1 new bloodline: choker (possibly more coming)

[inuyasha]

{table=head] Level | Minor
4 | +2 on climb checks | |
8 | Improved initiative | |
12 | +1 dexterity | |
16 | quickness* | |
20 | choker affinity** | |
[/table]
*as the choker ability
** +2 on all bluff, diplomacy, gather information, intimidate, and perform checks to interact with chokers.

Thoughts, comments, tweaks, and would you like to see more?

[Frathe]

No way is Quickness "minor", in any sense. An extra action per turn? That's huge. I wouldn't give that in a minor bloodline.

[inuyasha]

true but it is at 16th level :p by then thats still big but not as big as some things

[the_david]

Have you considered what would happen with a spellcaster + quickness? You might want to reconsider. In Pathfinder quickness was nerfed to a move action.

On another note, choker cleric!

[inuyasha]

once again though, 16th level, thats a pretty high level :p

[Frathe]

Yes, that may be high level, but minor bloodlines don't provide that much. Here are some examples of the powers received at Level 16 from minor bloodlines. Notice that they are all much less useful than Quickness.

Celestial-Protection from evil 1/day (Sp)-Equivalent to a once per day Level 1 Cleric Spell
Demon-Resistance to electricity 5 (Ex)-How often to you get electricity attacks against you?
Devil-Darkness 1/day (Sp)-Equivalent to a once per day Level 2 Wiz/Clr/Brd spell

[inuyasha]

hmmm. I get it now, what do you propose I replace it with?

[SamBurke]

No way is Quickness "minor", in any sense. An extra action per turn? That's huge. I wouldn't give that in a minor bloodline.

At Level 16 it's not too bad. I will point out that the bloodlines in UA are pretty craptastic, and shouldn't be compared to. I'd grab Welk's lists for a better comp.

I do want to say, though: THIS IS A BLOODLINE. NOT DONE BY WELKNAIR?

OH

MY

FLIPPING

SOUL.

My mind is blown. Good (if short) work by you, inuysha. Will the full bloodline be put up later?

[inuyasha]

good, glad someone wants more :D and I dont think I could stretch choker to be a medium or major. BUT anyways is there anything you would like to see or should I just pull something out of my hat?

also welknair if your reading this, I know this is your thing but I noticed no one else makes these...so i did :D

[Amechra]

Hey, a couple other people have made some (myself included (I made an anti-bloodline, really)); Welknair is just the one who gets attention for it (because his are good, if a bit... imbalanced between them.)

And besides, no one has a monopoly on homebrewing things. No one.

[inuyasha]

sorry I meant not very many people make these

[Frathe]

At Level 16 it's not too bad. I will point out that the bloodlines in UA are pretty craptastic, and shouldn't be compared to. I'd grab Welk's lists for a better comp.

Hey, I don't have anything else to base my standards off of. No offense, but what I judge the "normal" baseline is generally based more on official published material than on what someone on the internet has made.. though I realize UA stuff is often unbalanced. But if we don't work from WotC's material as a common base, what are we even doing here?


I do want to say, though: THIS IS A BLOODLINE. NOT DONE BY WELKNAIR?

OH

MY

FLIPPING

SOUL.

My mind is blown. Good (if short) work by you, inuysha. Will the full bloodline be put up later?


Hey, a couple other people have made some (myself included (I made an anti-bloodline, really)); Welknair is just the one who gets attention for it (because his are good, if a bit... imbalanced between them.)

And besides, no one has a monopoly on homebrewing things. No one.

I've made a moon dragon bloodline (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14577377&postcount=23) myself.

[inuyasha]

heres another one: the will o wisp :smallbiggrin:
dont ask me how it works...i dont have an answer
{table=head] Level |
Minor |
Intermediate

1 | | |
2 | | +2 on search checks |
3 | | |
4 | +2 on search checks | shock 1/day* |
5 | | |
6 | | +1 dexterity |
7 | | |
8 | shock 1/day* | invisibility 1/day |
9 | | |
10 | | will o wisp affinity +2** |
11 | | |
12 | +1 dexterity | SR 10 |
13 | | |
14 | | +2 on hide move silently checks |
15 | | |
16 | greater invisibility 1/day | shock 3/day |
17 | | |
18 | | +1 wisdom |
19 | | |
20 | will o wisp affinity +2** | invisibility 3/day |
[/table]
*melee touch attack dealing 2d6 damage
**+2 on all bluff, diplomacy, gather information, intimidate, and perform checks to interact with will o wisps.