but those of us who have played the game are chuckling right now.

Tectonic Robot
2013-02-10, 02:44 PM
Only if you're among the first fifty to join the mob.

We do get to eat the ducks at the end though.

That sounds scrumptious. :9

kpenguin
2013-02-10, 03:05 PM
Orrrr maybe I'm underestimating; looking at Wikipedia, Sesame Street is theirs, along with Parker Brothers (Monopoly and Risk were big in my childhood), Play-Doh, and Lincoln Logs. So maybe they're more present than I thought.

What? Sesame Street is owned and produced by the Sesame Workshop. I mean, Hasbro does some of the licensed merchandising stuff, but its one of a group of companies that make Sesame Street merchandise. Tickle Me Elmo, for instance, is made by a subdivision of Mattel

Alabenson
2013-02-10, 03:41 PM
It really IS witchcraft.

Come everypony get your torches and farming implements. And somepony get the scales.

I'll go grab a duck :smalltongue:

Beacon of Chaos
2013-02-10, 03:47 PM
You showed us ponyfingers without warning us! You monster!
http://pinkie.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/img/mlfw3324-1330560319780.gif


And finally out Humorous Picture of the Competion; which in the absense of a sane caption (was kinda runnin' on steam by the time I got take that!) we shall have a caption competition for, ala HIGNFY...
Dash: "Trixie... when I asked you to help me find Tank..."


On the subject of Trixie and danger:
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/thumbs/1200/800/2013/02/09/17_31_42_107_238049__UNOPT__safe_comic_trixie_carr ot_top_artist_bestseller_microtech.png.png

Filly Princesses at the beach
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And some GPP spoiler gifs, because why not?
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMThfNDBfNDJfMjMwXzIzODE1N1 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfcmFpbmJvd19kYXNoX3Jhcml0eV9hbmlt YXRlZF9wcmluY2Vzc19jYWRhbmNlX3Nwb2lsZXJfczAzZTEyXz UwZjEzODYwYTRjNzJkNDkxNjAwMGY3OC5naWYuZ2lmIl1d/238157__safe_rainbow-dash_rarity_animated_princess-cadance_spoiler-s03e12_50f13860a4c72d4916000f78.gif.gif
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMThfMjlfNDNfMjE4XzIzODE0MF 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfdHdpbGlnaHRfc3BhcmtsZV9yYWluYm93 X2Rhc2hfcGlua2llX3BpZV9mbHV0dGVyc2h5X3Jhcml0eV9hcH BsZWphY2tfYW5pbWF0ZWRfc3BvaWxlcl9zMDNlMTIuZ2lmLmdp ZiJdXQ/238140__safe_twilight-sparkle_rainbow-dash_pinkie-pie_fluttershy_rarity_applejack_animated_spoiler-s03e12.gif.gif
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDYvMjFfNDVfNTlfOTI4XzIzNTQ5NV 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfcmFyaXR5X2FuaW1hdGVkX2ltYWdlX21h Y3JvX2NyeXN0YWxfcG9ueV9pbXBhY3RfZm9udF9zcG9pbGVyX3 MwM2UxMl81MGYxMzg2MGE0YzcyZDQ5MTYwMDBmNzguZ2lmLmdp ZiJdXQ/235495__safe_rarity_animated_image-macro_spoiler-s03e12_crystal-pony_50f13860a4c72d4916000f78_impact-font.gif.gif
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMjFfNDFfMDVfODEzXzIzODM3OV 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfYW5pbWF0ZWRfc3BvaWxlcl9zMDNlMTJf NTBmMTM4NjBhNGM3MmQ0OTE2MDAwZjc4XzUxMTY3ZTZhYTRjNz JkY2U5ZTAwMDcyZi5naWYuZ2lmIl1d/238379__safe_animated_spoiler-s03e12_50f13860a4c72d4916000f78_51167e6aa4c72dce9e 00072f_5116e301a4c72d0e600001ac.gif.gif

Aotrs Commander
2013-02-10, 03:58 PM
Dash: "Trixie... when I asked you to help me find Tank..."

*skullpalm*

Wow, I really missed the most obvious idea there, didn't I? Really flagging at the end of the day, clearly. How could I miss the so many blinding obvious ways I could have played on that (with so many actual tanks to choose from)?

Welp, there's always next time.

t209
2013-02-10, 04:13 PM
Recognise these ponies? (No spoilers)
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2013/040/b/8/pet_peeves_by_equestria_prevails-d5ucspv.png

The Old pony might be archenemy of Pew Die Pie (Barrels)!

Soras Teva Gee
2013-02-10, 04:25 PM
Do we get those silly puritan hats too if we join the mob?


Only if you're among the first fifty to join the mob.

We do get to eat the ducks at the end though.


I'll go grab a duck :smalltongue:

As this angry mob is coming together nicely as the organizer I'm increasing the hats to the first 100.

Eakin
2013-02-10, 04:50 PM
I was not aware of this,and now I am very seriously considering buying it. I also discovered that Ghost Trick is free for the iPhone (Or at least the first few chapters of it, it's not entirely clear).

If any of you ponies have an iPhone or iPad, you need to play Ghost Trick. You will not regret it, I promise.



New Ep.
I have noticed the same thing, and I approve heartily. OTP, awaaaaaaay!

I think there were about a dozen comments I got when I was writing Hard Reset about this game, so congratulations on being the final prod I needed to just go download it already. Looks like it's two free chapters and then for ten bucks you get the whole game. I guess that's not such a huge risk to take.

BlasTech
2013-02-10, 05:17 PM
The Old pony might be archenemy of Pew Die Pie (Barrels)!

Who, or what, is Pew Die Pie? :smallconfused:


As this angry mob is coming together nicely as the organizer I'm increasing the hats to the first 100.

Sweet, I'm always up for a little mobbing, particularly if it's angry. Those 'mildly irritated' mobs just don't have the same pazzaz, yanno?

Will there be ice cream at the end of this one?

Beacon of Chaos
2013-02-10, 05:24 PM
*skullpalm*

Wow, I really missed the most obvious idea there, didn't I? Really flagging at the end of the day, clearly. How could I miss the so many blinding obvious ways I could have played on that (with so many actual tanks to choose from)?

Welp, there's always next time.
In fairness, it didn't occur to me when I first looked at it. It was only after going away and coming back that I thought "Oh wait! Dash + Tank haha!"


So anyway, I'm looking forward to the MLP micro series comics, if only for the covers
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/thumbs/1200/800/2013/02/10/11_41_39_59_239027__UNOPT__safe_twilight_sparkle_c omic_spike_fanfiction_micro_cover_official_comic_5 0dcec08a4c72de94f00039b_5117876f7f123b6bc00014bd.j pg.jpg

She has a box of fanfiction. :smallbiggrin:

Dashie is a good friend
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMTRfMjBfNTlfMzk5XzIzNzg4OV 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfdHdpbGlnaHRfc3BhcmtsZV9yYWluYm93 X2Rhc2hfcGlua2llX3BpZV9zcGlrZV9jb21pY19hbnRocm9fYX J0aXN0X3NpZGVuLnBuZy5wbmciXV0/237889__safe_twilight-sparkle_rainbow-dash_pinkie-pie_comic_spike_anthro_artist-siden_tired-pie_50f0305ba4c72d97c80011ee.png.png

Theoboldi
2013-02-10, 05:27 PM
Who, or what, is Pew Die Pie? :smallconfused:



He's some popular let's player with a running gag about hating barrels.




Sweet, I'm always up for a little mobbing, particularly if it's angry. Those 'mildly irritated' mobs just don't have the same pazzaz, yanno?

Will there be ice cream at the end of this one?

Yes, but if you aren't one of the first 100 there will only be vanilla. :smallamused:

Dirtytabs
2013-02-10, 05:28 PM
As this angry mob is coming together nicely as the organizer I'm increasing the hats to the first 100.

Can I count myself as more than one person so I can take a bunch of hats? I want to have a respectable tower of them.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/344/d/b/spike__s_towering_pillar_of_hats_by_silentbutbeard ly-d4ir6ro.png

Eakin
2013-02-10, 05:33 PM
Of all the reactions to the whole C&D notice, I think this (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/82719/hoardsmiths) is pretty much the best possible one. Way to turn lemons into lemonade.

Balmas
2013-02-10, 05:48 PM
And some GPP spoiler gifs, because why not?

http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMThfMjlfNDNfMjE4XzIzODE0MF 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfdHdpbGlnaHRfc3BhcmtsZV9yYWluYm93 X2Rhc2hfcGlua2llX3BpZV9mbHV0dGVyc2h5X3Jhcml0eV9hcH BsZWphY2tfYW5pbWF0ZWRfc3BvaWxlcl9zMDNlMTIuZ2lmLmdp ZiJdXQ/238140__safe_twilight-sparkle_rainbow-dash_pinkie-pie_fluttershy_rarity_applejack_animated_spoiler-s03e12.gif.gif

Wait a minute: Look at exactly where Twilight is standing.

That's some strong tail. And, a weird position to hold there, Applejack. Everything alright?


As this angry mob is coming together nicely as the organizer I'm increasing the hats to the first 100.

Free chicken? Free hat? Free ice cream?

Hae at them, lads! (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/9/9d/Demoman_battlecry02.wav)


So anyway, I'm looking forward to the MLP micro series comics, if only for the covers
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/thumbs/1200/800/2013/02/10/11_41_39_59_239027__UNOPT__safe_twilight_sparkle_c omic_spike_fanfiction_micro_cover_official_comic_5 0dcec08a4c72de94f00039b_5117876f7f123b6bc00014bd.j pg.jpg

She has a box of fanfiction. :smallbiggrin:

Twilight, stahp. Self-insert fanfic is the worse kind of fanfic.

Alabenson
2013-02-10, 05:50 PM
Can I count myself as more than one person so I can take a bunch of hats? I want to have a respectable tower of them.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/344/d/b/spike__s_towering_pillar_of_hats_by_silentbutbeard ly-d4ir6ro.png

I had no idea Spike was such an avid Team Fortress 2 player :smallbiggrin:

Theoboldi
2013-02-10, 05:51 PM
Of all the reactions to the whole C&D notice, I think this (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/82719/hoardsmiths) is pretty much the best possible one. Way to turn lemons into lemonade.

Quite interesting. Reminds me of some old fairy tales and fables I read when I was small. I'm not quite satisfied with all of the allegories it made, but on the whole I think it is pretty good at capturing the spirit of the situation.

Your initial reaction was a bit over the top, by the way. :P



http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/thumbs/1200/800/2013/02/10/11_41_39_59_239027__UNOPT__safe_twilight_sparkle_c omic_spike_fanfiction_micro_cover_official_comic_5 0dcec08a4c72de94f00039b_5117876f7f123b6bc00014bd.j pg.jpg

She has a box of fanfiction. :smallbiggrin:


Is that the warpstar she's standing on? Someone needs to write a kirby/mlp crossover.

Darius Kane
2013-02-10, 06:06 PM
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMjBfMjdfNTZfNjU2XzIzODI5NF 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfdHdpbGlnaHRfc3BhcmtsZV9yYWluYm93 X2Rhc2hfYW5pbWF0ZWRfZWRpdF9uYXppXzUwZjEzODYwYTRjNz JkNDkxNjAwMGY3OF9oaXRsZXIuZ2lmLmdpZiJdXQ/238294__safe_twilight-sparkle_rainbow-dash_animated_edit_50f13860a4c72d4916000f78_nazi_h itler.gif.gif

Dirtytabs
2013-02-10, 06:16 PM
Of all the reactions to the whole C&D notice, I think this (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/82719/hoardsmiths) is pretty much the best possible one. Way to turn lemons into lemonade.
That was beautiful. Points for not inserting some detail that makes the parable really obvious.
(Insane, the lot of them. They're all insane. http://i.imgur.com/2c0gc.png Well. Insanity is overrated.http://i.imgur.com/PDKIo.png)


I had no idea Spike was such an avid Team Fortress 2 player :smallbiggrin:

The reason he hoarded stuff in "The Secret of My Excess" was obviously so he could have more things to put on his head. Other than the whole dragon greed thing.

Aotrs Commander
2013-02-10, 06:27 PM
Of all the reactions to the whole C&D notice, I think this (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/82719/hoardsmiths) is pretty much the best possible one. Way to turn lemons into lemonade.

Oh, Skywriter! Why am I not surprised...!

Raz_Fox
2013-02-10, 06:39 PM
Zimmerwald! I decided to nick the Celestia avvie for Gender Bender week, but I hope I've got your a) blessing and b) most up-to-date version! Thank you again for making it. :smallsmile:

Anarion
2013-02-10, 06:42 PM
Of all the reactions to the whole C&D notice, I think this (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/82719/hoardsmiths) is pretty much the best possible one. Way to turn lemons into lemonade.

The story is beautiful. The fatalistic assumption that reality can't be changed disgusts me.


Edit:

Zimmerwald! I decided to nick the Celestia avvie for Gender Bender week, but I hope I've got your a) blessing and b) most up-to-date version! Thank you again for making it. :smallsmile:

We only have a week for that?

Aotrs Commander
2013-02-10, 06:48 PM
The story is beautiful. The fatalistic assumption that reality can't be changed disgusts me.

Did... we read the same story? I didn't get that vibe from it, myself... Given the whole reality-is-not-unchangeable is pretty fundemental to my entire being, I would have sort of thought I'd have picked up on it... (At any rate the ponies in the story did not exactly try to negociate with the dragon, but that doesn't by itself preclude the possibility... Though I think the analogy would break down somewhat at the point the ponies all band together and appeal to the inner workings of the universe to fundementally alter the way dragons view their hordes or something...)

Darius Kane
2013-02-10, 06:50 PM
Kenneth-Nacht Fürstin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH00LJwV9gE&feature=player_embedded)

Anarion
2013-02-10, 06:56 PM
Did... we read the same story? I didn't get that vibe from it, myself... Given the whole reality-is-not-unchangeable is pretty fundemental to my entire being, I would have sort of thought I'd have picked up on it... (At any rate the ponies in the story did not exactly try to negociate with the dragon, but that doesn't by itself preclude the possibility... Though I think the analogy would break down somewhat at the point the ponies all band together and appeal to the inner workings of the universe to fundementally alter the way dragons view their hordes or something...)

I won't discount the possibility that I just viewed it pessimistically, but it presents the dragon and the hoard as facts of the setting. There's no thought that the dragon could be moved, changed or killed, or that one could fundamentally alter the value of a hoard. Not a single person griping in the bar considers the possibility of altering their situation.

Balmas
2013-02-10, 06:58 PM
Of all the reactions to the whole C&D notice, I think this (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/82719/hoardsmiths) is pretty much the best possible one. Way to turn lemons into lemonade.

You know it's a good parable when people read it and completely miss the point.

I mean, not that I have any particular first-hand experience with this. Not at all.

BlasTech
2013-02-10, 07:25 PM
I won't discount the possibility that I just viewed it pessimistically, but it presents the dragon and the hoard as facts of the setting. There's no thought that the dragon could be moved, changed or killed, or that one could fundamentally alter the value of a hoard. Not a single person griping in the bar considers the possibility of altering their situation.

Hmm, since the dragon was responsible for the assembling of the hoard, killing it or moving it would probably have been the last thing they wanted to do. :smallconfused:

As for the vibe of the whole tale, I think you are right in that it presents the hoard and dragon as facts of the setting, but to me that's only because it is a recounting of what currently is, right now, as opposed to what could be.

On the matter of the future for those Hoardsmiths, the last paragraph, and the last line in particular, ends hopefully, so there's no real telling whether things might or might not change later on.

Then again, it's a story, so it's all open to interpretation. Like the inspiration for such a nice piece of writing, I have no idea where it came from.

http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/135002662213.png

Theoboldi
2013-02-10, 07:36 PM
I won't discount the possibility that I just viewed it pessimistically, but it presents the dragon and the hoard as facts of the setting. There's no thought that the dragon could be moved, changed or killed, or that one could fundamentally alter the value of a hoard. Not a single person griping in the bar considers the possibility of altering their situation.

I have to admit, I kind of agree with you on that. That was the one problem I had with the whole parable, since I felt it just wasn't perfectly comparable to the real situation and speaks about an unchangeable natural law instead of a man-made one. Then again, no metaphor can perfectly replicate the problems it speaks about, and I have no idea whether that was even part of the message of the story.

That said, I'm really tired at the moment, so perhaps I am just missing something utterly obvious.

DigoDragon
2013-02-10, 07:43 PM
It really IS witchcraft.
Come everypony get your torches and farming implements. And somepony get the scales.

There's a couple ducks in my back yard we can use for counterweights.
And dinner. :smallbiggrin:



And some GPP spoiler gifs, because why not?
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMThfNDBfNDJfMjMwXzIzODE1N1 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfcmFpbmJvd19kYXNoX3Jhcml0eV9hbmlt YXRlZF9wcmluY2Vzc19jYWRhbmNlX3Nwb2lsZXJfczAzZTEyXz UwZjEzODYwYTRjNzJkNDkxNjAwMGY3OC5naWYuZ2lmIl1d/238157__safe_rainbow-dash_rarity_animated_princess-cadance_spoiler-s03e12_50f13860a4c72d4916000f78.gif.gif

Best Scene.



Dashie is a good friend
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Bwahahaha!! :smallbiggrin:
Best Face.



Wait a minute: Look at exactly where Twilight is standing.

That's some strong tail. And, a weird position to hold there, Applejack. Everything alright?

Episode Spoiler--
I'm guessing Sweet Apple Acres isn't an organic farm...
Best steroids?

Forum Explorer
2013-02-10, 07:49 PM
Neither Rainbow Dash nor Fluttershy have siblings, so they're like sisters to each other.

I don't see why siblings are blocking that sort of relationship


I won't discount the possibility that I just viewed it pessimistically, but it presents the dragon and the hoard as facts of the setting. There's no thought that the dragon could be moved, changed or killed, or that one could fundamentally alter the value of a hoard. Not a single person griping in the bar considers the possibility of altering their situation.

The horde's value actually increased from the Hoardsmiths. Particularly if you count worked goods as worth more than raw materials.

As for the dragon, well how does one go about killing or changing a dragon? Particularly without damaging the hoard.

Cuthalion
2013-02-10, 08:06 PM
And some GPP spoiler gifs, because why not?


That first one is quite spectacular.

Pokonic
2013-02-10, 08:27 PM
Dashie is a good friend
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMDkvMTRfMjBfNTlfMzk5XzIzNzg4OV 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfdHdpbGlnaHRfc3BhcmtsZV9yYWluYm93 X2Rhc2hfcGlua2llX3BpZV9zcGlrZV9jb21pY19hbnRocm9fYX J0aXN0X3NpZGVuLnBuZy5wbmciXV0/237889__safe_twilight-sparkle_rainbow-dash_pinkie-pie_comic_spike_anthro_artist-siden_tired-pie_50f0305ba4c72d97c80011ee.png.png

Awww, Rainbow realy is a good friend.

Anarion
2013-02-10, 08:28 PM
Hmm, since the dragon was responsible for the assembling of the hoard, killing it or moving it would probably have been the last thing they wanted to do. :smallconfused:


At risk of stretching this metaphor well past it's breaking point, it may be true that
a) if there were no dragons, yet hoards would come into being from some other source or
b) That having taken the hoard from the dragon, rather than rage, it would go on to assemble a new horde.



As for the dragon, well how does one go about killing or changing a dragon? Particularly without damaging the hoard.

What kind of question is that? There are a myriad of ways to slay a dragon. With magic, with swords, with lances. With starvation or asphyxiation, deprivation, or stagnation. In a big group, in a small group, quickly, slowly. In the night in the day. In a cave, in the sky, why anywhere at all, my my. No I will not eat green eggs and ham

...hm, I got a little off there. I'm just going to leave that as a monument to my own insanity.

Dirtytabs
2013-02-10, 08:30 PM
You know it's a good parable when people read it and completely miss the point.

I mean, not that I have any particular first-hand experience with this. Not at all.

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OracleofWuffing
2013-02-10, 08:37 PM
What kind of question is that? There are a myriad of ways to slay a dragon. With magic, with swords, with lances. With starvation or asphyxiation, deprivation, or stagnation. In a big group, in a small group, quickly, slowly. In the night in the day. In a cave, in the sky, why anywhere at all, my my. No I will not eat green eggs and ham
I'd just use a bad pun.

WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA

One Tin Soldier
2013-02-10, 08:50 PM
I think there were about a dozen comments I got when I was writing Hard Reset about this game, so congratulations on being the final prod I needed to just go download it already. Looks like it's two free chapters and then for ten bucks you get the whole game. I guess that's not such a huge risk to take.

Indeed not. I hope you enjoy it!

In relation to the spoiler image post.
By Celestia's royal plot, what is Applejack's tail made of?

I guess this is more evidence toward the "Applejack is made of Dark Matter" theory...

Thanqol
2013-02-10, 08:54 PM
And back from wargames convention.

Always jelly of your cool stuff.


Of all the reactions to the whole C&D notice, I think this (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/82719/hoardsmiths) is pretty much the best possible one. Way to turn lemons into lemonade.

Actually used the favourite button, a rare occurrence.


I won't discount the possibility that I just viewed it pessimistically, but it presents the dragon and the hoard as facts of the setting. There's no thought that the dragon could be moved, changed or killed, or that one could fundamentally alter the value of a hoard. Not a single person griping in the bar considers the possibility of altering their situation.

I'm imagining you being told the tale of the Three Little Pigs as a child and being unable to get through it because you kept interrupting to legislate that the pigs form a common militia, paid for out of their taxes, that would develop into a police force that would ensure safety against predatory wolves.