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barna10
2013-02-19, 09:02 PM
This may be obvious but my mind refuses to work right now: Are grapple checks subject to concealment (ie 20% or 50% miss chances)?

Flickerdart
2013-02-19, 09:06 PM
No, because they're not attacks. Concealment does nothing when you're literally holding the other guy by the throat and punching him in the gut.

barna10
2013-02-19, 09:09 PM
No, because they're not attacks. Concealment does nothing when you're literally holding the other guy by the throat and punching him in the gut.

[NVM, found answer]

Thanks for the help

jindra34
2013-02-19, 09:10 PM
Even the initial attempt?

The roll to grab them? Yeah. The rolls to hold on? Nope. Suprisingly sensible for WotC.