Make Psychic Warrior broken

[El-J]

Psychic Warrior with persistent power, metamorphpsys and pp recharge tricks.

Would it be broken in a high levek t3 or lower game.

and if not, how do i make it broken. Thanks

[Hand_of_Vecna]

King of Smack
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19866038/The_king_of_smack.

[Psyren]

PP recharge is always broken - not merely because you can pour out unlimited summons, unlimited damage, unlimited healing, unlimited creation etc., but because you can also generate unlimited actions to do the other things without passing your turn. Psywars take a little longer to go infinite but they can do it nearly as easily as psions.

[ddude987]

King of Smack
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19866038/The_king_of_smack.

Saw the thread name and was going to say that... darn you :P

But seriously, if you want to break psi war go king of smack. If you are concerned that it will be overpowered don't be. psy war might be well off in a tier 3 campaign but by no means will be overpowering compared the the rest of the party.

[El-J]

Well yea thats good, but, i was really thinking in using the weigth skaling rules of complete warruors.

By persisting metamorphosys, animal afinity , adrenaline boost , PLANAR EMBRACe and some other powers, my str is more than 60 so i can use really heavi weapons (pscrital+metamorphosys) to do really heavi damage.

And use Metamorphic Transfer with metamorphosys fo a bit more of vresatilitie

That + the usual abuse of the action economy that all psonics do.

My goal is to prove how good the psc warior can be spesially compare to the TOB classes.

[the_archduke]

Does persistent power exist? It was in 3.0, but that was a totally different system for psionics.

[Psyren]

Does persistent power exist? It was in 3.0, but that was a totally different system for psionics.

Bruce Cordell made an updated (3.5) version in Hyperconscious, a third-party (but very well-written) book.

[Aharon]

@the_archduke
By RAW, it does. All non-updated material can be used in 3.5.

[Psyren]

@the_archduke
By RAW, it does. All non-updated material can be used in 3.5.

Psionics is the exception to this rule, however - the PH was completely replaced.

[El-J]

well, my GM is so convinced that the psychic warrior is underpowered that he is letting me use the 3.0 version of the feat. however i am sure that after he sees what i can do with the class in a tier 3 or less campaign, he is going to have a different perception of it.

what do you think guys, will i be able to keep the phase of the marital adepts in my group ? will i be totally breaking the game? or the opposite?

by the way, which version of the feat you feel more ''official'', the 3.0 one, the one in hyperconcious or the one in srd.moderns?

[Amphetryon]

Consider Psionic Lion's Charge. Check the duration, verify the DM is okay with it, then giggle a lot to yourself.

[Rubik]

If you want some very nicely powered examples of some competitively optimized psywar builds:

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=11801.msg417846#msg417846

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=2926.msg92285#msg92285

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=2926.msg97988#msg97988

There are others in those threads as well.

[El-J]

Psionic Lion's Charge is instantaneous, so i think i can not make it persistent :smallfrown:

[Rubik]

Psionic Lion's Charge is instantaneous, so i think i can not make it persistent :smallfrown:Some people are convinced that it's Instantaneous the way that Wall of Iron is instantaneous, rather than, say, Fireball.

[edit] Do note that it grants you a full attack in addition to the attack at the end of your charge, and it doesn't specify when in the round you have to make it, so you can make a full attack prior to a charge, in the middle of a charge, or at the end of a charge.

[Amphetryon]

Some people are convinced that it's Instantaneous the way that Wall of Iron is instantaneous, rather than, say, Fireball.

If Wall of Iron is intended to last as long as a Fireball (or Psionic Lion's Charge), someone missed a memo somewhere. :smallwink: